SH Archive 1516: Noah in Tartary OP Username
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I understand that Noy and Noah could be two different individuals, but judging but what we can see here, Noah=Noy. According to Genesis 8:4, Noah's Ark landed on the "mountains of Ararat". Roughly, that would be between the Black and Caspian Seas. Noah died 350 years after the flood, at the age of 950, the last of the extremely long-lived Antediluvian patriarchs. The Masoretic Text of the Torah places the Great Deluge 1,656 years after Creation, or 1656 AM (Anno Mundi, "Year of the World"). Many attempts have been made to place this time-span at a specific date in history. At the turn of the 17th century CE, Joseph Scaliger placed Creation at 3950 BCE, Petavius calculated 3982 BCE, and according to James Ussher's chronology, Creation took place in 4004 BCE, dating the Great Deluge to 2348 BCE.
I do not believe in none of the above mathematics, but if I was to play along, than I would approximate Noah's death at about 2,000 BCE.

1615 Map
Google translated description: Carta marina navigation Portugallen long voyages, to the world of the earth and of the sea, and of the whole of the thing known, and confirmed by the form of the ancient tradition of the nature of the position of the different times, and the bounds of our own souls, and those I speak of an old they do not remember the author, in general, indicates that these...
A certain King Noah is present in the book of Mormon, but as we know, Mormonism was initiated by John Smith sometime in 1820s.
  • According to the Book of Mormon, King Noah was a wicked monarch best known for burning the prophet Abinadi at the stake. King Noah, described in the Book of Mosiah, is said to have presided over a wicked kingdom guided by false priests. Noah succeeds his father Zeniff, and is succeeded by his son Limhi.
I am not versed in anything Mormon related, but one way or the other, why do we have one of the historical Noahs on this 1615 Map? May be the accompanying description could shed some light, but I have no idea what it says.

KD: If this Noy is indeed our biblical Noah, than whoever chose to depict him (in Tartary) on the above 1615 map, did so approximately 3,600 years after the death of Noah. Why would a 1615 map titled "Carta marina navigation Portugallen long voyages..." have biblical Noah placed not too far from the alleged landing place of the Noah's Ark?

Unless you are aware of any Noahs of 1600s, this could be an additional indication of our calendar being seriously screwed up. When did the Flood event really take place, 4,000 years ago, or 500?
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