SH Archive 1900-1915 HD quality photos of the United States cities. Is that normal?

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I don't know about you, but this quality of the 1900-1915 photography does not quite match my perception, based on the dogmatic education I received. Below are some photos available on the Library of Congress website. The quality is beyond explainable IMHO.

These photographs predominantly pertain to New York City, with a few from Detroit, Chicago, Memphis, Atlantic City, etc.

What do you think? Does the quality of the photos match the known technology, and the time when they were supposedly taken?

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The thing i find most striking is how out of place the wires and advertising looks. The people who built and designed these buildings didn't factor in those things at all.
 

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LOL, I knew we were gonna get into buildings and equipment on these photos. Nothing matches to the time of these photos. It was probably the very first "Occupy America" movement :)
 

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Not speaking about the content of the image but the actual quality of the images, I'd like to mention that quality went down when we went digital. An old photograph is light and special film roll that is sensitive to light, it has as many pixels as the paper has atoms really. Wheras now a photo in HD is 1080x1920 pixels for example it's actually much less quality than an anolgue photo would have been. I think it's part of the wrong perception we are fed that things only improve.

Although seeing the reported dates 1900 - 1915 it does seem very high quality and there is no motion blur on people or vehicles, so it was a very good camera with fast exposure. I'm not sure about the early 1900's cutting-edge, but the image I have of cameras back then are the old-timey explosive ones that you need to stay still for, because of the long exposure time. I by no means have a good understanding of photography, but I'm sure it was not one of those style cameras that took these pics. The attached pic is the type I'm talking about and that is a model from 1909 apparently. You wouldn't need the flash in these daylight pics but it's a reference point to the tech we are told was used at the time I think.

Intriguing.

 

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Date: 2018-05-14 04:42:22
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From my understanding of photography in this era - the subjects still had to stay still for a long time. How is it possible to now have horses and people mid-step. This did not used to exist. I know that sounds insane - but these shots of things in motion, were not possible... so not sure what is going on?
 

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What's more remarkable -- our occluded past? Or our own ill-informed assumptions about it?

"In July 1877 at Union Park Race Track in Sacramento, [Muybridge photographed a horse] galloping at a rate of 36 ft/s at a distance of 40 ft with an exposure time of 1/1000th s..... The shutter mechanism was designed by John Isaacs and consisted of an electromagnet connected to a lever, similar to a telegraph key, attached to a twin-bladed shutter."


For reference, 1/1000th of a second will get you a sharp, clear image of, say, kids playing soccer. This is surprising, but also consistent with the city photographs above, whose photographers would've been able to reach awesome vantage points in broad daylight for impressive shots. It seems like we just have a poor "image" of what photography was capable of at the turn of the century, conspiracy or no conspiracy -- though the reference to electromagnets is compelling. I wonder how modern digital camera shutters work...
 

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Well, the images were clearly made. Why we have this concept of poor photography quality of the late 19th / early 20th century is fairly obvious. For example, every time I want to find an object from that time frame, I end up with a border line “better than nothing” image.

I honestly have this impression that we are led to believe that there was a strongly defined quality progression from simple to complicated in many areas. The reality demonstrates that our past was way more sophisticated then we could possibly imagine.
 

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Date: 2018-05-14 23:28:31
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the quality is obviously quite anomalous, though i got quite distracted with all those atmospheric eletricity poles

thats something i noticed too, wheres the ridiculous exposure such pictures are supposed to have?

that quality is very anomalous, something like that in the 50's would'nt surprise me but 1900's?
 

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I keep on thinking that people in the images do not belong to the scenery. Visitors.
 

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The level of knowledge and technology required to build those buildings somehow is not on par with technology observed.
 

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yes i have to agree, the difference between the eletricity to the buildings is jarring
 

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It's funny how older pictures have no electricity wires strung all over, and the scenery looks so harmonic, whereas with all those cables things are much uglier.

How about these 1903 and 1911 clips?

 

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strange huh?
 

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The quality of life is altogether surprising. My perception was definitely way off.
 

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all the moving people and objects should be blurred shutter speed supposedly so slow why slow shutter speeds when these were taken

yes and when i have flying dreams sometimes i cannot get above the wires from everything and i have to stay beloew them which is miserable cage., not all are like that ,imprison us in electrical wires an stuff lol.
yes it must have still been the atmospheric enery tech

or gas then.
 

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that dream thing is quite a non-sequitur
 

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Gas could be possible I imagine.

Another thing I keep on running into, is the lack of any known type of heating systems native to those structures.
 

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It would seem based on all of the pre 1700's maps. There was no ice caps. There was no winters. Well no frozen winters. So what ever the cataclysm was it disrupted the weather so badly the flip from summer to winter became much more drastic .
 

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in fact if tech_dancer is to be believed they actually had useless vents everywhere in their houses
 
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