SH Archive Abandoned 1856 Toronto almost ready for re-population...

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The City of Toronto in either late 1856 or early 1857. The last five photographs are 1865-ish. The photographs reproduced from copy negatives are some of the earliest photographic views of Toronto. The 1856 Toronto portfolio also contains 13 views taken from the top of the Rossin House Hotel at King and York streets, which, when put together, create three multi-part panoramas, or a single, 300-degree vista.

We basically have the same issue - where is the population, and who are those few individuals in tall cylindrical hats present on some of the photos?

1856-1857

Bank-of-British-North-America-north-east-corner-of-Wellington-and-Yonge-streets.jpgBooth-Son-north-east-corner-of-Adelaide-and-Victoria-streets.jpgKing-Street-East-south-side-between-Yonge-and-Church-streets-looking-east.jpgKing-Street-East-south-side-looking-west.jpgNormal-School-building-Gould-Street-north-side-east-of-Yonge.jpgOsgoode-Hall-Queen-Street-West-north-side.jpgRossin-House-Hotel-south-east-corner-of-King-and-York-streets.jpgSecond-United-Presbyterian-Church-under-construction.jpgThe-Exchange-Wellington-Street-north-side-east-of-Yonge-Street.jpgToronto-from-the-top-of-the-Rossin-House-Hotel-looking-north-along-York-Street.jpgToronto-from-the-top-of-the-Rossin-House-Hotel-looking-north-east.jpgToronto-from-the-top-of-the-Rossin-House-Hotel-looking-northeast-2.jpgToronto-from-the-top-of-the-Rossin-House-Hotel-looking-south.jpgToronto-from-the-top-of-the-Rossin-House-Hotel-looking-south-2.jpgToronto-from-the-top-of-the-Rossin-House-Hotel-looking-southeast.jpgToronto-from-the-top-of-the-Rossin-House-Hotel-looking-southeast-2.jpgToronto-from-the-top-of-the-Rossin-House-Hotel-looking-southwest.jpgToronto-from-the-top-of-the-Rossin-House-Hotel-looking-west-along-King-Street-West.jpgTrinity-College-Queen-Street-West-north-side.jpgWellington-Street-East-north-side-between-Church-and-Yonge-streets-showing-the-Wellington-Hotel.jpg

1865-1868

Toronto-waterfront.jpgBank_of_Toronto.jpgKing's_College_Toronto_1855.jpgOntario_Bank.jpgPost_office_on_Toronto_Street.jpgRussianHouse.jpgToronto_City_Hall.jpg
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Date: 2018-07-30 18:22:42
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Abandoned cities all over the world... Nothing to see here folks, move along.

How had this never been discussed before?
 

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I know, right? But who would bring it up, the official historians? How would they explain the lack of people, and drinking fountains like the one in the below 1899 (allegedly) image?

College Street and Spadina Avenue, Toronto

1899-Drinking_fountain_at_College_Street_and_Spadina_Avenue.jpg

And then comes the Fire of 1904
(as a part of the global Urban Fire project)
1904-TorontoFire1904.jpg 1904-TorontoFire1904_1.jpg
 

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Date: 2018-07-30 19:37:02
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The photographs of single buildings can be explained as snapshops commissioned shortly after construction, in order to document the building's completion. However, this doesn't explain the photographs of multiple buildings and totally empty streets. That said, these photographs indeed were taken to document a major event, namely, the city being constructed (or discovered) from the ground up, prior to habitation.

Yea, and historians expect us to believe that a massive, accidental inferno which consumed entire buildings could not disintegrate some rubber wires strung next to the buildings...
 

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Date: 2018-07-30 23:19:31
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more and more cities used as refugee camps from the disaster, we can find such pictures of almost any big city
 

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Date: 2018-07-31 00:21:37
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Thanks for this post. I lived in Toronto for over two decades and was always drawn to the the Prince's Gates.

The construction photo looks more like reassembly to me.

 

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Could you elaberate on the comment about refgee camps? The phrase doe not ring a bell in context.
 

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What I think humanoidlord means is that if there were a mud flood catastrophe that killed innumerable people and buried entire cities, then the survivors would need refuge in places that had not been completely buried. I may be mistaken but maybe that answer will suffice until humanoidlord returns to answer your question.
 

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Date: 2018-08-04 07:16:57
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The exposure time of photographic film was about 3 minutes. People had to stand still for 3 minutes, in order to be exposed onto the film. Anybody walking about would disappear.
Look at the horse. He moved his head, so it is quite blur
 

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The common answer for this is a partially fact-based myth: because it took a long time to expose the image, the subject had to sit still. The truth is that very early daguerreotypes (those from 1839-1845) did take 60-90 seconds of sitting still to capture an image, but the majority of daguerreotypes we see today are from post-1845, when new technology (the addition of bromine fumes to the process) reduced exposure times to a few seconds.

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Date: 2018-08-06 19:54:19
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Semi OT but this series reminds me about how modern day China constantly builds new cities and abandons them just as quickly. You can google chinese ghost cities and such terms to see what I mean. Maybe the next generation will get moved into cities like this after the next cataclysm.

 

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Date: 2018-08-06 20:00:12
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Bah sorry if I reply with stuff that has been kind of covered on the forum I'm kind of binge consuming everything this forum has but thanks for the links! It's a warm welcome at least aha.
 

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While looking at the Civil War ,I noticed the same curiosity, no people. After a major battle there would be strays, wounded, displaced people everywhere. But no?
If there no chem trails being sprayed that alone is a plus for resettlement.

 

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If the photographers did not want 3 second streaks of people in their images they would move to taking pictures Saturday or Sunday morning where the exposure time at maybe 6am in the morning on a typical Toronto summer morning might have been around 30 seconds. The 3 second time average might be an 11am summertime average. Morning lighting is better anyways for a higher contrast picture.
 

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These have multiple people in them. The last one has about 9 people, from what I can tell. It could be that most people are working rather than walking on streets like we do today. (That would also mean that the location of the photograph is important, too.)
 

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It could be a lot of things. We have a whole bunch of cities sharing common traits. Plausible explanations are multiple. It could be this or it could be that. Yet where are the same time photographs where these prominent cities have people? Where are horses, carriages, street vendors?

A plausible explanation would be that no photographer chose to photograph these cities with people. But how realistic would that be?
 

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If the city survived the disaster, what happened with the original citizens? They just moved out to make space for the refugees?
Or if it was a big reset, who got the technology to take these pictures?
 

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The Rossin house hotel locale is interesting. In this one how far below grade do those wooden supports holding the gable end of that terrace up go?
Rather that dilute the intent of the original poster I'll open a thread for the building. Rossin House Toronto
 
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