SH Archive Abandoned 1870s Venice. Where are the people?

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Actually I was able to find like 3 people on this huge panoramic photograph. One of them is just below.

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But where is everyone else? This is Venice after all.

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When was this picture taken? I read that the plague was in Venice in 1814-1815 during the Vienna Congress.
 

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2 modern screw ships and 2 side radar ships and is that a airfield in the background
 

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Maybe they're all in church?
 

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It's 1870s according to where I got it from: Venice - Wikipedia
LOL, Right :)
Screw ships are ok for 1870s. Where do you see radars and an airfield?
 

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Yup. Appears 1860ish-1870ish for Europe, and 1905ish for North America.
 

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i thought the warehouses looked like a hangers, and by radar i mean propulsion of the ships
 

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identical to that st peterburg one, where is everyone?
 

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If the exposure was extremely long, then most, if not all individuals would not appear.
 

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Exposure Info: The truth is that very early daguerreotypes (those from 1839-1845) did take 60-90 seconds of sitting still to capture an image, but the majority of daguerreotypes we see today are from post-1845, when new technology (the addition of bromine fumes to the process) reduced exposure times to a few seconds. - source
 

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For the movie, "28 Days Later," they managed to film many parts of the normally bustling London entirely sans people, so it is possible to get views of places that usually are busy to be completely empty.

Maybe the photographer took the picture at like 3 in the morning when nobody is out, and set the exposure to an insane length.
 

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They did the exact same thing in the movie I Am Legend.

We can speculate what the photographer did, or did not do. It's up to a person what to think, once the totality of circumstances is understood.
 

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Yup. They're self quarantining. They're making facemasks for when the quarantine is lifted.
 

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very creepy the entire city seems empty ... good photo with examples of Antique architecture ... maybe visit on Google Earth and study the buildings if they are still there ...
 

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Well wouldn't people naturally be sitting on benches and waiting outside for other people or stalls or booths or shops of people trying to sell things exist? I would naturally be inclined to think that those sorts and types of activities would occur in a normal city.

Anyways, food for thought:

1525 - The ancient city of Venice. (Supposedly)

Calling anybody who can translate the text in the image. Thanks.

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Usually I don't do this, but I think this image will spur excellent discussion.


Author Pirî Reis, d. 1554?
Date 1525
Short Title fol. 185b and 186a Eastern and Western parts of the city of Venice
Publisher Manuscript
Type Manuscript Map
Type Chart Map
Obj Height cm 34
Obj Width cm 24
Note Author's name given on fol. 376b as Raʾīs al-Baḥr Pīrī ibn Muḥammad; author dates preferred by (Walters) cataloger: d. 962 AH / 1555 CE
Reference Walters Art Museum, W.658, fol 186a, © 2011 Walters Art Museum, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license: Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0
City Venice (Italy)
Region Adriatic Sea
Subject Navigation
Subject Exploration
Full Title fol. 185b and 186a Eastern and Western parts of the city of Venice
List No 10108.381
Series No 381
Publication Author Pirî Reis, d. 1554?
Pub Date 1700
Pub Title Walters Ms. W.658, Book on navigation, Kitāb-i baḥriye
Pub Reference The original manuscript Walters Ms. W.658 resides at the Walters Art Museum, Baltimore, Maryland. All images and metadata are generously provided by the Walters Art Museum, W.658, on line description Walters Ms. W.658, Book on navigation © 2011 Walters Art Museum, used under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license: Creative Commons — Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported — CC BY-SA 3.0
Pub Note Originally composed in 932 AH / 1525 CE and dedicated to Sultan Süleyman I (the Magnificent), this great work by Piri Reis (d. 962 AH / 1555 CE) on navigation was later revised and expanded. The present manuscript, made mostly in the late eleventh century AH / seventeenth CE, is based on the later expanded version and has some 240 exquisitely executed maps and portolan charts. They include a world map with the outline of the Americas (fol. 41a) and maps of coastlines (bays, capes, peninsulas); islands; mountains; and cities of the Mediterranean basin and the Black Sea. The work starts with a description of the coastline of Anatolia and the islands of the Aegean Sea, the Peloponnese peninsula, and the eastern and western coasts of the Adriatic Sea. It then proceeds to describe the western shores of Italy, southern France, Spain, North Africa, Palestine, Israel, Lebanon, Syria, western Anatolia, various islands north of Crete, the Sea of Marmara, the Bosporus, and the Black Sea. It ends with a map of the shores of the Caspian Sea (fol. 374a).
Pub List No 10108.000
Pub Type Manuscript Book
Pub Type Chart Atlas
Pub Maps 240
Pub Height cm 34
Pub Width cm 24
Image No W658_000380_381_804.jp2
Download 1 http://www.davidrumsey.com/rumsey/download.pl?image=/171/W658_000380_381_804.jp2 target=_blank>Full Image Download in JP2 Format
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Authors Pirî Reis, d. 1554?


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