Ancient Rome according to Piranesi and others

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You are stuck in the modern mindset. That's why. There is something to be said for casting stone. So lets look at what the cast stone is. Crushed or otherwise small bits of stone held together in a liquid of some sort which solidifies so the mould once removed leaves behind a solid mass.
Exactly like concrete is made I would postulate just using different materials. Concrete is strong enough to be load bearing up to a limit. Beyond that limit it fails. To make concrete have a greater load bearing capacity it is fitted with a metal armature. To make it have even more load bearing ability it is fitted with a stressed armature.

All well and good. Here in the yard of this house there sits a pair of dragon castings. They are made of crushed cheshire grit Cotswold stone and resin. They have no armature in them. They suffer no weather damage though they do chip if hit with something heavy enough. They and the process used to make them, basically mixing the crushed stone and resin and pouring it into a fibreglass mould is not a load bearing process.
The same process is used to create fake 'bits of castle' for garden structures but the load bearing limit of this stuff means that ten feet tall is as high as an independent wall can go. Any higher and they have to have a core structure of brick or cement block tied in to take the load.

Point being current cast stone products are not designed to be load bearing. You simply cannot make a tower the scale shown in the Piranesii drawing out of a cast stone product.
Piranesii was drawing real life as he knew it. To my mind there is no question of it. His attention to detail scale and proportion is a clear sign he was drawing things he had first hand knowledge of not just the items themselves but the purposes to which they were put and the processes they were used in. Just because they jar with out dumbed down modern view of what can be done by humans and their non electric machines is not grounds to dismiss them.

The only thing with Piranessi and his drawings is I cannot accept he was the only artist knocking about who did such detailed drawings yet his are the only ones that seem to be available to view, at least digitally. That strikes me as very odd indeed but then again there would be no need for discussion if there were lots of artists work digitally available all showing the ways things used to be done in detail.

Edit to correct chesire grit to Cotswold stone
 
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The only thing with Piranessi and his drawings is I cannot accept he was the only artist knocking about who did such detailed drawings yet his are the only ones that seem to be available to view, at least digitally. That strikes me as very odd indeed but then again there would be no need for discussion if there were lots of artists work digitally available all showing the ways things used to be done in detail.
Excellent point. Why did he get to be the pall-bearer of that age? If his drawings are true then was he the only admirer? If not then what mis-direction is he being pushed with. The masonic imagery is a telling gesture.

Now that you mention this, I doubt everything in that picture as misdirection.
 

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With apologies to silveryou but this is the best place to slot this video in I feel.
Here is a video about one man and his bridge all built by hand with hand tools. Can you or I do this?
I have to say I cannot but obviously I cannot answer for you.
Point of posting is we truly have no comprehension whatsoever about what we as individuals are capable of and even less what a group of individuals working together are capable of. Piranesii or whoever drew those images knew precisely.

I give you grandpa amu. Do go to his channel and pick any of his videos, literally any as they are all remarkable. For myself I tested out one of his projects a lid for a wok by making one myself from some pallet wood and scraps. The astonishing, truly astonishing thing for me was finding out that I could do something he did simply from watching him do it and trusting myself.
Again apologies go to silveryou.

 

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There are/were others besides Piranesi.

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