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Where do we come from? What is the meaning of life? Big questions require big brains to solve them. Are we the latest iteration in a long evolutionary chain or perhaps we are the result of genetic engineering within deep antiquity?
Okay, so the premise to this is pretty straight forward. I think its safe to say that anyone who has spent any amount of time on the internet knows about this idea of the Annunaki. Extraterrestrial aliens who came to earth to mine gold and other resources to save their own dying planet. Its been done to death, there must be over a million hours of YouTube videos on Annunaki giants at this point.
I won't spend anymore time here setting up the idea of Aliens creating people than is absolutely necessary. Suffice it to say this theory explores the idea that the Annunaki needed a slave race to do manual labour and set about creating mankind. That's the basic gist of it. If you need more than that feel free to watch half a dozen Annunaki giant alien Youtube videos for further context and then come back, i'll wait . Without further ado were gonna jump straight in...
Some anecdotal evidence first:
Human's skin becomes sunburnt after very short exposure to the suns radiation. Where as Apes have a much more leathery epidermis, I don't even think Gorilla sunburn is a thing. How does an animal evolve on this planet (i.e. Homo-sapiens) that is so susceptible to sunlight. Humans have soft flesh while primates possess thick leathery hides.
What little body hair humans do have is on their fronts. Head, face and chest. This is the different to primates who seem to posses the exact opposite, heavy coats on their backs and sparse hair on their chests. Also why do humans have hair and fingernails that grow out indefinitely? All other mammals have cycles of malting where their hair falls out with the changing of the seasons, something humans do not experience despite apparently evolving here.
Why do humans have such poor night vision? primates have far greater night vision than homo-sapiens. Why was this trait not passed on during the alleged evolutionary process? There is no clear reason why we lost the ability for night vision, we are predators after all so how was it beneficial to lose this trait? maybe random people on Yahoo answers have some idea why.
Why are human's bone density so much less than primates? Chimpanzees our closest living relative have a bone density at least 1.5x greater than that of homo-sapiens, our bones are like twigs by comparison. This goes for muscle strength also. The sheer torque generated by a chimpanzee could tear a man limp from limp, can you say the same for humans? Were these not beneficial traits to keep? Sciencemag.
Humans are omnivorous. Primates are predominately herbivorous although certain species such as chimpanzees have been known to eat meat it is not a staple of their diet. Humans can eat almost anything, much of today's food stuffs are entirely processed and humans are known to subsist on such foods for decades. Pigs however also share this innate ability to digest practically anything. Couple this with the knowledge that human organs are 100% compatible with pigs and you have a bizarre conflict of origin here. Are humans evolved from pigs and just happened to develop into primates or are humans evolved from primates and just happen to have 100% compatibility with pig organs by coincidence?
Subcutaneous fat is a big clue as to our genetic link to pigs. This isn't a genetic link between primates and pigs, primates do not possess subcutaneous fat. They are skin and bone so to speak. This is not a link between pigs and primates but exclusively a link between pigs and humans!
There are many more less obvious but just as perplexing questions such as the study of Circadian rhythms (the human sleep/wake cycle.) The first mention of humans out of sync with their environment comes form a report from 1970...
Locomotion, although out right walking isn't going to kill you. Compared to primates, the way in which homo-sapiens walk is woefully inefficient. Primates are flat footed and plant themselves much more deliberately before taking follow up steps. Humans on the other hand have a high arch and the dispersion of body weight is very irregular leading to serious joint issues.
Lets look more closely at the skeleton. We'll do a comparison between primates and humans...
Firstly the skull. All primates prior to the appearance of Homo-sapiens have jutting lower jaws, a muzzle with a protruding lower jaw and sloped back forehead. Then in Homo-sapiens we find the opposite, a lower jaw which falls away and a straight forehead. The Neanderthal skull although claimed by scientists to exist on a separate branch of the evolutionary tree, is a close link between earlier primates and Homo-sapiens but note that the brow ridge is still very ape like and the bone density is still orders of magnitude more robust than that of humans. Again, humans seem to have reduced in physical ability compared with all other primates. Note also the more delicate eye cavity. Again, fragile by comparison to primates.
Charles Darwin was quoted as having said that the theory of evolution is the survival of the fittest. The evolution of animals presented to us by the mainstream clearly plots a course of incremental advancement, improvement over time. However the disparity between anatomically modern Homo-sapiens and their nearest known predecessors is enormous, it can be claimed that the loss of certain traits was due to redistribution to other traits such as a bigger brain or the ability to modulate our vocal cords thus gaining the ability of speak but this isn't so much an evolution as much as it is a complete redesign! All within the short space of 100,000 years.
The truth of the matter is that none of the bones found in pre-human fossils are present in modern humans, not one. This is not disputed by experts. This is where the concept of the missing link comes into play. There is this idea that one day, paleontologists will discover this halfway between skeleton that links Humans with primates but this would not require one missing link but hundreds of missing links to illustrate that change. At least sufficiently for scientific standards.
100,000 years is a blip in the larger scheme of things, not nearly enough time to completely overhaul large portions of the anatomy and increase the brains ability to where it is now. Any serious person looking into this would immediately see how unlikely such an acceleration in evolution would be.
Charles Darwin was also quoted as saying that "...man appears to be like a domesticated animal". At least I think that was a Darwin quote. Someone said it.
Imagine if you will that you are from another world, perhaps you have evolved on your own world to tolerate different surface temperatures than what you find here. Perhaps your body size scale in relation to the plants and other fruit is also out of proposition. You're a giant person in a miniature place. You come to this place and you decide to engineer a smaller version of yourself for earthly duties. You have the technology and the will to do so, you must consider certain things, traits to borrow from the local fauna, traits that would make this "smaller you" more adaptable to the harsh environment. This is not your world remember and therefore you have no innate characteristics that would benefit the smaller you in this new world so local attributes are a necessity.
You survey the surrounding environment, looking for a creature that is both suitable and compatible. Working backwards from what we know about our selves currently, that creature selected by these off-worlders was some form of primate. The choice based on physical similarities was most likely Neanderthal man. A humanoid figure, it is quoted by Author Zecharia Sitchin in his translation of the Sumerian texts available that some form of upright walking primate was chosen as it was understood that it was a good representation of these off-worlders own evolutionary ancestor and given enough time it too would evolve into something similar to them selves, they were merely accelerating a natural process. No harm in that right?
It is fair to say that the Neanderthal is a natural step in the evolutionary tree of primates, it shares with all other primates the flat footed walking method. The robust skeleton and skull shape. Note if you will the Neanderthal rib cage is conical in shape tapering closed at the top like an inverted triangle. Homo-sapiens do not share any of these traits. Superficially everything is in the same place, but these are not closely related creatures.
So the neanderthal has its DNA sampled and the process can soon begin. Another important consideration is the diet of this little person you are making. They will be working long hours and you want them to be hardy and resilient. No time for messing about with special snow flake diets, you wanna be able to feed them whatever is on hand and not have to worry about it. So you search for an animal that can pretty much eat anything. Here is where we circle back around to the pig. This is an omnivore that in some cases has been known to live on poop alone! This thing is like the energizer bunny, it'll just keep going and going. So you splice a bit of pig DNA into the mix.
Now comes the hard part. There is one major flaw in your plan. Chromosomes are long chains that consist of smaller bands of DNA. Different animal species have different chromosome counts. Depending on what animals your attempting to splice this can make things rather complicated, impossible in fact. No matter how hard you try, PlayStation games are never gonna run on an Xbox, I mean they can but its gonna require some pretty clever hacking skills...
Here is an image of the Chromosomes of Humans alongside three major primates. Primates have 48 chromosomes but humans have only 46. That's 2 less chromosomes and yet we are so much more improved over them. When has taking away stuff ever made something better? Except perhaps the pineapple on Hawaiian pizza. Extrapolating backwards we can guess that it was our designers that possessed only 46 chromosomes. They needed some way of making their own DNA compatible with this primates so they fused the second chromosome together. It has gone from occupying two slots to now only occupying one. This is done with the egg or sperm and now you have a compatible hybrid.
Its important to note that these cuts and splices aren't being made with physical instruments. We are talking about cutting using chemicals. This is an inexact science and mistakes were made. The human genome has over 40,000 inherited genetic defects that kill a person before they reach puberty. From a natural evolutionary perspective how are these defects still in the gene pool if they are not possibly able to be passed down to the next generation? There are many, many red flags like this present with in humanity that suggest genetic tampering. That's it for now.
Much of the information outlined in this article is the work of Author Lloyd Pye. If any of this information interests you, I highly recommend you watch Mr Pye's lecture "Everything you know is wrong." Sadly Mr Pye is not with us anymore but I would like to keep his theories alive and wish to develop on them in future. Wikipedia wrote nasty things about him so you know he must have been onto a good thing! A big thanks to Lloyd Pye who has inspired me with his ideas. I hope I did his work justice here today.
CN summary:
Are we genetically engineered hybrids made by giant "aliens" to mine gold on this planet? I am very inclined to think so based on the above information and many other bits of information I've collected over the years. I have a lot of questions, for example is the phenomenon of downs syndrome where an infant is born with one additional chromosome a quirk of development where the genetics are trying to correct themselves? This only happens in cases where the mother is past a certain age and so perhaps mechanisms placed by our designers within the body that suppress such undesired results begin to weaken. There is just so many avenues to explore. The pig element fascinates me. Very weird how compatible we are with pigs.
The idea of giant "aliens" from our past creating us could account for all the super sized structures we cover on this site and the long tradition of giant men. I am careful not to call them space aliens as I feel the Flat earth model can just as easily provide us with a location beyond our own. Beyond the ice wall perhaps. The conditions here within the ice wall on our flat plane most likely are artificially created, everything from the sun and the moon to our own bodies. It would make sense that larger people exist beyond the boundaries of our plane and once traveled between our world and theirs on the outside. These are the questions that keep me up at night. I know I'm weird but how about the rest of you? Does the idea of genetic engineering help in any way to satisfy your questions on who we are and where we come from?
Okay, so the premise to this is pretty straight forward. I think its safe to say that anyone who has spent any amount of time on the internet knows about this idea of the Annunaki. Extraterrestrial aliens who came to earth to mine gold and other resources to save their own dying planet. Its been done to death, there must be over a million hours of YouTube videos on Annunaki giants at this point.
I won't spend anymore time here setting up the idea of Aliens creating people than is absolutely necessary. Suffice it to say this theory explores the idea that the Annunaki needed a slave race to do manual labour and set about creating mankind. That's the basic gist of it. If you need more than that feel free to watch half a dozen Annunaki giant alien Youtube videos for further context and then come back, i'll wait . Without further ado were gonna jump straight in...
Are humans the result of genetic engineering?
let's compare humans to their nearest relative, Primates.
let's compare humans to their nearest relative, Primates.
Some anecdotal evidence first:
Human's skin becomes sunburnt after very short exposure to the suns radiation. Where as Apes have a much more leathery epidermis, I don't even think Gorilla sunburn is a thing. How does an animal evolve on this planet (i.e. Homo-sapiens) that is so susceptible to sunlight. Humans have soft flesh while primates possess thick leathery hides.
What little body hair humans do have is on their fronts. Head, face and chest. This is the different to primates who seem to posses the exact opposite, heavy coats on their backs and sparse hair on their chests. Also why do humans have hair and fingernails that grow out indefinitely? All other mammals have cycles of malting where their hair falls out with the changing of the seasons, something humans do not experience despite apparently evolving here.
Why do humans have such poor night vision? primates have far greater night vision than homo-sapiens. Why was this trait not passed on during the alleged evolutionary process? There is no clear reason why we lost the ability for night vision, we are predators after all so how was it beneficial to lose this trait? maybe random people on Yahoo answers have some idea why.
Why are human's bone density so much less than primates? Chimpanzees our closest living relative have a bone density at least 1.5x greater than that of homo-sapiens, our bones are like twigs by comparison. This goes for muscle strength also. The sheer torque generated by a chimpanzee could tear a man limp from limp, can you say the same for humans? Were these not beneficial traits to keep? Sciencemag.
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Humans are omnivorous. Primates are predominately herbivorous although certain species such as chimpanzees have been known to eat meat it is not a staple of their diet. Humans can eat almost anything, much of today's food stuffs are entirely processed and humans are known to subsist on such foods for decades. Pigs however also share this innate ability to digest practically anything. Couple this with the knowledge that human organs are 100% compatible with pigs and you have a bizarre conflict of origin here. Are humans evolved from pigs and just happened to develop into primates or are humans evolved from primates and just happen to have 100% compatibility with pig organs by coincidence?
mnn.com.Pigs share a number of surprising comparable traits with humans. For instance, we both have hairless skin, a thick layer of subcutaneous fat, light-colored eyes, protruding noses and heavy eyelashes. Pig skin tissues and heart valves can be used in medicine because of their compatibility with the human body. Medical students often practice suturing on pig's feet.
Subcutaneous fat is a big clue as to our genetic link to pigs. This isn't a genetic link between primates and pigs, primates do not possess subcutaneous fat. They are skin and bone so to speak. This is not a link between pigs and primates but exclusively a link between pigs and humans!
***
There are many more less obvious but just as perplexing questions such as the study of Circadian rhythms (the human sleep/wake cycle.) The first mention of humans out of sync with their environment comes form a report from 1970...
Non 24 hour sleep wake disorder as it is known is much more common among the blind as they have no daylight cues on which to go by. Perhaps causing them to exhibit a truer expression of a natural sleep/wake cycle. Something to think about.The first report and description of a case of non-24, a man living on 26-hour days, was "A man with too long a day" by Ann L. Eliott et al. in November 1970.[56] The related and more common delayed sleep phase disorder was not described until 1981.
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Locomotion, although out right walking isn't going to kill you. Compared to primates, the way in which homo-sapiens walk is woefully inefficient. Primates are flat footed and plant themselves much more deliberately before taking follow up steps. Humans on the other hand have a high arch and the dispersion of body weight is very irregular leading to serious joint issues.
Lets look more closely at the skeleton. We'll do a comparison between primates and humans...
Firstly the skull. All primates prior to the appearance of Homo-sapiens have jutting lower jaws, a muzzle with a protruding lower jaw and sloped back forehead. Then in Homo-sapiens we find the opposite, a lower jaw which falls away and a straight forehead. The Neanderthal skull although claimed by scientists to exist on a separate branch of the evolutionary tree, is a close link between earlier primates and Homo-sapiens but note that the brow ridge is still very ape like and the bone density is still orders of magnitude more robust than that of humans. Again, humans seem to have reduced in physical ability compared with all other primates. Note also the more delicate eye cavity. Again, fragile by comparison to primates.
Charles Darwin was quoted as having said that the theory of evolution is the survival of the fittest. The evolution of animals presented to us by the mainstream clearly plots a course of incremental advancement, improvement over time. However the disparity between anatomically modern Homo-sapiens and their nearest known predecessors is enormous, it can be claimed that the loss of certain traits was due to redistribution to other traits such as a bigger brain or the ability to modulate our vocal cords thus gaining the ability of speak but this isn't so much an evolution as much as it is a complete redesign! All within the short space of 100,000 years.
The truth of the matter is that none of the bones found in pre-human fossils are present in modern humans, not one. This is not disputed by experts. This is where the concept of the missing link comes into play. There is this idea that one day, paleontologists will discover this halfway between skeleton that links Humans with primates but this would not require one missing link but hundreds of missing links to illustrate that change. At least sufficiently for scientific standards.
100,000 years is a blip in the larger scheme of things, not nearly enough time to completely overhaul large portions of the anatomy and increase the brains ability to where it is now. Any serious person looking into this would immediately see how unlikely such an acceleration in evolution would be.
Charles Darwin was also quoted as saying that "...man appears to be like a domesticated animal". At least I think that was a Darwin quote. Someone said it.
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Lets look at some of the issues with Homo-sapiens DNA.
Imagine if you will that you are from another world, perhaps you have evolved on your own world to tolerate different surface temperatures than what you find here. Perhaps your body size scale in relation to the plants and other fruit is also out of proposition. You're a giant person in a miniature place. You come to this place and you decide to engineer a smaller version of yourself for earthly duties. You have the technology and the will to do so, you must consider certain things, traits to borrow from the local fauna, traits that would make this "smaller you" more adaptable to the harsh environment. This is not your world remember and therefore you have no innate characteristics that would benefit the smaller you in this new world so local attributes are a necessity.
You survey the surrounding environment, looking for a creature that is both suitable and compatible. Working backwards from what we know about our selves currently, that creature selected by these off-worlders was some form of primate. The choice based on physical similarities was most likely Neanderthal man. A humanoid figure, it is quoted by Author Zecharia Sitchin in his translation of the Sumerian texts available that some form of upright walking primate was chosen as it was understood that it was a good representation of these off-worlders own evolutionary ancestor and given enough time it too would evolve into something similar to them selves, they were merely accelerating a natural process. No harm in that right?
It is fair to say that the Neanderthal is a natural step in the evolutionary tree of primates, it shares with all other primates the flat footed walking method. The robust skeleton and skull shape. Note if you will the Neanderthal rib cage is conical in shape tapering closed at the top like an inverted triangle. Homo-sapiens do not share any of these traits. Superficially everything is in the same place, but these are not closely related creatures.
So the neanderthal has its DNA sampled and the process can soon begin. Another important consideration is the diet of this little person you are making. They will be working long hours and you want them to be hardy and resilient. No time for messing about with special snow flake diets, you wanna be able to feed them whatever is on hand and not have to worry about it. So you search for an animal that can pretty much eat anything. Here is where we circle back around to the pig. This is an omnivore that in some cases has been known to live on poop alone! This thing is like the energizer bunny, it'll just keep going and going. So you splice a bit of pig DNA into the mix.
Now comes the hard part. There is one major flaw in your plan. Chromosomes are long chains that consist of smaller bands of DNA. Different animal species have different chromosome counts. Depending on what animals your attempting to splice this can make things rather complicated, impossible in fact. No matter how hard you try, PlayStation games are never gonna run on an Xbox, I mean they can but its gonna require some pretty clever hacking skills...
Here is an image of the Chromosomes of Humans alongside three major primates. Primates have 48 chromosomes but humans have only 46. That's 2 less chromosomes and yet we are so much more improved over them. When has taking away stuff ever made something better? Except perhaps the pineapple on Hawaiian pizza. Extrapolating backwards we can guess that it was our designers that possessed only 46 chromosomes. They needed some way of making their own DNA compatible with this primates so they fused the second chromosome together. It has gone from occupying two slots to now only occupying one. This is done with the egg or sperm and now you have a compatible hybrid.
Its important to note that these cuts and splices aren't being made with physical instruments. We are talking about cutting using chemicals. This is an inexact science and mistakes were made. The human genome has over 40,000 inherited genetic defects that kill a person before they reach puberty. From a natural evolutionary perspective how are these defects still in the gene pool if they are not possibly able to be passed down to the next generation? There are many, many red flags like this present with in humanity that suggest genetic tampering. That's it for now.
Much of the information outlined in this article is the work of Author Lloyd Pye. If any of this information interests you, I highly recommend you watch Mr Pye's lecture "Everything you know is wrong." Sadly Mr Pye is not with us anymore but I would like to keep his theories alive and wish to develop on them in future. Wikipedia wrote nasty things about him so you know he must have been onto a good thing! A big thanks to Lloyd Pye who has inspired me with his ideas. I hope I did his work justice here today.
CN summary:
Are we genetically engineered hybrids made by giant "aliens" to mine gold on this planet? I am very inclined to think so based on the above information and many other bits of information I've collected over the years. I have a lot of questions, for example is the phenomenon of downs syndrome where an infant is born with one additional chromosome a quirk of development where the genetics are trying to correct themselves? This only happens in cases where the mother is past a certain age and so perhaps mechanisms placed by our designers within the body that suppress such undesired results begin to weaken. There is just so many avenues to explore. The pig element fascinates me. Very weird how compatible we are with pigs.
The idea of giant "aliens" from our past creating us could account for all the super sized structures we cover on this site and the long tradition of giant men. I am careful not to call them space aliens as I feel the Flat earth model can just as easily provide us with a location beyond our own. Beyond the ice wall perhaps. The conditions here within the ice wall on our flat plane most likely are artificially created, everything from the sun and the moon to our own bodies. It would make sense that larger people exist beyond the boundaries of our plane and once traveled between our world and theirs on the outside. These are the questions that keep me up at night. I know I'm weird but how about the rest of you? Does the idea of genetic engineering help in any way to satisfy your questions on who we are and where we come from?
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