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One part of Hamburg is still called 'Sternschanze', german for 'Star entrenchment'.Funny how most of the city's that end up in these threads turn out to be what we call Star forts/citadels!
Hamburg is right up there with the rest, in fact Germany is saturated with star fort/star civ cities, towns and hamlets! saturated with star fort/star civ cities, towns and hamlets but less so since the war or wars!View attachment 2983
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In terms of star forts and their associated field systems i would say by numbers alone that Germany was the epicenter of that old world!One part of Hamburg is still called 'Sternschanze', german for 'Star entrenchment'.Funny how most of the city's that end up in these threads turn out to be what we call Star forts/citadels!
Hamburg is right up there with the rest, in fact Germany is saturated with star fort/star civ cities, towns and hamlets! saturated with star fort/star civ cities, towns and hamlets but less so since the war or wars!View attachment 2983
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This old album is simply fantastic, the stark difference between the houses and the buildings that have so called architects design is very striking, reminds me of all those great american building with gaudy looking advertisement boards hung all over them!1883 Photobook, translated into english.
I suppose it is no coincidence that Hamburg was one of the most heavily bombed cities in WWII. Enter operation "Gomorrha" ...Funny how most of the city's that end up in these threads turn out to be what we call Star forts/citadels!
I also use these and have a few more and as such have a very extensive star fort/civ map, will get the kmz exported and put it up here for those that want it!While we're on the subject of Hamburg as a star city, and the focus on Germany as star civ central, here's the resource for diving deeper with the use of Google Earth. Fenton from starciv.org has put together an awesome catalog of star citadels in both France and Germany. The map image of Germany in Citezenship's post is the base image of the map that Fenton produced. You can zoom down and look at every one of these star forts/citadels, one KMZ file for France and one for Germany:
As promised here is a copy of my and all other star fort maps I have, hope you enjoy!I also use these and have a few more and as such have a very extensive star fort/civ map, will get the kmz exported and put it up here for those that want it!While we're on the subject of Hamburg as a star city, and the focus on Germany as star civ central, here's the resource for diving deeper with the use of Google Earth. Fenton from starciv.org has put together an awesome catalog of star citadels in both France and Germany. The map image of Germany in Citezenship's post is the base image of the map that Fenton produced. You can zoom down and look at every one of these star forts/citadels, one KMZ file for France and one for Germany:
This is too awesome not to include for posterity, and looks like the orphan trains just dropped off these kids.
Looking at those pictures, knowing how the area looks today, this is unbelievable, since there are only around 100 years in between. When I walked over the street where the children are in the photo, the place felt totally ahistoric, not a single old timber-framed building is left, only modern houses and busy streets.This is too awesome not to include for posterity, and looks like the orphan trains just dropped off these kids.
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That was the first thought that crossed my mind seeing this. Really amazing pictures. Thanks for taking the time to upload them here!This is too awesome not to include for posterity, and looks like the orphan trains just dropped off these kids.
And every person on these pics is posing, both near and far, nobody minding their own business. Though there are some ghostly figures around, exempt the posers, the streets seem to be empty.That was the first thought that crossed my mind seeing this. Really amazing pictures. Thanks for taking the time to upload them here!This is too awesome not to include for posterity, and looks like the orphan trains just dropped off these kids.
Harburg is a district of HamburgSaw this in one photo:
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Can't find evidence of 'Harburger' meaning 'Hamburger' but it would mean the Hamburger existed in Hamburg years before official history say's it did. lol
That's a caption under one of the photos. Why were houses right on the water? Built that way on purpose, or were they on dry ground at one time, and the sea came in and nearly drowned them? Very reminiscent of Venice: canals everywhere, we are told that's how the city was built, but there are more houses underneath everything.Mührenfleth east of the Wasserbaum near Spenshörn: Many houses were right on the water. The street "Spenshörn" no longer exists.