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What happened in the past, and why is it such a secret, that it requires to mislead generations of inhabitants of the planet Earth? Based on multiple instances of circumstantial evidence presented on this website, it does appear that some great cataclysmic event took place in the recent past. It might have put our planet into Dark Ages, and provided for the post apocalyptic life stile. But what true purpose stands behind covering up the existence of white Native American Kingdoms?

I do not want to go too deep into why I think the layout of this planet was well known to the people living in the 14th, 15th and 16th centuries. This would hijack the intended topic. Some pertinent links will be provided at the bottom of this article to, somewhat, substantiate this claim. I will just say, that based on the extensive geographical details provided on the 16th and 17th centuries maps, a reasonable person would conclude, that traditionally taught science does not account for the millions of surveyors needed to conduct the measurements of our planet in such an expedited manner. This same dogmatic science does not account for the means of communications required to put all the hypothetically acquired data together. How else would you produce a detailed coordinated map of the world in the 16th, 17th centuries, when supposedly there was no aerial photography, and Pigeon Post was still widely used? Prior knowledge is precisely why we have maps kin to the likes of those of Piri Reis (1465/70–1553), Orontius Finaeus (1494-1555), Hadji Ahmed and Gerardus Mercator (1512-1594). Maps bearing the knowledge of an Antarctic continent, conventionally "discovered" in the 19th century.

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The devil is in the detail. And as insignificant as they seem, there are plenty of red flags raised all over the "well documented" past. In 1492 Christopher Columbus was supposedly on his way to discover the doorway to the new continent. I personally think that he was on his way to inspect the conditions of the well known continent. I made it well known on this website, that I think that our history has been doctored to the point of being unrecognizable. This includes the well known time frames.


What we think took place during the ancient times, in reality could have happened 400-500 years ago. You might say that we have historical sources like Plato, Socrates, Homer, Strabo, etc. I will say that we do not have a single source. And here is why. I will use Plato as an example, but it pertains to any other ancient author you might think of. Plato lived between 423~328 BC.


"Some 250 known manuscripts of Plato survive. The texts of Plato as received today apparently represent the complete written philosophical work of Plato and are generally good by the standards of textual criticism. No modern edition of Plato in the original Greek represents a single source, but rather it is reconstructed from multiple sources which are compared with each other. These sources are medieval manuscripts written on vellum (mainly from 9th to 13th century AD Byzantium), papyri (mainly from late antiquity in Egypt), and from the independent testimonia of other authors who quote various segments of the works (which come from a variety of sources)." - Wiki

We have a huge, tremendous pattern of all our historical sources originating approximately between 9th and 18th centuries. None of the originals ever survive. Once again, we have no originals. And it does not matter whether we talk about Plato, who lived around 400 BC, or Strabo, who died in 24 AD. There will be no original sources. We will have copies, of the copies of the copies.


Don't take my word for it. Check for yourself: Some manuscript traditions of the Greek classics

Please, don't get me wrong, I am not saying that ancient authors did not exist. Most likely they did. Yet we should ask: what was, or was not edited within their texts? In Plato's case, we have a 1,500 year time void, during which there was a lot of wars, and a lot of victors. What historical "facts" were added to those ancient texts? What true facts were taken out?

Need a somewhat recent example? [Just look at the history of the Russian Empire made up by the German historians Müller, Schlözer and Bayer. And no matter how hard a true Russian scholar Lomonosov fought for the preservation of the authentic Russian history, it was totally re-written.]

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Do you remember all those book burnings: Nalanda and Heretical books, Mayan Codices and Timbuktu Manuscripts, US Congressional Library and Thomas Jefferson's private library, etc, etc, etc. What did those texts really contain? In this case we are specifically interested in the book burnings done by the Holy Inquisition. Coincidentally, before 1100, the Catholic Church suppressed what they believed to be heresy. What is Heresy? Wikipedia says, "Heresy is any belief or theory that is strongly at variance with established beliefs or customs, in particular the accepted beliefs of a church or religious organization." If you remember, science and religion were not the best of friends back then.


Inquisition time frame incorporating the Spanish Inquisition: pre-1100 through 1834.

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Here comes the CATCH 22: Why do we have so many "manuscript sources" popping up within this time frame? There were plenty of "heretics" who were either killed or burned at the stake. What heresy did they burn for? The dogmatic version we know. My theory, those "heretics" were scholars and highly educated individuals of the time. These "heretics" were doing their best to preserve the legacy of the pre-apocalyptic civilization. It incorporated copying whatever texts were to be destroyed, as well as recreating some of the destroyed texts from memory. Scientific texts got hit the hardest. The ones which survived make us ask questions similar to, "How could they figure this out 3,000 years ago?" General purpose texts fared much better.

Here we need to take one question into consideration: Why was our true history hidden from us? The answer, of course, we do not know. But assuming that there was a reason to hide ( including this recent pre-apocalyptic history, and knowledge), what would scholars do to preserve it? I think they would spread out as many of the semi-current events as possible within the ancient texts.

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While the entire world has been searching for Atlantis, I think its true meaning incorporates the entire planet Earth. I also recon that Atlantis was a 13th, or 14th century injection into Plato's texts, with the purpose of preserving information.

Whatever shape of this planet rings your bell, but evidence shows that this shape was very well mapped and recorded for centuries, or millennia prior to the Columbus's voyage. The reason that trip could not be done prior to 1492 was because there was "a shoal of mud in the way". After the global cataclysmic event, there had to be no knowledge of what the conditions were like on either of the American continents. Columbus's mission was sort of a reconnaissance mission to see what the environment in America was like.

Below is the picture of the Cathedral Church of Saint Andrew. It was built prior to 1490. If you believe that civilization able to produce such a structure (tonnes of them) was unable to cross over the Atlantic, or did not know there was a huge continent a few thousand miles due west, you need to ask a contemporary complex structure builder what knowledge is required to build anything similar to Wells Cathedral.

So, Columbus goes to Americas, comes back, and reports that everything appears cool there, lots of gold survived, but the mankind, did not recover from the cataclysm the same way Europeans did. Americans lost all their scientific basis, and were still fairly primitive in their recovery process. Also they were pretty spread out. Europe struggling financially decides to take advantage, and capitalize on the unfortunate "Native Americans". You know the official version.

Here we come to a possible chronological shift. Below are two possible scenarios

1. Conventional Timing
Hernán Cortés conquered Aztec Empire by 1521. Francisco Pizarro sealed the conquest of Peru by 1533. From 1534 to 1536, 15 Captaincy colonies were created in Portuguese America (Brazil).
  • So what about the North America? The Roanoke Colony was unsuccessfully established in 1585 on Roanoke Island, North Carolina. It was a late 16th-century attempt by Queen Elizabeth I to establish a permanent English settlement in North America. Clearly Roanoke Colony failed. Guess when the first colony was finally established? It happened in 1607. Jamestown.
  • The South America had been pretty much conquered for at least 50 years, while nobody could get a foothold on as much as an island in the vicinity of the North American Continent.
2. Chronological shift
  • Basically same as #1 above, but the conquest of North America was happening simultaneously with that of the South America. Obviously that would make our North American timing a deliberately incorrect one.
Mismatch of the Military Forces.

  • One of the best books I have ever read was the "AZTEC" by Garry Jennings (1928-1999). Highly recommend, by the way. But ever since I was wondering, how Cortes with 15 horses and 500 men besieged Tenochtitlan with population of 200,000 - 300,000 people. Info: "Aztec military - bolstered by conscription of all adult males, men supplied from allied and conquered states, and such elite groups as the Eagle and Jaguar warriors - swept aside their rivals." A bit later with a few additional men and horses Cortes conquers a 5,000,000 person Aztec Empire. I know the official history says that Cortes made an ally with some of the tribes conquered by the Azteca's, but this is still a humongous mismatch.

  • Coincidentally, Francisco Pizzaro also acquired some local allies, and sealed the victory over Incas with 180 soldiers. In both of the above cases Emperors Moctezuma II and Atahualpa were miraculously killed early on.
Cortes and Pizzaro

  • And of course we have this similar scenario in Jamestown, North America. This one I will have to quote a few sources, "On May 14, 1607, a group of roughly 100 members of a joint venture called the Virginia Company founded the first permanent English settlement in North America on the banks of the James River. Famine, disease and conflict with local Native American tribes in the first two years brought Jamestown to the brink of failure before the arrival of a new group of settlers and supplies in 1610. In the spring of 1610, just as the remaining colonists were set to abandon Jamestown, two ships arrived bearing at least 150 new settlers, a cache of supplies and the new English governor of the colony, Lord De La Warr." - Jamestown Colony

"The settlement was located within the country of Tsenacommacah, which was ruled by the Powhatan Confederacy, and specifically in that of the Paspahegh tribe. The natives initially welcomed and provided crucial provisions and support for the colonists, who were not agriculturally inclined. Relations soured fairly early on, however, leading to the total annihilation of the Paspahegh in warfare within three years." Wikipedia

"It is estimated that there were about 14,000–21,000 Powhatan people in eastern Virginia when the English colonized Jamestown in 1607." - Wikipedia


We are being told that 200 colonists including women, and children annihilated 20,000 locals, including their warriors. Of course we have this magic assistant called European Disease.

Chickenpox and Co. Mystery
As we all know, up to 90% of all the Native American population was wiped out by this total killer consisting of chicken pox, pneumonic plague, cholera, diphtheria, influenza, measles, scarlet fever, typhus, tuberculosis, and whooping cough.

Well, let us check something out: Birds and Their Droppings Can Carry Over 60 Transmissible Diseases

What are the bird migratory routes?

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There are 297 species using the flyway and tens of thousands of individuals per year.

And of course scientists are learning new things every day: Infectious disease transmission in fish, mammals, other animals has implications for humans

Additionally we have those perfectly healthy vikings headed by the incredible Leif Eriksson, who failed to bring a single "killer disease" to the North America: The Viking Explorer Who Beat Columbus to America

I think you see where I'm going with this. All these so called "killer diseases" were present in the Americas ever since the time of the Global Empire. Especially when the Bering Strait is only 51 miles wide. Whatever killed 90% of the Native American population, probably, did not get as much help from diseases as we were led to believe.

Native Americans
"Research by some scholars provides population estimates of the pre-contact Americas to be as high as 112 million in 1492, while others estimate the population to have been as low as eight million. In any case, the native population declined to less than six million by 1650." - The Native Population of the Americas in 1492. I personally do not see how you confuse 112 millions with eight, but this type of science is trusted at will. They say it was 112 mil max. Considering that almost all of Native Americans got killed, there was probably five times that before Columbus rediscovered America.

First of all, why is our general concept of the 17th, and 18th century typical Native American appearance looks like this? Probably because of the books and movies like the Last of the Mahicans. Was this concept enforced deliberately? I believe so.


Googling for White Native Americans will produce the following images


Where are our Native Americans looking like the guys below? Where is our education about the Native American Kingdoms in the North America? How many Native American Kings do you know? How many of you have ever heard of any? But everybody knows about Indian Chiefs.


The King of Florida

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The King of New England

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Mandan Indians

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Tuch-ee, A Celebrated War Chief of the Cherokees

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Sequoya or George Guess Inventor of the Cherokee Alphabet

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The Native Americans worship Ribault's column
This column was left two years earlier by Laudonnière on the St. Johns River near Jacksonville.
(of course Laudonnière brought this chunk of granite with him)

King Satouriona prepares his men for battle

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Timucua Indians


Widows ritually mourning before the king

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Timucan Indian princess borne aloft in a wedding procession

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Timucan Indians fighting alligators

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White Giants of Susquehannocks
John Smith, huge Pocahontas and the Avatar Giants of Susquehannocks
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Nootka Tribe
Vancouver Island

Natchez Tribe


Chief (probably a King) Tecumseh


Chief of the Kaw


Algonquin Indian


Montagnais Indians - Innu Indians

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Fox Indians

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Delaware Lenape Native American

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Nippising Tribe Couple

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Chief of the Mi'kmaq Indians and ally of the French


Menominee Indians


Passamaquoddy Princess


Abenaki Indians


Mohawk Indians

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South American Indian

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Hernán Cortés with Montezuma II

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Tahuglauk and Mozeemlek
The forgotten people of Tahuglauk and Mozeemlek: 17th century North America
These ones I have no images of, but they sound pretty white and advanced.
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Our World Wide Web is full of these images, and I could go like this forever. Yet, we need to understand, that officially there were no white Native Americans. Historians can not find any sufficient confirmation to such an egregious claim.

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I don't know, something does not feel right, especially with North America. Ancient Egyptian evidence in Grand Canyon? (I know it was debunked, just like everything else)


I will simply copy and paste an excerpt from one of my previous posts.

Below is an image representing the advancement of the North American newcomers to the west.


Columbus set foot on Hispaniola in 1492. Cortez overthrew the entire Aztec Empire by 1521. Pizarro conquered Peru and defeated Incas by 1535. Yet the North American settlers barely made it to the Mississippi river by 1820. 300 year difference is bizarre. Did North American natives have better defensive equipment? Well, may be they did. May be they had an army to defend themselves. The one we will never be told about.
Do we know all the truth about American Independence and Civil wars? Is current push for the destruction of the Confederate army monuments based on the provided reasons, or we simply keep on erasing the evidence of the previous civilization?

Was only one type of Native Americans allowed to survive the "colonization"?

Could "pre-American" America look like this, or Achievement Expositions took care of this problem?


Some of the articles to consider (for I believe there is a common denominator somewhere)
- The forgotten people of Tahuglauk and Mozeemlek: 17th century North America
- Bizarre transformation of the North American Continent: 16th through 19th centuries
- The impossible 1587 Urbano Monte's World Map
- What happened to the Siberian forests 200 years ago?
- What was Giovanni Battista Piranesi trying to say. 17-18th century apocalypse?
- Mud flood, dirt rain, and the story of the buried buildings
- Was there a Global Flood, or a Disaster in 1860-1870?
- 400 year old Sahara Desert, or why people forgot everything they knew about Africa
- Who really built Russian Saint Petersburg? Did they dig it out?
- The destruction of the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago
- The destruction of the 1904 Louisiana Purchase Exposition in Saint Louis
- The impossible ship: SS Great Eastern a.k.a. Leviathan
- The impossible colossal "King Bath Tub" - who really produced this monster?
- Kulibin's egg-shaped clock presented to Catherine II in 1769
Note: This OP was recovered from the Maxine archive.

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