Operation Dnepr-1 and Dnepr-2 as a possible elimination of the old-world survivors

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Foreword
Some time ago, I promised to share with you some curious information about the old world survivors/representatives. I have finally found time to compile the info together and translate it. But you should be aware of the fact, that this info is not my original finding. Actually it is a translation/summary of two information materials (originally presented in Russian):

1) «Barchenko’s expedition, nuclear explosions in Khibiny and Chivruay Pass incident are all links of the same chain.» (an article in Russian language)
2) «Mysteries of the Kola Peninsula. Nuclear war in Khibiny? Project Dnepr. Memories of an eyewitness.». (a video in Russian language)

Both information materials are connected by one topic – the Kola Peninsula, and the mysteries that surround it. As the name suggests, the article (first link) touches upon three different topics at once. The video (second link) focuses specifically on the «nuclear tests» in the Khibiny mountain range, codenamed «Dnepr». Although all of the mentioned topics are interesting, I will focus your attention only on one of them, namely the Dnepr project, which is discussed in more detail in the video.

You should also understand that there is no way I can verify this info, as almost all of it is presented in a style of either an eyewitness’ report or an urban legend. So take it with a grain of salt. I personally found it curious, and hope that you will find it curious too.

Introduction
First, let's take a brief look at who Barchenko was, why he went to that expedition, and how it is connected with the subsequent «nuclear tests».

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Alexander Barchenko was born in 1881 in the Russian Empire. It is known from open sources that from his youth Barchenko was interested in various occult knowledge, as well as in the search for traces of old civilizations. He was also very interested in parapsychology, and everything that was associated with paranormal phenomena, which is reflected in the subject matter of the articles that he published in scientific journals of that time:

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Fragments of A. Barchenko's article from the journal «Nature and People», № 31 and № 32, 1911. The articles talk about the «transmission of thoughts over a distance.»

After the October Revolution, he got a job at the Bekhterev Institute, the oldest research and clinical institution in Russia, organized for the scientific development of psychology, psychiatry, neurology and other disciplines that study the human psyche. This institute also conducted various parapsychological experiments that were very interesting to the OGPU, a predecessor of NKVD and KGB. At some point, Barchenko began working for a special department of the OGPU, under the leadership of a certain G.I. Bokiya. Occult and paranormal phenomena were one of the areas of work of this department.

At the OGPU, Barchenko was engaged in hypnosis, telepathy, astrology and other similar things. Subsequently, he became a scientific consultant to the «Glavnauka» (some kind of state department, related to science), as well as a head of the neuroenergetic laboratory of the All-Union Institute of Experimental Medicine, supervised by the same organization.

One of Barchenko's main projects was the search for traces of disappeared civilizations (one of the sources that I came across even said that they were interested in finding «magicians» who secretly control the course of world history). Apparently, all secret and closed organizations were engaged in such research at that time. In the early 1920s, Barchenko managed to organize an expedition to the Kola Peninsula, in search of traces/heritage of Hyperborea – the ancestral home of mankind. But a more practical and concrete task was the study of the strange phenomenon called «мерячение» (from Russian it can be roughly translated as «state/experience of illusion») that manifested itself in that area. This phenomenon made people feel like they are under hypnosis – people who found themselves in the area of its action experienced strange visions, or completely lost their minds. Thus, the OGPU had enough reasons to organize an expedition there - whatever they were to find there could be reverse-engineered into useful technologies, such as psychotronic weapons to subdue consciousness.

Most of the available sources say that the expedition found many traces of some ancient civilization, including various megalithic artifacts, underground passages, as well as a small settlement of local residents who told unusual legends about their past.

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Although these people were also to some extent the surviving descendants of the people of the old world, they are not the survivors that I mentioned in the title.

Some sources, that I came across, also had the following information: one of the underground passages, that the members of the expedition tried to penetrate, had a strange «defense system», which made people feel severe fear/panic when trying to enter the tunnel and go deeper. Unfortunately now it is impossible to check whether this is true or not, but personally I am inclined to believe that this is true (because I have already heard about such defense system, but in another place, namely in Mount Kailash). Apparently, it had a certain generator/emitter of waves of a certain frequency, which affected the brain/consciousness.

Be that as it may, if you wish, you can independently find more detailed information about this expedition. There are quite a few facts in this article (It is in Russian, but you can use Google Translate). The truth is, nobody knows for sure what they found there. Because the most interesting finds made during the expedition were classified. Barchenko himself was shot for high treason in 1938, and apparently, the reason for this was that he knew too much.

But how does this all relate to the nuclear tests in that area, carried out 50 years later? It turns out that the phenomenon of «мерячение», mentioned a bit earlier, disappeared right after the completion of nuclear tests (though, this information can not be verified). At the same time, this zone was opened for tourists and researchers (previously it was a prohibited one).

Either way, there are many more odd facts and rumors surrounding this place, which all indicate that everything was not as simple as we are told (as usual). One of such pieces of info was presented by a person named Alexander Osipov, who is a real eyewitness of the Dnepr Project nuclear tests. Further on you will read a translation of the video from the second link, which tells the story of Alexander.

The story of the eyewitness

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Alexander Osipov.

In the late 1960s, Alexander studied at the Leningrad Mining Institute in Kirovsk and then worked there in one of the branches of the USSR Ministry of Chemical Industry.

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It was 1970 when he first found out about the planned nuclear explosion in Khibiny (inside the Kuelpor mountain). Everyone in the city talked about it. He notes that three years prior to that, there was a similar nuclear explosion near Almaty, but it was not successful (as far as he knows). According to the eyewitness, at that time no one in his city knew that the Kola Peninsula was within the radius of negative impact and precipitation from the explosion of the Tsar Bomb, which was tested in 1961.

He recalls how, as a 9-year-old child, he saw people in NBC suits scanning black snow that fell in his city because of radiation.

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Further on Alexander recalls that conversations among local workers were only about the explosion. People discussed the issue of possible consequences. It was often possible to hear how someone was telling a story received from a relative who worked at some test site either in Semipalatinsk, or on Novaya Zemlya, and who saw how ground collapses during underground explosions. The question whether the mountain would fall through or fly up to air after the planned explosion, was seriously discussed at that time.

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But conversations flared up again when a local electrician returned from a certain «experimental mine» (this was the name of the object where the explosion was to be made). Alexander recalls that the electrician talked about the preparation process which he saw there (which included stuff like cable stacking and installation of various sensors). But some time later, a very odd situation happened to that electrician. One day he was found dead in his office, being shot (killed) by a fastening tool. All this was presented as a suicide.

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The murder weapon looked something like this.

There was some formal investigation, but nobody was punished or charged with murder. The weapon (tool) itself mysteriously disappeared the same day everything happened.

In subsequent years, information about the explosion either faded or appeared with new details. But one day it became known that the bomb would be delivered to the city on the following day. And so it happened. A convoy with a trailer appeared in the city. The trailer was filled with sand and had a metal box inside, which was suspended on stretchers to avoid shacking or breaking. The weight of the bomb was about 300-400 kg. The convoy was guarded by the military and local police. The bomb was delivered without incident.

On September 4, 1972, in the depths of Mount Kuelpor, in the western part of the Khibiny massif, in an adit, at an altitude of 131 meters (with a total height of the mountain being 902 meters), a nuclear bomb, with a yield of 2100 kilotons (in TNT equivalent), exploded. The operation was codenamed Dnepr-1.

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Participants of the operation «Dnepr-1».

The first explosion caused an earthquake of 4.5 points (scale not specified). Most residents anxiously awaited the possible consequences of the explosion. These events took place 14 years before Chernobyl, and then no one fully realized the danger of radiation. Some, who had the opportunity, took their relatives to the mainland in advance.

On August 27, 1984, the second underground atomic explosion was conducted, in a new adit at an altitude of 175 meters under the same Kuelpor mountain. It was code-named «Dnepr-2».

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The explosion was done in two turns, 1700 kilotons each. (i.e. carried out with a slight delay). As a result there was a double earthquake (the seismic waves felt like they were superimposed on each another, although the total force of the earthquake was similar to the first explosion (the one that was in 1972).

There was a rumor in the city that the latest explosion was a test of new neutron charges. Back then nobody knew what the consequences would be, and people spread rumors that an earthquake of up to 7 points should be expected. There was a pretty good reason for this fear. Because on the eve of the explosion, local authorities announced that on the following day, from 9 am to 11 am, everyone should stay outdoors, at a nearby stadium (although the charges were detonated earlier, at 6 am).

Witnesses of the first explosion said that they saw with their own eyes how at the moment of the explosion the top of the mountain seemed to jump up and then sank back. It is believed that it was at this moment that the release of radioactive substances into the atmosphere happened.

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Subsequently, the fear was confirmed by the fact that after the explosions, the Scandinavian countries prohibited their planes to fly above the Kola Peninsula (the ban was lifted only a month later). Local authorities, however, asserted that no increase of radiation was detected in the area of Mount Kuelpor. However, even 50 years later, the water stream that flows out of the mountain has an increased radiation values (in comparison with normal values).

After the explosion, at about 15 o'clock that day, a gray cloud crept to Kirovsk from the north and a light rain began to fall. One our former co-worker named Galina Popova turned out to be outdoors when that rain started (she told me about it herself). A year later, she died of cancer. Subsequently, many women that lived in Kirovsk fell ill with cancer and died. According to the medical statistics of local health authorities, from 1970 to 1990, female oncology in Kirovsk increased 26 times.

Another curious detail comes from my own son Alexey. He noticed that all the boys whose mothers were already pregnant before the explosion began to turn gray very early, from the age of 20. They all had this strange genetic mutation.

And the following information sounds no less creepy. According to Alexander, during the preparation for the second explosion, his father (an employee of the city executive committee), during some evening events with military officers (that had ranks of colonels), who oversaw the organization of the operation, asked them what they thought about the possible death of city residents after the explosion if something goes wrong. The answer of one of the colonels shocked him by its cynicism and cannibalistic cruelty. He replied, «How many people are there? 50 thousand? Well ..... if there were 500 thousand of you, then it would be worth doing something, otherwise ..... it will be collateral losses.».

This is where the eyewitness’ recollection ends, and then the author of the video (Loki Wotan) begins his reasoning.

Loki Wotan’s comments
According to the official version, the purpose of the entire operation was to conduct an experiment and develop a new technology for underground mining of ores, using nuclear explosions to crush sections of ore bodies. In this context, we are talking about a mineral called apatite, which in turn is a raw material for the production of phosphate fertilizers and phosphoric acid. It is also used in ferrous and nonferrous metallurgy, in the production of ceramics and glass.

Now imagine what would have happened if the ore mined this way (which is about 396,000 tons) had been sent to various enterprises. This ore was obviously radioactive and unusable.

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Here is a curious fact from the comrade_major’s article, that supports Loki Wotan’s view:

RAS employee A.V. Yablokov, in his book «The Myth of the Safety and Efficiency of Peaceful Underground Nuclear Explosions», in Chapter 3.4 quotes lines from the report on the explosion of «Dnepr-1», which describes the result of rock crushing, that produced about 400 thousand tons of ore.

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The author of the book notes one suspicious oddity. With all the volume of ore that they managed to produce, it was decided not to use it under the pretext that there were no roads in the region for its transportation. A.V. Yablokov believes that such a reason for refusing to export ore cannot be taken seriously, and the fact that thirty years later all this volume of ore hasn’t been used by anyone may indicate either the ineffectiveness of this explosion, or that extraction of ore was not at all the main goal of the experiment.
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Returning back to Loki Wotan’s comments:

If the explosion of the Dnepr-1 experiment can somehow be explained by the lack of experimental data, then the second one does not fit into the picture at all. Was 12 years really not enough for them to draw conclusions about ineffectiveness of this type of ore extraction? Or maybe the real goal was not mining at all? Recall, for example, the statement of that colonel about collateral losses .... such things are usually spoken about in the context of of hostile presence. So here a logical question arises – against whom could they conduct military operations there?

Immediately I recall one interesting conclusion made by a person named Makhov A.V., who worked as an employee of a scientific department of the border security. He said the following: «there was some significant problem of a national scale. Most likely there was some kind of threat. This threat was hiding almost throughout the whole underground part of the Lovozero massif. It was impossible to get directly to its source. Man was overcome by animal fear, besides the fact that it was expensive and could take a lot of time. Also, possible opposition could not be disregarded. The problem could be quickly and cheaply eliminated only with the help of a directed longitudinal-wave nuclear explosion. So, after meticulous discussions and calculations, the corresponding government decision was made, and not just made, but also brilliantly executed.»

Moreover, a nuclear explosion, particularly an underground one, could not be directed from the point of view of mechanical impact on the rock. To create a mechanically directed explosion, you need to use two or more nuclear charges, which are detonated with a certain period of time between them. The Dnepr project assumed the use of something more than just the mechanical energy of the charge. As you know, a nuclear explosion is capable of generating a powerful and very short-term electromagnetic pulse. It was this factor of influence on the anomalous zone that was the main technical task of the developers and implementers of the Dnepr project. And the impact was most likely successful. The first explosion burned the anomaly. It was similar to how a voltage drop in the network burns household appliances in the house. With the second explosion, the object was finally finished off, causing irreversible changes in the geological structures that generate and output telluric radiation to the surface. Most likely, the nuclear explosive devices used in the project were not simple bombs, but rather electromagnetic ones. In other words, their design was such that the energy of the nuclear reaction was converted mainly into an electromagnetic pulse. Such a charge (called an explosive magnetic generator) can indeed be oriented so as to obtain either horizontal polarization of the electromagnetic pulse wave or the vertical one.

In total, in the period of 1965 to 1988, during the implementation of the «Nuclear Explosions for the National Economy» program, 124 nuclear explosions were made on the territory of the USSR. All explosions were underground.

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Afterword

If everything turns out to be truth, it gives a completely new sense to the numerous nuclear tests and explosions of the 20th century. Moreover, what if the whole nuclear program was created not fight the opponents in the cold war, but rather to fight someone else? Were they expecting a retaliation from the old enemy? Given that all countries are obviously under control of one shadow/world government (since the fall of the old world), why would they need nuclear weapons in the first place? All this deserves a more thorough study.
 

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Ernst Muldashev in his book where do we come from claims in the Mountains of Tibet & others, Atlantians & Aryans reside in caves in a deep trance. They are able to protrect themselves by emiting energy that disorientates, confuses & eventually kills anyone attempting to enter the cave.

Very similar to the account here.

Same thing?
 

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Ernst Muldashev in his book where do we come from claims in the Mountains of Tibet & others, Atlantians & Aryans reside in caves in a deep trance. They are able to protrect themselves by emiting energy that disorientates, confuses & eventually kills anyone attempting to enter the cave.

Very similar to the account here.

Same thing?

I heard something about his research, and the defense system he describes is probably the same thing. But I think that he is exaggerating about the "trance" thing. I am almost sure that if such a thing was installed there, it would be some kind of technical device, not a human.
The Atlantians/Aryans Tartarians living in caves - brings up this story for me: Archaeologists Discover a Woman In a Marble Casket which is 800 Million Years Old

Do our handlers know there is a plasma reset coming? Is that the reason for the massive cave military holdings? I lost a hard drive recently - I can't find the link to this: "Russia has caves to herd 85% of Russia into - in case of calamity!"

I recall seeing several reports from different places about mysterious coffins being found, but its definitely not 800 millions years old, this is just crazy and impossible. But I do believe that coffins were found. I just wouldn't expect to get any more details except for the fact that it was found. As it is written in the news report, such findings are usually instantly taken care of by special people who hide and classify it forever.
 

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Some time ago, I promised to share with you some curious information about the old world survivors/representatives. I have finally found time to compile the info together and translate it. But you should be aware of the fact, that this info is not my original finding. Actually it is a translation/summary of two information materials (originally presented in Russian):

Awesome - translated: Die Eliminierung der Überlebenden der alten Welt durch russische "Atomtests"
 

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This is amazing, I've never heard of it before. It made me wonder was the cold war ( and the ussr entity) just an excuse to take care of places/dangers like this just as the American war on terror in the middle east gave the american's an excuse to get into Afghanistan and Iraq etc.
One of the first things the US did was to raid museums and historical places in Iraq if I recall correctly. Nice thread.
 

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In the early 1920s, Barchenko managed to organize an expedition to the Kola Peninsula, in search of traces/heritage of Hyperborea – the ancestral home of mankind.

How does one come to this conclusion? That is, how do we know it -- Hyperborea-- is the "home of man kind?" And what does this term "home of man kind" mean?

How important, as an axiom, is it to your argument that the Soviets were blowing up traces of the past to destroy this home? How do you know that is what they were doing?

Please know, I am sympathetic to your argument.

In either case, while the report is interesting, the conclusions are presupposed.

Since we don't know why the Soviets were blowing things up, we could conclude they were attacking aliens or simply doing weapons tests or...? In other words, unless we assume the Soviets were after prior civilizations, I can't find conclusive evidence in this piece that they were.
 

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How does one come to this conclusion? That is, how do we know it -- Hyperborea-- is the "home of man kind?" And what does this term "home of man kind" mean?

How important, as an axiom, is it to your argument that the Soviets were blowing up traces of the past to destroy this home? How do you know that is what they were doing?

Please know, I am sympathetic to your argument.

In either case, while the report is interesting, the conclusions are presupposed.

Since we don't know why the Soviets were blowing things up, we could conclude they were attacking aliens or simply doing weapons tests or...? In other words, unless we assume the Soviets were after prior civilizations, I can't find conclusive evidence in this piece that they were.

First of all, I should repeat that this thread is first and foremost a translations of someone else's work. So I can't fully answer for all the presented arguments and conclusions (even though I may agree to some/most of them).

As for Barchenko and his expedition to the Kola peninsula, it is a pretty well-known fact, in terms of when and why they went there. You don't even have to listen to me, as there are plenty of books and articles written on this topic, as well as about Hyperborea.

As for the Soviets, I personally don't think they had a clear and straight forward plan to destroy and hide the remaining traces. I think initially they just wanted to get the old knowledge, but later on, an order could come from the very top, to stop their research, kill unnecessary witnesses, and classify the most crucial pieces of information.

The nuclear program and all nuclear tests are a closed and classified topic as well. We indeed can't be sure about all the goals and purposes. But given the fact they they decided to conduct this explosion right in the area where Barchenko's expedition took place, and also taking into account all those rumors and eyewitnesses' reports, one can make a conclusion that there COULD be some connection. Nobody says that the presented info is a 100% truth. But I understand that you would like to hear more facts and info on this question......I guess everyone does. Unfortunately I don't have any other info to share at this moment. If I ever come across additional proofs, I will gladly present them here.
 

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Please help me understand why Hyperborea is considered the home of mankind by some.
 

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Please help me understand why Hyperborea is considered the home of mankind by some.

? it's a very long story to be honest, I don't even know what to start with. The easiest way for you to understand this, would be to read some of the already existing threads/articles on this topic (I've seen a couple of Hyperborea-related threads on this forum, they should give a general idea). But if you want to hear my explanation, here it is, in a very brief form:

There has been a widely-accepted concept for many years that humans came from Africa (developing from apes). Fortunately, many people didn't like this concept as it is absurd (at least in my opinion), so they started looking for other theories. And it turned out that such theories existed, and were quite popular throughout the end of the 19th century and the beginning of the 20th century. One of such theories concluded that we came not from Africa but from the north. It was the time when our civilization hasn't been fully transformed in ideological terms into what we have now, so the existence of this info was not just a theory, but rather a reflection of some former knowledge (at least that's how I see it). As for the Hyperborea and its role in this theory/concept, it just turned out to be the most probable place, due to the various legends, found across the whole planet. Legends that told about a mythical land in the north, where gods and humans lived together during the golden age. This place was just perfect and most logical, so that's why it has been (and still is) considered a place where mankind came from.
 

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Oh well, out of Africa is extremely dubious-- if only because it is the official narrative. I understand the general narrative about Hyperborea from Newearth. It is also very interesting that the Arctic is off limits. But I still long for hard proof, as you note.

Why the Soviets were blowing up underground places while, at the same time, the Americans were blowing up islands in the Pacific and deserts in Nevada and elsewhere is certainly a mystery that deserves investigation. These actions seem linked to Operation Fishbowl-- in which the US military tried to blow a hole through the dome.

I'm not sure I could be more perplexed.
 
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You promised a curiousity, and a curiousity has been delivered.
Even if this is only a fun story of a government-run event, it is just that. Fun.
Imagination fuel, at the very least, but I think more importantly; this highlights the explicit need for access to information hidden behind NDA's and governmental classification levels.
This story, while unique in some aspects, smacks of similar activity that occurred simultaneously in the U.S.; not with regards to nuclear tests, but with regards to subterrenean cave, aquifer and river diversion done by the USACE in those decades.
The practical applications of geological restructuring were so valued, many of the officer class of the USACE spent the initial stages of Egypt's unearthing traveling between the southwest US and Egypt for "work".
The curiosity, it seems, lies in the idea that the content in this post showcases the geological restructuring of yet another area untouched by industrial man; to the detriment of any historian or archeologist's future explorations.

Knowing that the soviets spent resources and intel as currency to buy geo-engineering and large-scale land rescaping techniques from the US in those decades, it seems (if we are to correlate the events and form an idea) that whatever the US had successfully erased from the face of the westernmost edge of the continent; the soviets apparently paid a high price to employ those techniques across their own landmass.
While I won't deign to speak on the conjectures the ideas here may allow, this is certainly imagination fuel.
One does wonder what they're hiding (or exposing), and if not immediately relevant; this may be a nail in a future coffin whenever additional points can be correlated.
Thanks again for the translation.
 

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This story, while unique in some aspects, smacks of similar activity that occurred simultaneously in the U.S.; not with regards to nuclear tests, but with regards to subterrenean cave, aquifer and river diversion done by the USACE in those decades.
The practical applications of geological restructuring were so valued, many of the officer class of the USACE spent the initial stages of Egypt's unearthing traveling between the southwest US and Egypt for "work".

Could you please tell me more about these underground works? Or maybe give some leads/links where I can find more info? I've never heard of it. Would really like to investigate it at some point.

I heard that US territory has a huge underground caves network, with some areas allegedly used as secret underground facilities, but info on this topic is very scarce for obvious reasons.
 

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These underground tunnels they bombarded, they could have been passages to the inner Earth, where people from the Old World could have taken refuge. But more than a hundred of these passages, and only in Russia, would make one wonder why there weren't such "tests" in other countries as well.
Maybe this explains why the so-called "tartarian architecture" (if we assume the Tartaria narrative to extend to the US) would not be present in eastern Siberia (in such high numbers as in the western US). The tartarians could have moved the buildings to the inner Earth, using these passages and some advanced technology, capable of moving entire buildings at once (which would explain the castles which were moved from Europe to America). Remnants of the Old World would be living below Russia, hence the bombings.
 

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By the way, there is one more "curiosity", related to the Kola Peninsula. I learnt about it from an article and a corresponding video about this article from the same sources:
Original article
Video based on this article

In May 1942, a mysterious case occurred at the Kola Bay near Cape Mishukovo. 152nd rifle division of the Red Army, that was conducting some operation there, somehow froze to death almost in its entirety (80% of personnel). According to the official version, this division froze due to unpreparedness for too harsh weather. But I personally do not believe this version, and suppose that there was something else that was classified. The official archive documents that were found by the author look suspiciously vague and incomplete. Unfortunately I don't have spare time to translate it all (as it is not that interesting, given that there is almost no info available, except for the fact that they froze), but you can google translate it yourself if you become interested in this case.

Actually the Kola peninsula is surrounded by mysteries and secrets, and the YouTube channel of Loki Wotan tells a lot of them, but it is in Russian, so I don't think anyone here will be able to watch his videos. But keep in mind that this channel exists, and the person behind it has devoted a great part of his life researching Kola Peninsula (I think he lives there). Maybe one day I will translate more stuff from his channel.
 

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Could you please tell me more about these underground works? Or maybe give some leads/links where I can find more info? I've never heard of it. Would really like to investigate it at some point.

I heard that US territory has a huge underground caves network, with some areas allegedly used as secret underground facilities, but info on this topic is very scarce for obvious reasons.
I can PM you, if you like; or I can just dump the links here in the thread.
There are a great many, so I've chosen just a few, to whet the appetite.
Most of what I have personally stored, is field reports from the USACE before the year 1920, however there is extensive documentation of the boring out and refacing of the continent.
The subject really is a topic all it's own, with a history as muddled and far-reaching as anything you might expect.
 

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I can PM you, if you like; or I can just dump the links here in the thread.
There are a great many, so I've chosen just a few, to whet the appetite.
Most of what I have personally stored, is field reports from the USACE before the year 1920, however there is extensive documentation of the boring out and refacing of the continent.
The subject really is a topic all it's own, with a history as muddled and far-reaching as anything you might expect.

Thanks! I think it would be better to leave those links here, so that everyone can see them.
 

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Could you please tell me more about these underground works? Or maybe give some leads/links where I can find more info? I've never heard of it. Would really like to investigate it at some point.

I heard that US territory has a huge underground caves network, with some areas allegedly used as secret underground facilities, but info on this topic is very scarce for obvious reasons.

https://stolenhistory.net/threads/army-corps-of-engineers-benign-builders-or-history-erasers.429/
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/the-ccc-civilian-conservation-corps.1199/
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/mormons-among-others-built-a-dumb-on-the-33rd-parallel.1147/
 

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Interesting thread!
Here's a few comments from under the video:
My childhood and youth were spent at point Semipalatinsk-4. I think that Kazakhstan and Kola were chosen to be bombed on purpose, there was a nuclear war or a war similar to it 200 years ago. This was evidenced by the marble Gothic columns or stucco moldings that occasionally appeared from under the sand in the steppe. Glassy balls in the Irtysh and sintered sand in the steppe - tektites. The Central Committee apparently knew about this, so these places were specially chosen for the landfill ...
They were bombing in Kurchatov (Point Bereg) - every Saturday and Sunday ... On the radio, I remember, they announced - "Everyone should go out into the street, lie face down. An explosion will be made for geological purposes." And then, at once a siren from Messer sounded - at the garrison officers' house. But, nothing, they survived, gave birth to children and now everything is standing and moving, although there were open explosions and burst out of the mines more than once ...
Yes exactly. My granny, arrived there in 1956 and took part in open tests. She told me that lying in a ditch, through parted eyes, she saw her friend's skeleton shining through. Then people still did not know anything ... Well, the supplies were in the town - be healthy, it was impossible to buy such products in Moscow - "a corner of communism" ... By the way, I saw a real UFO there for the first time and I was not alone. They often appeared there and raised the alarm in the whole town ... Then in the "Trud" newspaper they wrote that UFOs are, they say, bs to soar the brain of the unemployed in the United States and distract from problems ... But we saw it really and almost every week, and the pilots told how they pursued all the way to Iran or neutral waters in the North, but they could not catch up, although they were moving right in front of them. There, in general, there was enough anomalousness.
in Murmansk, 150 UFOs were commonplace, no one was worried at all)))

Article and a video before this one mentioned giant Kuyva and the Seyd-lake.
Basically, in local Sami folklore, this lake was a home of the gods. One time, a giant named Kuyva attacked the locals and they told the gods about it - they were, understandably, pissed and immediately killed the giant with lightning. Reminds me of something...
This is the supposed resting place of Kuyva
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He also mentioned that some expedition there saw a strange creature that killed one of the members.
USSR's solution to a skinwalker - just nuke him lol

Apparently this мерячение is not the only one disease like this

In other video Wotan mentions personally witnessing ~100 "Roman" roads on the Peninsula, some reaching 1000 km

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