The Nature of the Beast (Part 1) Religion: Old World vs New World

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The Nature of the Beast (Part 1) Religion: Old World vs New World

To Suffer under Sufferance

The entire record of official history is a litany of suffering on an unimaginable scale. If it were possible to strip away all the lies, fabrications and distortions, the picture would still be much the same, maybe even worse – if that were possible. Is that really the sum total of human achievement – the perfection of suffering? What is the nature of the beast that lies behind all of this suffering and was it always so?

[PLEASE NOTE: Due to its size, this series of posts was originally published in two parts under the title “The Doctrine of Suffering - its Origin & Effect on History.” Due to technical difficulties during restoration from the SH1 archive, many of the images were lost. I have taken the opportunity to re-post the entirety under a new title in six smaller parts:]

Some definitions of the word ‘suffer’ are very revealing:

Suffer (v.)
  • mid-13c., "allow to occur or continue, permit, tolerate, fail to prevent or suppress," also "to be made to undergo, endure, be subjected to".​
  • Replaced Old English þolian, þrowian. The meaning "submit meekly to" is from the early 14th century. The meaning "undergo, be subject to, be affected by, experience; be acted on by an agent" is from the late 14th century. (Source)

In Mark 10:14 and Luke 18:16 of the KJV New Testament, it is written “But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.”
The meaning of ‘suffer’ here is clearly a command to “allow” or “consent to” in the ‘put-up-with-it’ sense.
From this it would appear that suffering is caused by an external influence and is something we consent to or submit to willingly. None of the above definitions indicate that suffering involves discomfort or pain.

The noun ‘sufferance’ means,
  • Passive permission resulting from lack of interference. Tolerance, especially of something wrong or illegal.
  • The capacity to endure pain, hardship, etc.; endurance.
  • Archaic. suffering; misery.
  • Archaic. patient endurance. (Source)
  • “on sufferance”, means “with unwilling permission.”

Finally we have a link to ‘misery’, but ‘pain’ is only referred to in relation to the duration within which it can be endured.
It would be very easy to substitute the phrase “to be born into this world” for “to suffer.” Let’s see if it works:

“To be made to undergo, endure, be subjected to, submit meekly to, allow or consent to the experience of being acted on by an agent.”

“Let’s try substituting “living in this world requires” for “on sufferance”:

“Your passive permission, lack of interference, tolerance (especially of something wrong or illegal), the capacity to endure pain, hardship, etc. and your patient endurance of misery.”

Spot-on in my opinion and I’m not alone in this either. The lecturer Rudolf Steiner wrote in his book ‘The Origin of Suffering, “Remember how in some tragedy the tragic hero has stood before your eyes. The poet leads the hero again and again through suffering and conflicts full of suffering until he comes to the point where pain reaches its climax and finds relief in the end of the physical body (death). Then there lives in the soul of the spectator sympathy with the tragic hero and sadness that such sufferings are possible, but it appears that from the sight of suffering man was exalted and built up, that he has seen the suffering submerged in death and that out of death has come the assurance that victory exists over pain. Yes, even over death. So we see here too that a highest element in the consciousness of humanity is linked to suffering. And when we see how these things, small and great, ever again rise to the surface, how they actually form the elemental part of the whole of human nature and consciousness, then it must indeed seem to us as if in some way suffering is connected with the highest in man.” Rudolph Steiner will come up again later.

So, the very highest purpose of life is to ‘suffer’, to endure the misery of being ‘acted upon by agents’ and then and only then, once you have suffered sufficiently, you can die to relieve your suffering. Was it always this way? Since when has our history been shaped and infected by this seemingly diabolical doctrine? Where did this grotesque, twisted idea come from and why are we still living under its curse? Who or what Is this “Beast” that causes all of our suffering and does it even exist? And who are these bloody ‘agents’?

These are the questions I will attempt to address in this series of posts…

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Stairway to Heaven,’ pencil drawing by Felix Noille, 2009.

The Hebrew Bible or Old Testament

The doctrine of suffering is obviously very tightly enmeshed with religion, so that seems like the logical place to start. I would warn any readers with strong religious convictions that this will be a very bumpy ride indeed.

The great-grandaddy of all religions (well, the vast majority) is the Hebrew Bible or Old Testament. However, before looking into this I believe it’s necessary to make some clear distinctions and dispense with a few tired old labels that come loaded with very heavy baggage.

The Hebrew Bible is the basis of the Abrahmic religions – Judaism, Christianity and Islam – which appeared in that order. The earliest takes us firmly into Jewish territory, so what exactly does the term ‘Jewish’ mean? Unfortunately, the question of a Jewish identity is highly controversial, even within the Jewish community and could take up an entire thread on its own.

Jewish Identity

As will be seen from the following sources, the invention of DNA testing has not solved the issue at all, in fact it has complicated it further. In Israel today, Russian Jewish immigrants are being DNA tested in a manner that resembles discrimination.

Why Is Jewishness Matrilineal? - Maternal Descent In Judaism
What does it mean to be genetically Jewish?
Genetic markers cannot determine Jewish descent

There is also the fairly recent theory that the fearsome Khazars were converted ‘en-masse’ to Judaism in the 8th century. They were Turkic people who lived in a large medieval state called Khazaria in Eurasia near the Caucasus Mountains (very close to what was Tartaria and Circassia), who then migrated to Eastern Europe in the 12th and 13th centuries giving rise to the Ashkenaz Jews. The Ashkenazi genes have proved to be even more unspecific than previously thought, although it has been claimed that a ‘Jewish’ genetic marker was identified in their DNA from the Middle East, but it is more likely to be from Iran, not ancient Judea.

Political Agenda

It would appear then that Jewishness has nothing to do with race. You can convert to Judaism and become Judaic wherever you are, but you can’t convert to Iceland and become Icelandic from Patagonia, for example. Identifying a person as being Jewish is really no different to identifying them as being Christian or Muslim. The vast majority of people are born into these religions and never had the chance to consciously choose them before they were indoctrinated throughout childhood, but that has nothing to do with race. It has everything to do with the circumstances of your birth. The concept of racial Judaism is part and parcel of a political agenda – I’m sure Zionism is familiar to all.

The introduction of the racial element into Judaism is an anomaly, a perversion. Herein lies a small clue as to how the Abrahmic religions were all the perfect cover for the rotten core. It’s this rotten core that needs to be exposed for what it is. Therefore the labels of Jew, Christian and Muslim, plus all the associated -isms, -anitys, -aics etc. are meaningless. However, they are impossible to ignore or abandon given the task at hand and when used in a negative sense should be regarded as referring to the inner core within each particular branch rather than the ‘grass-roots’ adherents.


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The Hebrew Bible (Source)

The Redeemer Agenda
Many will be familiar with @Jim Duyer and his contributions to the forum:
"the reason that the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet was without vowels, is because they did not invent it. They merely copied, exactly, the Phoenician alphabet, which was without vowels. The Arabic was the same way - without. I believe personally that it is a case of the scribes, who were often also the religious leaders, making it near impossible for anyone to call bullshit on anything that they said - since they were the ones who could "tell" you what it meant. The same thing is happening today, where Christians use the Old Testament, and yet you can find conflicting answers to the same questions all over the book - use the one that suits your agenda and there you go. Two versions of creation and man's creation, both of which are different, three versions of the Ten Commandments, which differ, and another version with only seven commandments in the New Testament, which also differ. Easy to confuse, and guaranteed to cause religious wars, genocide, and hate for thousands of years to come. And that, in my opinion, was the intention of the book all along - to create uncertainty, hate, fear and dissent among humans."

Jim also claims that most of the Mesopotamian stories of the flood, creation, creation of man, etc., were written during the Amorite occupation of Sumeria. The Amorites translated all these old Sumerian epics into Akkadian and later went on to write the Hebrew Bible. Abraham and his family were Amorites, as were his father, Terah and his brother, Haran, who was named after the Amorite town of Harran in Turkey from whence they originated. Sumerian was already a dead language when the Mesopotamian epics were being translated. Therefore, there was already one layer of interpretation and possible manipulation involved even before those same stories were then later translated again from Akkadian into Hebrew.

Whether you consider this book to literally be ‘the gospel truth’ or not, it’s effect upon mankind’s history has been immense. Even if it’s all fiction and I’ll be honest and admit that I believe most of it is, somewhere within those stories lies the key to exposing the rotten core.

From this one book sprang the three Abrahmic religions; Judaism, Christianity and Islam. All of these religions share the same basic concepts. The Redeemer Agenda has four components:
  • Creation of the world by an absentee father god or patriarch, independent of a female counterpart.
  • The trial and testing (conceived as a historical drama) of the righteous few or "Chosen People."
  • The mission of the creator god's son (the messiah) to save the world.
  • The final apocalyptic judgement delivered by father and son upon humanity.

Orthodox Jews accept all of these points, but don’t recognise Jesus as their Messiah. They are still waiting for one, although as we shall see later, there have been many pretenders. Christians follow the teachings of the apostle Peter who addressed converting Jews as "a chosen race, a royal priest-hood, a holy nation, and God's own people" (l Peter 2:9), thereby transferring the status of "Chosen People" from the Jews to the Christians. Roman Christianity co-opted the Jewish redeemer agenda and transformed it into a universal or "catholic" program of salvation. The different distinctions between Judaism, Christianity and Islam are partly the result of differing views of these four points.

World Domination

By combining the redeemer agenda with the Jewish tradition of "sacred history" Catholic Christianity enforced a salvationist mindset upon the whole human race, indoctrinating specific beliefs that define and dictate the behaviour of all who accept it. This plan - attributed to the off-world Patriarch - required the conquest and conversion of the entire world. It was perpetrated for a thousand years throughout Europe before its victims, having been converted into perpetrators, carried it across the ocean to the New World under the sign of the Cross.

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Joshua and the Israelites Entering the Promised Land

The justification for this comes from God the Father’s grant of a specific territory – ‘The Promised Land’ - to the ‘Chosen People’ plus dominion over the entire earth. This concept of domination over the absentee landlord God’s creation denies the sanctity of nature. The human species is pre-defined as the controller and opponent of nature rather than its guardian and ally.

Inflicting suffering was transformed into a righteous and virtuous act of faithful devotion, whilst for those who did the suffering it became a divine, redemptive calling. This was the master-stroke that drove the violence, genocide and destruction across the world. Not only was this violence sanctioned by the divine being, but he could, at the same time, redeem that suffering and release the perpetrators and their victims from their sins. This enabled the perpetrators to bypass any concept of guilt because they were simply instruments of ‘God’s will’. The undeniable outcome of these circumstances within the human mind was (and still is) a detachment from reality resulting in inhumanity on a massive scale.

Disassociation

Morality, far from being an innate and instinctive tendency to act kindly, out of generosity and with no thought of reward, became totally perverted by the dogma and institutions of religion. The glorification of suffering caused further detachment, either through self-sacrifice, the infliction of suffering on others or the denial of basic, natural human desires within one’s own body. Such behaviour had no moral basis, but was instead contrived in order to avoid what religion defined as ‘sin’ and to secure the favours of the off-world deity and ‘salvation’ in the afterlife. This unnatural situation led to narcissism, whereby consciousness recoils from the experience and becomes an observer or witness (the word martyr means "witness”) filtering out all uncomfortable experiences and sensations. The outward expression of this appears to be one of selfless disassociation, however, beneath the surface lies inner turmoil.

[According to ‘The Betrayal of the Body’ by psychotherapist Alexander Lowen (a follower of Wilhelm Reich and a specialist on narcissism,) the condition can be provoked by an outer submission covering an inner defiance. Outwardly the sufferer displays the appearance of having sacrificed the right to personal fulfilment and satisfaction and that they have surrendered to the denial of pleasure and enjoyment. The inner defiance requires that the balance be restored.]

“The tendency of fanatically religious people to injure themselves and to behave masochistically, etc., confirms what we have said. Clinical experience in sex-economy [sexual repression] shows that the desire to be beaten or to castigate oneself corresponds to the instinctual desire for release without incurring guilt. There is no physical tension that will not evoke fantasies of being beaten or of being tortured as soon as the person concerned feels that he himself is incapable of bringing about the release. Here we have the root of the passive ideology of suffering of all genuine religions.” (Source: ‘The Mass Psychology of Fascism’ , Wilhelm Reich, 1930-33)

At its apex, the condition of the totally disassociated narcissist degenerates to the point where they become the supreme judge of value and reality. The mutation of Western consciousness into full-blown narcissistic detachment from the body and denial of the sensorial world has taken many centuries.

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Sacred Grove (Source)

Angels and other non-human entities

“Ye shall utterly destroy all the places where in the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree. And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their idols with fire; and ye shall hew down the carved images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place." (Deut. 12:2-3)

As we shall see further on, this is quite relevant. The Old World Religion acknowledged and cooperated with what may be called elemental or nature spirits. However, the Judeo-Christian god was obviously a jealous god and would not tolerate the worship of the natural world, even though he had allegedly created it himself.

In spite of our pre-conceived notion, the Bible never describes angels as having wings. When they appear to Abraham in Genesis, 18:2, they are described as "three men" who ate and drank with him. These "angels" were also frequently involved with the propagation of the human race. Abraham's elderly wife, well past childbearing age, is said to have given birth to Isaac after a visit from “three men” (Genesis, Chapter 21). These "men" possess the power of life and death. They are credited with the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, yet they restored Abraham's Sarah to fertility. "Three men" play many many important roles in Biblical events. "Three men" also repeatedly feature in modern UFO events.

We have been told throughout history that ultra-terrestrials, or superior human-like non-humans, have been "assigned" to walk among us. In the Bible, for example, the Hebrew prophet Zechariah states that he was visited by angels and that, "I saw by night, and behold a man riding upon a red horse, and he stood among the myrtle trees that were in the bottom; and behind him there were red horses, speckled and white. Then I said, 0 my Lord, what are these? And the angel that talked with me said unto me, I will shew thee what these be. And the man that stood among the myrtle trees answered and said, These are they whom the Lord hath sent to walk to and fro through the earth. " (Zechariah 1 : 7-1 1)

Further on, Zechariah describes how he saw a cylinder-shaped object in the sky, and the "angel" informed him, '''This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole earth. " (Zechariah V: 1-4) The "angel" continued by describing how the objects literally spy upon every human being.

The New Testament

The Nag Hammadi Codices were discovered in Egypt in 1945 before the bulk of the so-called Dead Sea Scrolls were unearthed later near Qumran. The Nag Hammadi Codices differ substantially from ones found later as they contain what appears to be genuine pre-Christian material. [Whether you consider any of the NHL and DSS material to be genuine is another matter.]

During the first centuries of the Christian era, Hellenistic romances were the pulp fiction of their time, comparable to today’s adult comic books. The stories were “full of miracles, supernatural signs, cameo scenes with stock characters, plus aphorisms drawn from folklore and religious traditions - in short, a pastiche mixing fable and folk wisdom with realistic elements.” (Source: John Lamb Lash, 2006. “Not in His Image.”) Conveniently, the only ones to have survived are the four gospels of The New Testament. Nothing in the Nag Hammadi Codices bears any resemblance to the four gospels of the New Testament. “The word ‘euangelium’ found on some tractates could be translated as positive message, or good news, rather than gospel. Far from being alternative versions of the New Testament, the Egyptian codices contain a preponderance of material that rejects and refutes the salvationist message of the Evangelists - and does so in ruthless and often lacerating terms.” (ibid)

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Jesus (Source)

The Jesus of the Gospels

In ‘Beyond Theology,’ Alan Watts wrote, “We are spiritually paralysed by the fetish of Jesus. Even to atheists he is the supremely good man, the exemplar and moral authority with whom no one may disagree. Whatever our opinions, we must perforce wangle the words of Jesus to agree with them. Poor Jesus! If he had known how great an authority was to be projected upon him, he would never have said a word.”

Many people believe that Jesus is the pre-eminent messenger of love. When the Pharisees asked him "which is the first commandment of all," he replied: “The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord. And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the greatest and first commandment. And the second is this: Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is no other commandment greater than these.” (Mark 12:29-31)

The Old World Belief system would not have understood the concept of being commanded to love. The author D. H. Lawrence wrote a two-line poem entitled "Retort to Jesus."
“Whoever forces himself to love
engenders a murderer in his own breast.”

(Which is a rubbish poem really. It doesn't rhyme.)

Do unto others...

The golden rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." is not entirely original to Jesus. There are slight variations in all cultures worldwide, but it was known to have been the central teaching of the Jewish Rabbi Hillel. When asked "Which is the first commandment of all?" Hillel replied: "Do not do unto others that which is hateful unto thee. That is the essence of the Torah. All the rest is commentary."

Hillel’s statement is perfectly clear and unambiguous. In comparison, Jesus’ switch of syntax from negative to positive and modification from “hateful unto thee” to “do unto you,” brings a different interpretation and introduces an essence of manipulation. ‘If you would have others do something unto you, then do unto them accordingly’. The prime consideration in this version is what one wants from others rather than not abusing others. In ‘The Faith of a Heretic,’ Walter Kaufmann claims that Judeo-Christian morality "does not know the value of a deed done for its own sake," i.e. without expectation of reward or punishment.

Then we have "turn the other cheek" and "resist not evil." If everyone turned the other cheek and then resisted not the evil to hit back, there would be a worldwide Monty Python type sketch of everyone continually taking it in turns to hit each other’s cheek. Apart from being absurd, this is encouragement to suffer.

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Onward Christian Soldiers

Many of the sayings attributed to Jesus in the New Testament reinforce the redemptive value of suffering and the promise of supernatural retribution, such as, "do good to them that hurt you," and "Blessed art thou when you are persecuted for my sake." This allows victims to be abused, tortured and killed to the end of time, confident in the promise of salvation, vindication and a place amongst the saved. Meanwhile, those famous Christian soldiers, marching as to war, can commit all the atrocities they like, safe in the knowledge that they are forcing the world to conform to ‘God's plan’. Both they and the victims believe in the same solution to the problem of evil because evil – persecution, pain and suffering - comes from god, but so does blessing, salvation and justice and vindication as well. Talk about, ‘Do what thou wilt shall be the only law.’ It’s license to murder, torture, rape, lie, manipulate, and control, because whatever the abusers do, they are assured not only of the passive consent of their victims, but also that in abusing them they are saving them – although only the believing victims who embrace the same creed and follow the same plan get saved. So, best get believing quick.

(Cue another Monty Python sketch…
“Pardon me, would you mind if I perform a quick baptism on you before I stab you?”
“No, no, not at all, Will it hurt?”
“Certainly not, just a bit of water on the forehead and Bob’s your uncle!”)​

Although he was referring to the UFO phenomena, Jacques Vallée observed that, "The way to a man's belief is through confusion and absurdity." (The field of UFO research is not unrelated, as will be demonstrated in Part 2.) All are lost even before they start, because, "All have sinned and come short of the glory of God." We are all so hopeless that we can never win – we were never meant to win. The master plan of the internal rotten core was designed so that the Jewish people would fail and the Christians would suffer and inflict suffering ad infinitum.


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The Old World Belief System

Exactly when the transition occurred from the Old World belief system to Judeo-Christian ideology is difficult to pinpoint. To speak of dates is pointless as they are mostly meaningless thanks to manipulation and obfuscation. It would be fair to assume that, as far as Europe is concerned, it coincided with the introduction of Roman Catholicism – whenever that was.

The nature of the Old World belief system is also quite difficult to pin down as it was completely and utterly destroyed. What written material there may have been was suppressed a very long time ago and probably there was very little anyway as the tradition was for the oral dissemination of spiritual knowledge and learning through personal experience.

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Modern religionists and historians have been careful to divide the Old World Belief system into different regional or cultural groups and to describe them as either pagan heresies or early Christian sects. The labels we have today include Hibernia, Levantine, Samothrace, Mithraism, Brahmin, Phrygian, Egyptian, Osirian, Orphic, Druidic and Gnostic. However, they were really just different flavours of the same ideals adapted to different environments.

The Nag Hammadi Library

Apart from the writings of early Christians against the ‘heretics,’ valuable sources of information can be found in the Nag Hammadi Library. Prior to their discovery in 1945, scholars had portrayed Gnosticism as being an early Christian heretical sect that was eventually eradicated after the Albigensian Crusade in the 13th century. However, the evidence from the Nag Hammadi Codices tells a very different story.

Creation Myths

The Old World theory of creation is quite different to that found in Genesis. The stories devised to transmit the basic concept differ between the various flavours of The Old World Belief, but most adhere to the same principle – the birth of this realm occurred when primordial Oneness dreamed of Duality. When Oneness awoke, the sensation of the dream became a creative Impetus and brought into being what we experience as our physical bodies and everything these bodies experience with the five senses. The Oneness is present throughout all the phases between solid matter and its pure original form, connecting everything together - as ‘Oneness’ implies. This dream of Duality is a story of contrasts.

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Nag Hammadi Cave (Source)

Natural Instinctive Morality

To the Old World Civilisation, love was not something that one had to be commanded to feel for another, as in the Judeo-Christian dogma. For them it was what linked the spiritual self with the material body and was therefore the key to spiritual balance and harmony between the moral and immortal aspects of humanity. The sensory and material desires of the body were not considered ‘sinful’ and disruptive, but fundamental to the health of the individual and the harmony of society as a whole. This natural morality didn’t require strict rules or commandments as it was based upon instinct and the innate connection between nature and each other that the Old World Civilisation enjoyed.

With the rise of Christianity and increased concern for the narcissistic, self-regarding ego, the conditions for this self-regulating, natural system of morality were corrupted and lost. At the same time the Old World was confronted with many other incompatibilities to their worldview, such as social equality and the redemptive value of suffering.

Heimarmene

The social equality aspect may be quite hard to take in for the modern reader. The Old World Belief concerning social status centred upon the concept of ‘Heimarmene’ or the "dominion of Fate." It may be compared to an individual’s karmic circumstances. Free will or freedom from the unconscious compunction of karmic conditioning and the play of external ‘spiritual’ forces, or Fate, was not ‘god-given’. It was something that had to be realised, activated and only then used. Without liberation from the dominion of Fate, we become slaves to it through our self-identification with name and form and personal history. This is the state of the majority of humankind. The way out of Heimarmene was through personal enlightenment. This was achieved under careful supervision by shaman-type teachers, known as The Revealers, in the various so-called ‘Mystery Schools.’

One’s place within In the Old World society was determined by this ‘Heimarmene’ principle and defined one’s role in life. Within this system there was an awareness that ‘not all men [or women] are created equal’ and certainly within the Old World society in India there was even a degree of choice. Old World morality was based upon honour and honesty so that even in situations that we today may consider unjust there was no malice or mistreatment involved. Servants and aristocrats could behave with mutual respect for each other knowing that Fate could deal either an unexpected blow at any time.

Caste

Certainly there was and still is, a caste system in India. When the British East India Company colonised India, supposedly on behalf of Queen Victoria, the entire fabric of India’s Old World civilisation was turned upside down. The caste system was perverted and used to divide and rule the population. In South America the Spanish operated a caste system based upon blood. The purer the Spanish blood the higher was the position within society. Personally, I suspect that there was a caste system already in place, just as in India, but it was also corrupted and used as a weapon. There was even a Caste War of Yucatán in 1847.

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The Caste System in the New World (Source)

Even the Jews have a caste system divided between Yisroel, Levi and Kohen. As long as the Jewish Temple is standing in Jerusalem, the Kohen must take care of the offerings and services and live in ritual purity. The Levi are there to assist the Kohen, everyone else is Yisroel. Determination is purely hereditary, there’s no choice involved.

Each different ‘flavour’ of the Old World Belief system would have had a slightly different implementation of the Heimarmene concept (and probably a different name that was easier to pronounce), tailored to geographical and environmental circumstances, as with all other Old World concepts.

Christianity turned the entire system upside down. Fate was not immutable and could be fought against and conquered through a personal alliance with the Divine Redeemer. The Old World tolerance was replaced with intolerance. If you were not of the faith then your only value was the price you would fetch as a slave. Even if you were a converted Christian then suffering as a slave would be good for your soul. The idea that one could break free from the bounds of Heimarmene through personal enlightenment was crushed and replaced by ‘Original Sin’ that condemned everyone forever.

No Doctrine of Suffering

The Old World Belief system had no place within it for the notion of salvation through suffering. To the Old World Civilisation the concept of divine retribution carried out by a father god and his son through an apocalyptic destruction of the world made no sense. The notion that people have to be destroyed in order to save them would have sounded like insanity. There is nothing within Celtic, Iberian, Gallic, Italic or Hellenic mythology that even comes close. The Nordic Ragnarok, "the twilight of the gods," speaks of catastrophe but this totally different from a wilful act of punishment by a male creator god.

Matriarchal Society

The Old World Civilisation regarded the earth itself as a divine feminine goddess. The supreme apocalyptic act of patriarchal violence against the mother goddess of the earth was a traumatic and shocking idea for the rank and file of the Old World system who lived in a harmonious, gender-balanced culture. For this to change so radically, a huge and permanent division had to be created between the social and cultural status of men and women. Christianity’s underlying theme of dominion and patriarchal domination included that of women as well. Under the guise of a religion, a new political system of control, subservience and domination arose.

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Hieros Gamos (Source)

Hieros Gamos

Another anomalous concept for the Old World Civilisation was that of divine kingship or theocracy. To them the ‘hieros gamos’, or sacred marriage’ was a representation of the royal male candidate joining with the Magna Mater, the Great Mother in a ceremony of ‘anointing’. In the Old Testament’s foray into patriarchal theocracy with King David, the priestess had already been eliminated, therefore by the time of the New Testament there was no hope for it. The word ‘anointed’, which was ‘messiah’ in Hebrew, became ‘christos’ in Greek. Saint Paul, a Hellenised Jew from Syria, was the first to definitively assert the divinity of "the Christ" and then in the Council of Nicaea in 325, it was made official. This assertion by Saint Paul of a literal incarnation of god rather than a human representative, was unprecedented in the Old World Belief system and even in Judaism at that time.

The Children of Seth

Obviously, just about all of the scholars working on the Nag Hammadi Codices have been from a Judeo-Christian background and have simply ignored any anti-Christian material. For example, “The Children of Seth” were descended from one of the sons of Adam who only gets passing mention in Genesis 4:25 "And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew." The ‘gnostics’ or spiritual descendants of this Seth considered themselves to be of “another seed”, one that was totally distinct from the Judeo-Christian lineage. In The Second Treatise of the Great Seth (IV,l) a learned ‘gnostic’ teacher protests against "the plan which they devised about me, to release upon the world their Error and their senselessness" (NHL 55.10.)

Protests against Judaism and Christianity

Much of the original material in the codices is dedicated to the rebuttal of the Redeemer Agenda of the Christians. K.W. Troger, the Gnostic scholar, has estimated that one-third of the Coptic Codices is anti-Judaic and when combined with the anti-Christian material, it amounts to well over half of the Nag Hammadi Codices. The Second Treatise of the Great Seth in particular contains page after page of scathing attacks on Judaic and Christian beliefs and customs. It ridicules the biblical forefathers and castigates those who follow patriarchal religion as being unable to see how it corrupts their very sense of humanity.

Persecution and Destruction

The Old World was not prepared or equipped to resist the onslaught of Judeo-Christianity. The Old World Civilisation was forcibly disconnected from nature, themselves and each other. The Second Treatise of the Great Seth gives us an eyewitness account by a ‘Gnostic Revealer’ of the last days of the Old World. ”We were hated and persecuted, not only by those who are simply incapable of understanding us, but also by those who think they are advancing the name of Christos, although they were unknowingly empty, ignorant of who they are, like dumb animais. . . . They persecuted those who have been liberated by me, a Revealer, because they hate those who are free – those hateful ones who, should they shut their mouth, would weep with futile groaning because they do not know who I am. Instead, they served two masters, even a multitude. But they will become victorious in everything, in wars and battles, jealous division and wrath . . . having proclaimed the doctrine of a dead man and lies so as to resemble the freedom and purity of the initiates, our sacred assembly. And so uniting in their doctrine of fear and slavery, mundane needs, and abandoning reverence, being petty and ignorant, they cannot embrace the nobility of truth, for they hate what they are, and love what they are not." (NHL 58-61)

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Nag Hammadi Codex (Source)

As the occultist Rudolph Steiner (yes, him again) said back in 1917, “There existed at this time [pre-Christian] a wisdom about which people often speak today in what could be called a sacrilegious way, though they have scarcely any idea of what it represented. It was something which has now been eliminated from human evolution by certain streams which are opposed to more profound Christian revelation. This was Gnosis, a wisdom into which much of the knowledge revealed to mankind by ancient, atavistic clairvoyance had flowed. Every last fragment of Gnosis, both verbal and written, had been rooted out by western dogmatic Christianity...” (Source:‘The Karma of Untruthfulness’, Rudolph Steiner.)

To be continued in Part 2...

The Nature of the Beast (Part 1) Religion: Old World vs New World
The Nature of the Beast (Part 2) Denizens of the Invisible Realm
The Nature of the Beast (Part 3) Miracles and Apparitions
The Nature of the Beast (Part 4) Rituals, Thought-Forms & The Cult of Zaddik
The Nature of the Beast (Part 5) The Gnostics, Archons & Devas
The Nature of the Beast (Part 6) The Holiness of Sin, Consent Extraction

(Responses to the original thread are preserved here.)
 
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Except that in the Greek original of the New Testament verse of Mark 10:14
the word used in that book is Aphete, which is defined as permit, allow, or leave by,
and not "suffer", which was an emendation by the Catholics and later Anglicans.
They also changed the original idea of "sky, above" into their word heaven,
and several other changes that suited their purposes of control.

Jesus was able to read and write in Greek, as well as Aramaic; those are historical facts in evidence.
If he meant "suffer" he would have given that impression to his followers, and he did not.

I don't see any support for a meaning of suffer as in lack of interference, tolerance (especially of something wrong or illegal, but instead I believe that he used the words "permit, allow" when
speaking to the parents for two important reasons.

One, he did not want to be seen or thought of as ordering an action involving their children. He was not commanding them to bring their children forward, and he wanted that to be clear. Two, he had always recognized the duties and responsibilities of a shepherd for his flock and a parent towards the teaching and spiritual upbringing of their children.
Dozens of examples are found in the text itself which will support my idea.

Concerning turning the other cheek: The Sumerians and even the barbarous Assyrians and Akkadians, all had laws for property and crimes. They generally revolved around monetary punishments for most crimes. The Amorites (later known as Hebrews) entered the scene and their Hammurabi imposed the famous eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth.

Jesus , whatever anyone may believe of him, has never, to my knowledge been labelled as "stupid". They have called him many things, his detractors, but oddly never that. And why? Because he was just the opposite and they knew that.

He realized that most people would not "get" his teachings. He understood that. But as any
good shepherd would do, he did his best. However, he did not wish to hasten his end, and so many
of his teachings are buried in parables and hidden as well. He was not naive enough nor stupid enough to believe that turning the other cheek was a viable and workable solution, given the
state of humankind of his day and even now.


What he was, in fact, attempting to do, was instill the idea that one should not immediately
respond in kind, as the eye for an eye would do, nor should one be the first or second to
deploy their nuclear arsenal - one should take the first blow, try to make friends with the
attacker, and forgive him in you own heart. Because only if we forgive others can we
become a whole person ourselves.

I lived for many years with the notion that I would severely punish anyone who crossed me,
and I took great joy on doing so on many occasions. Mea culpa. But I have, with time,
mellowed to a great extent, and while I still need to work on my anger, I have a bit
more understanding and compassion that I had ever had in the past.

That's what he was hoping to draw out of us - a pause for breath, a contemplation,
a chance and time to think before we react. It did not seem to be understood,
and accepted, by those that have no eyes to see nor ears to hear, but it was the
best plan for the time, mainly due to it being so radical. If he had, instead, taught
Machiavellian maneuvers in which to strike back at those who hit you on the cheek,
would they be remembered today?

And yet most still repeat his turn the other cheek notion, even if they do not understand it fully.

And yes Steiner, of the Theosophical Society, will offer a great many opinions on
various topics, if he doesn't clairvoyantly "see it first".
 
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I don't see any support for a meaning of suffer as in lack of interference, tolerance (especially of something wrong or illegal, but instead I believe that he used the words "permit, allow" when speaking to the parents for two important reasons.
That's not what was stated in the OP:
The noun ‘sufferance’ means,
  • Passive permission resulting from lack of interference. Tolerance, especially of something wrong or illegal.
This was not presented as having any relation to Jesus' remark, but purely a definition of the word 'sufferance, (which he didn't use.)
The paragraph below does deal specifically with Jesus' remark and assigns the same meaning to it as you do.:
In Mark 10:14 and Luke 18:16 of the KJV New Testament, it is written “But Jesus called them unto him, and said, Suffer little children to come unto me, and forbid them not: for of such is the kingdom of God.”
The meaning of ‘suffer’ here is clearly a command to “allow” or “consent to” in the ‘put-up-with-it’ sense.
Furthermore, it's my understanding that he was talking to his disciples, not the children's parents when he spoke those words, but I could be wrong of course.

I'm a little surprised at some of your comments given that you replied to and commented on the original thread, but never mentioned any of this at the time.
 
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The OP has a lot of important information to digest. I like it.
However, I must caution everyone that trying to determine our hidden history by using religious text passages is fraught with dangers.
All religious texts in the West (Probably worldwide) are tainted because they have passed through Vatican, PTB, and Jesuit sensors for the last 1000 years or more. Therefore we must be extra diligent in what we consider. This is not a criticism of Felix's post, but a general observation on all of our research. Woe betide us all if we back up our suppositions by using religious anything. Sorry, but that's how I feel.

Using religious books, texts, scrolls, etc. as a baseline foundation, or even using them at all, is akin to building a house on a shifty sandy foundation. They can be useful for tidbits like The Book of Enoch (The Watchers), "Ezekiel's Wheel" (UFO) and Jesus' resurrection (reincarnation), but the disinformation far outweighs the good parts in my opinion, and yes, I loathe all religions. They can stick it.

Jesus was probably ten different people, or didn't exist at all. (Why isn't there a woman ascended master in any of the texts? Patriarchy is always evident, and I could care less about Mary Magdalene. Dan Brown is a PTB hack and his "Angels and Demons" books were made into Hollywood movies bent on the glorification of false information. Thanks Tom Hanks, you suspected pedophile.) There was a strikingly similar figure as the basis of Mithraism, the most popular religion (Persian) of Ancient Rome, or so we are told. Mr. Mithra, as it were. Thus, using "Jesus quotes" is a fruitless, mindless endeavor. The congealed wisdom is spotty and deceiving, the philosophy designed specifically to keep us chasing our tails and arguing for countless millennium.

How can we SH folks truly attempt to construct a half-decent version of our real history when we continually drown ourselves in the murky peat bog of religion and religious history? To me, a self-described "Biblical Scholar" equates to MORON. Performing the same tasks over and over again and expecting a different result is one of the definitions of insanity.
Call me daffy if you like, but I'd pick any psychic channeler or UFO author delving out ET wisdom, science, and information over any religious source. ANY. They make far more sense when you piece all the inconvenient historical dots together, even if some of those folks are dilettante charlatans. I'm of the opinion that ET interaction, both positive and negative, is the basis for our entire hidden history. Sue me.


Comparison is a good thing, and the OP does it well.
The Gnostic texts are decent, as is Theosophical, Sufi, and Dervish mystery school wisdom. They can give us a glimpse into the old world pagan belief systems, but more importantly a taste of our true history and spirituality. The Ancient Order of Druids in England and that village of people who practice the ancient ways are also good resources. I cannot find the name of that village though. I think its fairly obvious these ancient folks were practicing The Law of One, or some flavor of it.

According to Steiner, the Persian concept of "Ahriman" (The darkness, all the devils) was integral to the "8th sphere of reality," a false reality based on our consciousnesses being manipulated by the dark ones. We literally create that reality for them since these demiurge devils lack sufficient consciousness powers to do it themselves. A sort of Vampirism on the auric field is the mass result. Why? Because its said that we Earth humans came from 11th density to fall back into the concept of time in 3rd density to experience, learn hard lessons all over again, and help raise Mother Earth's vibration, and all in accordance with Universal Law and cosmic evolution.

I'm assured most of us on this forum can guess who those negative, service-to-self off world ET influences are.
Lets cut to the chase and call it like it is.

I look forward to the multi-part continuance of this post. Its great.
 
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I lived for many years with the notion that I would severely punish anyone who crossed me,
and I took great joy on doing so on many occasions. Mea culpa. But I have, with time,
mellowed to a great extent, and while I still need to work on my anger, I have a bit
more understanding and compassion that I had ever had in the past.
I can relate to that fully. We people are somehow connected, there is more and more to know not sure if it is all to understand or even uncover. Blessings.
 

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Whilst researching a different topic I came across some information that might be relevant to the OP. It comes from a book entitled, "The Interpreter's Dictionary of the Bible : an illustrated encyclopedia." by George Arthur Buttrick, published in 1962.

”A study of 150 Greek [manuscripts] of the Gospel of Luke has revealed more than 30,000 different readings… It is safe to say that there is not one sentence in the New Testament in which the [manuscript] is wholly uniform.”
Also, Bart D. Ehrman, the American New Testament scholar who has published 30 books on the subject states that:

“There were a lot of people in the ancient world who thought that lying could serve a greater good,” Source: “Forged,” Bart D. Ehrman.

He also claims that:
  • At least 11 of the 27 New Testament books are forgeries.
  • The New Testament books attributed to Jesus’ disciples could not have been written by them because they were illiterate.
  • Many of the New Testament’s forgeries were manufactured by early Christian leaders trying to settle theological feuds.

“According to Acts 4:13, both Peter and his companion John, also a fisherman, were agrammatoi, a Greek word that literally means ‘unlettered,’ that is, ‘illiterate,’ ’’

Ehrman reserves most of his scrutiny for the writings of Paul, which make up the bulk of the New Testament. He says that only about half of the New Testament letters attributed to Paul - 7 of 13 - were actually written by him. Paul's remaining books are forgeries, according to Ehrman. His proof is presented as inconsistencies in the language, choice of words and blatant contradiction in doctrine. For example, the book of Ephesians doesn’t conform to Paul’s distinctive Greek writing style. He says Paul wrote in short, pointed sentences while Ephesians is full of long Greek sentences (the opening sentence of thanksgiving in Ephesians unfurls a sentence that winds through 12 verses,).

“There’s nothing wrong with extremely long sentences in Greek; it just isn’t the way Paul wrote. It’s like Mark Twain and William Faulkner; they both wrote correctly, but you would never mistake the one for the other,”. (ibid.)

The scholar also points to a famous passage in 1 Corinthians in which Paul is recorded as saying that women should be “silent” in churches and that “if they wish to learn anything, let them ask their own husbands at home.” However, only three chapters earlier, in the same book, Paul is urging women who pray and prophesy in church to cover their heads with veils,

“If they were allowed to speak in chapter 11, how could they be told not to speak in chapter 14?”
The New Testament wasn’t written by the finger of God, he claims – it has human 'fingerprints' all over its pages.

“I’m not saying people should throw it out or it’s not theologically fruitful. I’m saying that by realizing it contains so many forgeries, it shows that it’s a very human book, down to the fact that some authors lied about who they were.” Source: "Forged," Bart D. Ehrman​
 

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This is why I have refrained from getting too involved in SH2.0.

A broken compass will lead you on a path that looks correct.

The problem is, when you knowingly use a faulty compass, and ask others to follow you... you can't blame the compass.
I am not referring to the object of this discussion, but the manner in which it is done.
 

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This is why I have refrained from getting too involved in SH2.0.

A broken compass will lead you on a path that looks correct.

The problem is, when you knowingly use a faulty compass, and ask others to follow you... you can't blame the compass.
I am not referring to the object of this discussion, but the manner in which it is done.
Can you explain that better?
The many facets of the historical diamond we are trying to cut out of raw data may be flawed, but we are all trying our best.
What manner of discussion would you choose?
I smashed my own PTB-issued compass at age 11 in religious school. We are all a bit tweaked, as it were. It's the nature of the beast.
When I was a racing driver, the fastest car was always the "widow maker," the fearful one that was slightly unstable and twitchy at the limit. These cars when handled by the right driver were capable of very hot laps.
All of us members here I consider to be risk-taking "widow makers."
 

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The bible is the word of God

…14But thanks be to God, who always leads us triumphantly as captives in Christ and through us spreads everywhere the fragrance of the knowledge of Him. 15For we are to God the sweet aroma of Christ among those who are being saved and those who are perishing. 16To the one, we are an odor of death and demise; to the other, a fragrance that brings life. And who is qualified for such a task?…

there are ancient documents and there are ancient documents some of them are history some are fantasy some coded and tuned to the reader the supernatural part of the bible is it is the word of God but its goobley gook to those who don't have a relationship with him.and that is the spooky part,,, to some it has and endless supply of wisdom and power to others it scares them and they cant see whats in it.. hence the endless river of the blood of martyrs. and the ongoing saga of Babylonian/Chaldean/Jacobite/Catholic/ persecution of of anyone who has the mark of understanding the weird seemingly incoherent"bible" the one book on earth that must be discounted.marginalized.ridiculed ,subverted, mocked,burnt if necessary etc.. as to suffering ...well ...
 

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I'm placing this inside it's own reply, since I don't wish to take anything away from
what Felix has informed us of. His research is always of the highest level.

Most of the statements that he has provided can be considered as containing the truth, or at least a partial truth. But of course, that's where the problems start to arise, in that sweet spot between the whole truth and falsehood.

Notice I don't use the word "fiction" here. Fiction consists of people, events, or places that are imaginary—in other words, not based strictly on history or fact. And the comments above are in fact not fiction. Falsehood, on the other hand, represents a state of being untrue; it's synonyms include invention, fabrication, fibbing and lying. And thus it is connected to an intentional act of dishonesty crafted to dissuade or confound the average reader. And that's what we see here. Not on the part of Felix, of course, but on his sources.

There's a word whose actions are most often employed by the scientists and governmental leaders, and especially by NASA; and that word is disingenuous.

Merriam-Webster defines it as: not candid or sincere, typically by pretending that one knows less about something than one really does. And they give as an example of its usage: "he was being somewhat disingenuous as well as cynical". But here I believe Merriam Webster is also being a bit disingenuous. They do know that it goes much deeper than that.

Here's a better example that I found: "It's had nine murders since 1937—about the same as you would get in many small towns." This was correct, but a wee disingenuous. The Appalachian Trail had no murders in its first thirty-six years and nine in the past twenty-two. — Bill Bryson, A Walk in the Woods, 1999 So, while true, it is not what we think of when we hope for the truth.

My definition is a bit better, in my humble opinion: "The action of being disingenuous is when a person does not tell us 'the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth'. Because absent all of those elements, we have not yet approached what the word 'truth' means in our hearts."

When Buttrick told us that "A study of 150 Greek [manuscripts] of the Gospel of Luke has revealed more than 30,000 different readings… It is safe to say that there is not one sentence in the New Testament in which the [manuscript] is wholly uniform." which part of his statement was disingenuous? Yes, the part where he fails to mention that scholars, and commentators, of which HE HIMSELF formed a part, are the same humans that gave us these many different readings, translations and interpretations (and amendments as well) of the Biblical texts. In his many visits with various congregations, since he was associated with a great many versions of Protestantism, I'm quite sure that he added his own part to the "clutter" that arrives when you have so many human monkeys working the keys on God's typewriter. (I have to remember that one).

An interesting factoid about Buttrick is: "In 1936, Buttrick officiated the marriage of Fred and Mary Anne MacLeod Trump, the parents of Donald Trump, the 45th president of the United States."

Bart Denton Ehrman is an American New Testament scholar focusing on textual criticism of the New Testament, the historical Jesus, the origins and development of early Christianity. He has written and edited 30 books, including three college textbooks. He has also authored six New York Times bestsellers. Or, as Felix likes to comment, perhaps his ideas were only founded upon his idea of "selling books", since he has done so well for himself since he turned Atheist.

When Ehrman tells us that : " There were a lot of people in the ancient world who thought that lying could serve a greater good,” Source: “Forged,” Bart D. Ehrman.", is he telling us anything that we do not already know? Because I would amend his quote to say "There were a lot of liars in the ancient world, who thought they should help support their personal biblical translations, just as there are a lot of shills who actually do not believe in God or Jesus but rake in millions in telling us about them". Wouldn't that be just as true, if not more so?

I've read a few of Mr. Ehrman's books. He's an intelligent man. My only comment would be that in many cases he tends to press his beliefs such that the is able to arrive at conclusion D, without touching anything else except A. He doesn't give us the B, C, nor mention those possibilities when it comes time to publish. In Misquoting Jesus Ehrman tells how he was a born-again, fundamentalist Christian as a teenager He recounts being certain in his youthful enthusiasm that God had inspired the wording of the Bible and protected its texts from all error. He remained a liberal Christian for 15 years, but later became an agnostic atheist after struggling with the philosophical problems of evil and suffering. That sounds like a very special person. Allow me to express it in a different way, if I may. He was a Christian until indoctrinated by his Jewish mentors at Princeton, or rather, he was a Christian while it served him to be one, and an Atheist when the money rolled in from assuming that role.

Which parts of his statements are disingenuous? Well, a great many, but here's one that stands out like a Hooker on Easter Sunday: "The New Testament books attributed to Jesus’ disciples could not have been written by them because they were illiterate." And why is that less than the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Because, as a PhD and Scholar, translator of multiple languages, schooled in biblical texts and especially in the New Testament works, he KNOWS that most of the people of that time period were illiterate. He further KNOWS that the custom, an accepted and documented custom, historically, I might add, was to collect and sell your fish, and then PAY for a scribe to record your words.

And suppose that one day, you (an Apostle or Disciple) found Shlomo the Scribe and he did one part of it for you. Next week when you returned, Shlomo had the Covid, and was not working that day, and so the Gregarious Greek was the only scribe available, FOR THE SMALL SUMS OF MONEY THAT YOU HAD. Would not that recorded text vary in tone, sentence structure, punctuation, spelling, grammar, and perhaps even in the quality of the paper it was recorded on? And would cheap scribes give us absolutely perfect writings, or would unaffordable ones have been better? And would not our "learned" people like Ehrman then be able to make money by telling us that "these were Forged! Fake I Say! The writing is not even the same!", when they publish their popular books? How can he sleep at night knowing that he is lying his teeth off? Here's my personal comment to Ehrman and any other of his kind who make those stupid, yes either stupid or maliscious, statements: If you do not have a good grasp of the culture of the people of the time period that you are writing about, please keep your ideas to yourself. We don't need more disinformation, if you please.

And finally, I will close with a statement that I believe sums up what the truth of the matter is. No matter how much the texts get changed by ignorant or greedy scholars or writers, the truth of the matter is very simple: Jesus knows his sheep, and his sheep know Jesus. We can tell the fake from the real just by how it resonates within us. I personally believe that most of the Old Testament is jibberish invented by the Jews to puff themselves up. And it should be taken with a double dose of salt, if taken at all. But Jesus gave us his ideas in the New Testament in order to solve that problem, in order to bring the truth to light over the darkness of the jealous and vengeful god of the Hebrew Bible. And that is also the task that a Christian assumes, when he chooses to become a believer. Or not, as the case may be.


John 10:27-28 King James Version
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me.

And to be perfectly balanced in this comment, and afford an answer to those Atheists who wish to make a true change in the belief systems of others, the most intelligent response for that comes from the author Dinesh D'Sousa. He wrote this in conjunction with the topic of ridding the world and especially the United States of Socialism, but it applies equally well here, in my opinion.

He tells us that Socialism (or religion if you are an Atheist) is a fantasy.
You can not do away with socialism, or expose the socialist utopia, by showing that it is a fantasy or by proving that the evidence that they rely upon is faulty. You must instead "expose it as a racket".

That would seem to be good advise for Atheists as well - don't try to make believers into non-believers by showing them the errors in the Biblical texts. Do it by exposing some factions of it for the racket that it represents. Publish evidence of the mountains of money gained by certain of the lesser lights of religion, or of the power amassed, and prove that this was the reason for their being, and not some love of Christ. Just my suggestion.
Enjoy your day indoors.
 
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I'm amazed really. In its first appearance under the 'Doctrine of Suffering,' this thread never received this much of a reaction - although some of the above commentators did also reply there as well.

And its just the first part...

Just so we're clear going forward - I am not an atheist and I must apologise for the fact that I don't have the time to do a psychological profile on all the personalities behind the sources I quote. I am also presenting information, not preaching and therefore people are perfectly free to form their own opinions and conclusions.
 
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To paraphrase Nietzsche, Christianity is the religion of slaves. It teaches them to accept and embrace their degradation.
 

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The worst thing that could be done in a space like this is to preach or try to convince someone through preaching, at this point it is difficult to be an orthodox believer and accept everything by faith, everything that surrounds us is covered by a great blanket of lies and mystery
 

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Regarding the Jews tracking their lineage through the mother's line, I would submit that this is not how the biblical Israelites tracked their heritage. Though I haven't come across a reasonable explanation for this seeming contradiction, I have a few possibilities to offer. The first and most obvious: the Jews as we know them today are not the Israelites of the book. I suspect at some point in undocumented history, the Israelites, if they existed at all, were infiltrated by our hook nosed friends in the usual way they do, marrying into the bloodlines and working their way up the hierarchy. When they were discovered with their hands in the cookie jar one too many times, they were banished and exiled. Since their characteristic as a group, race, or cultural enclave is to never give up in seeking to devour a potential host, they came up with the idea of usurping the identity of this race of the Israelites' descendants by once again marrying into the race, disposing of their native family names and adopting the father's name, while tracking their actual lineage through the mother's line, thus providing a sort of clandestine family tree that only those "in the family" would be able to decipher while disposing of any actual history linking the true Israelites with their heritage. Perhaps that is the true nature of all resets, to divorce the target host from their history and heritage by erasing all traces of their identity, while at the same time stealing that identity for themselves.

They are the only "religion" that qualifies membership based on the idea that your mother must be of that "faith" (Jewishness) in order for you to be considered truly belonging to that group (Jews).

Conversion, however, is another story altogether. I would guess that they get a big kick out of someone who chooses to convert to Judaism, since the joke is on the wannabe convert. It is my understanding that the religion of Judaism is merely cover for the fact that they are a particular family bloodline (race or sub-race) that meticulously track their heritage through carefully crafted family trees, using the matrilineal line as the identifying track marker. Identifying themselves as a religion was just a convenient and deviously clever way of infiltrating Christianity and other religious groups by outwardly shedding their religion (Judaism) when confronted and then "converting" to Christianity or to another religion to infiltrate the group in order to utilize subversion tactics to eventually take them over.

The religion of Judaism is a complex and sophisticated ruse designed to fool their designated target(s), since traditional religions are viewed as coded systems of moral practice. The religion of Judaism is actually the applied science of inversion, that is, the study and practice of the inversion/conversion of any and every belief system into its polar opposite. By taking control of the thesis and the anti-thesis, synthesis is achieved, otherwise known as the Hegelian dialectic of problem-reaction-solution. This is what Crowley referred to in his Book of Thoth with his 0=2 equation, that is 0=+1-1. The zero is the achievement of controlling the narrative of both sides, democrat (-1) vs republican (+1), pro war(+1) vs anti war (-1), pro life (+1) vs pro choice (-1), etc.

This is the basic dialectic with which they work and are able to gain control over all organized gatherings. Knowledge and awareness of this basic but very effective control tactic is the only way out of the convoluted maze they have entrapped us in. I suspect that they have painted themselves into a corner, since, in order to control us that are in the process of awakening, they must supply us with some comprehensive level of their tactics (+1), while counterbalancing that with both disinformation and the power of the mainstream/alternative medias (-1) to marginalize any progress we might gain in gathering as groups in order to discuss, compare notes, and formulate counter measures to sabotage their progress (=0).

Their track and tracing programs have proven ineffective, so their only recourse is to ban all gatherings (the covid psyop), while creating new rules/laws to get a better handle on us pesky truth seekers.

Studying the threads here at sh seems to confirm my working hypothesis, though in ways that are continually blowing my mind. Looking forward to the unfolding of the rest of this series!
 

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This is why I have refrained from getting too involved in SH2.0.
This sentence has no meaning without defining 'This'.

So when you DO get involved in SH2, it is to make a post like this one, which in my interpretation is - I don't like this forum as much as SH1 because of the manner in which its being 'conducted' - without defining anything, did you think about how it will be interpreted?

broken compass
Similarly, now we have a 'broken compass' relating to 'this'. Where is the connection?
As Jim said earlier regarding a certain author. Going from A to D skipping B and C.

I am not referring to the object of this discussion, but the manner in which it is done.
I was hoping the last sentence would clear up the confusion but instead it led from D to Z skipping the rest of the alphabet with the type of 'manner' being undefined.

One of the main reasons I enjoy this forum (SHx) is because even though people may not agree on a subject, they present their views (many times with references) in a such ways that the rest of us can get a 'feel' and understanding for their position. This has not changed as far as I have seen to date.

Felix did great and diligent research to bring this to us, some who don't agree with all his points respectfully presented their counter-arguments and I still fail to see where this is in any way inferior to how this was achieved in the SH1 forum, especially given that almost all the posts are by former SH1 members.

This is why I have refrained from getting too involved in SH2.0.

A broken compass will lead you on a path that looks correct.

The problem is, when you knowingly use a faulty compass, and ask others to follow you... you can't blame the compass.
I am not referring to the object of this discussion, but the manner in which it is done.
Can you explain that better?
The many facets of the historical diamond we are trying to cut out of raw data may be flawed, but we are all trying our best.
What manner of discussion would you choose?
I smashed my own PTB-issued compass at age 11 in religious school. We are all a bit tweaked, as it were. It's the nature of the beast.
When I was a racing driver, the fastest car was always the "widow maker," the fearful one that was slightly unstable and twitchy at the limit. These cars when handled by the right driver were capable of very hot laps.
All of us members here I consider to be risk-taking "widow makers."
I am also curious what your answers and suggestions might be to JWW's post.

My reason for replying to your comment is simply to discourage this type of post. I obviously don't say this as an admin, just a member who doesn't like to see posts with no forethought, clarification or constructive element.

So, be nice :cool: .
 
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