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Username: mythstifieD
Date: 2018-07-20 22:37:05
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Wait, what? Are you seriously telling me that Moctezuma II has a crown with the double headed black eagle?! And that city looks like it was built by none other than the Venetians (aka Phoenicians). I need to dig on this place more as it sticks out like a sore thumb.

Personally, my first reaction to seeing such a beautiful place would be to utterly destroy it as well. It's just the typical thing we do when we're exploring a New World. Why preserve or understand anything? We're just hear to melt down the gold and raise some hell.


You build a city like this for extreme protection. Was there a lot of violent competitive tribes around?
Nothing weird about that!
 

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Date: 2018-07-20 23:07:08
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@mythstifieD it does look very Venice like with all the water ways in the city and reddish type roofing.
 

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Date: 2018-07-20 23:21:07
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This is on a Venice wall. Also, Venice had its hay day in the 16th century. Coincidence?

And did they build those HUGE pyramids on a swampy island? That doesn't make sense. Conveniently the Spaniards drained the whole thing. What the heck!
 

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Date: 2018-07-20 23:28:06
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You are looking for Venetians aka Phoenicians... may be it would make sense to look for a global empire spread out throughout the entire world. This could be why these doubleheaded eagles are all over the place.
 

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Date: 2018-07-21 17:25:28
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that town is definitely european, also double headed eagle again!
 

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Date: 2018-07-29 14:58:15
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Yes, that pesky Tartary double head eagle again. Another neo classical Tartary city in the new world.

Spaniards came and killed them all for being pagan, and then felt really bad.
So they built a "roman aqueduct" for the handful of survivors.
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Then the most pious missionaries built a pagan shrine to Neptune.


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Date: 2018-07-29 16:20:49
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Yup, that aqueduct story is something to investigate. Rebuilt three times. Funny how only a little portion survived.

Really makes you wonder what that entire city originally looked like.
 

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Date: 2018-07-31 22:36:19
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Here's who built it according to Wiki:

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Francisco Eduardo Tresguerras (October 13, 1759, Celaya, Guanajuato – August 3, 1833, Celaya) was a prominent Mexican architect and a painter. He was active during the colonial period and early independence.

Believing he had a religious vocation, he entered a monastery in Mexico City, but soon changed his mind and returned to Celaya and was married. He began working as an artist — painting, sculpture and engraving. He soon requested permission to work as an architect. His first architectural works were the Fountain of Neptune (1797) and an arch commemorating the proclamation of Charles IV as king. Both of these are in Querétaro.

Says he wasn't a colonist/missionary, but born in Mexico. However, he did dedicate an arch to the king of Spain. Was he from Mexico, or was he kin to earlier colonists?

What's curious, he was supposedly religious enough to enter a monastery... But left. Maybe he was rebelling by making a giant pagan fountain? "That'll stick it to 'em!"
 

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Date: 2018-08-01 01:03:11
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Wonder who commissioned that work of art (fountain)? Someone had to pay for it-doubt he worked for free. Usually the Catholic church were the ones commissioning works of art (or rich nobles). They were the only ones who could afford such luxuries.

Masonic explanation of the 2 headed eagle: THE DOUBLE-HEADED EAGLE AND WHENCE IT CAME
 

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Date: 2018-08-07 05:23:15
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Wow, mythstifiedD, a population of 15 million in the early 1500's.
 

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The 2016 population of Mexico City, based on government figures, is 8,918,653.

Half the carrying capacity.
 

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Date: 2018-08-07 15:23:36
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I totally missed that detail! Amazing. How does such a large place get forgotten? I'm adding it to my 'evidence' pile of a massive coverup of the New World during the Age of Exploration. I even had this funny thought the other day that perhaps the Spanish had to go to the new world to intervene in a war going on there, they had to protect their assets and accidentally revealed that the new world existed. They rushed to officially "discover" it with Columbus, but he only found the Caribbean at first. John Cabot comes along and says "Hey guys, there's a whole F**king CONTINENT here" and subsequently England is told to shut the f**k up, and the Pope lays the smack down (which eventually leads to the schism).
 
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