SH Archive What caused the global cataclysm? Part one.

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We know there was some type of cataclysm in the past but what was it, what did it look like and how did it happen?

We have hundreds of examples of sunken cities so this cataclysm involved a whole lot of water. We can also deduce from the restoration of ancient sites by the "before people" that there was an initial major cataclysm. Melted fortresses and scorched temples are an obvious indicator of earth wide decimation.

Some time after this first cataclysm there was a second "mud-flood" which has been more subtle to detect, only recently recognized. We are now beginning to better understand this second cataclysm in its entirety.

The Timeline as I see it.​

Loosely speaking the timeline looks something like this I would imagine:

The before time
Megalithic structures
Age of Giants, purest form of human culture
Inexplicable building techniques

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1st major cataclysm
Megalithic culture wrecked
Peoples of the world sent into disarray

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Age of recovery
Scattered survivors begin re-establish themselves
Probably some giants still alive but no longer the dominant culture
Re-birth of architecture and technology ie. World wide neo-classical buildings etc.

⇩ ⇩ ⇩

2nd minor cataclysm
Mud flood
Pagan culture wrecked.
Peoples of the world, again sent into disarray. International communication lost.

⇩ ⇩ ⇩

Current age (Age of suppression)
An intentional obscurification of history
Introduction of new religions.
Removal of remaining technology from Age of recovery
Mechanisms of control put in place
Dedicated genocide of the population and demolition of historical artifacts (Buildings, documents, family histories.)

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Cause of the cataclysm
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What exactly were these cataclysms?
What we know:

It was big. (world ending scale.)
It was wet. (mud flood)
It was explosive. (Destroyed cities and ancient sites.)
It was prolonged. (Evidence of underground cities and shelters.)

Many people throw different theories around. Some think it was an ancient nuclear world war. Perhaps it was an attack by space aliens? Maybe an asteroid shot from the deep recesses of our galaxy colliding with the earth.

I don't necessarily disagree with assumptions like these. There is certainly evidence to support them, however the simplest answer is usually the more likely one. I like the idea of space aliens but I'd be intellectually dishonest if I said this was in fact what did happen.

Me right now...
To be honest, me all of the time.
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What do the ancients themselves have to say about the cause of the cataclysm?

The 1950's book Worlds in Collision is a book written by Immanuel Velikovsky where by he attempts to answer that question with the use of ancient source materials. Myths and legends from the people who witnessed it. Straight from the horses mouth so to speak.

His great line was "We are a species with amnesia." A quote he stole from an earlier author whose name escapes me and most recently used by everyone's favorite cannabis fueled mysteries author, Graham "An author with amnesia" Hancock. Seriously he says he wrote all his best stuff while smoking a pound of weed a week for 15 years. Nice guy.

Worlds in Collision is a synthesis of ideas shared by many academics that had been skirting around the edges of the acceptable mainstream for a while. Despite the vice like death grip Egyptology has on these things, many scholars doubted these nonsense stories and suggested a more dramatic scenario.

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The birth of Venus
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Okay, now for the sake of brevity I'll be giving you only the cliff notes. If you like what you read here then you can download a PDF of Worlds in collision here. Honestly I never recommend books to people, everyone's busy I get it. BUT. If there is one book you should read to better fill-out your ancient mysteries know how, then its this book. Graham "six bongs a day" Hancock has read it. The fellas over at Electric Universe have based their entire careers on it, and me, the not especially special but sincere contributor to this site swears by it. Read it. Take what you need and leave the rest. Its not perfect but it hits on some really solid ideas.

And I do apologize to all the Flat earthers reading this, it is a globe-head theory. Please note that I personally have refrained from using the term globe at any point up until now as I prefer 'World wide'. As well as to the flat-heads I apologize to all the hex-heads, multi-verse plain-heads, digital computer simulation-heads and any other '-heads' I failed to mention. If I had to choose a side however I would go with planets are real (whatever they are) and that they interact with us who exist on some kind of flat plain (whatever that is.)

Alright. Are we good? I don't want anyone flipping their lids in the comments complaining about planets being fake. I GET IT. Believe me I get it. Don't worry. I've got pictures, its gonna be painless, I promise. All the quotes provided are from the book. Okay lets dive right in...

Venus is "born" out of Jupiter at some vague time in the past.​

In this version of reality planets are real. But some of the planets can make baby planets
...so its still weird enough to get behind.​

"...asserting that the planet Venus was born in the first half of the second millennium, I assume also that in the third millennium only... ... four planets could have been seen, and that in astronomical charts of this early period the planet Venus cannot be found. In an ancient Hindu table of planets, attributed to the year —3102, Venus alone among the visible planets is absent.1 The Brahmans of the early period did not know the five-planet system,2 and only in a later ("middle") period did the Brahmans speak of five planets. Babylonian astronomy, too, had a four-planet system. In ancient prayers the planets Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, and Mercury are invoked; the planet Venus is missing; and one speaks of "the four-planet system of the ancient astronomers of Babylonia." 3 These four-planet systems and the inability of the ancient Hindus and Babylonians to see Venus in the sky, even though it is more conspicuous than the other planets, are puzzling unless Venus was not among the planets."

Venus is initially an incandescent orb travelling violently toward the other planets.

Coming into contact with Venus, Mars is flayed stem to stern by violent electrical discharges.
If there were ever a Mars colony in ancient times, this is when it is was obliterated.​

"These parallels in observations made in the valley of the Ganges, on the shores of the Euphrates, and on the coast of the Mexican Gulf prove their objectivity. The question must then be put, not in the form, What was the illusion of the ancient Toltecs and Mayas? but, What was the phenomenon and what was its cause? A train, large enough to be visible from the earth and giving the impression of smoke and fire, hung from the planet Venus. Venus, with its glowing train, was a very brilliant body; it is therefore not strange that the Chaldeans described it as a "bright torch of heaven," 7 also as a "diamond that illuminates like the sun," and compared its light with the light of the rising sun.8 At present, the light of Venus is less than one millionth of the light of the sun. "A stupendous prodigy in the sky," the Chaldeans called it.9 vThe Hebrews similarly described the planet: "The brilliant light of Venus blazes from one end of the cosmos to the other end."10 The Chinese astronomical text from Soochow refers to the past when "Venus was visible in full daylight and, while moving across the sky, rivaled the sun in brightness." J1 .-As late as the seventh century, Assurbanipal wrote about Venus (Ishtar) "who is clothed with fire and bears aloft a crown of awful splendor."12 The Egyptians under Seti thus described Venus (Sekh-met): "A circling star which scatters its flame in fire ... a flame of fire in her tempest."

Venus is born into the solar system and "battles" with the other planets, Mars god of war in particular.

IN EVERY COUNTRY of the ancient world we can trace cosmo-logical myths of the birth of the planet Venus. If we look for the god or goddess who represents the planet Venus, we must inquire which among the gods or goddesses did not exist from the beginning, but was born into the family. The mythologies of all peoples concern themselves with the birth only of Venus, not with that of Jupiter, Mars, or Saturn. Jupiter is described as heir to Saturn, but his birth is not a mythological subject. Horus of the Egyptians and Vishnu, born of Shiva, of the Hindus, were such newborn deities. Horus battled in the sky with the monster-serpent Seth; so did Vishnu. In Greece the goddess who suddenly appeared in the sky was Pallas Athene. She sprang from the head of Zeus-Jupiter. In another legend she was the daughter of a monster, Pallas-Typhon, who attacked her and whom she battled and killed. The slaying of the monster by a planet-god is the way in which the peoples perceived the convulsion of the pillar of smoke when the earth and the comet Venus disturbed each other in their orbits, and the head of the comet and its tail leaped against each other in violent electrical discharges.

Venus passes by the earth, not once but twice before settling into a stable orbit.​

Two flybys of Venus were recorded by the ancients. 500 earth years apart. That's two cataclysms, count em.
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"And what does natural history tell us?" asked Philo in his On the Eternity of the World,16 and answered: "Destructions of things on earth, destructions not of all at once but of a very large number, are attributed by it to two principal causes, the tremendous onslaughts of fire and water. These two visitations, we are told, descend in turns after very long cycles of years. When the agent is the conflagration, a stream of heaven-sent fire pours out from above and spreads over many places and overruns great regions of the inhabited earth."

Just to make a point about Venus's origins. Venus is the hottest planet in the solar system. Indicating it may be the newest.

Venus is the hottest world in the solar system. Although Venus is not the planet closest to the sun, its dense atmosphere traps heat in a runaway version of the greenhouse effect that warms Earth. As a result, temperatures on Venus reach 870 degrees Fahrenheit (465 degrees Celsius), more than hot enough to melt lead.

-Wikipedia

Venus spins in retro-grade to the other planets, meaning it spins in the opposite direction.

There are real retrograde motions in the solar system. Venus, for example, rotates or spins on its axis in the opposite direction from every other planet. If the clouds ever parted, the Venusians would see the sun rise in the west and set in the east. Some moons also have retrograde orbits around their planets.

-earthsky.org

...Concluded in Part two.

CN Summary:
Like most of the subjects we cover here, worlds in collision is quite dense. This is not meant to be an exhaustive article but rather an introduction to these concepts. In part two we will look at more at the interaction between Venus and the earth.

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