SH Archive Pulaski Riot of 1868, and Cincinnati Riots of 1884: what happened there?

[KD Archive]

I don't even know what category to put this into for right now. I just stumbled onto some photographs of these 1868 Pulaski and 1884 Cincinnati riots, and figured those needed to be shared, for the narrative does not quite match the damages I see in those photographs. What weapons did they use back then? The consequences of this riot remind me of the urban fires e are so used to. The official version states:

• The Pulaski riot was a race riot that occurred in Pulaski, Tennessee, on January 7, 1868. While the riot appeared to be based in a trade dispute of the previous summer between Calvin Lamberth, a white man, and Calvin Carter, an African American, it was provoked when Lamberth shot a friend of Carter's over rumored comments about the former's black mistress.
• After Lamberth shot Carter's friend, Whitlock Fields, numerous other armed whites came from nearby houses and attacked Carter and seven other black men at a nearby black-owned grocery store. Although the constable arranged a ceasefire, after the freedmen gathered at the door of the store, some eighteen whites rushed and shot at them at close range. They murdered one man, mortally wounded another, and injured four. No white was injured or prosecuted. The incident was investigated by the Freedmen's Bureau office of Nashville, Tennessee.
• Pulaski riot - Wikipedia

What Happened There?

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The above photograph was obtained from this antique lot, and was a part of the below photographic album.

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Here are the remaining photographs which allegedly pertain to another riot. This one was supposed to happen in Cincinnati in 1884. The narrative is as follows:

• The Cincinnati riots of 1884, also known as the Cincinnati Courthouse riots, were caused by public outrage over the decision of a jury to return a verdict of manslaughter in what was seen as a clear case of murder. A mob in Cincinnati, Ohio, United States, attempted to find and lynch the perpetrator. In the violence that followed over the next few days, more than 50 people died and the courthouse was destroyed. It was one of the most destructive riots in American history.​
• Cincinnati riots of 1884 - Wikipedia​

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KD: I would love to find an online version of this album. Something feels weird about these riots. The original description provided with the lot is below.

• A group of 8 unmounted photographic prints depicting the 5th Battery of Ohio National Guard and the aftermath of the 1884 Cincinnati Courthouse Riots, plus one likely unrelated cabinet card photograph of a crowd surveying the ruins of a damaged building, with Pulaski TN photography studio backstamp. 1st-8th items: Albumen photograph prints of men in uniform standing guard behind a gatling gun in the streets of Cincinnati, wagons overturned to form a barricade, and images of the destruction inside the courthouse. 9th item: Cabinet card depicting a crowd of people, including African Americans, surveying the remains of burned out brick buildings. Stamped on back The Pulaski Art Gallery, W.D. Corbitt, Operator, Pulaski TN. 5" H x 8 1/2" W. Provenance: the estate of Sarah Hunter Hicks Green, formerly of Historic Devon Farm, Nashville, Tennessee. ​
• Lot 749: Cincinnati Riot of 1884 and Pulaski TN destruction, albumen prints​

Any thoughts on what could cause the damages we can see in the very first photograph?

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[Archive]

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Date: 2019-08-22 10:15:11
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Those posed soldiers are just as likely to be at the storming of the Paris commune as anywhere else. French and United States uniforms of the period are interchangeable.

 

[codis]

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Date: 2019-08-22 12:02:41
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Cabinet card depicting a crowd of people, including African Americans, surveying the remains of burned out brick buildings.

The used term I marked is late PC speak, and clearly shows Winston Smith was at work, at least once. So, one can rest assured it contains misinformation of unknown proportion.
As European, this is the first time I ever heard of this event.

 

[Timeshifter]

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Date: 2019-08-22 18:38:08
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Was a sword standard battle kit for these guys?

 

[codis]

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Username: codis
Date: 2019-08-23 05:59:09
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I remember images from WWI, whith soldiers wielding sabers. If I remember correctly, mostly the higher ranks.
Foot soldiers carried the bajonnett instead.
I heard reports that old-style cavalry attacks (on horses, with pulled saber) were tried in the initial phase of WWI. The machine gun ended them quickly.

 

[Archive]

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Username: Rarity
Date: 2019-08-24 07:26:32
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This may explain some of the damage to the buildings from 1884, the mob allegedly got control of cannons were using them. The Evening critic. [volume] (Washington, D.C.) 1881-1885, March 29, 1884, Image 1

The Stark County Democrat. [volume] (Canton, Ohio) 1833-1912, April 03, 1884, Page 8, Image 8

Perrysburg journal. (Perrysburg, Wood Co., O. [Ohio]) 186?-1965, April 04, 1884, Image 4

The Hocking sentinel. [volume] (Logan, Ohio) 1871-1906, April 03, 1884, Image 2

Was a sword standard battle kit for these guys?
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If those are dismounted cavalry or dismounted artillerymen they should have sabers.

 

[BStankman]

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Date: 2019-08-25 10:13:14
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Do these tracks look usable to you, or mudflooded?

According to Wiki, Horse cart were introduced in 1859, and electric streetcars and cable cars later in 1889.

Cincinnati somehow went from this in 1802, to this in 1850.

So they are trying to tell us this city went from a tiny rural community to a bustling city in 48 years? Yes sure it did.

This time we do have evidence of a mudflood. The great flood of 1884.

http://cincinnativiews.net/floods.htm


No this is something totally different. Maybe they needed to destroy the records in the courthouse to cover up the evidence of the civilization that was already here. Similar to what we see going on in the war of 1812 and civil war. And attacking while they were weakened by the flood.

 

[madroona]

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Date: 2019-09-19 00:34:52
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^^^ it seems like most of recently history is an ongoing series of a long campaign of Library of Alexandria-type fires.