SH Archive Vatican: Sphere Within Sphere

[asatiger1966]

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This is something I meant to ask forever. I believe that we have no idea what this ridiculous statue of a sphere posted front and center at the Vatican is. Well, it is only ridiculous, because we do not really know its meaning. It stands tall as the centerpiece of the Courtyard of the Pinecone at the Vatican Museum. It is made of bronze and appears golden as the sun shines down on it. It is 4 meters (~13 feet) in diameter.

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In addition to the below worthless info, Vatican.COM says that it is also known as "Sfera con Sfera":

• The Sphere within a Sphere is a statue also known as "Sfera con Sfera". It is located in the Vatican Museums. It is part of a series of bronze sculptures on this theme that can be found in prime locations all over the world.
• Arnaldo Pomodoro is an Italian sculptor. He was born in the 23rd of June 1926 in Morciano, Romagna, Italy. Currently he lives in Milan. His brother, Giò Pomodoro was also an Artist.

Wikipedia says even less:

• Sphere Within Sphere is a bronze sculpture by Italian sculptor Arnaldo Pomodoro. Versions of the sculpture (diameters vary) can be seen in many settings worldwide.

It is interesting that our Sphere within Sphere "can be found in prime locations all over the world":

• Vatican Museums, Rome
• Palazzo della Farnesina, Rome
• Piazza della Libertà, Pesaro, Italy
• Headquarters of the UN, New York (no surprise, right?)
• Virginia Museum of Fine Arts, Richmond, Virginia
• The Christian Theological Seminary, Indianapolis
• University of California, Berkeley, California
• Des Moines Art Center, Des Moines, Iowa
• Trinity College in Dublin
• The Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden in Washington D.C.
• The de Young Museum in San Francisco, California
• The Tehran Museum of Contemporary Art, Iran (really?)
• The Columbus Museum of Art in Columbus, Iowa
• The Tel Aviv University in Israel
• Hakone Open-Air Museum, Hakone, Japan

Pretty sure the above list is incomplete, but it gives an idea that this Sphere means something for some people out there.

Arnaldo Pomodoro

May be our creator of the spheres, Mr. Tomato has something revealing in his bio. I did not find anything tremendously special. The gentleman is not young. Mr. Tomato was born in 1926, and is 93 years old. He appears to still be alive but has not been active since 2005. He began his series of spheres in the 60’s with Sphere no. 1, and has continued designing the globe-like pieces, each depicting a different map of destruction.

• Each tremendous ball is fractured, revealing an intricate interior that unveils yet another cracking orb. The design of the internal layers seem to be mimicking the gears of a clock or the inner workings of a grand piano, making it appear very complicated.
• Because of the sculptural installation’s round shape, it also echoes the form of Earth. It isn’t absolutely clear what the artist’s intentions are, but it gives off the impression that it is reflecting the complexity of our world and how easily it can be torn apart.
• Mr. Tomato also has disks, cubes, pyramids and other shapes to be proud of...
• Arnaldo Pomodoro - Wikipedia
• Giant Fractured Sphere at the Vatican

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I was only able to find one photograph where our sphere creator is somewhat on the younger side (49 in 1975). D we have any additional younger ones. As it is, I have only seen an older gentleman in the pictures, and videos. May be search strings in Italian could produce more of the younger looking Mr. Tomato.

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In one interview the artist said of his work:

• A sphere is a marvelous object, from the world of magic and wizards. It reflects everything around it and it can easily get transformed or become invisible, leaving only its interior, tormented and corroded, full of teeth.

Pomodoro made so many of these statues. Do we have a single photograph of him actually working on one?

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KD: If it was not for this "Sphere within Sphere" posted at the Vatican, I doubt we would be talking about this sculpture. But to be where it's at, it had to get authorized by whoever the Pope was at the time (1960s?). I personally think it's ugly, and if our Earth looks anything like that... well, too sad...

• Anyways, what do you think the Vatican Sphere is supposed to be, mean, represent?

KD , a shot in the dark. Noah's Ark?

 

[JimDuyer]

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Date: 2019-11-12 17:30:00
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KD , a shot in the dark. Noah's Ark?

Well, I think you are getting close, but I believe it more likely to represent a pre-flood topic. As in, the Vatican and those in power are flaunting their knowledge in our faces. I believe it represents a split in the development of humanity itself. One group, under Yahweh and with the full support of those that profit from organized religions, and the other the rest of humanity - torn between what we are being told to believe and what our common sense tells us can not be entirely the way it is presented. Thus the fractured inner and outer portions of the spheres, which represent, ultimately, the ovum of human or semi-human I should say, DNA.

 

[Archive]

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Date: 2019-11-12 18:05:48
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Portals.

 

[Archive]

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This is something I meant to ask forever. I believe that we have no idea what this ridiculous statue of a sphere posted front and center at the Vatican is. Well, it is only ridiculous, because we do not really know its meaning. It stands tall as the centerpiece of the Courtyard of the Pinecone at the Vatican Museum. It is made of bronze and appears golden as the sun shines down on it. It is 4 meters (~13 feet) in diameter.

View attachment 33421

In addition to the below worthless info, Vatican.COM says that it is also known as "Sfera con Sfera":

• The Sphere within a Sphere is a statue also known as "Sfera con Sfera". It is located in the Vatican Museums. It is part of a series of bronze sculptures on this theme that can be found in prime locations all over the world.
• Arnaldo Pomodoro is an Italian sculptor. He was born in the 23rd of June 1926 in Morciano, Romagna, Italy. Currently he lives in Milan. His brother, Giò Pomodoro was also an Artist.

Wikipedia says even less:

• Sphere Within Sphere is a bronze sculpture by Italian sculptor Arnaldo Pomodoro. Versions of the sculpture (diameters vary) can be seen in many settings worldwide.

It is interesting that our Sphere within Sphere "can be found in prime locations all over the world":

• Vatican Museums, Rome
• Palazzo della Farnesina, Rome
• Piazza della Libertà, Pesaro, Italy
• Headquarters of the UN, New York (no surprise, right?)
• Virginia Museum of Fine Arts, Richmond, Virginia
• The Christian Theological Seminary, Indianapolis
• University of California, Berkeley, California
• Des Moines Art Center, Des Moines, Iowa
• Trinity College in Dublin
• The Hirshhorn Museum and Sculpture Garden in Washington D.C.
• The de Young Museum in San Francisco, California
• The Tehran Museum of Contemporary Art, Iran (really?)
• The Columbus Museum of Art in Columbus, Iowa
• The Tel Aviv University in Israel
• Hakone Open-Air Museum, Hakone, Japan

Pretty sure the above list is incomplete, but it gives an idea that this Sphere means something for some people out there.

Arnaldo Pomodoro

May be our creator of the spheres, Mr. Tomato has something revealing in his bio. I did not find anything tremendously special. The gentleman is not young. Mr. Tomato was born in 1926, and is 93 years old. He appears to still be alive but has not been active since 2005. He began his series of spheres in the 60’s with Sphere no. 1, and has continued designing the globe-like pieces, each depicting a different map of destruction.

• Each tremendous ball is fractured, revealing an intricate interior that unveils yet another cracking orb. The design of the internal layers seem to be mimicking the gears of a clock or the inner workings of a grand piano, making it appear very complicated.
• Because of the sculptural installation’s round shape, it also echoes the form of Earth. It isn’t absolutely clear what the artist’s intentions are, but it gives off the impression that it is reflecting the complexity of our world and how easily it can be torn apart.
• Mr. Tomato also has disks, cubes, pyramids and other shapes to be proud of...
• Arnaldo Pomodoro - Wikipedia
• Giant Fractured Sphere at the Vatican

View attachment 33423

I was only able to find one photograph where our sphere creator is somewhat on the younger side (49 in 1975). D we have any additional younger ones. As it is, I have only seen an older gentleman in the pictures, and videos. May be search strings in Italian could produce more of the younger looking Mr. Tomato.

View attachment 33424

In one interview the artist said of his work:

• A sphere is a marvelous object, from the world of magic and wizards. It reflects everything around it and it can easily get transformed or become invisible, leaving only its interior, tormented and corroded, full of teeth.

Pomodoro made so many of these statues. Do we have a single photograph of him actually working on one?

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KD: If it was not for this "Sphere within Sphere" posted at the Vatican, I doubt we would be talking about this sculpture. But to be where it's at, it had to get authorized by whoever the Pope was at the time (1960s?). I personally think it's ugly, and if our Earth looks anything like that... well, too sad...

• Anyways, what do you think the Vatican Sphere is supposed to be, mean, represent?

Looks like the earth and the moon collided revealing the inner structure. What could they be trying to tell us here?

 

[JimDuyer]

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Date: 2019-11-13 00:33:46
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Looks like the earth and the moon collided revealing the inner structure. What could they be trying to tell us here?

Or is it the hollow inner earth and hollow, metallic moon?

 

[Archive]

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Username: studytruth
Date: 2019-11-20 08:25:47
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Ok here are a few photos of the sphere from my trip to Rome.
I do have to say that just looking at this thing was creepy...
Side note, it is not stationary, but can be rotated like a spinning top...though it needs someone to go to it and give it a spin to get it started.
All in all one of the weirdest things I have encountered.

 

[Magnus]

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Date: 2019-11-20 12:02:18
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Ezekiel 1:16

The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

 

[Archive]

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Date: 2019-11-20 17:41:14
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What I got out of viewing it for a while...and let me remind you that just seeing it is really really creepy.

My thought was that the sphere inside represents the earth...a machine of control and robot like living (which of course is what this reality is) but the secret that is being presented is that their is a much bigger "earth" that this small one is within, and that too is a giant robot machine of control...perhaps it even suggests infinite layers of machinery...

I am still putting together my thoughts on it. In a few days when I do I will make a new post.

 

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I found this image on another forum with a quote by Lamberto Dini who in 1996 as Minister for Foreign Affairs of Italy presented the sfera con sfera to the UN headquarters. (Unfortunately I have no confirmation for when he stated above words).

"[...] as if a world torn asunder by the horrors of war and suffering could still give birth to another world: a more prosperous and just world, within an international frame of peace and progress for generations to come."

In other words: "Ordo Ab Chao" / "Order out of chaos".

 

[EUAFU]

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It seems that art exists to hide the truth or to code for some. It seems that they think the prior art was very self explanatory and decided to create encrypted messages. Of course, I speak of the "artists" who can fill important places with things like those spheres.

 

[JimDuyer]

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Date: 2019-11-20 22:24:27
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Binary Code form, 8 or 12 bit perhaps?

 

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Date: 2019-11-25 16:30:42
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Well it was made after the rest of the Vatican... So its author could have all sorts of delusional world views that are unrelated to the world views of the true creators of the Vatican. Perhaps underneath he believes we are soulless. To me, he's just a random sculptor who believes his creations are special.

 

[KD Archive]

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Date: 2019-11-25 16:55:28
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The author could be whatever. He was not the one to authorize this sphere to be placed where it’s at.

 

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Date: 2019-11-25 17:00:07
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The author could be whatever. He was not the one to authorize this sphere to be placed where it’s at.

Right. And according to your architectural & historical understanding, the Vatican wasn't built by the Catholics, was it?

 

[KD Archive]

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Right. And according to your architectural & historical understanding, the Vatican wasn't built by the Catholics, was it?

The sphere was placed there in the 20th century. From this perspective it’s irrelevant who was responsible for building Vatican structures.

 

[dreamtime]

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Sphere within a Sphere being discussed here:

 

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It represents that fact that art in the '60's really started to suck. I'm sure there were exceptions, but, well, Jackson Pollock.

My cat left a Jackson Pollock on the living room carpet two days ago. I should've had it framed and sold to a museum.

Sphere within a sphere, as above so below, those who have eyes will see, secret society, underground power pools. Same thing, different day.

Worlds within worlds, stories inside stories, there is always something hidden beneath the surface of what we see. In the case of architecture, which these globes resemble, it is often literally beneath the surface.

 

[Dielectric]

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I found this image on another forum with a quote by Lamberto Dini who in 1996 as Minister for Foreign Affairs of Italy presented the sfera con sfera to the UN headquarters. (Unfortunately I have no confirmation for when he stated above words).

"[...] as if a world torn asunder by the horrors of war and suffering could still give birth to another world: a more prosperous and just world, within an international frame of peace and progress for generations to come."

In other words: "Ordo Ab Chao" / "Order out of chaos".

Guess who creates the chaos? B Of A Fresco's middle panel is Chaos.
The Bank of America Frescos: Confirmation of the Reset?

Ezekiel 1:16

The appearance of the wheels and their work was like unto the colour of a beryl: and they four had one likeness: and their appearance and their work was as it were a wheel in the middle of a wheel.

Was one of my first impressions as well because of the machine like interiors. Plus hundreds of reports of flying basket balls which can be found on the national ufo reporting center. Example.
http://www.nuforc.org/webreports/147/S147794.html

Binary Code form, 8 or 12 bit perhaps?

Have no idea how to read it but I have a keen sense that you're on the scent of the beast. Something implying worlds in collision would have some means to date world changing events. Must be there one way or other.

I don't believe it's a literal worlds in collision but potentially could be. More probably it is either an ecoded message with dates/locations
of meteor bombardment (artificially created) to coincide with what other disasters (artificially created).

If we did have a solar flare that wiped out half the Earth or more, then the very next immediate things hitting us would be meteors because we would lose our natural protective barrier. Also the sphere inside a sphere seems to suggest a similarity to bases underground. All seems to go together. Even the Nuclear Alien hypothesis is somewhat validated.

There is however a disturbing cropcircle depicting precisely what's in the Suspicious Observers video.
I've seen it but now have to see if I can find it again. They scrub those things almost as fast as they are made.

The Reset and the Art of the Denver Airport
Cosmic Disaster; Suspicious Observer: Premiered Aug 14, 2019

It's either they fear a solar flare from our Star or it's symbolic of an expected date where planetary expansion will occur. At which time, and in the aftermath, the new world order will be launched under the Red Banner of "Everyone Works For Mutual Survival." The survivors unawares of the now long forgotten off world civilization already in existence complete with saucers and tetrahedrons and triangles. The New Gods in the heavens with God like powers and seemingly holding all knowledge. They would not be alone though as there is a 2 mile across ubber deep thingy crawling along the bottom of oceans, complete with a cavalcade of supporting bits of information suggesting that alternative 3 is by sea, underground tunnel systems, and in space on the moon and mars at the very least and perhaps outer planetary moons like Europa.

Seems to me this where the missing 21 trillion dollars from US alone has really gone but it is of course a global alternative 3 plan so there's much more wealth that's been diverted in to this project.

If we could dechiper a date out this contraption of art then we could calculate the planetary orbit. May be a complete waste of time but then maybe not. Some will survive no matter what. Dumb luck parked 4 floors underground in a garage and passed out from last nights party. That kind of thing. Would be a really rude hang over to wake up to.

 

[Nani2022]

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Hello all, I came here after watching a movie which reminded me off the spheres in Rome. The movie was the assassins creed one in Spain with the regression machine.


There's a golden ball in there referred to as the Apple of Eden. Golden Apple (Pomo d'Oro -> Apple of Gold). It refers to our DNA, more specifically that which gives us free will. The ball opens up (box of Pandora?) and in the plot they want it in order to be able to control everyone and ban violence (sounds familiar?). Which quickly turns to way worse than that.


Think of the human genome project, crisp cas 9 techniques, along with now mRNA based ...


From the inside out, break the code, rewrite the code. Control from the inside. Combine with graphene nanotech, insert in another layer of matrix. Meta.