SH Archive American Civil War a Photographic History

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sharonr
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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-01-13 16:54:05
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What unit is this?
Reason for asking is because I'm sure I've seen ia similar photo somwhere before and if it's the same tale they are a comminications company ergo chaps wot put in/cut telegraph wires hence the pole jockey's.
 
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Username: OpenMind
Date: 2020-01-13 17:06:11
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I'm not sure, just been looking through civil war photos on line and this one caught my eye, the bloke in the foreground looks impaled on that tree. Now I've read this thread you can't help bit notice, all the battle images are paintings, there are alot of dead people made to look alive. They definitely found it like this, how and when I'm not sure. I keep getting my head telling me these dead people look like they've been gassed or similar to death.

Civil War Photos
This is where I was looking earlier. I don't think they ever envisaged the zoom capabilities we'd have in our age?
 
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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2020-01-13 17:41:29
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I thought gas or noxious fumes as well. Volcanoes erupting, earthquakes opening fissures... The combustible nature of methane...
Only way to wipe out cities and towns while leaving all of the buildings, mostly. But I don't think it was intentional. Just a great opportunity for someone to expand their "holdings".
 
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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-01-13 17:42:48
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Cheer.s Found it. Yes they are the same crew I saw.
18. Constructing telegraph lines, April 1864. Photographed by Timothy H. O'Sullivan. 165-SB-62. National Archives Identifier: 533336

They climbed those poles they were not impaled on them.
Trouble is I find ionce something is obviously out of the ordinary for me it gets all too easy to tar all the images with the same brush.
 
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Username: OpenMind
Date: 2020-01-13 17:49:09
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Too true?
Must have been one hell of a catastrophe
 
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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2020-01-13 18:04:01
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I think PLURAL.
Couldn't get back on their feet. Earth barren and fallow.
Good argument for ALL things local. I LOVE pineapple, but it doesn't grow here!!
Get caught up in the trade deficit, sell your goods for pennies, then you got NOTHIN. When you could have had some food stored up.
Don't get caught up in the game.
 
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Username: Aztectruth
Date: 2020-01-17 06:15:23
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This is one of the most interesting threads here, I've always had the impression there was something more going on with all the civil war narrative, gonna have to take a deep look into this subject.

Anybody else noticed this guys pants, they look like paint brushes (dunno if that's the right term), maybe it's the lighting, but sure looks strange to me.

(Btw that Abe Lincoln sure looks stiff :confused:)

docotred image civil war.jpg
 
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Username: anotherlayer
Date: 2020-01-17 15:35:59
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American Civil War a Photographic History :)
 
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Username: Nomad
Date: 2020-02-01 06:30:17
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This "Civil War" looks more like a post-mudflood cleanup effort and repopulation, to me.
Occam's razor
 
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Username: Bunnyman
Date: 2020-02-01 10:19:12
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Many of the purported pics look like obvious composites to me. I am no photo manipulation expert, but my intuition and my sight shows obvious manipulation (and frankly I have a hard time believing that I would be one of few on here that have those discerning sensibilities). Some forces seem to have a whole army of graphic artist and actors on hand to keep the wheel spinning in front of us.
 
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Username: Columbo
Date: 2020-03-11 15:12:13
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@sharonr, Thank you for the fantastic thread! I read it long before I joined SH and just finished going through it again so I could leave a trail of likes. Seems like this series of books is part of the sequence of post war shaping of the narrative. I grew up in east Texas, where the myth of the old south is still very strong. That perception had nothing to do with slavery; 'states rights' would be the short answer. Gone With the Wind very much solidified the country's perceptions of the event and being released right on the eve of WWII it sort of cauterized the view of the earlier event as it opened the collective consciousness to be fed the narrative of the coming war (kind of like the release of Pearl Harbor before 9/11). The prologue to the movie is telling:
“There was a land of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields called the Old South. Here in this pretty world, Gallantry took its last bow. Here was the last ever to be seen of Knights and their Ladies Fair, of Master and of Slave. Look for it only in books, for it is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind...”

― Ben Hecht


It's like a glimpse of the old world and then the script writers essentially come in and post a giant sign that says OF MASTER AND OF SLAVE and it feels a little reminicent of a BEWARE OF DOG sign.

My grandfather was a prolific reader of primarily two topics the Civil War and World War II and for him the sort of official agreed upon narrative of events was as ingrained in his psyche as those of his own life. What we are doing here would have been for him as asinine as questioning the Southern Baptist Convention. Influenced by documentaries etc, I remember being like five years old playing with plastic army men and the bad guys would be the Yankees (not the baseball team) and Hitler. This was before my own perceptions became molded by the likes of GI Joe and Transformers. When my grandfather passed I inherited his copy of the Civil War OR; it takes up an entire wall in my office and is wonderfully evocative of my childhood reading in his study. Published between 1881 and 1901 in 128 volumes, if you want the official narrative of the event here it is and this is ultimately the source for just about everything written every since. One of these days when I have a spare year I would like to really dive into it from the slant of this post and SH. Has anyone here spent any time with The War of the Rebellion: Official Records of the Civil War? There is so much there it is hard to know where to even start.

The War of the Rebellion: Official Records of the Civil War | eHISTORY

With regard to the OP, is there anywhere to find all 10 volumes of The photographic history of the Civil War : thousands of scenes photographed 1861-65 online? I would love to go through the whole thing. Looks like the set was published by:

Review of Reviews - Wikipedia

The set feels like the 1911 version of Ken Burns. Both an attempt to solidify perceptions of the event and to sell copy. All the pictures that seem to show some of the same people could be the publishing company's post production theater troupe...
 
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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2020-03-11 15:23:58
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That's a FUNNY song. ?
I half-assed posted its lyrics somewhere... Not really.
I had been in the midst of a Picture of Dorian Gray, and the terms "dandy" and "macaroni" came up and made me go a-hunting.
So that song is about poking fun at feminine affectations of "Yankees".
Deadwood brings to mind "Yankton" and perhaps some connection there...
I'm originally from Iowa and my wife's originally from North Carolina, so I know the old magic of the South. Good people in their roots.
What's wrong with G.I. Joe and Transformers? They had those great moral lessons at the end! (?)
Knowing is half the battle!
 
man. what a rabbit hole.

if I make it through o.p. original link to the book without calling the whole reality were in a wash I'd be surprised. I'll let you all know what comes of my attempts.
 
Have these photos been disproven?

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