Are we rotating at all?

[Petra]

One could ask, for what reason THEY would do that fooling us, the people? For me, its part of possible answer: We are living in a HABITAT, and every moment we imagine things, ore circumstances ( just think easy, a free space for parking the car while get your pair of shoes fixed...), we do create the material, the "room of possabilitys" is changed in that ONE, you decided to BE. We are the creator, with our fear as well as with our joy, it all is coming out of our heart! We now are in a state of " I know nothing really, but I know they were fooling me!" -they lied about "curvature of water because gravity happens", "evolution-THEORIE", Einsteins "Relativitätstheorie", Koch / Pasteur etc "Infection and viruses-theorie", THEY WANTED US TO BELIVE, WE ARE SMALL! They wanted us to think of us be helpless, witout power, like tiny dwarfs--- when in REAL, we are GIANTS ,with gigantic POWER of MANIFESTATION! TINY is our real enemy, this ??? PSYCHOPATHS:::

 

[Nick Weech]

You heard about that "slice of chorizzo-Salami", published from a scientist to tell everyone "he god a fantastic photo from one of (?) Jupiter´s moons"? I never will belive in any from "scientists" for more...he later told, it was just a joke....

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/08/05/europe/scientist-space-image-chorizo-intl-scli-scn/index.html
Yes, allegedly of Proxima Centauri " part of the nearest star system to earth"

Robert Simmon - AKA Mr. Blue Marble - NASA
"My part was integrating the surface, clouds, and oceans to match people’s expectations of how Earth looks from space. "

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umeHIxIdKxE


Pictures are worth thousands of words and no need for translators lol

 

[Seiya]

Your thread is very well produced, with mention of a famous fictional character who lived thousands of years ago but in a magical way we have access to every word he said during his magical life.

But if I go around asking "do you know who your grandfather's grandfather was?" the overwhelming majority responds "no, I don't know."
They are also used as an argument, something like evidence and should never be asked, "how dare you?"
All to soften the use of psychological manipulation in the form of questions with the aim of discouraging those who seek the truth.

I have 6 senses. I have it and use it. Others don't.

So to answer your question: "Are we rotating at all?"

Rotating from rotate (verb) and meaning "revolve or move round a center or axis" like the blender blade does, the answer is no. Do I need proof or evidence to know that I know this or can I just use my senses to answer this question?

But I can guarantee that there will be no shortage of theories and mathematical formulas and say the opposite. Or evidence that can only be observed with equipment that only NASA has.

 

[Tomkat]

You heard about that "slice of chorizzo-Salami", published from a scientist to tell everyone "he god a fantastic photo from one of (?) Jupiter´s moons"? I never will belive in any from "scientists" for more...he later told, it was just a joke....

Yes! It's become meme ish, I got fooled by pepperoni last blood moon we had...it's like a Mandelbrot set of cured meats!

 

[Nick Weech]

mention of a famous fictional character who lived thousands of years ago but in a magical way we have access to every word he said during his magical life.

Plato/Socrates you refer to? The evidence points to a much shorter period, a few hundred years perhaps...
Printing books was a magical transformation, whenever it began, replacing the slow process of copying by hand.

 

[Seiya]

Plato/Socrates you refer to? The evidence points to a much shorter period, a few hundred years perhaps...
Printing books was a magical transformation, whenever it began, replacing the slow process of copying by hand.

Well, they claim the introduced of Atlantis came from Plato.

Accepted" Plato's" story at its face value, not realizing that this story was but a fable invented by the priests, who have written Plato's works, and intended this story to serve as an historical drop-curtain on the stage of Ireland's great career. The story was invented to veil her past and to place her in oblivion at the bottom of the " Atlantic" Ocean.

I agreed that printing books was a magical transformation. It's just a shame that most of the supposedly ancient books are actually frauds produced in the same time around 1700 and 1800.

 

[FarewellAngelina]

Well, they claim the introduced of Atlantis came from Plato.

Accepted" Plato's" story at its face value, not realizing that this story was but a fable invented by the priests, who have written Plato's works, and intended this story to serve as an historical drop-curtain on the stage of Ireland's great career. The story was invented to veil her past and to place her in oblivion at the bottom of the " Atlantic" Ocean.

I agreed that printing books was a magical transformation. It's just a shame that most of the supposedly ancient books are actually frauds produced in the same time around 1700 and 1800.

I would say that the most ancient book was far older than that - dating back to the 1600's perhaps - I've seen a gravestone in a local graveyard with a date of 1696 although the 1 digit is indistinct , could be a j.

Books ,in days of old , were always printed by authors on their death beds - or after. The official world record for this is held by K. Marx who produced his Das Kapital part3 10yrs after he passed away .

The unofficial record is held by any of a plethora of ancient Greek philosophers who are still releasing their writings today - hiding them in storage boxes and such places as noted in the "Daily Fake" thread.

Nice to see there are other people aware of our senses - officially you are only allowed five , is common sense included in this total? Is the total 7? Common sense is the one that tells us the earth does not rotate.

Good interesting thread this.

 

[Seiya]

I would say that the most ancient book was far older than that - dating back to the 1600's perhaps - I've seen a gravestone in a local graveyard with a date of 1696 although the 1 digit is indistinct , could be a j.

Books ,in days of old , were always printed by authors on their death beds - or after. The official world record for this is held by K. Marx who produced his Das Kapital part3 10yrs after he passed away .

The unofficial record is held by any of a plethora of ancient Greek philosophers who are still releasing their writings today - hiding them in storage boxes and such places as noted in the "Daily Fake" thread.

Nice to see there are other people aware of our senses - officially you are only allowed five , is common sense included in this total? Is the total 7? Common sense is the one that tells us the earth does not rotate.

Good interesting thread this.

In fact, I don't know anything about "how to find out if a book was made on the date it says on it"

But I know that I can write a book today in 2025 with a date of 2000, keep it saved until 2050 and reveal it as done 50 years ago. Just as anyone could write a book in 1700 with the date 1600 and reveal 1800 as being written by my great-great grandfather 200 years ago.

The fraud market is huge because we are living in a fraud. But as always, people find excuses not to admit that they themselves are part of the fraud and contribute every day to keeping it bigger and more alive.

"It's the Matrix, it's the simulation, it's the multiverse." No, is not.
It's a demon/creature that invents something to benefit him and harm you, but as he is an expert in mind control you and adhere to it as real/correct/truth and start spreading it.

Some people, even though they know it's false, end up joining because they want to be part of the group and be accepted. Others do not have the ability to reason, they just absorb whatever comes to them. It gets to the point that even if you avoid it, it is fenced in in such a way that it almost forces you to take part, if you refuse, you start to be seen as an idiot, a horrible person, and it gets worse from there until you reach the extreme point of having your life and/or freedom at risk.

Isn't Flat Earth exactly that? And everything else? Finance system is the number one most ridicule joke in a face to everyone and control all our life and they plan to transform in even worse. I can not understand how was possible be accept!How was day 1, people was just "ok" or was everyone just that dumb?

How is it possible for you to see the sun moving across the sky for hours, clearly in front of you, and a creature/demon appears and says that what you are seeing is not happening, that in fact 'it's you and the whole world that is moving and rotating around that light, how is it possible to be so stupid and stupid?

Look at a book that is hundreds if not a thousand years old. I don't think you even get a new book from Amazon in this perfect condition.

But of course there can't be a lack of mockery. Look how they present this crap.

 

[Tomkat]

In fact, I don't know anything about "how to find out if a book was made on the date it says on it"

But I know that I can write a book today in 2025 with a date of 2000, keep it saved until 2050 and reveal it as done 50 years ago. Just as anyone could write a book in 1700 with the date 1600 and reveal 1800 as being written by my great-great grandfather 200 years ago.

The fraud market is huge because we are living in a fraud. But as always, people find excuses not to admit that they themselves are part of the fraud and contribute every day to keeping it bigger and more alive.

"It's the Matrix, it's the simulation, it's the multiverse." No, is not.
It's a demon/creature that invents something to benefit him and harm you, but as he is an expert in mind control you and adhere to it as real/correct/truth and start spreading it.

Some people, even though they know it's false, end up joining because they want to be part of the group and be accepted. Others do not have the ability to reason, they just absorb whatever comes to them. It gets to the point that even if you avoid it, it is fenced in in such a way that it almost forces you to take part, if you refuse, you start to be seen as an idiot, a horrible person, and it gets worse from there until you reach the extreme point of having your life and/or freedom at risk.

Isn't Flat Earth exactly that? And everything else? Finance system is the number one most ridicule joke in a face to everyone and control all our life and they plan to transform in even worse. I can not understand how was possible be accept!How was day 1, people was just "ok" or was everyone just that dumb?

How is it possible for you to see the sun moving across the sky for hours, clearly in front of you, and a creature/demon appears and says that what you are seeing is not happening, that in fact 'it's you and the whole world that is moving and rotating around that light, how is it possible to be so stupid and stupid?

Look at a book that is hundreds if not a thousand years old. I don't think you even get a new book from Amazon in this perfect condition.


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In fact, I don't know anything about "how to find out if a book was made on the date it says on it"

But I know that I can write a book today in 2025 with a date of 2000, keep it saved until 2050 and reveal it as done 50 years ago. Just as anyone could write a book in 1700 with the date 1600 and reveal 1800 as being written by my great-great grandfather 200 years ago.

The fraud market is huge because we are living in a fraud. But as always, people find excuses not to admit that they themselves are part of the fraud and contribute every day to keeping it bigger and more alive.

"It's the Matrix, it's the simulation, it's the multiverse." No, is not.
It's a demon/creature that invents something to benefit him and harm you, but as he is an expert in mind control you and adhere to it as real/correct/truth and start spreading it.

Some people, even though they know it's false, end up joining because they want to be part of the group and be accepted. Others do not have the ability to reason, they just absorb whatever comes to them. It gets to the point that even if you avoid it, it is fenced in in such a way that it almost forces you to take part, if you refuse, you start to be seen as an idiot, a horrible person, and it gets worse from there until you reach the extreme point of having your life and/or freedom at risk.

Isn't Flat Earth exactly that? And everything else? Finance system is the number one most ridicule joke in a face to everyone and control all our life and they plan to transform in even worse. I can not understand how was possible be accept!How was day 1, people was just "ok" or was everyone just that dumb?

How is it possible for you to see the sun moving across the sky for hours, clearly in front of you, and a creature/demon appears and says that what you are seeing is not happening, that in fact 'it's you and the whole world that is moving and rotating around that light, how is it possible to be so stupid and stupid?

Look at a book that is hundreds if not a thousand years old. I don't think you even get a new book from Amazon in this perfect condition.


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Seiya, your fire keeps me warm on this full moon. I one hundred percent agree with your sentiment here. As far as what this is, simulation etc, it's irrelevant really because as you suggested, truth is and always has been the prize in this war. So taking that hill is the only objective regardless of what form the enemy holding it takes. They are tricky bastards; the use of computing i.e phones tablets social media is their secret weapon. I wish it wasn't, but it's a game changer.
P.s I think it was Ken Wilber who said something like it's not the Truth that will set you free, but truthfulness, I always liked that and think it's true as well

 

[Vulcan]

“... It has even been reported, although apparently without historical documentation, that Adolf Hitler was influenced by concave Hollow Earth ideas and sent an expedition in an unsuccessful attempt to spy on the British fleet by pointing infrared cameras up at the sky.[48][49]”

Not very subtle, are they? Shoehorning in a mention of Hitler as a way to make a viable Earth model appear discredited; what an obnoxious tactic. Makes me think any other fringe topics that have also been chained to his name in this fashion are all worth looking into.

 

[sfwerdf234]

Not very subtle, are they? Shoehorning in a mention of Hitler as a way to make a viable Earth model appear discredited; what an obnoxious tactic. Makes me think any other fringe topics that have also been chained to his name in this fashion are all worth looking into.

It's more nefarious than that. They link the concave Earth model to the hollow Earth theory to confuse people. The two models are completely different. One is an inversion of our current model, the other is simply a hollow Earth.

And it's not just Hitler, when you look for "concave Earth" on google, the first result is a wikipedia article about the hollow Earth theory. Most of the other results on the first page are about hollow Earth as well.

 

[Birdie]

That's really the question, has all of space been faked? Are we in a closed system, dome radiation belt.? I mean look how good 2001 space Odyssey was and that was 1969...nice way to black budget funding as well
P.s I don't consider the moon space...which I guess is kind of FE, but I'm not really on board, kinda liking the concave weirdness

One theory is that we are on a possibly infinite inert plane between 2 toroidal fields, which accounts for the electromagnetism that apparently is making the circling luminaries and tides work. Even Einstein and Hawking admitted there is no evidence that the earth is rotating, they just prefer the theory. The more I learn about the origins of NASA, the Jet Propulsion laboratory, Operations Fishbowl, High Jump, and the refusal to allow public exploration of Antarctica, the more convinced I am that we have had masonic pagan heliocentrism imposed upon us, and most modern science is lies, and because of this is stagnant and becoming ever more preposterous with ideas like "dark matter", "black holes", etc., and of course, the answer to everything, magic Gravity. It appears the sun is tied closely to magnetic North, and as that drifts, the sun's circular pattern shifts, opening up frozen territory and abandoning known territory to be frozen over, "climate change". This may account for structures like the pyramids, and our bewilderment over who built them and how. The moon is theoretically a plasma phenomenon, resulting from ionization of the krypton layer of gas in the upper atmosphere. Ether exists, I believe Tesla knew this.

 

[Tomkat]

One theory is that we are on a possibly infinite inert plane between 2 toroidal fields, which accounts for the electromagnetism that apparently is making the circling luminaries and tides work. Even Einstein and Hawking admitted there is no evidence that the earth is rotating, they just prefer the theory. The more I learn about the origins of NASA, the Jet Propulsion laboratory, Operations Fishbowl, High Jump, and the refusal to allow public exploration of Antarctica, the more convinced I am that we have had masonic pagan heliocentrism imposed upon us, and most modern science is lies, and because of this is stagnant and becoming ever more preposterous with ideas like "dark matter", "black holes", etc., and of course, the answer to everything, magic Gravity. It appears the sun is tied closely to magnetic North, and as that drifts, the sun's circular pattern shifts, opening up frozen territory and abandoning known territory to be frozen over, "climate change". This may account for structures like the pyramids, and our bewilderment over who built them and how. The moon is theoretically a plasma phenomenon, resulting from ionization of the krypton layer of gas in the upper atmosphere. Ether exists, I believe Tesla knew this.

Good stuff Birdie, thanks for this as well as the flat earth stuff. Trig really is the key huh? Yay math! (or maths if you prefer, I see all the union jacks around here...)

 

[Birdie]

Good stuff Birdie, thanks for this as well as the flat earth stuff. Trig really is the key huh? Yay math! (or maths if you prefer, I see all the union jacks around here...)

Absolutely trig.

 

[Tomkat]

Absolutely trig.

I ran across these Birdie...are you familiar at all? https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k4p4gl/how_can_this_be_explained_on_a_globular_earth/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k4nnot/do_railguns_prove_flat_earth_as_some_lke_eric/

One talks about rail guns, the military weapons, and the other talks about microwaves......

 

[TommelBommel]

I ran across these Birdie...are you familiar at all? https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k4p4gl/how_can_this_be_explained_on_a_globular_earth/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k4nnot/do_railguns_prove_flat_earth_as_some_lke_eric/

One talks about rail guns, the military weapons, and the other talks about microwaves......

Not that I want to argue with a biased worldview, but what is described there is possible not only on a ‘flat Earth’ but also on a ‘concave Earth’ ... just not on a convex Earth.

 

[Tomkat]

Not that I want to argue with a biased worldview, but what is described there is possible not only on a ‘flat Earth’ but also on a ‘concave Earth’ ... just not on a convex Earth.

That seems correct, I would add though, that the trig Birdie - (FarewellAgelina )is describing seems like it would indicate convex or concave but it doesn't

Edit sorry meant Trig FarewellAgelina was referencing
Flat Earth

 

[Birdie]

I ran across these Birdie...are you familiar at all? https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k4p4gl/how_can_this_be_explained_on_a_globular_earth/

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1k4nnot/do_railguns_prove_flat_earth_as_some_lke_eric/

One talks about rail guns, the military weapons, and the other talks about microwaves......

Radar, microwaves and the missile systems require line of sight, from my understanding. There's no curvature, it's been debunked by the P-900 and 1000 Nikon cameras that really revolutionized the FE argument because the "planets" and stars seen through them were nothing like the NASA "images", and objects like boats seen going "over the curve" come back into view through the cameras. What is amazing to me is seeing things through awakened eyes. Like the moon seen during the day. The dark spots are the same color as the sky, as is the "shadowed", non-lit up portion. And at night, those areas are black, like the night sky. Why would this be? What IS the moon, and why the phases? Also, tides. Why aren't lakes affected like the oceans? And if gravity is strong enough to make all the oceans stick to a globe earth, how can birds fly away, helium balloons drift away? And why is there no video of the ISS being built? Or video of the earth rotating? Why can we see the lit up ISS flying by in the sky at 250K miles high, while we can hardly see a plane 7 miles up?
As we watch the world being inverted and made unrecognizable, watching women and White people being erased from public consciousness and existence, the idea that masonic pagan heliocentrism has been imposed under the guise of "Science" becomes very possible.
They are hiding God, the dome above us, very probably the millennial Kingdom, and our history. It is all connected.

 

[Tetromino]

What I want to know is what the next step is for them. They do seem to be losing the narrative and it begs the question: Did they really not think people would begin to question it all? Then you have some events like the recent Blue Origin blunder that seem almost intentional as if they want us to figure it out.

 

[Tomkat]

What I want to know is what the next step is for them. They do seem to be losing the narrative and it begs the question: Did they really not think people would begin to question it all? Then you have some events like the recent Blue Origin blunder that seem almost intentional as if they want us to figure it out.

I'll tell you what the next step for them is. I'm kidding I have nothing. I think they must have known it would sort of all come out in the wash. So, I suppose the way it's become/ing information wise works the way they want it to; total confusion masquerading as an endless sea of information. Hah! Of course there must be so many factors we are unaware of. Things we don't know about but that they don't control. Sun activity, program failures, the imminent return of the reptiles for the harvest, yada yada yada.