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What i could find was there were two main fires in Sydney and the more i look at it this first one on should have it's own thread. But to get the ball rolling this is what i could find and if any other Aussie would like to add to it please do.

Garden Palace Fire, 1882
Just three years after it was built, Sydney's Garden Palace building was destroyed by a great fire. The palace was engulfed by flames in the early hours of the morning on 22 September, 1882.
The Garden Palace was a large, purpose-built exhibition building constructed to house the Sydney International Exhibition in 1879 in Sydney, Australia. It was designed by James Barnet and constructed by John Young, at a cost of ₤191,800 in only eight months. This was largely due to the importation from England of electric lighting, which enabled work to be carried out around the clock.

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Sydney’s Great Fire of 1901
By Lisa Pasolli with research support from the Beaton Institute, Cape Breton University. Though an event of great destruction, the aftermath of Sydney’s Great Fire acted as an impetus to rebuild and expand.

In 1901, Sydney was a town in the midst of a remarkable transformation. Just a decade earlier, it had been what one historian has generously called a “sleepy colonial town.” At the end of the 18th century, though, the coming of the steel plant would usher in a series of extraordinary changes. Workers arrived from all over the world, new neighbourhoods sprung up, and commerce and businesses multiplied.
One of these small businesses was Gordon & Keith’s Furniture, on the west side of Charlotte Street. On the afternoon of Saturday, October 19th, 1901, in a back storeroom (according to one report) glue was being melted on an oil stove. A fire started and there was no water immediately available because of pipes under repair; within just a few minutes strong winds meant that the fire spread to several buildings.
Fire brigades from Sydney, North Sydney, Glace Bay, and the force from the steel plant responded to the fire, but it quickly became out of control. In just over an hour, as historian David Newton says, the “heart of Sydney was gutted.” With the exception of one home, businesses and houses in the two squares blocks bounded by Wentworth, Charlotte, Pitt, and Bentinck were destroyed. The total damage amounted to over $500,000, with 67 buildings destroyed. About $250,000 in insurance was paid out, and 31 families were left homeless.

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Great fire of Brisbane, 1864
From Wikipedia: the Great fire of Brisbane was a major conflagration that swept through the central parts of Brisbane in the Colony of Queensland (now a state of Australia) on 1 December 1864. For two and a half hours the fire burned out of control in large parts of Brisbane's central business district with entire blocks being destroyed, mainly in Queen, Albert, George, and Elizabeth Streets. It consumed 50 houses, 2 banks, 3 hotels, 4 draperies, and many other businesses as well as a "considerable amount of small houses". Considering the extent of the fire, casualties were very few; there was no loss of life, and four people were taken to hospital with injuries.

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Great Fires of Port Adelaide
1847, 1857, 1885
Port Adelaide has been ravaged by fire several times in its history, but three blazes in particular, in 1847, 1857 and 1885, were particularly devastating and are known as the Port's 'Great Fires'
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Not much came up on any of these fires that i could find anyway.
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Username: trismegistus
Date: 2019-05-31 20:21:34
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If nothing else, this is one of the few "photos" of these fires where I've seen a depiction of an actual building on fire, rather than just the aftermath.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-06-01 00:31:27
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How we fought fires in South Australia 100 years ago.
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They gotta be kidding with this equipment. This level of technology could not build all those buildings which perished in the "fires."

Is this really 1912?

This is just way too funny, considering the below.

1912 The Schilovski Gyrocar
(I believe it was serially produced)
The concept was originally described in fiction in 1911 "Two Boys in a Gyrocar: The story of a New York to Paris Motor Race" by Kenneth Brown, (Houghton Mifflin Co). However the first prototype Gyrocar, The Shilovski Gyrocar, was commissioned in 1912 by the Russian Count Pyotr Shilovsky, a lawyer and member of the Russian royal family. It was manufactured to his design by the Wolseley Tool and Motorcar Company in 1914 and demonstrated in London the same year. The gyrocar was powered by a modified Wolseley C5 engine of 16 - 20 hp. It was mounted ahead of the radiator, driving the rear wheel through a conventional clutch and gear box. A transmission brake was fitted after the gearbox- there were no brakes on the wheels themselves. The weight of the vehicle was 2.75 tons and it had a very large turning radius.

 
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Username: WarningGuy
Date: 2019-06-01 01:44:17
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Agree 100% . This thread i think is very important to this forum. The major cities along the east coast of Australia from Adelaide through to Brisbane as far as i can tell were already here before the first fleet arrived. Im working on a thread about the city of Melbourne that i think most will find very interesting from the date when it was first settled and what it looked like within 20 years of settlement and all i can say is there is no way in hell all that was built in that time frame. Just need to find a bit more time to do it.

Also the fires in Australia i think were actual fires not like that in the US.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-06-01 02:01:51
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I think we have to double-triple check that. In 1882, a palace at Sydney’s Royal Botanic Garden was destroyed – and with it, thousands of Indigenous artefacts.
No one knows how the Garden Palace fire of 1882 started.
  • One theory was that wealthy Macquarie Street residents, upset their harbour views had been stolen by the giant building, lit the blaze.
  • Another was that it was burnt to destroy the census of 1881. Stored in the palace, the records apparently exposed embarrassing secrets about the convict and squatter origins of many leading families. Or possibility it was an accident.

Below we have images of the Royal Botanic Garden (OP) from before, and after the 1882 Fire. I'm not sure a regular fire was supposed to do that.

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Like, in what happened there, and how hot was the fire in order to spare the vegetation while simultaneously annihilating the building?

Where is the charring?

 
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Username: maco144
Date: 2019-06-01 03:05:02
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I have been considering that the technology used to create these disasters causes an explosion from which a fire may be a byproduct. Some way of detonating and exploding the structures to reduce them to rubble seems more likely to me than a fire causing this damage given that we do not see much signs of fire damage.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-06-01 03:31:39
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A bit more on the Garden Palace Fire, for I found one additional photograph with the following description:
  • In the early hours of 22 September 1882 tragedy struck when the palace was engulfed by fire. Among the building’s contents - all destroyed - was the foundation collection of the Technological and Sanitary Museum, due to open on 1 December 1882. This collection included significant ethnological specimens such as Australian Indigenous artefacts, many of which were acquired from the Sydney International Exhibition. Collections belonging to the Linnean Society and Arts Society of New South Wales were lost, as was the colony’s census of 1881, documents relating to land occupation and railway surveys. The fire was so ferocious that the windows in the terraces along Macquarie Street cracked with the heat and sheets of corrugated iron were blown as far away as Elizabeth Bay.
  • Despite very little surviving the fierce fire, the Library has in its collection a piece of molten glass that was retrieved from the remains of the Garden Palace and donated to the Library in 1974.
To me it looks like 90% of the building simply disappeared. I don't know, got sucked into a humongous vacuum cleaner, jk.

 
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Username: Maxine
Date: 2019-06-01 05:55:48
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Now that you said it, i have remembered a "Wildfire" weapon from Game Of Thrones


Watch 'til the end from the moment i pinpointed.
Now since Game Of Thrones is a show that is massively always pushed by mainstream and since that lots of stuff they showing there could be actually real, i wonder if they actually used Wildfire (or similiar to it) weapon in all or in most of these Urban fires we talk about!
 
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2019-06-05 14:28:27
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The time of Australia being first discovered could give us a clue about the time period when the global architecture we see everywhere was still actively being developed.
 
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Username: Recognition
Date: 2019-06-05 14:47:36
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Gotta love the 'flags' painted on the etheric energy antennae both before, and, lol, after the fire
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But truly, the destruction of such a beautiful structure ?
 
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Username: Tool18
Date: 2019-08-04 11:03:31
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Haha, I have never heard of the brisbane fire, I only live an hour away so thats interesting

Crazy when you confirm it in your own city
 
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Username: SuperTrouper
Date: 2019-08-05 01:22:59
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Speculation regarding the potential cause is rather amusing... mice :D

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Username: Tool18
Date: 2019-08-05 02:05:52
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That is just bizarre haha, I am finding it very strange how all these new conspiracy have come up all of a sudden, well seems like for the last few years for most of you. I have only just discovered it and its blowing my mind.
 
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Username: WarningGuy
Date: 2019-08-05 04:16:07
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Why do you think they have all come up all of a sudden ? Ever since i was a kid i felt that a lot of the old building in Melbourne looked much older than what i was told and everyday it's looking like i was right. I'm almost 60 so that's more than a few years.. Also i don't know about others but the word conspiracy does not sit very well with me. I find it quit strange that most so called conspiracies turn out to be true anyway.
Anyway Tool18 welcome to Alternate History of the World and hope you enjoy.
 
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Username: Tool18
Date: 2019-08-05 04:44:30
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I mean I feel as though a bunch of them are pretty big and so much evidence pointing towards them, I really wonder why it wasn't picked up before. I agree and felt the same with many citys but I never thought about it enough to consider a conspiracy like that. It just seems the have popped up all of a sudden like the, mud flood, the fires, the tartar civilisation. Maybe I am wrong and people have noticed it for much longer.

And thanks you!, this is honestly one of the only forums that has REAL critical thinking and proper discussions. No sides just trying to understand and learn, don't no if its just me but there are not many of those people around.
 
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Username: WarningGuy
Date: 2019-08-05 08:49:47
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I think for me i always knew things were not right but the indoctrination and brainwashing just kept ahead of me. I always struggled with myself in my youth because of what i was thinking was not what i was being told by my peers. I wish i had of listened to myself back then but its ok i eventually woke up to it all.

Yeah i have only been here a few months and found Alternate History of the World to be quite addictive.
 
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Username: Bosco15
Date: 2020-02-03 10:45:57
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Great thread, WarningGuy.
I am totally blown away by some of the revelations on this site.
I am 50yo and came to Australia when I was twelve, from England.
Growing up with old architecture everywhere, they were just old buildings and that was normal. Seeing the same old buildings, that used to exist, in Australia, seems very strange for such a young country. The timelines just don't work.
The fact that so many have been destroyed, stinks of a cover up, to me.
 
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