Concave Earth Theory

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Username: Eagle777
Date: 2020-06-24 16:46:40
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And you may also have CET evidence that I am not yet aware of. I'd like to hear more about what you know.

Sure. I know a lot about what is already presented by others on the internet and coming up with some new points isn't an easy task. I'm not a researcher of CET, but nevertheless I have some points you might be interested in.

Rainbows
Rainbows aren't created by dispersion of light in the rain drops, they act as reflectors of the colors. Even thought the dispersion of light does happen inside the rain drops, they are not perfectly spherical to reflect the colors back to observer at the angle of 42 degrees (1). This is also the reason why you will never see a rainbow, or something similar, in the shower room or besides the street lights provided the right type of light source is used. And the reason you can't see the rainbow on the ground is because there is no reflector to reflect the colors back to observer or else the light is absorbed into the ground and converted to heat.

Sounds made by stars
Through a technique called asteroseismology, scientist were able to "record" sounds of stars. Small stars have high-pitched sounds, while the biggest ones make the lowest sounds. The sounds of stars are caused by temperature changes in the star's interior (2). While this version of explanation sounds true, this is also remarkably similar to an effect called sonoluminescence. It is a process where high-pitched sound waves cause emission of short bursts of light by bubbles in a liquid. They can be stable for days and flicker like twinkling stars (3). We don't know how long time the same experiment would last in space if the were to be repeated in a low gravity environment. Which explanation is right is matter of debate.

Sources
1. The Shape of a Raindrop | Precipitation Education
2. Symphony of stars: The science of stellar sound waves
3. Kyuichi Yasui, "Acoustic Cavitation and Bubble Dynamics", page 15.

Many ask for proofs. But since this is a history forum, I don't wish to post too much science here. And those who say that questioning the shape of our earth isn't a history. Well, I say it is big part of it because otherwise if we are wrong about the shape, then we just simply wasting our time discussing things like about how old is our earth and universe. I do really care about you and about this forum. No offense, this is just what I believe.

 

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Username: ripvanwillie
Date: 2020-06-24 19:41:17
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Sure. I know a lot about what is already presented by others on the internet and coming up with some new points isn't an easy task. I'm not a researcher of CET, but nevertheless I have some points you might be interested in.

Rainbows
Rainbows aren't created by dispersion of light in the rain drops, they act as reflectors of the colors. Even thought the dispersion of light does happen inside the rain drops, they are not perfectly spherical to reflect the colors back to observer at the angle of 42 degrees (1). This is also the reason why you will never see a rainbow, or something similar, in the shower room or besides the street lights provided the right type of light source is used. And the reason you can't see the rainbow on the ground is because there is no reflector to reflect the colors back to observer or else the light is absorbed into the ground and converted to heat.

Sounds made by stars
Through a technique called asteroseismology, scientist were able to "record" sounds of stars. Small stars have high-pitched sounds, while the biggest ones make the lowest sounds. The sounds of stars are caused by temperature changes in the star's interior (2). While this version of explanation sounds true, this is also remarkably similar to an effect called sonoluminescence. It is a process where high-pitched sound waves cause emission of short bursts of light by bubbles in a liquid. They can be stable for days and flicker like twinkling stars (3). We don't know how long time the same experiment would last in space if the were to be repeated in a low gravity environment. Which explanation is right is matter of debate.

Sources
1. The Shape of a Raindrop | Precipitation Education
2. Symphony of stars: The science of stellar sound waves
3. Kyuichi Yasui, "Acoustic Cavitation and Bubble Dynamics", page 15.

Many ask for proofs. But since this is a history forum, I don't wish to post too much science here. And those who say that questioning the shape of our earth isn't a history. Well, I say it is big part of it because otherwise if we are wrong about the shape, then we just simply wasting our time discussing things like about how old is our earth and universe. I do really care about you and about this forum. No offense, this is just what I believe.

I learned in my philosophy of science classes that science can't prove anything anyway. That is why they use Popper's falsification, basically the last theory standing (this theory sounds plausible, but has serious problems as well). Possibilities and probabilities are the real dynamics of modern science, not absolute truth. And belief plays no role whatsoever.

Karl Popper - Wikipedia
Falsifiability - Wikipedia

I'll have to research the links you provided. They look intriguing! I never thought of connecting sonoluminescence with the stars. If the firmament, or glass sky is true, then in the concave earth model it would be a concentric sphere within, filled with water! That would explain the waters above and the waters below saying. It also may give a clue to the Libyan glass mystery. I always thought of the waters above as simple rain. Maybe there is more to that. The stellar sound waves sounds a lot like Pythagoras' music of the spheres to me.

 

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Username: Eagle777
Date: 2020-07-12 20:20:00
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If earth is an artificial machine there must be an original source of power and a control center to run the show. You could say that the central sun serves this purpose, but I'm betting that there is a control center and another power station somewhere, which could be at the north or south. It is possible that the central sun wasn't the first creation which made it to become our original source of power, especially if it is considered to be a machine. And do know that any machine eventually has to be repaired which could require another source of power.

The origin and definition of the central sun is the root of the problem. If it is really a machine, like some kind of durable or perpetual device, then it may not be the whole story. The clues may be in the cause of sonoluminescence effect, generation of light and crystals.

Where does this trail lead us to and is this what keeps us enslaved?

 

[dreamtime]

Image of the "hollow earth" in the new movie Godzilla vs. Kong:

 

[dreamtime]

I moved my post to a new thread: The Earth was flat in medieval times

 

[Apollonius]

Image of the "hollow earth" in the new movie Godzilla vs. Kong:

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The Game of Thrones intro also clearly reveals the truth.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7L2PVdrb_8

 

[dreamtime]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tag5cKQT0A
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[Deleted member 37]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tag5cKQT0A
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I've already seen it 2 times! What about the sun anf the moon? Any link with explanations/suggestions?

 

[Jd755]

I've already seen it 2 times! What about the sun anf the moon? Any link with explanations/suggestions?

The source of video may hold what you seek. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5YxgT0VaUmzyJzPMDc4N2Q/featured

 

[dreamtime]

There is a group called FECORE - an association of flat-earthers. they have developed a method to determine the curvature of the earth's surface using geographic surveying.

in their 2018 experiment in Brighton, CO their results showed that the curvature is concave. They were very surprised themselves (we can give them credit for publishing the data uncensored), but flattened out the concavity significantly on a second run and made it a "local concavity" in their report, claiming it's hard to draw any conclusions from it.

But all in all the data speak for the concave earth more than for anything else.

Their first run showed the curvature to be even more concave than what a concave earth would look like, strongly suggesting it is not merely local concavity.

FECORE.org – Force The Level Pretest Results [Mirror] - The Daily Plane

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzp6DSIKk6c

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[Apollonius]

In the trailer of Spider Man: No Way Home, we can see the Concave Earth and the circles of the celestial sphere (armillary sphere).

Spider Man: No Way Home Official Trailer (2:06 for Concave Earth scene)

Recently, they've been showing the Concave Earth a lot in movies or TV shows.

 

[Akanah]

You think that because concave earth appear in some entertainment movies it is the truth ?
It is like the 10 blind men who feel an elephant and each has a different opinion about what shape the elephant has. None of the 10 men realized that the elephant is an elephant and therefore has many different shapes depending on the part of the body they felt.

 

[dreamtime]

You think that because concave earth appear in some entertainment movies it is the truth ?

He didn't imply that. He's just collecting clips that support his theory, the clips aren't the foundation of the theory. In contrast to flat earth for example, the concave earth theory has a coherent mathematical model that rivals the mathematical coherence of the heliocentrical model. So if we want to argue for or against concave earth, we should argue based on the model (an introduction to the available evidence you can find here in german.

 

[Prolix]

Not denying it's possible they were depicting that in the trailer, but on the face of it, it looks like your standard Escher-esque concave/convex psych-out effect (see also Inception).

 

[Jd755]

Does Euclidean geometry which allows us humans to construct the entirety of 'the built human environment' work on the earth shape theory 'models' featuring curves?

 

[FarewellAngelina]

The most accurate model we have.

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According to ??

 

[Apollonius]

According to ??

At least not based on "Oh! I see the horizon line straight so the whole Earth is flat."

It's an accurate model according to scientific, gnostic, historic and biblical research.

 

[FarewellAngelina]

So , according to you then.

 

[otl2021]

Water does not, cannot, and will not - EVER - become convex on the outside of its container, nor will it - EVER - become concave on the inside of its container.

And that's just very basic physics.

 

[Jd755]

The most accurate model we have.

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A pair of tachograph discs and a paint by numbers set.
Is your name Neil Ferguson perchance?