Dr. John Dee, The Hellfire Club, Obelisks and Masons: 007’s Legacy.

This is a potentially huge sub-topic. Maybe @JWW427 you would like to start a new thread? Otherwise I'm quite happy to let it run here.

As far as I'm aware there were two theories regarding Hess' flight to the UK. One was that he was deliberately lured there through various occult society connections in order to have some kind of a consultation or divination or maybe it was a horoscope, (don't remember now,) that would be vital to the German war effort. This was, of course, a ruse.

The other theory is that he was on a mission to negotiate peace. This was the last thing Churchill wanted, therefore he got locked up instead... if it was actually him.

Say what you want about bullyboy Winston, but I reckon he was 51% on the side of the light.

I probably will be. Imo he was 100% darkside. ?
 
All good points Felix.
Im writing in my current novel that Crowley was ordered to lure him to Scotland, but also that Hess wanted to have the meeting with Lord Halifax, Mountbatten, Duke of Hamilton, and the King. Lots to discuss over brandy, postwar agreements and the like.
Two for one. I think it was probably an amalgam of the two. Hess probably knew it was a ruse (He was one of the smarter Nazis), but went to Scotland anyway. Bormann had already taken his place by Hitler's side. Hess had major reservations on how the war was proceeding and was one of the few people who stood up to Hitler.
Hess had three doppelgängers if I remember right. Its a helluva mystery and a fun one too.
On the occult side, the line blurred between enemies. John Dee knew that.
 
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Hess had three doppelgängers if I remember right. Its a helluva mystery and a fun one too.
On the occult side, the line blurred between enemies. John Dee knew that.
Interesting to hear.
I know that Hitler had more than one, and Bormann had one searched and prepared by Heinrich Müller, the head of Gestapo.
And of course I immediately believe that Bormann got killed while trying to escape from besieged Berlin, and Müller died in April '45 as well ...
 
WC was definitely a hardball player, he sent the Black and Tans to Ireland spoiling for an unfair fight. He also let British cargo ships of grain rot in port while Africans starved. I cannot remember the year or country, sorry.
Even Hitler had a tiny spec of light in his Yin-Yang duality chart: He loved nature, Aryan children, music, classical art, and dogs. Thats, well, uhh...thats something I guess.

WC infuriated Hitler at just the right times, and thats enough for me. One occult bully against another, and I don't buy the narrative that Hitler was not briefed on the occult, his vegetarianism was based on the belief that the Vril-Ya "Intraterrestrial" Aldebaran Aryans were veggies themselves in their underground cavern cities and he demanded it of the SS alongside turnip & broccoli Himmler. (See: "The Coming Race," a novel that was popular with the Thule Society and SS).

Hitler and Himmler also created the Reich Tibet Institute in Berlin that sponsored Buddhist Yellow Hat monks coming from Tibet with the SS Ahnenerbe-stolen Kang Shuur texts that gave them ancient occult science from the Vedas and other sources. The Tibet expeditions leader is in my new novel as a main character, Ernst Shäfer.

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Bormann made it to Argentina, I believe. History paints his as dull-witted but thats a cover story. He was in charge of the Swiss OCTOGON Group's gold and treasure in Switzerland and at Banco Tournquist in Buenos Aires.
A story purports he was seen cashing a check for $2M in 1962 at The Bank Of New York. Who knows?

For further reading, I suggest "Nazi International" by Joseph P. Farrell.
Farrell is great in my opinion because he is conservative, and he generously cites many other sources and authors throughout the text. He also understands the occult clearly. He's not the only one out there that has done competent work on the hidden history of the Nazi's, but he's the most thorough.

Sorry, Felix. Do you want us to start another thread?



View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0x7iFLOOpQ
 
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For further reading, I suggest "Nazi International" by Joseph P. Farrell.
Farrell is great in my opinion because he is conservative, and he generously cites many other sources and authors throughout the text. He also understands the occult clearly. He's not the only one out there that has done competent work on the hidden history of the Nazi's, but he's the most thorough.

Farrell's great value (although I've yet to purchase any of his books); he makes three hours fly by whenever he's a guest on Dark Journalist.
 
Sorry, Felix. Do you want us to start another thread?

No, no not at all, unless you think it would do the topic more justice?

I have been refreshing my memory on the Hess affair. seems like it might have been a combination of both theories I mentioned earlier - he was lured, but also wanted to negotiate peace....

Hitler made a lengthy speech to his assembled Reichstag deputies on May 4, 1941. Rudolf Hess had sat between Hitler and Ribbentrop throughout.

Ribbentrop was to say a week later that Hess’s eyes had looked completely abnormal all evening and that he had seemed mentally disturbed. Hitler did not notice. Hess was an eccentric, a beloved member of the Party’s Old Guard, a believer in the supernatural and in herbal remedies; but he also had a brain of surprising shrewdness and a personal courage to match. He had been born in Egypt and was unabashedly pro-British. An enthusiastic pilot whose wings had been officially clipped by Hitler since 1933, he nevertheless found opportunities to fly the latest planes through his personal friendship with the director of air armament, Ernst Udet, and the aircraft designer Willy Messerschmitt.

“At the end of Hitler’s Reichstag speech, Hess spoke with Hitler privately for about half an hour ; no record survives. Hitler disclosed a few days later that on this occasion Hess persistently inquired whether he, the Fuhrer, still stood by the program he had set forth in Mein Kampf—of marching side by side with Britain; and that he had confirmed he did. We also have Hess’s statement, ten days later, when he was already in enemy hands, that ‘as recently as May 4, after his Reichstag speech, Hitler declared to me that he had no oppressive demands to make on England.’

“That evening a bulky packet from Rudolf Hess was delivered to the Berghof. Assuming it to contain more of the minister’s interminable memoranda, Hitler pushed the packet aside. Toward noon next day, Sunday May 11, he was standing with General Karl Bodenschatz—Goering’s representative—in the Berghofs Great Hall when there was a commotion and one of Hess’s adjutants burst in, ignoring the protests of the guards. He handed Hitler a slim envelope. Hitler turned it over to Bodenschatz to slit open. There were two pages inside, which the general handed back to him unread. Hitler put on his eyeglasses and began to glance over it indifferently. Suddenly he slumped into a chair and bellowed in a voice that could be heard all over the house: ‘Oh my God, my God ! He has flown to Britain !’... Hess’s adjutant stated unashamedly that his chief had taken off at Augsburg airfield at 5:40 P.M. the previous evening; when Hitler furiously asked why he had not told anybody until now, the adjutant gave his loyalty to Hess as the reason. Hitler swung around on Bodenschatz. ‘How is it, Herr General, that the Luftwaffe let Hess fly although I forbade it ? Get Goering here !’ But the Reichsmarschall was relaxing at his family castle north of Nuremberg.”

The bulky packet from Hess contained about fourteen pages—a long-winded account of his motives for flying and his proposed peace plan. Apparently written in October 1940 with the assistance of Albrecht Haushofer, it dealt with technical aspects of a peace settlement—for example, reparations to be paid to Germany.

“In the shorter letter—which Bodenschatz had just opened—Hess explained that he was flying to Glasgow to meet the Duke of Hamilton, a true friend of Germany whom he had met in 1936; he wanted to try for peace between Germany and Britain before the Russian campaign began. He promised not to betray ‘Barbarossa’ to the British. According to this letter, since November Hess had made three other attempts to reach Scotland; each time an aircraft malfunction had forced him back.”

Hitler found out that Willy Messerschmitt had himself supplied the advanced Messerschmitt fighter Hess had used and that Hess had availed himself of the Y-beams navigation system used by the bomber squadrons.

“It was Ribbentrop who sagely pointed out that if they waited any longer, the British might announce the news at any moment to the world—indeed, they could claim that Hess had brought an official offer for a separate peace between Germany and Britain. It might just split the whole Axis wide open. Hitler was aghast. He ordered Ribbentrop to telephone Ciano, and he at once began to dictate the text of a communique to the German people. Investigations had meanwhile established that Hess had suffered from a bile complaint for some time and had fallen under the sway of nature healers and astrologers. This facilitated the announcement that while Hess had evidently acted from idealistic motives he was in fact quite mad. ‘The Fuhrer decides to go ahead with the announcement,’ wrote Hewel. ‘He insists on including the passage about it being the action of a madman.’ By late afternoon the tenth redraft of the communique was complete and passed by Hitler. In an agony of fear that the British might still launch their propaganda campaign first, assuming Hess had safely arrived, Hitler switched on the radio. At 8 P.M. the German communique was broadcast : the Party officially announced that ‘in a hallucinated state’ Hess had taken off from Augsburg in an aircraft and not been seen since. ‘It is to be feared that Party-member Hess has crashed or met with an accident somewhere.’... Hours passed and then the BBC finally stirred : Rudolf Hess had landed by parachute in Scotland two nights before.

Albrecht Haushofer, a Berlin professor of geopolitics and son of Munich’s eminent Professor Karl Haushofer, had been befriended by Hess many years earlier.

“[Hess] shielded [him] from outrages he might have been subjected to on account of his part-Jewish wife; he had attracted Party hostility by outspoken commentaries on Anglo-German relations in his father’s monthly Zeitschrift fur Geopolitik with prognoses diametrically opposed to those of the National Socialists. (He had since mid-1938 warned of the growing Anglo-American military alliance and of the futility of Germany’s efforts to achieve economic self-sufficiency.) Albrecht Haushofer was summoned to the Obersalzberg on May 12 and ordered to explain his behaviour. He admitted that he had made many attempts to correspond with the Duke of Hamilton through Lisbon and Switzerland but said he had received no reply. Haushofer was allowed to return home, but his telephone was tapped by the Forschungsamt and his house was watched.

“There is a curious echo of this in British government files on Hess. The Duke of Hamilton first learned of Haushofer’s letters from Hess and complained to the government that these peace feelers had never reached him. The secret service requested him to take the matter no further in the national interest.

“On May 13 the Party recovered its composure and circulated a second communique : papers left behind by Hess—who was more familiar with the Fuhrer’s genuine peace proposals than any other person—suggested that he suffered from the hallucination that if he took a personal step with Englishmen known to him from earlier times, he might yet manage to bring about an entente between Germany and Britain. Hitler debated with his advisers about what to do should the British send Hess back. Ribbentrop gained the impression that Hess would be shot. Hans Frank—whom Bormann summoned post-haste to the Berghof along with all the other Party leaders and Gauleiters—later quoted Hitler as telling him: ‘This man is dead as far as I am concerned : whenever and wherever we find him we will hang him.’

“...it was now known that Hess had been “manipulated” by various astrologers, mindreaders, and nature healers who had influenced him to fly to Britain; in doing so he had put the Reich in an impossible predicament with her allies, particularly Italy and Japan. Hewel later described the scene in his diary. As Goering stands behind him with earnest mien “Bormann reads out the letters left by Hess. A dramatic assembly, heavy with emotion. The Fuhrer comes, speaks very humanly, analyses Hess’s act for what it is, and proves he was deranged from his lack of logic : the idea of landing near a castle he has never seen and whose owner, Hamilton, is not even there, etc.;

“Hitler could not have known that Hess had in fact succeeded in navigating in pitch darkness to within twelve miles of his target, had then parachuted safely (no mean feat for a man of forty-seven on his first attempt), and was actually in conversation with the Duke of Hamilton within a matter of hours. Under interrogation, Hess, speaking good English, explained that this was his fourth attempt to fly to Britain. He had got the idea when he was with the Fuhrer during “Yellow,” in June 1940. He had deliberately refrained from attempting the flight while Britain was scoring successes in Libya in case his proposals were interpreted as a sign of German weakness. With the Nazi victories in North Africa and the Balkans the situation had, however, changed. His knowledge of the Luftwaffe’s expansion plans and the submarine construction program made him confident in Germany’s ultimate victory. But Hitler had no desire to inflict slaughter and defeat on Britain: From a long and intimate knowledge of the Fuhrer which had begun eighteen years before in the fortress of Landsberg he could give his word of honor that (unlike the Americans) the Fuhrer had never entertained any designs against the British Empire. Nor had he ever aspired to world domination. Mr. Churchill would not, however, be an acceptable negotiating partner. Hess stated that he had come unarmed and of his own free will, and he asked for his release on parole. Churchill ordered his incarceration for the rest of the war.Source

So the British Secret Service had been intercepting letters from Hess and therefore knew of his intention to fly to Scotland to negotiate peace. The Duke of Hamilton, did not know and so must have been quite shocked to see the Deputy Fuhrer turn up on his doorstep in the dead of night - what a picture that would have made. Hess had also apparently been manipulated (or maybe encouraged is a better description of it) into his actions by astrologers, herbalists, mind-readers etc. who were no doubt connected to the British Secret Service - who knows if Crowley, Fleming or Wheatley even?

One of the more unfortunate outcomes of this incident was the rise of Martin Boorman.

WC was definitely a hardball player

And yet, he never remained in London during an air-raid. He was in very close communication with the Air Ministry who would warn him immediately of a forthcoming raid and they knew the targets as they could read the Y-beam. His personal chauffeur has given evidence that he would always have to drive him out of London before any air raid, In fact, the night Coventry was bombed he went scurrying out of London as usual, but just at the last minute the information came through that the target wasn't London, so he returned to Downing Street. He then proceeded to perform his usual party-trick of going up onto the roof in defiance of the Luftwaffe and to show solidarity with Londoners. Needless to say, this party-trick was only ever seen when there was no air-raid scheduled.

Meanwhile, my family, grandparents, parents, uncles, aunts, nieces, nephews, were all getting the sh-t bombed out of them just over the river. They hated 'Winnie' along with most Londoners - he was 'The War-Monger' to them. Never mind all the grey-magic of the media and the "All pull together spirit of the Blitz" BS in the movies and TV series, it was hell on Earth. He never went on walkabouts in London after he refused to make peace in 1942 (or was it 41?), because it wasn't safe for him.

The garden of the house I was born into still had the Anderson shelter my great-grandfather made... fat lot of good that would have been if a bomb had landed anywhere near it. I suppose it would have saved the need for coffins though. ?
 
That sounds spot-on regarding Hess. By all accounts he was furious over the war with Britain. Aryans fighting Aryans.
He had Udet cobble together a BF-110 twin engine heavy fighter with oversized drop tanks. Hess refueled and re-oiled in northern Denmark, then flew a zig-zag course so RAF radar would know it was him. Two Spitfires were scrambled to find him visually in the dark. Thats probably when he bailed out having run dry of gas. If the RAF and the Brits were not in on this deal, Hess would have been shot down fast. Night fighting in aircraft during the war was hot and sharp.

Adolph Galland dispatched his fighters to chase the Hess plane 20 minutes too late. Göring was in on the Hess deal, many think he wanted to be an aristocratic chancellor, a Prussian one like Frederick the Great. All three men hated Hitler. The German fighters flew a wrong course. I think Göring also had the Luftwaffe radar operators fudge a few numbers.

Haushofer was an occultist bar none, but an unreliable opium addict.
The whole Hess affair is worth a thread, but Im not sure what exactly happened, but some type of armistice and anti-Russian deal was proposed.
One account said King George had cold feet about any Hess deals and backed out. The other Brits may have followed. An occultists hierarchy in play? Maybe.
Its also possible his doppelgänger served the time in prison. Some say he had no telltale bullet scar.

Old WC was quite a dark horse character.
Thats a great story about the air raids and your bomb shelter.
 
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What a great thread! Thank you Felix for the OP and to other contributors, particularly to JWW for amazing insights. I'll add a few points which are hopefully useful.

Frances Yates' The Occult Philosophy and the Elizabethan Age is a thorough and well footnoted history which seeks to resolve a major paradox about John Dee. See particularly pages 92-110 in the linked PDF.

In Synchronicity and the Seventh Seal - particularly chapter 44 (entitled Doctor John Dee) - Peter Moon makes some interesting remarks about Dee, as follows:
  • Dee was dealing with the Forbidden Zone. He was not only investigating all of those areas of the human brain that are normally inaccessible but was dealing with the mechanism that would activate them. These functions, particularly the latter, are so shut off in ordinary human beings that there should be no wonder why Dee's very existence is met with so much "dead gray matter" by historians. We are talking about the program which controls the program by which we live and meander through life on Earth. It is only the occultists that have any clue about John Dee, but their work leaves something to be desired. If it did not, then we would all be living in a world where John Dee was demystified and the merits of his work would be fully appreciated and optimally integrated into the culture. The problem is, however, that his work and influence has been literally imbedded into our culture but on an unconscious basis that has run amuck. If our society can get out of its abject denial about this man and his influence, only then can John Dee be appreciated and admired for his acts and who he actually was.
  • The movie Elizabeth is a prime example of Dee's "non-being" when it comes to his role in history being obscured or obliterated.
  • A major inspiration in Dee's career was the work of Johannes Trithemius, a master cryptographer. This is where the eventual 007 connection stems from.
  • The founding of English language has been attributed to John Dee. Francis Bacon, who authored Shakespeare's plays, was a pupil of John Dee. Bacon was also instrumental in establishing the Rosicrucian Society two years after Dee's death, as a counter to the Jesuits.
  • John Dee literally conjured up the British Empire in front of Kit Marlowe on the Isle of Dogs, as stated in Mind Invaders. This book also notes Dee's substantial influence on Gerard Mercator which resulted in the Greenwich Meridian being chosen as the Prime Meridian in order to harness the ley line which runs right through the Isle of Dogs. This entire theory received a shot in the arm when Derek Beacon, a man known to be a neo-Nazi occultist and a practitioner of Enochian magick was elected as a councillor on the Isle of Dogs.
  • One of Dee's most sensitive possessions was what he called the "shewstone" (showstone), a black obsidian mirror, a.k.a. the stone of manifestation or the speculum. Egg shaped crystal balls were important, but nowhere near the obsidian mirror. The "shewstone" came from America. How? Well, John Dee had a unique family history. A Welshman, he was of the same lineage as Prince Madoc ab Owain Gwynedd, who had travelled to America hundreds of years earlier. In the Popol Vuh, the ancient sacred text of Mexico, there is a reference to a black mirror that is very similar to Dee's shewstone, pertaining to Quetzacoatl's evil twin brother "Smoking Mirror".
  • John Dee's shadow engineered a dark empire which is rooted deeply in the unconscious. This empire still lives today (it never died) and influences our daily lives.
  • The large majority of academic scholarship in the history of Western Civilization can be traced back to the work of John Dee.
 
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The founding of English language has been attributed to John Dee. Francis Bacon, who authored Shakespeare's plays, was a pupil of John Dee. Bacon was also instrumental in establishing the Rosicrucian Society two years after Dee's death, as a counter to the Jesuits.
Who is also suspected of being the author of the King James Bible.
 
Haushofer was an occultist bar none, but an unreliable opium addict.

Do you mean Albrecht or his father Karl? Karl was a student of Gurdjieff in Tibet and also lived in Japan where he became a member of 'The Green Dragon.' This was a nominally Buddhist organisation who were sworn to a 'mission' whereby if they failed they had to commit suicide... which he did along with his wife in March 1946, even though he had been exonerated of war-crimes. He was the big cheese in the Luminous Lodge, of course.

Probably the biggest influence on Hitler was the person he dedicated the second edition of Mein Kampf to:

"Together with those, and as one of the best of all, I should like to mention the name of a man who devoted his life to reawakening his and our people, through his writing and his ideas and finally through positive action. I mean Dietrich Eckart".

Shortly before his death in 1923, Eckart is said to have made this enigmatic statement:

"Hitler will dance, but it is I who have called the tune ! I have initiated him into the 'Secret Doctrine', opened his centres of vision and given him the means to communicate with the Powers. Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced History more than any other German".

Which sounds like a scene from an Andrew Lloyd-Webber musical drama. ?

Personally, I think that the whole 'Aryan' thing was a massive setup. That's maybe another thread though.

seeks to resolve a major paradox about John Dee

Personally, it's my belief that he got caught in the same trap as all those before and since, who try to conjure and control 'spirits.' This was probably further exacerbated by the 'quality' of his medium - Kelley.

The "shewstone" came from America. How?

This is answered in the OP. It was a gift to Dee from Phillipe II of Spain who obtained it from the conquistadors.
 
Shortly before his death in 1923, Eckart is said to have made this enigmatic statement:

"Hitler will dance, but it is I who have called the tune ! I have initiated him into the 'Secret Doctrine', opened his centres of vision and given him the means to communicate with the Powers. Do not mourn for me: I shall have influenced History more than any other German".
Which sounds like a scene from an Andrew Lloyd-Webber musical drama. ?
I would relate that to Dee and the "Angelic/Enochian language" as a code for secret service operation.
The statement "give him the means to communicate with the Powers" should read as: "I am his handler". Or his successor, consequently.
 
One account said King George had cold feet about any Hess deals and backed out.

I meant to respond to this earlier, but got carried away, as usual.

Thanks to Winston Churchill's direct ancestor, John Churchill, who was probably one of the biggest traitors in the history of the British Isles, the British monarchy has had no power whatsoever since 1689.

Source: “Pawns in the Game”, William Guy Carr.
It is interesting to note that John Churchill, 1650-1722, became the leading military figure during this period of English history. Because of his military genius, and his services to Britain, he was created the first Duke of Marlborough... In 1701 the Duke of Marlborough was made Commander-in-chief of the armed forces of Holland. No less an authority than the Jewish Encyclopedia records the fact that for his many services The Duke of Marlborough received not less than £6,000 a year from the Dutch Jewish banker, Solomon Medina.

The duke is the direct ancestor of Sir Winston Churchill, the Prime Minister of England today... i.e. 1954 — Churchill is self-acknowledged as having been the foremost Zionist of this era. He is the man most responsible for influencing the United Nations to create the State of Israel.”

With John Churchill's almost immediate defection to the side of the invading William Prince of Orange, King of the Netherlands on November 5th, 1688, he assisted in the institution of the Bill of Rights, which gave parliament the ultimate word in everything (or rather those who controlled it,) The Bank of England and the national debt, that is still unpaid today and the initial divisive cruelty and barbarism that created the centuries long Irish and Scottish resentment of England. This was what is now referred to as 'The Glorious Revolution'. No one realises that his event was as significant as the French and Russian revolutions. It was the beginning of 'Great Britain' the place that's been controlled by the same forces who financed John Churchill and cultivated William of Orange ever since that time. Winston was just carrying on the family tradition and by his time he was of the same religion as the financiers... the same financiers who backed Hitler and the NSDAP.
 
Winston was just carrying on the family tradition and by his time he was of the same religion as the financiers... the same financiers who backed Hitler and the NSDAP.
Not sure if I mentioned this here already:
Antony Sutton's "Wallstreet And The Bolshevik" and "Wallstreet And The Rise Of Hitler" are a recommended read. They used to be downloadable for free.
And his follow-up book "The Best Enemy Money Can Buy" about the fake Cold War.
 
Codis, those are very good reads.
Lots to unpack here, I need more coffee.

As for John Churchill, you cannot blame WC for the dastardly deeds of his rapscallion ancestor. If a law was passed on that, we'd all be in prison.
As for running to the countryside during the Blitz, remember that WC saw action in three wars (Sudan, Boer, WW1) prior to WW2. Perhaps a brute, yes, an opportunist most definitely, but he was no coward. He also wanted to be on a ship during D-Day, but IKE refused his request as overall Allied commander.
Like all warlord leaders during a major crisis, some loved WC, some hated him. Im in the middle. One cannot say he didn't have style!
Big banks, corporations, military contractors, and financiers are the only true winners of wars. Thats the sad reality of our history.

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The British monarchy waxed and waned during the centuries, but they always had secret power and vast funding in the shadows. (See: Order of the Garter). All those worthless medals and BS awards they get always have occult meaning to some secret society. The Maltese cross is festooned on everyones chest.

Prince Albert.jpeg Prince Albert

Many have said that the Royal Family today is worth many trillions of pound sterling. I believe that.
Monarchies always rule in secret no matter the prime ministers, parliaments, or governmental councils that front for them. All those pesky Babylonian Annunaki bloodlines and whatnot....(?)
 
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...remember that WC saw action in three wars (Sudan, Boer, WW1) prior to WW2.
I remember him having a high-ranking position at the military occupation forces in North Africa at that time, and he personally ordered the bombing of Berber camps mostly consisting of women, children and elderly, to beat the insurgent men into submission.
A psychopath, in short words.

Not to mention, concentration camps were a British idea, stemming from the Boar war.
As with Eugenics, originating in British peer circles (Francis Galton, Charles Darwin's cousin), and first implemented in the early 1930's in the US (e.g. forced sterilizations of blacks).
 
Perhaps so.

Afghanistan:
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Churchill found his love for war during the time he spent in Afghanistan. While there he said “all who resist will be killed without quarter” because the Pashtuns need “recognise the superiority of race”. He believed the Pashtuns needed to be dealt with, he would reminisce in his writings about how he partook in the burning villages and peoples homes:

“We proceeded systematically, village by village, and we destroyed the houses, filled up the wells, blew down the towers, cut down the great shady trees, burned the crops and broke the reservoirs in punitive devastation.” – Churchill on how the British carried on in Afghanistan, and he was only too happy to be part of it.

https://crimesofbritain.com/the-crimes-of-winston-churchill/
 
We had not been teached much of British history in school.
But was that the time/war that led to Afghanistan's name "grave of empires" ?
 
Second Anglo-Afghan War, but also the first one too.

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The Second Anglo-Afghan War was a military conflict fought between the British Raj and the Emirate of Afghanistan from 1878 to 1880, when the latter was ruled by Sher Ali Khan of the Barakzai dynasty, the son of former Emir Dost Mohammad Khan. The war was part of the Great Game between the British and Russian empires. (Wiki-lies).
Ghunga Din movie. Khyber Pass slaughters. Opium trade.


Today...
The USA will always be in Afghanistan, Brits too (remember Prince Harry firing the 50 cal machine-gun?). We publicly pull out troops and secretly insert Special Ops battalions while no one is looking. The USA has entire military companies and even battalions off the books and protected by National Security dictums. They don't officially exist. (Our media is 100% corrupt). The Taliban only number in the hundreds, a BS cover story.
"An Alladdin's Cave to protect, not a war to be won." Said some tipsy and arrogant US Army general. He received major grief for saying that here in Wash. DC.
Rare earth elements, archeological treasures, gems, gold, heroin ($$$), tunnels and caverns, (UFO bases?) and a fine spot to spy on China and all the other "Trashcanistans." (No offense).
This is why the Russians wanted Afghanistan in the 1980s and bitterly fought for it.


This is mainstream news, but has some good tidbits. Read between the lines.
https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-...ks-prepares-document-dumps-iraq-and-diplomacy
On the wild side, perhaps red-headed Nephilim attacking US Marines from caves?

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(Our media is 100% corrupt). The Taliban only number in the hundreds, a BS cover story.
Who would have thought that ... :eek:
The USA has entire military companies and even battalions off the books and protected by National Security dictums. They don't officially exist.
That's interesting stuff I never heard before.
But I read that almost 100 per cent of the ISIS / DAESH inner core consists of US/British/French special unit mercenaries, so I am not really surprised.
 
As for John Churchill, you cannot blame WC for the dastardly deeds of his rapscallion ancestor.

I don't blame Winston for the deeds of his ancestors, I was illustrating the family code of ethics.ç

Perhaps a brute, yes, an opportunist most definitely, but he was no coward.

There are those who believe that all of his Hollywood style heroic deeds were BS. Then there was his Gallipoli disaster, whereby tens of thousands died, which he pulled off again in WW2 to get himself made Prime Minister so he could start bombing civilians and lock up anyone who didn't agree with him:

"The machinery of intrigue and rebellion against Mr. Chamberlain was set in motion. Ultimately he was saddled with the blame for the Norway blunder; and this pretext was used by the Churchillian-cum- Socialist caucus to secure his downfall.
"It should be remembered in this connection that prior to and during the Norway gamble, Mr. Churchill had been invested with full powers and responsibilities for all Naval Military and Air operations; and if anyone therefore deserved to be broken over that second Gallipoli (pursued in defiance of high naval authority warning that, without control of the Cattegat and Skaggerack it could not possibly succeed) it should have been the Minister responsible.
"He however was not only unbroken, he was acclaimed Prime Minister. The man who would tear up the British pledge of September 2nd, 1939, and start bombing the civilians of Germany was the man for the war mongers who now ruled the roost.
"And so civilian bombing started on the evening that the architect of the Norwegian fiasco became Prime Minister, viz., May 11th, 1940." Source 'The Nameless War,' Captain Archibald H. Maule-Ramsay, 1952.​

A psychopath, in short words.

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We had not been teached much of British history in school.

Us Brits neither, as some of us later discovered ?
 
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