Finials and Cavity Resonance

[Tetromino]

There have been many discussions on the reason for these balls and spires, also known as finials, however they seem to overcomplicate the matter by suggesting they were filled with mercury or some other kind of substance. I believe there may be a simpler function that is being overlooked.

Cavity Resonance.

Build a cavity with a set shape and funnel and it will create a specific frequency when vibrated.

So how was it vibrated? That's where St. Elmo's fire comes in. St. Elmo's fire is a corona discharge induced by a high difference in potential, or voltage. For anybody who isn't already aware and is reading this thread. The voltage in the atmosphere increases about 100v for every meter.

With a tall spire and a good ground, that's quite a lot of potential difference. The potential difference can be increased further with a good ground and many older churches and cathedrals were built over aquifers and wet ground is a much better conductor than dry ground. The potential difference in the atmosphere may have been even higher when the buildings were originally built. You don't need that much to induce a corona discharge depending on the geometry of the shape at the top of the spire such as having sharp points.

So with a corona discharge, or St. Elmo's fire, you now have a have a source of vibration. If you've heard St. Elmo's fire it can create quite a hiss even if there isn't enough voltage to make it visible. The finial acts as a band-pass filter only allowing a specific specific frequency through. Underneath the cavity resonator is a horn shape to amplify the frequency coming out.

Understand that any modern instance of these is going to be a skeuomorph, that is they are simply ornamental as people have forgotten, or were made to forget, their original function but knew that this is the shape that you put on top of a spire to finish it off. So I doubt there is any working example on any church or cathedral as they have all been replaced or tampered with.

This ties in with the theory that cathedrals and churches were places of healing. They created frequencies and the building was designed to reverberate that frequency. Some may have had different frequencies such as St Basil's cathedral as can be noted by the different sizes of the resonators. Perhaps each room was used to heal different problems? The fact is people knew these were places of healing even after Christianity took over and the original reason was forgotten.

This website can help with understanding how the frequency can be calculated: Cavity Resonance

 

[Jd755]

Of relevance to this theory.
Old Helmets with Spires (Spikes)

And the content of this page.
The radio hat was basically the geekiest gift of 1949

 

[Ash_Williams]

Great insight!

I've heard reports about the old buildings having extremely "fresh" air, as if filled with negative ions. I wonder if these spinals could have helped to collect and channel them into the structure? I wonder if the function of the "fireplaces" that had no flue was to emit said ions, somehow.

 

[Quiahuitl]

The potential difference in the atmosphere may have been even higher when the buildings were originally built. You don't need that much to induce a corona discharge depending on the geometry of the shape at the top of the spire such as having sharp points.

So with a corona discharge, or St. Elmo's fire, you now have a have a source of vibration. If you've heard St. Elmo's fire it can create quite a hiss even if there isn't enough voltage to make it visible. The finial acts as a band-pass filter only allowing a specific specific frequency through. Underneath the cavity resonator is a horn shape to amplify the frequency coming out.

Do you have any data on what voltage difference is required to create the St Elmo's fire effect?

From what you've said, it appears there are two voltage thresholds -

1) Voltage difference at which the effect occurs making noise but no light

2) Voltage at which you would see light.

 

[Tetromino]

There is video evidence of "invisible" St Elmo's fire occuring on hikers:
St. Elmo's Fire phenomenon was caught on camera and it is STRANGE - The Weather Network



Keep in mind these are people who are wearing shoes and not grounded very well. Imagine the effect when you have a metal device that is properly grounded and specifically designed to resonate. The average voltage needed to induce St. Elmo's fire seems to be around 30kv but sharp points can induce it at lower voltages.

I know drawings aren't the best evidence but I see no reason why this particular one would be false. It is an old depiction of the Notre Dame with St Elmo's fire visible on the top of the spire:

It makes you wonder if that's why they had to burn it down because it was still operational.

And here is another drawing from the Royal Astronomical Society depicting "ball lighting" on the top of a church spire in Painswick, Gloucestershire, England:

 

[Artemisian]

Great insight!

I've heard reports about the old buildings having extremely "fresh" air, as if filled with negative ions. I wonder if these spinals could have helped to collect and channel them into the structure? I wonder if the function of the "fireplaces" that had no flue was to emit said ions, somehow.

"Fireplace" appears to be a modern term, and they were formerly known as "chimneys", with chimneys being called tunnells e.g. the following quote from the journal discussed in the post Through England on a Side Saddle...

Celia’s description of the Dean’s house in Salisbury, opposite the Cathedral:
there is one dineing roome yt the Chimney is just under a window and the Tunnells runnes upon each side. There is one Chamber, the chimney stands Just by the window opposite to Salsebury, and on the black Marble Chimney piece soe finely polished you may see all the Cathedrall as in a Glass; I have seen it plaine.

No mention of a heat source, or soot - rather the opposite, with finely polished black marble being a feature.

In my old Welsh dictionary from 1861, I found chimney translated as “simnai”, alongside “ffumer” (smoke), “ffynetr” (window), and “llumon” (light).

I looked up “simnai” to see if there are any related words listed, and found a different spelling of “simdde”. “Si” in Welsh is pronounced “shi”, and “dd” like ‘th’ in the, that, so the Welsh word sounds like “shimney” or “shimthe”. A group of related words were “sim” (what is flippant or light), “simer” (levity; a frisk), “simera” (to frisk, to dally), and “simp” (a fickle state; a flutter).

In Swedish, we find "skimrande", again, pronounced with a "sh", meaning iridescent. Not a bad description of St. Elmo's fire.

I can't believe that chimneys were originally conceived of as a place to burn wood or coal, as there would be an old linguistic connection to fire/smoke in the terminology. Instead, there is an ancient common root of "shim" with a shimmery meaning, which more likely gives chimneys their name, and hints at a lost functionality.

 

[Jd755]

Just for accurate context.

its a pretty little town a good Market for corn and there is the Mindiffe Coale which is allmost as good as the sea Coale from newcastle that is dugg out of the hills all about;

To Aberford we Came by severall pretty Seates in view, we Lay at an acquaintances house Mrs Hickeringalls: thence we went to Castleton Bridge 5 mile, where was a glass house; we saw them blowing white glass and neale it in a large oven by the heate of ye ffurnace. All the Country is full of Coale and the pitts are so thick in ye roade that it is hazardous to travell for strangers.

And my reply to you in regards fires and chimneys.
Through England on a Side Saddle in the Time of William and Mary

 

[Artemisian]

I remember the refutation relying on the fact that coal was being mined at the time of the writing of the journal, and must therefore have always been burned inside houses (instead of safer, more elegant, and less smelly solutions such as hypocausts, and the use of hot water radiators) and that house built in 1920s were built with fireplaces and therefore all houses ever built beforehand must also have used the same primitive heating methods. Not convincing enough for me.

 

[Frostychud]

And here is another drawing from the Royal Astronomical Society depicting "ball lighting" on the top of a church spire in Painswick, Gloucestershire, England:

St. Elmo's fire can induce ball lightning. I speculate elsewhere that this may be the fundamental function of temple and church architecture. A few excerpts from "Ball Lightning: Paradox of Physics" by Paul Sagan:

 

[cottoncrush]

I know drawings aren't the best evidence but I see no reason why this particular one would be false. It is an old depiction of the Notre Dame with St Elmo's fire visible on the top of the spire:

The spires on almost all old churches, including Notre Dame, are based on Phi proportions and are designed to accumulate energy, much like the Giza Pyramids.

The church spires are specifically similar to "Russian Pyramids," which are a series of pyramids that have been built throughout Russia based on the research of Dr. Alexander Golod on behalf of the Russian government.

There are different types of pyramids that depend on the sharpness of their angle, which is directly related to their Phi proportion, and each different angled pyramid collects, manipulates and ejects energy in a different way.

Giza = Φ¹ = 1.618
Russian = Φ³ = 4.235

There are other spires based on different powers of Phi. I believe powers 1 - 6 are used for church spires. I don't think they go any higher than 6, otherwise you'd have a very sharp pyramid.

The energy that is collected within the pyramid/spire shape accumulates from the bottom up and eventually comes out of the apex.
When it releases from the apex, the "shape" that it takes on is an inverted pyramid, increasing in diameter the further away the energy gets from the apex. This is similar to the photos @Tetromino posted.

 

[Jd755]

Don't overlook the minaret. The finial collects power the dome amplifies and refines it to give enough to run microphone and loudspeakers through the metal railing.
It has metal finial and balls on top of stone dome on top of a stone column.

 

[Jd755]

As for this one, my god the power this must be channelling.
The Tower - Explore what is on offer | Burj Khalifa

 

[Truthseeker2468]

There have been many discussions on the reason for these balls and spires, also known as finials, however they seem to overcomplicate the matter by suggesting they were filled with mercury or some other kind of substance. I believe there may be a simpler function that is being overlooked.

Cavity Resonance.

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Build a cavity with a set shape and funnel and it will create a specific frequency when vibrated.

So how was it vibrated? That's where St. Elmo's fire comes in. St. Elmo's fire is a corona discharge induced by a high difference in potential, or voltage. For anybody who isn't already aware and is reading this thread. The voltage in the atmosphere increases about 100v for every meter.

View attachment 30910​

With a tall spire and a good ground, that's quite a lot of potential difference. The potential difference can be increased further with a good ground and many older churches and cathedrals were built over aquifers and wet ground is a much better conductor than dry ground. The potential difference in the atmosphere may have been even higher when the buildings were originally built. You don't need that much to induce a corona discharge depending on the geometry of the shape at the top of the spire such as having sharp points.

So with a corona discharge, or St. Elmo's fire, you now have a have a source of vibration. If you've heard St. Elmo's fire it can create quite a hiss even if there isn't enough voltage to make it visible. The finial acts as a band-pass filter only allowing a specific specific frequency through. Underneath the cavity resonator is a horn shape to amplify the frequency coming out.

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Understand that any modern instance of these is going to be a skeuomorph, that is they are simply ornamental as people have forgotten, or were made to forget, their original function but knew that this is the shape that you put on top of a spire to finish it off. So I doubt there is any working example on any church or cathedral as they have all been replaced or tampered with.

This ties in with the theory that cathedrals and churches were places of healing. They created frequencies and the building was designed to reverberate that frequency. Some may have had different frequencies such as St Basil's cathedral as can be noted by the different sizes of the resonators. Perhaps each room was used to heal different problems? The fact is people knew these were places of healing even after Christianity took over and the original reason was forgotten.

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This website can help with understanding how the frequency can be calculated: Cavity Resonance

Great information, thank you for putting this together. It is obvious to me that these old structures were more then just places of worship. They likely were places of worship as well as places of healing. After all, churches are supposed to be places of healing. Today that healing takes on more of a spiritual nature but I believe it was likely both spiritual and physical healing connected to worship of God and music and frequency. If the theory I believe is correct about the reset being the transition from the 1000 yr millennial reign of Christ to Satans little season. It makes sense the enemy would desire to suppress this knowledge.

 

[cottoncrush]

As for this one, my god the power this must be channelling.
The Tower - Explore what is on offer | Burj Khalifa

There could be many buildings built like this channeling energy that only a select few know about.

 

[Jd755]

There could be many buildings built like this channeling energy that only a select few know about.

Or none of them are...who can say?

 

[Quiahuitl]

I know drawings aren't the best evidence but I see no reason why this particular one would be false. It is an old depiction of the Notre Dame with St Elmo's fire visible on the top of the spire:

View attachment 30955​

It makes you wonder if that's why they had to burn it down because it was still operational.

And here is another drawing from the Royal Astronomical Society depicting "ball lighting" on the top of a church spire in Painswick, Gloucestershire, England:

View attachment 30956​

Thanks for this.

There are a lot of claims being made about the old-world buildings, like they generated energy or they used to light up at night, and I've been trying to find proof of those claims. The kind of proofs I've been considering are things like a) photos of the same buildings day and night, and b) photos of buildings lit up, dated to a time when no conventional electricity generation was available in the area.

You have provided a different kind of proof, thank you.

 

[Udjat]

"Fireplace" appears to be a modern term, and they were formerly known as "chimneys", with chimneys being called tunnells e.g. the following quote from the journal discussed in the post Through England on a Side Saddle...

Celia’s description of the Dean’s house in Salisbury, opposite the Cathedral:
there is one dineing roome yt the Chimney is just under a window and the Tunnells runnes upon each side. There is one Chamber, the chimney stands Just by the window opposite to Salsebury, and on the black Marble Chimney piece soe finely polished you may see all the Cathedrall as in a Glass; I have seen it plaine.

No mention of a heat source, or soot - rather the opposite, with finely polished black marble being a feature.

In my old Welsh dictionary from 1861, I found chimney translated as “simnai”, alongside “ffumer” (smoke), “ffynetr” (window), and “llumon” (light).
View attachment 30983
I looked up “simnai” to see if there are any related words listed, and found a different spelling of “simdde”. “Si” in Welsh is pronounced “shi”, and “dd” like ‘th’ in the, that, so the Welsh word sounds like “shimney” or “shimthe”. A group of related words were “sim” (what is flippant or light), “simer” (levity; a frisk), “simera” (to frisk, to dally), and “simp” (a fickle state; a flutter).
View attachment 30984
In Swedish, we find "skimrande", again, pronounced with a "sh", meaning iridescent. Not a bad description of St. Elmo's fire.

I can't believe that chimneys were originally conceived of as a place to burn wood or coal, as there would be an old linguistic connection to fire/smoke in the terminology. Instead, there is an ancient common root of "shim" with a shimmery meaning, which more likely gives chimneys their name, and hints at a lost functionality.

I know this sounds weird and possibly childish, but do you remember the movie Mary Poppins? Bert was the "chimney sweep" and to him the "chimney world" was a place of wonder and mystery and luck. I know that it is just a movie but there is Allegory in all art. I also believe that Mary Poppins took place in London England at about the Edwardian age. Maybe this is a good indication of why these types of buildings were being built, because of the know tech. Only the people at the top of these times would know of this. Maybe that is why Tesla lived in the New Yorker building, and had his lab there, with the huge power station built in, and his tower was taken down after his death in 1917 I believe. The time line of all these stories represent a base, maybe not? Just sayin'.

I would just like to point out that India has many of these ball and spire buildings including lots of other countries, and a lot of these buildings look as though they have been petrified. Maybe they had the spire tech figured out and it backfired in their face. Then maybe someone figured out how to go about it again and the secrets of the tech were being reverse engineered. It is as simple as that, because most of us are just trying to stay alive, not figure out power sources. So the people that are involved with such stuff would not just go and tell the whole world about what they were trying to accomplish, they would just continue. All of these wars that we know have been fought over different reasons then what we have been told, they were probably fought over these rights of tech power and information of the kind. Our wars are never fought over the oppression of other people, they are fought over hidden agendas, like advanced tech and power over others, never for the good of the people. Only what was good for the people at the top.

Great information, thank you for putting this together. It is obvious to me that these old structures were more then just places of worship. They likely were places of worship as well as places of healing. After all, churches are supposed to be places of healing. Today that healing takes on more of a spiritual nature but I believe it was likely both spiritual and physical healing connected to worship of God and music and frequency. If the theory I believe is correct about the reset being the transition from the 1000 yr millennial reign of Christ to Satans little season. It makes sense the enemy would desire to suppress this knowledge.

Any church that I have been to in the United States at least, is not a place of healing, they are a place of huge judgement, judgement that comes from some other realm. More like control hubs. These places do not promote output of positive energy for the human, but hubs that suck this good energy from people, that's why there are so many of them.

 

[Tetromino]

I would just like to point out that India has many of these ball and spire buildings including lots of other countries, and a lot of these buildings look as though they have been petrified.

There is a video of a temple in Cambodia with what appears to be St Elmo's fire on the spire with a sound emanating from the structure.

It's hard to say whether the video is real or not but it's exactly what these buildings would be doing if they were functioning properly.

The building is called the Moonlight Pavillion.

If you go into Google Streetview you will see many similar looking buildings in the area.

 

[Silhouette]

As for this one, my god the power this must be channelling.

Hmmm, if that building is made of steel, wouldn't that just ground out the voltage? Most of the buildings we see, maybe all that we see with the antiquitech on top are made of stone. Does that work as a ground or provide a certain amount of resistance as the power goes to ground? With a steel building, wouldn't there have to be a break between the steel and the ground, from which the power would be drawn? If there were then I agree, it should pull a lot of atmospheric energy.

The fact is people knew these were places of healing even after Christianity took over and the original reason was forgotten.

Do you have any evidence that Christianity did not exist alongside these resonating towers? Is there a thread on the subject I could read?

I do think you are onto something with this thread.

There is a video of a temple in Cambodia with what appears to be St Elmo's fire on the spire with a sound emanating from the structure.

Very cool video. Did that require a special situation to function, like a storm in the neighborhood? I have to assume it didn't do that every day, all day. What might have triggered it? Is that a wooden structure? Hard to tell with all the paint. I do see two lightning rods or heavy wires leading down on both sides, in the photograph. Can't tell if they go all the way to ground. Maybe those are just to keep the structure from tipping over. On second viewing there does seem to be a storm brewing, can hear thunder. Bats are flying all around it and don't seem to mind.

 

[Jd755]

Hmmm, if that building is made of steel, wouldn't that just ground out the voltage? Most of the buildings we see, maybe all that we see with the antiquitech on top are made of stone. Does that work as a ground or provide a certain amount of resistance as the power goes to ground? With a steel building, wouldn't there have to be a break between the steel and the ground, from which the power would be drawn? If there were then I agree, it should pull a lot of atmospheric energy.

My comments of late in this thread have been deemed "disingenuous" and deleted so best wait for a qualified electrical engineer opinion.