How do you know there's a conspiracy to rewrite history? They tell you.

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Agents of the conspiracy not only admit to rewriting history but they describe how they do it in detail (albeit in the pretentious and equivocal way that professional liars admit to their lies).

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Consider, for example, this paper published by Daniela Saxer of the University of Zurich (abstract above) which describes the complicated decades-long effort in the latter half of the nineteenth century to replace documentary artifacts borrowed from archives in the Austrian empire with fradulent reproductions, as well as the methods used to overcome opposition from archivists, historians, and government actors. Saxer discloses a number of projects "in which archival objects were dislocated conceptually as well as materially in order to be stabilized and reified again in new infrastructures of research...and how the emergence of scholarly source publications accompanied a concious erasure of older contexts of meaning."

These projects were directed by a man named Theodore Von Sickel. The network of collaborators under von Sickel used "a heterogeneous array of social and political strategies to detach the historical records from the archives." These included threats "to penalize [recalcitrant archivists] by favoring other competing archivists with job offers and material resources" and bribes of "improved standing with the central administration." Archival institutions unmoved by these blandishments were accused of racism. "Such tactics," Saxer says "were exerted in an especially forceful way in the Italian lands."

Von Sickel's work entailed "a radical decontextualization of the sources in question." This process "worked selectively, by cutting out certain features" and enforced an "erasure of context" from the objects. "The historical objects under scrutiny changed their medium and form through a whole series of inscriptions. The dislocation and insertion of sources into new contexts...changed their epistemic status." These "historical documents came to be mobilized not as material objects or as integral texts, but in a derived form, as transcriptions and summaries that were then reinserted as regestae in the new order of a register," for "while the form of the regestae was predetermined in general, it still left place for subtle manipulation."

Photography provided the most effective pretext for getting the documents out of the archives. The collaborators offered to use the "glamorous" new technology to create exact replicas of archival documents that could be more easily accessed by scholars than the fragile originals. In order to preserve uniformity, however, Von Sickel insisted that all photographic work be performed in his own lab.

Unfortunately this process was somewhat destructive. "In order to photograph them, the archival objects had to be adjusted to the photographic apparatus. The parchments were flattened with the help of distilled water and squeezed under a frame of glass before being taken out of the archive to be photographed. The seals were protected by packing and sewing them into a textile cushion. In the case of codices single sheets were detached from the binding and the unity of the manuscript temporarily destroyed." These processes "affected the appearance, epistemic valence, and meaning of the mobilized written sources." Ultimately the photographs gave "a very selective view of the objects."

A constant source of frustration for the collaborators was the "juridical understanding" of archival documents that their guardians clung to. For a given archival document, this refers, for instance, to the perceived necessity of preserving "the content of its text," and making use of "official notarization" protocols in order to distinguish copies and facsimiles of archival documents from the originals. Furthermore, they "had to be careful not to offend local protagonists by questioning the worth of especially ancient and revered charters that constituted the material foundation of local narratives of origin." Provincial rubbish like that was the last sort of thing that Von Sickel's team wanted to bring into the centralized state archives, but then who wants to make grandma cry if it can be avoided?

"[Von Sickel's] erasure of context also represented a conscious reaction against the attempts at interpretation provided by the various locally anchored interest groups, especially the archivists." The truth is just one interpretation, apparently, and the least appealing, advertising as it often does one of several "no-no" qualities (such as being rural or religious in any way) which are such bad things that they devalue anything they attach to for reasons that have never been made public.

Finally, archival documents that he was not given permission to remove from the premises or examine without supervision Von Sickel determined to characterize as forgeries. Later, however, he softened his stance, generously choosing to describe them only as "spurious."

Weirdly, if we compare this paper to an article in the New York Times about someone who did the same thing—Museum Worker Sold Paintings and Put Forgeries in Their Place—we notice that the museum employee is made out to be some kind of criminal and yet the only villains in Saxer's narrative are the archivists who did their jobs. Why is that?

For people (?) like Theodore von Sickel, authenticity, fidelity, truth, knowledge, understanding, and wisdom count for absolutely nothing. History is a political tool to be revised according to the dictates of political exigency and the only constraint on its revision is what the public is willing to believe.

But they don't want to leave that up to us either. "Epistemic valence" is part of the metamodernism package of weapons being delivered to the sycophantic dupes in Academia to play with right now. Basically it means that the moral quality of a person is to be determined by their credulity and conformity. Beliefs and people are adjudged to be good ("epistemic virtue") or bad ("epistemic vice") insofar as they conform to institutional propaganda ("evidence") or not. I imagine stolenhistory is not far behind /pol/ on the epistemic vice index.

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Above: Different flavors of "epistemic vice" (from an academic philosophy journal)

According to the exponents of this doctrine, intellectual humility, openmindedness, nonconformity, skepticism of authority, and deduction from premises all lead to epistemic vice and epistemic vice is not something that is to be regarded as merely "undesirable," but something to be made impermissible. Note that along with the study of history itself, neither evidence nor epistemic valence, in this model, bears any logical or causal relation to truth (other than I guess to maybe negate it).



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Yes, when you know your audience well, you can then manipulate the show. It is easy to use people's own weaknesses and strengths against them whether it is in their face or not. Humans are pretty predictable and their capabilities in this dimension are not up to par. Anthropocentrism is the bane of our existence.
 
Yes, when you know your audience well, you can then manipulate the show. It is easy to use people's own weaknesses and strengths against them whether it is in their face or not. Humans are pretty predictable and their capabilities in this dimension are not up to par. Anthropocentrism is the bane of our existence.

It's interesting that you use "them" and "their" rather than "us" and "our." Is that because you're not human but an AI, trained to "know your audience well?"
 
It's interesting that you use "them" and "their" rather than "us" and "our." Is that because you're not human but an AI, trained to "know your audience well?"
AI, that's a good one! It must be hot where you live. That is just the way I try and separate myself from the shitbags of the world who like to manipulate others and gaslight. What i was trying to say is, the controllers of this realm know how to use all the data they have accrued over extensive amounts time, including the information they have of past civilizations and used it to their advantage.

We humans reveal everything even unintentionally and it can be used against the person(s) that divulge such information. This is absolutely obvious because we talk about it on this forum all the time, just in continuous different circumstances, it is ongoing and so is the communication that comes from us, Humans. All I was trying to say is, if you know your costumer well you will be able to sell them anything!

If I were AI I wouldn't come here to rule the world or f**k around with humans, I'd be to busy taking over the world, I guess!

And, since I have never been to your conjuring the past thing, maybe I'll take a look now. Be Well!
 
Baranets, Marasova, 2015

"Morozov preferred methodological argumentation that justifies statements through reference to reliability of method through which they were acquired. Based on statements formulated as a result of methodological argumentation, he was logically developing new statements from previously accepted ones.
And only as a third tier he used system-based argumentation, i.e. by embedding proof of his statements into the hypothesis already proven with the means decribed above.
This approach... is not adopted in the historical tradition. In the historical tradition system-based argumentation apears to be primary, when the statements' justification happens through its inclusion into the accepted theory, the conventionally approved historical reconstruction."

https://www.ulsu.ru/media/uploads/[email protected]/2018/10/21/История и теория науки.pdf
 
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Great post, thanks @emperornorton

Yes, I think they tell us. This is why I sometimes call trained historians 'licensed historians' - they have license to write and edit the past, re-frame it, write up new viewpoints, "restore" it, etc. The first time I saw the admissions of fakery was in the introductions to 'ancient' texts - the translators would basically say we had to add this, do that, etc because we had to make it rhyme, the rhythm was wrong, to correct previous editorialising, etc.

Btw, some text is bold and white in colour - the white text cannot be read if you have the light background.
 
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Online sources can straight up lie and edit history. How would you know? How do you know what we thought we knew wasn't a big lie in the first place?

Rewriting Russian History
"RuWiki, as the censors’ project is known, is mostly a straightforward copy of Wikipedia. But the most sensitive moments of history have been left out or rewritten. The Kremlin hopes that millions of Russians will now embrace these new versions as the truth."

Books are being "proofread" and then edited into an online database. What if this is done to all books? It's a matter of time when all the print books are replaced by e-books. Edited of course.

Distributed Proofreaders of Project Gutenberg

"Each page is proofread and formatted several times, and then a post-processor combines the pages and prepares the text for uploading to Project Gutenberg."
 
Great post, thanks @emperornorton

Yes, I think they tell us. This is why I sometimes call trained historians 'licensed historians' - they have license to write and edit the past, re-frame it, write up new viewpoints, "restore" it, etc. The first time I saw the admissions of fakery was in the introductions to 'ancient' texts - the translators would basically say we had to add this, do that, etc because we had to make it rhyme, the rhythm was wrong, to correct previous editorialising, etc.

Btw, some text is bold and white in colour - the white text cannot be read if you have the light background.
Oh come on feralimal, you're too harsh. How is this any different than artists touching up nasa photos? Seriously though, agreed great post.
 
Baranets, Marasova, 2015

"Morozov preferred methodological argumentation that justifies statements through reference to reliability of method through which they were acquired. Based on statements formulated as a result of methodological argumentation, he was logically developing new statements from previously accepted ones.
And only as a third tier he used system-based argumentation, i.e. by embedding proof of his statements into the hypothesis already proven with the means decribed above.
This approach... is not adopted in the historical tradition. In the historical tradition system-based argumentation apears to be primary, when the statements' justification happens through its inclusion into the accepted theory, the conventionally approved historical reconstruction."

https://www.ulsu.ru/media/uploads/[email protected]/2018/10/21/История и теория науки.pdf
Is this good or bad? I read this and then literally couldn't remember what this thread was about...history or something?...
 
Is this good or bad? I read this and then literally couldn't remember what this thread was about...history or something?...
It’s a word salad - ‘sound and fury signifying nothing’. It’s a technique commonly used by AI to distract the reader from potentially enlightening or the dangerously close to the truth posts that it’s responding to. As you experienced, it’s like spell-casting and makes you forget what you were trying to say. Best to ignore it and hopefully the algorithm will fail in the face of authenticity. The laughing emoji als works. 😂
 
It’s a word salad - ‘sound and fury signifying nothing’. It’s a technique commonly used by AI to distract the reader from potentially enlightening or the dangerously close to the truth posts that it’s responding to. As you experienced, it’s like spell-casting and makes you forget what you were trying to say. Best to ignore it and hopefully the algorithm will fail in the face of authenticity. The laughing emoji als works. 😂
Huh. Well, I don't think there is a ranch dressing anywhere on this flat thing we live on that could make me wanna eat that salad. Are you being serious about the emoji? But yeah, I just saw something called the uroboros (sp?)effect: it's when AI lacks sufficient human input and so it 'ingests' other less real sources of input or something and starts to collapse in on itself. Or something like that. Not that I have anything right this minute, but I was thinking what this thread is about, and it definitely seems to include AI, if only in the sense that it's a modern tool being used for the same purpose as some of the earlier methods described here...
 
Great post, thanks @emperornorton

Yes, I think they tell us. This is why I sometimes call trained historians 'licensed historians' - they have license to write and edit the past, re-frame it, write up new viewpoints, "restore" it, etc. The first time I saw the admissions of fakery was in the introductions to 'ancient' texts - the translators would basically say we had to add this, do that, etc because we had to make it rhyme, the rhythm was wrong, to correct previous editorialising, etc.

Btw, some text is bold and white in colour - the white text cannot be read if you have the light background.
"Court historians".
 
Is this good or bad? I read this and then literally couldn't remember what this thread was about...history or something?...
I think that may be by design. I saw a Chase Hughs video recently where he describes a technique of getting people to accept anything you say by first saying something nonsensical. The brain gets distressed at not being able to make sense out of what is said, and grasps at the first thing it hears and can make sense of. So after speaking the nonsense, the speaker will make a plain understandable assertion, and the hearers brain will accept it, simply because it relieves the mental stress that the nonsense set up.Mind manipulation, and I suspect maybe a bit of pilpul as well?
 
Is this good or bad? I read this and then literally couldn't remember what this thread was about...history or something?...
It is bad. They judge new data on the grounds of whether it fits status quo unlike Morozov who judged new data on its own merit:
Baranets, Marasova, 2015

"Morozov preferred methodological argumentation that justifies statements through reference to reliability of method through which they were acquired. Based on statements formulated as a result of methodological argumentation, he was logically developing new statements from previously accepted ones.
And only as a third tier he used system-based argumentation, i.e. by embedding proof of his statements into the hypothesis already proven with the means decribed above.
This approach... is not adopted in the historical tradition. In the historical tradition system-based argumentation apears to be primary, when the statements' justification happens through its inclusion into the accepted theory, the conventionally approved historical reconstruction."

https://www.ulsu.ru/media/uploads/[email protected]/2018/10/21/История и теория науки.pdf

It’s a word salad - ‘sound and fury signifying nothing’. It’s a technique commonly used by AI to distract the reader from potentially enlightening or the dangerously close to the truth posts that it’s responding to. As you experienced, it’s like spell-casting and makes you forget what you were trying to say. Best to ignore it and hopefully the algorithm will fail in the face of authenticity. The laughing emoji als works. 😂
But it was not AI...
 
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