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SH Archive International Space Station saga: musical oranges or didgeridoo that gorilla
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I'm losing the will to live!
"While you try to mimic what's happening on Earth -- which is so complicated if you really think about it -- we have to use systems that we can control 100 percent," said Monsi Roman, chief microbiologist for the ECLSS project at MSFC. ECLSS depends on machines -- not microbes -- because, "if a machine breaks, you can fix it."
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I'm losing the will to live!
lets not forget the Mother Of all Tangled Mysterious Purposeless Wiring Nightmares
Russia is pulling out of the ISS, so it's lucky Elon and his space car are on hand. The bit about the colour of the cosmonauts' flight suits particularly tickled me.
The cosmonauts explanation:
The language "fearing the destruction of cooperation on the ISS" had me think of dreamtime's post (making "the ISS disappear in a big disaster for the masses to mourn about this epitome of science, enlightment, technology, etc").
And they said 2010: The Year We Make Contact was dated!
The cosmonauts explanation:
The language "fearing the destruction of cooperation on the ISS" had me think of dreamtime's post (making "the ISS disappear in a big disaster for the masses to mourn about this epitome of science, enlightment, technology, etc").
And they said 2010: The Year We Make Contact was dated!
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"I have seen the ISS through the telescope, I have photographed it, (ok, it was an embarrassing photo, lol) and I have watched the space shuttle follow it while undocking. It is up there for you to see it, too."
I've also seen WHAT I AM TOLD is the ISS. To the naked eye, it's a white dot streaking through the night sky. That's all that I can know about it personally and directly.
* I don't know that this apparent object is, in fact, the alleged ISS (the one we are relentlessly told about, and the one where dozens, if not now hundreds, of anomalies and glitches have been spotted in the official videos)..
* I don't know if it's something that has or even can have humans inside it.
* I don't know its actual speed.
* I can't say what its altitude is.
What I do know is that I am told what it is, and other supposed facts about it.
What I do know is that there really is a law of perspective. I know that if you crest a hill on an interstate and get a view of a relatively straight stretch of freeway laid out in front of you that only a few miles away a giant semi-rig truck shrinks to a tiny dot in your visual field and then vanishes altogether once it gets too far away. Similarly, when you take a commercial flight and look out the window at the freeways below that these rigs again shrink to nothing as your plane ascends to its cruising altitude.
The same holds true for aircraft flying overhead. About a year ago I lingered outside watching a single engine prop plane that flew not too high up over my house. It was quite loud. As I watched it fly off into the distance the noise volume dissipated, then came in and out, and then it was silent, though I could still see it flying along at altitude. I watched it further, and watched it again shrink to a dot and then vanish entirely. Law of perspective. It wasn't descending toward an airport or anything.
The law of perspective works in all directions. A decade ago Felix Baumgartner jumped off his balloon platform said to be 24 miles up. The camera tracked him down. The white spacesuit contrasted well with the New Mexico desert, and you can see his human figure shrink down as his descent takes him downward. Eventually, it's just a small white dot. Then nothing. He's vanished, even though presumably still in the field of view. Law of perspective again.
This happens all the time. From the ground large passenger jets shrink to dots in the sky, yet they're still well into the so-called troposphere. A few miles higher, they'd be invisible, too.
NASA routinely launches "satalloons." These are probably the real satellites, but they're suspended from large balloons. Ever see one? If they're way up in the stratosphere as claimed, no you wouldn't see it. It'd be too far away. Perhaps you may get lucky and see a reflection or a brief glimpse of a reflection of sunlight?
They say that space begins abut 62 miles (100 kilometers) up at a so-called Karman line. They say that the air is too thin at that altitude to support winged flight. Perhaps.
But how'd you know that the alleged ISS is even that high up? You see a white dot with the naked eye, and maybe a winged aircraft with a camera with a zoom lens. Winged? Oh, but those are "solar panels." Yes, I would agree that that's what we're told they are. That's what we're shown in the images or cgi's.
In my discussions with NASAns (NASA supporters), the only thing that I can agree on with them is that "we are told" this or that. They themselves have no direct knowledge of anything other than what I also have direct knowledge of -- a white dot moving silently against a night sky. But not too deeply into the night! Because if the earth were a ball, at some point this white dot, unless it's self-illuminating, would be in the earth's shadow.
They are eager to remind me, and perhaps try to shame me, that they're experts or that they trust the experts and therefore so should I do so. It's argument by authority and credentials all the way down at that point. The thing is, like them, I also used to believe. Part of stolen history, however, is the manufactured history and reality of the so-called space program.
I've also seen WHAT I AM TOLD is the ISS. To the naked eye, it's a white dot streaking through the night sky. That's all that I can know about it personally and directly.
* I don't know that this apparent object is, in fact, the alleged ISS (the one we are relentlessly told about, and the one where dozens, if not now hundreds, of anomalies and glitches have been spotted in the official videos)..
* I don't know if it's something that has or even can have humans inside it.
* I don't know its actual speed.
* I can't say what its altitude is.
What I do know is that I am told what it is, and other supposed facts about it.
What I do know is that there really is a law of perspective. I know that if you crest a hill on an interstate and get a view of a relatively straight stretch of freeway laid out in front of you that only a few miles away a giant semi-rig truck shrinks to a tiny dot in your visual field and then vanishes altogether once it gets too far away. Similarly, when you take a commercial flight and look out the window at the freeways below that these rigs again shrink to nothing as your plane ascends to its cruising altitude.
The same holds true for aircraft flying overhead. About a year ago I lingered outside watching a single engine prop plane that flew not too high up over my house. It was quite loud. As I watched it fly off into the distance the noise volume dissipated, then came in and out, and then it was silent, though I could still see it flying along at altitude. I watched it further, and watched it again shrink to a dot and then vanish entirely. Law of perspective. It wasn't descending toward an airport or anything.
The law of perspective works in all directions. A decade ago Felix Baumgartner jumped off his balloon platform said to be 24 miles up. The camera tracked him down. The white spacesuit contrasted well with the New Mexico desert, and you can see his human figure shrink down as his descent takes him downward. Eventually, it's just a small white dot. Then nothing. He's vanished, even though presumably still in the field of view. Law of perspective again.
This happens all the time. From the ground large passenger jets shrink to dots in the sky, yet they're still well into the so-called troposphere. A few miles higher, they'd be invisible, too.
NASA routinely launches "satalloons." These are probably the real satellites, but they're suspended from large balloons. Ever see one? If they're way up in the stratosphere as claimed, no you wouldn't see it. It'd be too far away. Perhaps you may get lucky and see a reflection or a brief glimpse of a reflection of sunlight?
They say that space begins abut 62 miles (100 kilometers) up at a so-called Karman line. They say that the air is too thin at that altitude to support winged flight. Perhaps.
But how'd you know that the alleged ISS is even that high up? You see a white dot with the naked eye, and maybe a winged aircraft with a camera with a zoom lens. Winged? Oh, but those are "solar panels." Yes, I would agree that that's what we're told they are. That's what we're shown in the images or cgi's.
In my discussions with NASAns (NASA supporters), the only thing that I can agree on with them is that "we are told" this or that. They themselves have no direct knowledge of anything other than what I also have direct knowledge of -- a white dot moving silently against a night sky. But not too deeply into the night! Because if the earth were a ball, at some point this white dot, unless it's self-illuminating, would be in the earth's shadow.
They are eager to remind me, and perhaps try to shame me, that they're experts or that they trust the experts and therefore so should I do so. It's argument by authority and credentials all the way down at that point. The thing is, like them, I also used to believe. Part of stolen history, however, is the manufactured history and reality of the so-called space program.
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