SH Archive Moon Landing Video. Is this how it happened?

[Knowncitizen]

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Date: 2020-01-27 19:45:46
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Support without empirical evidence = faith.

I was guilty of it in my younger years, but after seeing the mountain of evidence I could no longer even watch the videos. At that point is was just comical to watch. This is a good site for evidence against the landings.

• Wagging the Moondoggie

 

[KD Archive]

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Date: 2020-01-27 19:50:44
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I was guilty of it in my younger years, but after seeing the mountain of evidence I could no longer even watch the videos. At that point is was just comical to watch. This is a good site for evidence against the landings.

• Wagging the Moondoggie

Yup, it was mentioned in one of the earlier threads on this forum:

• Wagging the Moondoggie by David McGowan

 

[HollyHoly]

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Date: 2020-01-27 20:33:41
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I made a thread about spacesuits being just 'Cargo Cult" imitations of diving suits. and the moon landing is no different, I think the reason for faking it is simply that the paperclip crowd had literally 'promised the moon' to the ignorant politicians and tax payers and felt like they had to pony up soooo... they"wagged the dog". They've been faking everything ever since they didn't drive a dune buggy on the Moon they didn't make six trips to Moon park their Lander go golfing and zip back, without a hitch, smooth sailing no worries EVERY TIME!!! and nobody had to pee or puked in their space helmet,or sprung a leak while driving the buggy over the gray dusty hills. Everything NASA says about their missions contradicts itself on every level, which is it ? a walk in the park ? or a life and death gamble requiring constant ground to space monitoring and the most absorbent Depends that every nursing home dreams of, but all we have here on Earth are regular Depends because NASA keeps all the really good tech to themselves.

 

[pushamaku]

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Date: 2020-01-27 23:21:51
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Did you post this before you knew he was dead?

After. I saw this cartoon that supposedly predicted his death and some peanuts led me to a this video that I thought was relevant.

 

[Felix Noille]

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Username: Felixnoille
Date: 2020-01-28 09:31:21
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I watched the first Moon landing live. I could see the silhouettes of normal people moving around in the shadowed areas supposedly on the Moon and from that point on I knew it was all fake. I've never seen that footage since, which is hardly surprising really...

 

[Knowncitizen]

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Date: 2020-01-28 16:00:14
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I watched the first Moon landing live. I could see the silhouettes of normal people moving around in the shadowed areas supposedly on the Moon and from that point on I knew it was all fake. I've never seen that footage since, which is hardly surprising really...

Shh! you're showing your age!
I wasn't born when they allegedly did it but looking at the original now reminds me of a kids show I used to watch:

 

[usselo]

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Date: 2020-06-01 09:22:58
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Do we have an explanation of why russians remained silent if the moon landing was a hoax (i am convinced it was)?

We have possible explanations. See:

SH post 28639
and
SH post 30276

 

[Felix Noille]

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Date: 2020-06-01 10:25:17
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We have possible explanations. See:

SH post 28639
and
SH post 30276

Also, the Russians were as keen to keep the whole Moon/Space hoax going as anyone else was/is I suppose. No doubt they didn't want the Americans throwing stones at their Sputnik greenhouse either.

 

[usselo]

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Date: 2020-06-01 14:16:07
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Sputnik greenhouse?
I agree this is the most likely reason.
As to @usselo ‘s answer - I am guessing that ussr knew the truth whether they went or didn’t, so since we assume that they did not go I guess felixnoille is right, but I have never seen a more elaborate explanation/theory which bothers me.

The upper two sections of my list of links took me some time to read and then more time to think about. After doing that, one of my conclusions was that their reasons for staying silent were hard to understand because their reactions/non-reactions involved ways of thinking, and power/wealth concerns, that are not a part of my life. This is what I was hinting at when I used the word 'elite' in my post. The Soviet elite may have been 'red', or 'Russian', or 'Soviet' or 'Communist' or whatever label one prefers to apply, but they were doing what elites do.

What do elites do? Well, what does our own lived experience tell us? It varies for each of us, of course, but the overall picture of what they do clearly does not fit neatly in the 'democracy', 'care for the interests of the people', or even 'care for the interests of the country' frames that we think of their actions as fitting into.

What might this mean in the context of the Apollo fraud? It means that the Soviet elite may simply have been on the take and were offered large bank deposits in non-USSR accounts. Or they may have been offered cooperation that helped them to maintain power and thus helped them maintain their own daily take from the people they control, manage, harvest, represent.

Or any blend of the above.

Or the whole layer (or layers) of elites in all countries and in the extra-country groupings may broadly know that there is mud all over the shop, how it got there, when it got there, and why. And, as a result of that, their motives for what they do and don't do are entirely orthogonal to what we might think.

In short, I think they are playing a completely different ballgame than the game we were brought up to think they are playing and therefore their doings are somewhat incomprehensible, regardless of what we read or how dilligently we read it.

The links in that post to analyses by the Soviet rocket engineers are probably more in line with contexts in which we non-elites think. But again, they can only offer part of the picture.

I do think there is a gain for us in taking on these seemingly frustrating challenges though. It is: that as we - individually and together - exercise our minds against these problems, our minds become better able to function.

Funnily enough, a day after posting this I happened to hear Brothers of the Serpent podcast quoting The Gods of Eden by William Bramley, who was himself quoting Charles Fort's Book of the Dammed. Just as a thought experiment about why elites might act as they do (and don't), here's the quote:

I think we're property.
I should say we belong to something:
That once upon a time, this earth was No-man's Land,
that other worlds explored and colonized here, and
fought among themselves for possession, but that now
it's owned by something:
That something owns this earth—all others warned
off.
...
I suspect that, after all, we're useful—that among
contesting claimants, adjustment has occurred, or that
something now has a legal right to us, by force, or by
having paid out analogues of beads for us to former,
more primitive, owners of us — that all of this has been
known, perhaps for ages, to certain ones upon this
earth, a cult or order, members of which function like bellwethers to the rest of us, or as superior slaves or
overseers, directing us in accordance with instructions
received—from Somewhere else—in our mysterious
usefulness.

Charles Fort, The Book of the Damned, from The Books of Charles Fort (New York, Henry Holt & Co., 1941), p. 163

 

[Felix Noille]

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Date: 2020-06-02 09:12:59
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Sputnik greenhouse?

Sorry, it refers to the saying, "People who live in glasshouses shouldn't throw stones." In other words, they kept quiet because they didn't want their own 'space adventures' too closely examined.

 

[Whitewave]

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Date: 2020-06-02 19:07:06
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I wonder if the current demonizing of China doesn't have something to do with the space program.

We might can trust the Russians to keep their mouths shut regarding the fake space narrative but China may blow the whole thing wide open.
With the current animosity towards China, both the Russians and USA could claim CCP propaganda and/or sour grapes dismissing their claims. If nothing else, it would at least serve as a distraction while the world tried to figure out which side was lying.

 

[Archive]

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Date: 2020-06-03 01:00:12
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Its common knowledge now that Stanley Kubrick was tasked with filming the moon landing scenario in exchange for some camera equipment nasa had to film 2001 a space odyssey. Hollywood continued to mock the general public by including scenes in certain movies of film crews filming the moon landing... The most obvious one being in a James bond film where Roger Moore is running after a bad guy through a movie studio... I think the movie was diamonds are forever.. Don't quote me.

If a certain brilliant director did direct it, then you might expect the director to film a similar movie beforehand, and maybe take ages to do it, maybe develop new techniques, then to direct a quick small budget directly afterwards to cover his tracks. This is exactly what happened.

1968 Space Odyssey (took 5 years to make), developed a new technique called 'Front Screen Projection'
1969 Moon Landing
1971 Clockwork Orange (he even stated he wanted to make a quick film)

Is Front Screen Projection apparent in the Moon landings film? Methology for FSP

Different shadow angles

You would also expect this director to be chosen for his acute attention to detail (this is what Kubrick is specifically known for)

You might half expect a director to leave subtle clues in a later film(s). This is exactly what happened with the Shining. The Shining was released 11 years after 1969 in 1980 (ie Apollo 11). How far to the moon? what do astronauts drink? What do the landing pads look like? It's all there.


Then you have strange things like changing room numbers for the film, room numbers that were different in the book. The famous scene with the young women ageing in the bathroom takes place in room number 237. Now, the considered distance to the moon is apparently somewhere between 237,000 to 241,000 miles (I believe the considered distance has changed over the years). The original number in the book was 217. The laughable reason for the change was apparently that the hotel management where the film was made didn't want to spook their own customers out as the hotel did indeed have a room 217, but not a room 237. Convincing?


Then you have one of the best scenes from the Shining, where Nicholson is going mad and endlessly typing out the following line on his typewriter.

"A11 rest and no play makes Jack a dull boy". Is that an 'All' or a A11 for Apollo 11?

Nice Jumper!!


Tang cans


launch pads


Room 237


Throwing stuff at Rockets

If the above coincidences all seem a bit strange, then did Kubrick also try to leave hints in some of his other films about the real world ; maybe Eyes Wide Shut??

One thing I haven't been able to find in terms of image is an aerial shot of the parking lot.

Apparently, the cars visible in the parking lot during an aerial shot of the hotel are arranged in groups of 7, 21, 6, and 9 -- or July 21, 1969. If this is true, then that is a bizarre coincidence, or maybe not?

 

[Archive]

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Date: 2020-06-03 03:18:12
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I wonder if the current demonizing of China doesn't have something to do with the space program.

We might can trust the Russians to keep their mouths shut regarding the fake space narrative but China may blow the whole thing wide open.
With the current animosity towards China, both the Russians and USA could claim CCP propaganda and/or sour grapes dismissing their claims. If nothing else, it would at least serve as a distraction while the world tried to figure out which side was lying.

Countries and governments aren't monolithic with one precise goal or agenda or mindset. I have no idea who in the individual governments is even wise to the whole space thing. This is all compounded by "external" non-state interests. In the USA, the corporate influence is clear. Basically, it seems like a lot of the monetary benefit of the con may come from interests' in the private sector. At first glance, it seems like that raises the obvious question about why the Chinese government would even have a space program in the first place, but it is the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation that largely profits off of space there. It's "state-owned", but as a corporation, it still exists to perpetuate its further existence and there's enough money in it to make it very lucrative for some. Also, maybe some in the Chinese government think there is some sort of tactical, blackmail-like advantages to holding this over other countries' heads.

Nothing is simple. It's possible on some level that most governments agree that space exploration is a wonderful population control device. I know I've cited this before, but it's an amazing quote that's stuck in my head since I first read it:

"Some countries build cathedrals," said John Pike. "We have a space program."

It's also possible that simply not a large enough percentage of the people controlling governments, even including ones at the very top, know about the space fraud to truly investigate. It's possible that some do but realize that outing fake space programs could unleash a maelstrom that would take down the whole rest of the infrastructure of civilization. It's possible that all the space agencies (and governments) are literally part of one master cult with some nefarious agenda.

Frankly, all of these things are probably true to some degree.

 

[Archive]

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Date: 2020-06-03 03:41:50
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Sputnik greenhouse?
I agree this is the most likely reason.
As to @usselo ‘s answer - I am guessing that ussr knew the truth whether they went or didn’t, so since we assume that they did not go I guess felixnoille is right, but I have never seen a more elaborate explanation/theory which bothers me.

What if russia too was part of ellites group psyop
?

 

[Felix Noille]

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Date: 2020-06-03 10:32:19
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Countries and governments aren't monolithic with one precise goal or agenda or mindset. I have no idea who in the individual governments is even wise to the whole space thing. This is all compounded by "external" non-state interests. In the USA, the corporate influence is clear. Basically, it seems like a lot of the monetary benefit of the con may come from interests' in the private sector. At first glance, it seems like that raises the obvious question about why the Chinese government would even have a space program in the first place, but it is the China Aerospace Science and Technology Corporation that largely profits off of space there. It's "state-owned", but as a corporation, it still exists to perpetuate its further existence and there's enough money in it to make it very lucrative for some. Also, maybe some in the Chinese government think there is some sort of tactical, blackmail-like advantages to holding this over other countries' heads.

Nothing is simple. It's possible on some level that most governments agree that space exploration is a wonderful population control device. I know I've cited this before, but it's an amazing quote that's stuck in my head since I first read it:

"Some countries build cathedrals," said John Pike. "We have a space program."

It's also possible that simply not a large enough percentage of the people controlling governments, even including ones at the very top, know about the space fraud to truly investigate. It's possible that some do but realize that outing fake space programs could unleash a maelstrom that would take down the whole rest of the infrastructure of civilization. It's possible that all the space agencies (and governments) are literally part of one master cult with some nefarious agenda.

Frankly, all of these things are probably true to some degree.

You make some excellent points. It makes me realise that the result of so much historical deception and manipulation is actual changes to our reality. At the moment we are all dealing with another mass deception that is desperately trying to change reality again (although many people aren't dealing with it unfortunately.) In comparison to some of the other deceptions that have been unmasked on this forum, it's pretty minor, but it serves as a measure of just how deeply rooted cognitive dissonance is within the general population. Scientists are The Reality Police, they devise illusions to keep us convinced that something is 'real.' The Media casts the spell through the hypnotic screen and their tabloids. The public gives it consent through their belief and ¡hey-presto! a new reality is born.

I have a suspicion that people know that they have been fooled deep down and when they are presented with evidence to confirm it they react against it violently, because 'reality' constitutes so many deceptions that its whole foundation is totally insecure and therefore people are basically totally insecure. When their fake, but comfortable illusions are threatened it literally becomes a life threatening situation for them. I would even go so far as to say that, in certain cases, people will knowingly conform to a deception because it gives them some kind of comfort and security which reinforces the insecure foundation of their reality.

Apologies, a bit off-topic really, but it applies equally to the Moon Landings deception - to which I am forever indebted, because if I hadn't seen the hoax with my own eyes as child on TV I might never have seen through all the other deceptions... and yes, they did have TV when I was a child

 

[Just]

What always got me about fake space is every country needs to be in on it. That being said the same fake space inconsistencies appear in all videos from all countries.

I guess they all like their space programs budget. I think that could be the only thing holding it together.

Definitely in it for the money. Didn’t China go to the moon last year to get moon rock? I saw footage and I swear they were laughing. Now I’m wondering if this really happened! But it seems clear to me that it’s the inevitable result of the discovery made post-war that there’s a firmament in place so we can’t go anywhere and there is no space. At that point NASA was established and the UN with its flat earth logo. How could they possibly tell us? So they started faking footage and getting Russia and China onboard. Didn’t Iran plan to send a rocket up just before the world locked down along with the flat earth cruise which would have published its results? The only way they can cover this up is another reset - do they do this on a regular basis when the lies all get too ridiculous? All the adult population gone would do it.

 

[Jd755]

The only way they can cover this up is another reset

Just announce a heath scare and bingo everything is forgotten. That sadly is how easy it is to control most of the people most of the time. Resets are simply not a thing.