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Username: ripvanwillie
Date: 2020-06-27 09:10:28
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KD this is a powerful post!, and I feel it is the keystone to your entire stolen history hypothesis.
As (the mythical?) Alaine de Lille said “a thousand roads lead men forever to Rome.” It's all about Rome. And who is one of our top Roman chroniclers from the first century? This guy.
Yosef ben Matityahu aka,
Titus Flavius Josephus. 
Josephus - Wikipedia
If you read the wiki article, you'll find he was a traitor to his own people. Some Jews have banished his work. But, he was a hero to the Romans, and was responsible for a good deal of their early history. It was Josephus who gave us the most detailed account of the sacking of Jeruselum in 70 ad. And in his writings, he also mentions the eruption of mt. Vesuvius.
If you push him forward to the probable eruption date you found in the 15th century, that means Jesus, if there actually was such a person, moves into the 14-15th century. And the sacking of Jerusalem into the 15th century. And this guy, perhaps the most important of all to us now, came around in the 16th century to tell us all about his-story.
Joseph Justus Scaliger. Joseph Justus Scaliger - Wikipedia
And when you also take into account that the letter J didn't exist until that era, it explains why the name Jesus appeared at that time. No need for all those stories of his supposed "Jewish" name(s).
J - Wikipedia
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As an interesting side note, while J is the fourth least used letter in our modern English alphabet, behind z,q,and x, it is commonly used in names, according to this Wiki article. Jesus, James, Jeremiah, etc. And where do those names come from? You guessed it, the Roman Bible. There are over two hundred Biblical names beginning with the letter J! That is an awful lot of names beginning with a letter that was born in the 16th century, in a book supposedly written over a thousand years prior. That is a lot of names to change! Why bother? And of course, the letter J is of Roman origin.
Can all this simply be coincidence?
Then the use of it in dating, as proposed by Anatoly Fomenko, to add a thousand years to the date of medieval documents and art. And we can't forget Julius Caesar, the original Antichrist, who supposedly lived 100 BC to 44 BC. And what of his Julian calendar which was replaced by the Gregorian calendar? Yeah, that happened in the 1582.
List of biblical names starting with J - Wikipedia
And this guy,
and his cohorts are probably the ones who made up the whole New Testament story just a few years before it all happened(?). "A.D. 1381-1382 -
John Wycliffe and associates, in defiance of the organized Church, believing that people should be permitted to read the Bible in their own language, begin to translate and produce the first handwritten manuscripts of the entire Bible in English. These include the 39 Old Testament books, 27 New Testament books, and 14 Apocrypha books." Prior to that, and probably many years after, only the clergy had access to these "sacred books." The novel was written, but had to be published later to create the timeline. (Sorry to the Christians here, it's not meant as an insult to your beliefs, but it's a road well traveled for many others, including your's truly). Apparently there are full surviving copies, but we aren't allowed to see them and it's doubtful anyone ever has.
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The first printed bibles came out not long after. This fits better than OJ Simpsons glove!
Trace the Complete History of the Bible
*Side note. I studied for a while at Wycliffe bible translators, who claim to be the oldest corporation in the world, ongoing since the 14th century. The translators are Hasidic Jews and Muslim scholars. The only Christian working there at the time (1980's) was the PR guy, i.e., salesman! He bragged about how they have translated the entire bible, a book with over 750,000 words, into a language that has only 82 words. Can you say, horse shite? That is why I am no longer an Xtian. But, that's a story for another time.
And just look at the date this old rag was supposedly found.
1390 AD. Cinderella would be jealous of this fit!
Shroud of Turin - Wikipedia
And as you mentioned, the other important chroniclers of the 1st? century were these guys.
And as you point out, they also fit nicely into that later timeline.
Pliny the Younger: The first - incomplete - edition of Pliny's Epistles was published in Italy in 1471. Sometime between 1495 and 1500 Giovanni Giocondo discovered a manuscript in Paris of Pliny's tenth book of letters, containing his correspondence with Trajan, and published it in Paris, dedicating the work to Louis XII. More on his manuscripts can be had here. Frivolously dated to whatever, located in 15th century. Pliny the Elder: they made it real hard to find out when the first copies of the non-existent ancient originals were located. I am yet to see one located prior to 1400 AD. I have a feeling that Poggio Bracciolini had something to do with finding the very first known copies of Pliny the Elder.
Now for the science connection. Radio carbon dating is the most popular system to science believers, but it only works(?) on organic materials like wood and bone. Other methods of dating are more important to actual researchers because they are believed to be more accurate and can be used on rocks. I'm talking primarily of argon-argon dating.
In an article from UC Berkeley, " A powerful geologic dating technique called argon-argon dating has pegged the 79 A.D. eruption of Vesuvius so precisely that it establishes one of the most solid and reliable anchors for any dating method."
The article continues, "to everyone's surprise the date given by the argon-argon dating technique was 1,925 years ago -- off by only seven years. The scientific error on the estimate was plus or minus 94 years. We nailed the date to five percent on our first attempt, so we could probably get the error down to one percent or less."
Well if we extrapolate those numbers with the 1482 date, we find argon-argon dating is either terrible inaccurate, or is being used mathematically in an intentionally erroneous equation to give us extreme distances in the chronology of our world, ergo universe. It may however, given the right numbers, give us the true baseline. But, that would take a real mathematician, well beyond my pay grade.
The article concludes, "With such validation, the radioactive argon dating technique now can reliably establish the age of rocks as old as the solar system or as young as 2,000 years, say researchers from the University of California at Berkeley and the
Berkeley Geochronology Center." Why did they choose 2,000 years for the young date? It should be obvious since the article was written in 1997.
"Argon-argon dating is by far the most important technique in documenting the history of human evolution, and this new result is an important validation of the technique," says Paul Renne, adjunct associate professor of geology and geophysics at UC Berkeley and director of the privately funded Berkeley Geochronology Center. The center has used the argon-argon method to date many recent important fossil finds, from the highly touted human ancestor dubbed "Lucy" and the major Ethiopian discoveries of UC Berkeley anthropologist Tim White to Homo erectus remains from Java. Argon-argon dating also has been used to establish the age of meteorites several billion years old, mass extinctions, climate changes and other geologic events in the last several hundred million years."
08.28.97 - Precise dating of the destruction of Pompeii proves argon-argon method can reliably date rocks as young as 2,000 years
By moving the eruption of Mt. Vesuvius to the 1st century AD, we not only push our history far into the past, thus disconnecting us with our true heritage and possible savior, but we also can now use this false information to come up with the ridiculous dates of fake(?) dino-fossils, Homo non-sapiens, and the earths timeline to unthinkable chronological distances, thus completing and confirming our false history using the new pseudo-religion of science. (How's that for a run-on sentence?)
If we knew how recent this all happened, it would be far easier for us to come up with the group courage necessary to resist our enslavement to the modern Romans and their church. The fake battle between the church and science can also be explained.
So, I don't feel I really add much to this discussion other than to connect a few more dots and verify its importance. I'll bet the more we work on this the more things will magically fit.
The modern Romans have been working hard to build up a false history to the great extent of even making modern fake ruins, fossils, and artifacts!
This will be the most valuable tool for regaining power after the next reset. They will have the writings and the fake ruins to back up their "divine" right to enslave us all over again, once our survivors crawl out of the caves.
Maybe our popular Jewish singer-songwriter Mr. Zimmerman was using double-speak when he moaned out the lyrics to "The Times They Are A-Changin'."
Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'
Come writers and critics
Who prophesize with your pen
And keep your eyes wide
The chance won't come again
And don't speak too soon
For the wheel's still in spin
And there's no tellin' who
That it's namin'
For the loser now
Will be later to win
For the times they are a-changin'
Come senators, congressmen
Please heed the call
Don't stand in the doorway
Don't block up the hall
For he that gets hurt
Will be he who has stalled
There's a battle outside
And it is ragin'
It'll soon shake your windows
And rattle your walls
For the times they are a-changin'
Come mothers and fathers
Throughout the land
And don't criticize
What you can't understand
Your sons and your daughters
Are beyond your command
Your old road is
Rapidly agin'
Please get out of the new one
If you can't lend your hand
For the times they are a-changin'
The line it is drawn
The curse it is cast
The slow one now
Will later be fast
As the present now
Will later be past
The order is
Rapidly fadin'
And the first one now
Will later be last
For the times they are a-changin'.
Ok, after sitting up all night long writing this, I just wanted to throw a little Dylan in there for fun.
So I think this newly found document, real or not, may be the linchpin to the whole story.
I hope this helps.
