Questionable Ancient Egypt megathread

[trismegistus]

We already have a thread for quick links and discussions, but I might as well pop it in here.

The Strange Emptiness of Egypt in 19th-Century European Photographs

I'm not particularly sure why articles like this are published - they often seek to answer a question too obscure to make me wonder someone feels the need to answer it in the first place. In this case: why are all the old pics of Egyptian sites so empty?

In the 1850s, when he was in his early 20s, John Beasley Greene packed up his equipment and headed to Egypt. From Alexandria, the young photographer lugged his supplies onto a ship bound for Cairo, and then transferred to a smaller, private vessel that could navigate the Nile’s cataracts. Greene, born in France to wealthy American parents, would go on to visit Egypt twice in total—each time, training his lens on monumental structures, sweeping swaths of desert, and the go-on-forever sky.

Greene was “probably the first photographer we know of who was trained archaeologically,” says Frederick Bohrer, an art historian at Hood College in Maryland, and the author of Photography and Archaeology.

In the 19th century, the two disciplines lurched toward a kind of maturity together. Earlier excavations had begun to investigate Stonehenge and other English megaliths, as well as the ash-covered ruins of Pompeii. But for the most part, like the medium of photography, archaeology—at least as it was practiced in Egypt, by Europeans—was an invention of the 1800s. Before that, enthusiasts of history were known as antiquarians, and many were just as invested in sifting through libraries as through dirt.

I always wonder why it is that everyone waited for the Europeans to show up to excavate ancient sites. Did the Egyptians not really concern themselves with the giant megaliths they could see poking out of the rubble?

The switch to the shovels-in-the-ground approach of archaeology happened just before the middle of the 19th century, and by the time Greene first went to Egypt, scientific societies had begun to see photography as a useful research tool for the new field. Drawing, painting, and engraving had worked well enough for the many hundreds of plates and maps in the Description de l’Égypte, the sprawling tome compiled by Napoleon’s brigade of scientists at the end of the 18th century, but the techniques were hugely labor-intensive.


“To copy the millions of hieroglyphics which cover even the exterior of the great monuments of Thebes, Memphis, Karnak, and others would require decades of time and legions of draftsmen,” grumbled mathematician and physicist François Arago, who tried to persuade his peers at the Académie des Sciences that photography was the cataloguing tool of the future. The Académie des Inscriptions et Belles-Lettres agreed, Keller writes, and dispatched Du Camp to Egypt, with instructions to “take advantage of every favorable moment” and “to always apply himself, as much as location and time permits, to complete the general views and the details of a monument, whether an entire legend of a complete hieroglyphic tablet.” The idea was to capture everything he could.

And yet looking through the collection I can access on the internet, it is pretty sparse of detail.

But with some background out of the way, this is the part I find most interesting.

It’s not that it was impossible to include people in images. Exposure times could be less than a minute (but were often much longer), meaning that while movement was impossible to capture as anything other than a blurry, ghostly streak, subjects could sit, stand, or sprawl long enough to show up clearly. But even when figures are present in the images, Press points out, Greene’s captions ignore them. An 1854 image featuring a clearly defined, contemporary structure and blurry figure is titled “Etudes de dattiers” (or “Studies of Date Palms”), Press notes, “as if the person and their domicile were invisible or incidental.”


Some contemporary scholars suspect that Greene’s compositions were informed by artistic choice, and the European perspective that sidelined or erased indigenous residents of other countries. His sweeping landscapes borrowed from the atmospheric style of his teacher Gustave Le Gray, who pioneered a technique of waxed paper negatives and salted paper prints, Press writes. But portraying these landscapes as vast and empty also affirmed a colonial agenda, suggesting that that these were places just waiting for Europeans to stroll in and make their mark.

Now we begin with the 21st century mind virus woke historical revision. That eerie sense that these photos were taken in a place long abandoned, in complete ruins as if destroyed and completely forgotten by time, and more importantly by its own citizens? Forget that, all you are seeing is a bunch of racist Europeans trying to get the brown people out of their photos. Never mind that there are clear photos he took with locals excavating a site (which is even featured in this article).

“Photographs like these are engaging with conventions of artistic representation in many areas of the world, and the Middle East in particular, that were being seen as empty spaces ripe for Europeans to go in and give meaning to,” says Christina Riggs, a historian of archaeology, photography, and ancient Egyptian art at Durham University and a fellow at Oxford’s All Souls College. “Colonialism is a crucial factor in considering the circumstances in which such photographs were being made in the first place.” Later photos taken by the English photographer Francis Frith featured many more people, but they were there for scale, as proxies for traveling Europeans or armchair adventurers, or as local representations of the titillating and ‘exotic,’ Keller writes.

I'm not really sure that I'm understanding how a megalithic site so vast in scale is seen as an "empty space ripe to give meaning to". This place is anything but empty. That said, I don't necessarily disagree with the sentiment that it was ripe to give a narrative to. It makes me wonder if the very concept of Colonialism is a way to "bury" the reset narrative behind European White Male Racism. At the very least, it seems to give these "archeologists" and "professors" a way of coping with the strange look of Egypt in the 19th century.

As archaeology and photography continued to develop in tandem, Bohrer explains, crews would sometimes literally sweep aside the people who lived in a place before they photographed it. At the Acropolis in Athens, he says, archaeologists removed homes, military barracks, and a mosque before snapping photographs. A site “never looks the way it did when these photographs were taken,” he says.

How do they know this? The only way to know for sure is that there were two sets of pictures taken - one before and after "setting the scene". Yet as far as I can find, these things don't exist.

The caption of this photo reads:

Greene’s photographs of homes in Cairo don’t include many traces of the people who lived there.

It is difficult to track the exact population of Cairo in the 1850s, at least through english sources. 20th century Britannicas say the population was somewhere around 200k in 1800, as to how to extrapolate another 50 years of growth I'm not sure. My only experience with Cairo was in the early 2000s, and it was overwhelmingly populated.

There is an archived post that lists a large scale earthquake in Cairo in 1754, where 40k died.

https://stolenhistory.net/threads/khedive-period-architecture-in-cairo-egypt.5193/post-72594

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And finally, a few more little nuggets.

Greene’s life was short, and details about him are hard to come by. Many of his photographs were exhibited before he died of an illness in Cairo in 1856, at the age of 24, but then his work “languished in almost total obscurity for a hundred years,” Keller writes. It was dusted off in the 1970s and 1980s “as part of a resurgent interest in the medium’s early history.”

It should be obvious to anyone who has been doing research on these topics that these figures who are so "important" to history are more obscure than the history itself.

Why were these photos "dusted off" in the 70s and 80s? Does this line up with the rise in popularity of historical criticism in the vein of Fomenko and historical timeline revision?

 

[Otto_Didactic]

I've been following the Tzolkin calendar for about 3 or 4 years now after finding Ian Xel Lungold work & his Mayan Majix site , I absolutely swear by it . I don't know if it the same as you use nevertheless do you know what type of cataclysm is predicted this time ?

Im familiar with the Mayan Majix site, I dont think its up anymore but I had to take a screenshot for an article and found it on the wayback machine. mayan majix tricksters
These guys are totally a military intel front, probs why they arent up anymore. All that talk about evolution is a giveaway, New Agey, Soul (Sol) evolution revolution is Sun worship, along with the pyramid itself. The spiral is an MK Ultra sigil, like the butterfly. The Mayan Calendar stone only supports NASA Space fuckery, its a modern hoax. The old chinese observatories are the same. To make it appear as if the ancients were so far advanced blah blah blah. Its BS. Like I saw someone mention the Dogon tribe. So the Normie narrative says they had secret knowledge of far away sirusB, how could they do it? Well did you take into consideration the person that told you about the ethno-tourist trap was some French guy from the British Museum or something, (if he was french it'd've been the Louvre) again this serves to prop up nasa Space lies.
I came across Mayan Majix bc they published a supposed scientific analysis of chemtrail particulates and determined chemtrails arent a health concern. GTFOH. also, the double M's rotate to 33, another intel mark.
The thing about ancient culture tablets and extinct languages is any ol Spook can say anything and who can prove them wrong? Its not like you can cross reference check him. That guy could be publishing his last nights fortune cookie message saying its an ancient prophecy, which he probs is. I hate to be a turd in the punch bowl but someone had to say it.

I always wonder why it is that everyone waited for the Europeans to show up to excavate ancient sites. Did the Egyptians not really concern themselves with the giant megaliths they could see poking out of the rubble?

Good observation, the Europeans always seem to show up to do the excavations bc they are the ones staging the dig sites, theyre all fake archeological sites to support illegitimate claims to generational wealth and authority. South America, Asia, Africa... All over the world the same gatekeeper institutions collaborate with media to publish scripted ancient cultures that never really existed. I have a dedicated essay for King Tut im posting here in the next comment or two that might help clarify.

I'm not particularly sure why articles like this are published - they often seek to answer a question too obscure to make me wonder someone feels the need to answer it in the first place. In this case: why are all the old pics of Egyptian sites so empty?

bro, they are published with a dumbed down headscratcher conclusion, the question is not too obscure for an answer, thats called fluoridosis, even if it was only Egypt, which the phenomenon is world wide. My surprize is that they would even point it out in the first place, 99% of articles just pretend it isnt there and if you notice something you are the one that crazy. You have a recurring theme of empty cities all over the world and you arent particularly sure why somebody would seek an answer?

That eerie sense that these photos were taken in a place long abandoned, in complete ruins as if destroyed and completely forgotten by time, and more importantly by its own citizens? Forget that, all you are seeing is a bunch of racist Europeans trying to get the brown people out of their photos.

Thats probs the most thoughtful and intelligent reply Ive come across, "racist Europeans trying to get the Brownies..." , Yeah, thats all it is for sure.
Forget your boy Greens, the pinnacle of Egyptian tourist trap history is King Tut tomb, its a total fabrication, staged by the Metro Museum of Art, San Fran Art Museums, the dig is funded by a stag that was banging an illegitimate Rothschilds daughter. The British Museum deals almost exclusively in frauds. The idea of one-upmanship in the headlines is nothing new, the 'discovery' of Tut came right after the discovery of Nineveh (Babylon) started winding down.
The official photographer was provided by the elite robber barons in America and he was trained by Meyers in Hollywood, as in Metro Goldwyn Meyers, MGM Studios. Because it was all a production.
Here, I got extended bios on almost everyone involved.
King Tut is a hoax

"...as well as the ash-covered ruins of Pompeii But for the most part, like the medium of photography, archaeology—at least as it was practiced in Egypt, by Europeans—was an invention of the 1800s. Before that, enthusiasts of history were known as antiquarians, and many were just as invested in sifting through libraries as through dirt."

How do they know this? The only way to know for sure is that there were two sets of pictures taken - one before and after "setting the scene". Yet as far as I can find, these things don't exist

Again the source is a professional in both photography and archeology, he knows their all fake but he cant say it, the best thing he can come with is that everything inside the staging area is removed. Thats plausible, we are talking about controlling the narrative and thus, the world. Its not out of possibility and in fact should be expected that this wold happen so the gatekeepers can get their shots but the truth is occams razor, nobody went through all that bullcrap. the cities are empty and the dates are incorrect. The thing that gets me is how often ppl accuse a source for lying in one breath but credit them as accurate the next, They're lying about history but they wouldnt put the wrong year on a photo album? Am I missing something?
So howd they get Ghost City Edinburgh?

photography made its way to archeo digs immediately bc thats the reason the tech was developed, partly; the other part was proxy wars , but the end-game is the same, control of history. It ties into why its so important to ask why all the cities were ghosted all over the world. They sifted through libraries bc books controlled the narratives and they wrote the books. Most field reports were written by whoever and just had the professional name stamped on the cover for prestige, those rich bitches never stepped foot in the desert or jungle. Its a Classist system more than Racist. With the camera now they had a new tech to provide fake images to go with the fake field reports. Seeing is believing right? Fake digs and wars are part of the Psychological Class warfare waged on all of us.
For just one example, these are the official dig photos of Nineveh. Is there anything remotely realistic looking about these? Heck no and every culture from the Incan to the Vikings look like this
thats why the photographer on the king tut mission was trained by the spooks in hollywood

I got Pompeii too, another staged archeo site but what makes this significant was the alleged volcanic eruption is a euphemism for the biblical Sodom with the fire and brimstone falling from the sky. and thats not the only similarity, whats Pompeii mostly remembered for? the debauchery; mosaics, brothels... Pompeii was either complete fabricated to match the old testament or actual ruins were modified and buried on purpose. not an unfamiliar concept, they say the new place Gobekli tepe was intensionally buried. I havent looked but thats an indication its fake. the academics act too stupid to consider thats an option. In fact, you can say anything you want EXCEPT its a fake. That should be a red flag right there. If its such a crazy notion why cant anyone shoot it down?
I wont show the whole fresco out of good taste but Im sure you can imagine what the two are doing. Does either of them look particularly feminine to you? This isnt the only one either, out of 20 frescos maybe 19 are male and male, thats bc they are staging Sodom, as in sodomy. its in the link.

Pompeii is the O.G. Sodom and Gomorrah

 

[TheHangedMan]

Im familiar with the Mayan Majix site, I dont think its up anymore but I had to take a screenshot for an article and found it on the wayback machine. mayan majix tricksters
These guys are totally a military intel front, probs why they arent up anymore. All that talk about evolution is a giveaway, New Agey, Soul (Sol) evolution revolution is Sun worship, along with the pyramid itself. The spiral is an MK Ultra sigil, like the butterfly. The Mayan Calendar stone only supports NASA Space fuckery, its a modern hoax. The old chinese observatories are the same. To make it appear as if the ancients were so far advanced blah blah blah. Its BS. Like I saw someone mention the Dogon tribe. So the Normie narrative says they had secret knowledge of far away sirusB, how could they do it? Well did you take into consideration the person that told you about the ethno-tourist trap was some French guy from the British Museum or something, (if he was french it'd've been the Louvre) again this serves to prop up nasa Space lies.
I came across Mayan Majix bc they published a supposed scientific analysis of chemtrail particulates and determined chemtrails arent a health concern. GTFOH. also, the double M's rotate to 33, another intel mark.
The thing about ancient culture tablets and extinct languages is any ol Spook can say anything and who can prove them wrong? Its not like you can cross reference check him. That guy could be publishing his last nights fortune cookie message saying its an ancient prophecy, which he probs is. I hate to be a turd in the punch bowl but someone had to say it.

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Good observation, the Europeans always seem to show up to do the excavations bc they are the ones staging the dig sites, theyre all fake archeological sites to support illegitimate claims to generational wealth and authority. South America, Asia, Africa... All over the world the same gatekeeper institutions collaborate with media to publish scripted ancient cultures that never really existed. I have a dedicated essay for King Tut im posting here in the next comment or two that might help clarify.

bro, they are published with a dumbed down headscratcher conclusion, the question is not too obscure for an answer, thats called fluoridosis, even if it was only Egypt, which the phenomenon is world wide. My surprize is that they would even point it out in the first place, 99% of articles just pretend it isnt there and if you notice something you are the one that crazy. You have a recurring theme of empty cities all over the world and you arent particularly sure why somebody would seek an answer?

Thats probs the most thoughtful and intelligent reply Ive come across, "racist Europeans trying to get the Brownies..." , Yeah, thats all it is for sure.
Forget your boy Greens, the pinnacle of Egyptian tourist trap history is King Tut tomb, its a total fabrication, staged by the Metro Museum of Art, San Fran Art Museums, the dig is funded by a stag that was banging an illegitimate Rothschilds daughter. The British Museum deals almost exclusively in frauds. The idea of one-upmanship in the headlines is nothing new, the 'discovery' of Tut came right after the discovery of Nineveh (Babylon) started winding down.
The official photographer was provided by the elite robber barons in America and he was trained by Meyers in Hollywood, as in Metro Goldwyn Meyers, MGM Studios. Because it was all a production.
Here, I got extended bios on almost everyone involved.
King Tut is a hoax

"...as well as the ash-covered ruins of Pompeii But for the most part, like the medium of photography, archaeology—at least as it was practiced in Egypt, by Europeans—was an invention of the 1800s. Before that, enthusiasts of history were known as antiquarians, and many were just as invested in sifting through libraries as through dirt."

Again the source is a professional in both photography and archeology, he knows their all fake but he cant say it, the best thing he can come with is that everything inside the staging area is removed. Thats plausible, we are talking about controlling the narrative and thus, the world. Its not out of possibility and in fact should be expected that this wold happen so the gatekeepers can get their shots but the truth is occams razor, nobody went through all that bullcrap. the cities are empty and the dates are incorrect. The thing that gets me is how often ppl accuse a source for lying in one breath but credit them as accurate the next, They're lying about history but they wouldnt put the wrong year on a photo album? Am I missing something?
So howd they get Ghost City Edinburgh?

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photography made its way to archeo digs immediately bc thats the reason the tech was developed, partly; the other part was proxy wars , but the end-game is the same, control of history. It ties into why its so important to ask why all the cities were ghosted all over the world. They sifted through libraries bc books controlled the narratives and they wrote the books. Most field reports were written by whoever and just had the professional name stamped on the cover for prestige, those rich bitches never stepped foot in the desert or jungle. Its a Classist system more than Racist. With the camera now they had a new tech to provide fake images to go with the fake field reports. Seeing is believing right? Fake digs and wars are part of the Psychological Class warfare waged on all of us.
For just one example, these are the official dig photos of Nineveh. Is there anything remotely realistic looking about these? Heck no and every culture from the Incan to the Vikings look like this
thats why the photographer on the king tut mission was trained by the spooks in hollywood
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I got Pompeii too, another staged archeo site but what makes this significant was the alleged volcanic eruption is a euphemism for the biblical Sodom with the fire and brimstone falling from the sky. and thats not the only similarity, whats Pompeii mostly remembered for? the debauchery; mosaics, brothels... Pompeii was either complete fabricated to match the old testament or actual ruins were modified and buried on purpose. not an unfamiliar concept, they say the new place Gobekli tepe was intensionally buried. I havent looked but thats an indication its fake. the academics act too stupid to consider thats an option. In fact, you can say anything you want EXCEPT its a fake. That should be a red flag right there. If its such a crazy notion why cant anyone shoot it down?
I wont show the whole fresco out of good taste but Im sure you can imagine what the two are doing. Does either of them look particularly feminine to you? This isnt the only one either, out of 20 frescos maybe 19 are male and male, thats bc they are staging Sodom, as in sodomy. its in the link.

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Pompeii is the O.G. Sodom and Gomorrah

The site's still up .
That's as much as I can be bothered to say t.b.h.

 

[studytruth2]

I haven't posted here in well over a year, but I think Trismegistus's thread is an important one to ask questions. I found way back when I wrote my first book on this that what standard Egyptologists have to say is just far beyond wrong. I of course originally came up with the ideas that backed the various big alternative names of the say (John West, Chris Dunn, Peter Tompkins). As the years went on, and I took more trips to Egypt, that began to change. I began to realize there were 2 Egypts. One was the big pyramids and megalithic structures, then was all the stuff the Egyptians did starting with the Old Kingdom. Around 2016 I got introduced to the work of Russian researcher Arkady Sklarov at the Laboratory of Alternate History (he died a few years ago) and on looking through several of his videos many things were similar to how I had been thinking, and many key parts of sites or stonework or whatnot that he showed, I checked out on my next visit, and they helped clarify a bit more.
Not that I can say I have any definitive answers (why a thread like this has value) just that the big, powerful, energetic stuff is old. Real old. And you can kind of only get that from being there. Egyptian megalithic sites can not be studied in any way from books or the internet or whatnot. You have to go there, immerse yourself in the structures, experience the energy there (which is unlike any other ancient site anywhere else in the world I have been) as well as study the stones up close, the melted granite, the laser cuts, tube drill holes. I saw them first in books, but seeing them up close and touching them is a different thing. got hundreds of stories of course.
Granted now in the last few years understanding the ideas of a reset or restart, and how this simulation is in a sense redone constantly, it helped put another piece of the puzzle together for me....they were from a previous reset. With that it begins to make sense, why no one can know who built it, when it was built, why it was built, what to with it...they are not from our simulation. I am still working on research in that area now.

Thus again T's original idea that Egyptology in the 1800s was mostly a bunch of made up ideas to explain what could not be explained by anyone who came to see it. The job was to stop people asking real deep questions, to see that even the basic concept of what reality even is, is way way off, so it was to find what can be called simplified answers that would tame basic minds.

Anyway just wanted to drop in and make this comment.
It is a good community of researchers here, and you guys have made some good videos along the way.
Cheers
Howdie

 

[Udjat]

I have a quick question for anyone here, because I could not find any real answer, nor did I dig that deep, but where are the blood lines of the Pharaoh's? Can anyone say that their ancestor was so and so? I know it is considered a long time ago, but I would think that the blood lines would be kept aware of no matter whose hands have taken the reins of the country. They make sure that in death they are buried with all this stuff for the afterlife, but they are not worried about the blood lines being carried on for "eternity". Another thing is, why would their stories get lost, again for such an established and long lasting culture, even when they were trying to be taken over by another race of people, why would their stories get lost and no one know how to translate their language? Something does not add up for me. I don't know about being fake so much, and I don't know if it is left over simulation props but what I do know is that no one seems to know. Seems like a big waste of time effort and resources to keep such a narrative up for so long. I think you need to squint your eyes when you look at Egypt and then maybe things will come in to focus more!!!!!

 

[Makko]

I have a quick question for anyone here, because I could not find any real answer, nor did I dig that deep, but where are the blood lines of the Pharaoh's? Can anyone say that their ancestor was so and so? I know it is considered a long time ago, but I would think that the blood lines would be kept aware of no matter whose hands have taken the reins of the country. They make sure that in death they are buried with all this stuff for the afterlife, but they are not worried about the blood lines being carried on for "eternity". Another thing is, why would their stories get lost, again for such an established and long lasting culture, even when they were trying to be taken over by another race of people, why would their stories get lost and no one know how to translate their language? Something does not add up for me. I don't know about being fake so much, and I don't know if it is left over simulation props but what I do know is that no one seems to know. Seems like a big waste of time effort and resources to keep such a narrative up for so long. I think you need to squint your eyes when you look at Egypt and then maybe things will come in to focus more!!!!!

Sean Hross postulates that Egyptian nobility moved to Europe with Roman colonization (I haven't personally put yet effort in negotiating this with ambiguities involved with the Roman empire itself). Swiss were the first Germanic tribe to co-operate and thus Switzerland became their base. Today this age-old nobility cherishing their lineage to Egyptian monarchy has spread far and wide while keeping this secret from rabble. This is the reason for the role Switzerland plays as the permanent aircraft carrier of the mighty. See giureh on youtube (a bit mad lad but still).

 

[trismegistus]

In another episode of Questionable Ancient Egypt:

Egypt pyramid renovation sparks debate

In a video posted on Facebook on Friday, Waziri showed workers setting blocks of granite on the base of the pyramid, which sits besides the sphinx and the larger Khafre and Cheops pyramids at Giza.


When originally built, the pyramid was encased in granite, but over time lost part of its covering. The renovation aims to restore the structure's original style by reconstructing the granite layer.

This begs the question - how many times have these "renovations" taken place over the last few hundred years? How many were well documented, and how many have been "lost to history"?

How many skilled laborers alive on the planet are capable of "recreating" the granite encasing of the pyramid? How sure are we that even if they do that it is up to the specifications of the original? Furthermore - how do we know the specifications of the original granite?

All of this smells like another ploy to generate tourism revenue. Come see the new and improved pyramids! What's next?

 

[Udjat]

I think that it is interesting that many times the Sphinx has been covered by sand up to its neck. If the Giza plateau was so important to the people of Egypt then why would it be left like that? Even the story of when, forgive me if I am wrong, of Thutmose 4th uncovering the sphinx and becoming the ruler seems odd. It sounds like he and everyone else had no clue about the Sphinx, it was just there. I guess they didn't care back then and let the sand take over the Sphinx. Something doesn't add up, except the sand and that makes me thing that these buildings on the plateau, at least the Sphinx, had been there a reallllll...... long time before these so called "Egyptians" were living on the plateau. Oh, I almost forgot, when Thutmose had the Sphinx uncovered, they tried to put a beard on the Sphinx and it fell off. I think that says a lot, they can build these structures, let them get buried by sand and then try to attach a beard that is bound to fall off? I don't think so!

I am interested in the basalt floor, the basalt supposedly comes from a great depression of the western desert, the Faiyum region. Why basalt? and so little of it found in one spot? Just sayin'!

 

[mifletzet]

Another 'wet-sand' pyramid theory

Physicists think they've finally figured out how Egyptians built the pyramids

"10 degrees of Magic descended to the Earth, and Egypt took 9 of them" (Talmud Kiddushin 49).

 

[ViniB]

Another 'wet-sand' pyramid theory

Physicists think they've finally figured out how Egyptians built the pyramids

That's plausible only for the base layer of the pyramids. To anything else is complete bs..... at the end of the day, it's just another "scientist" looking for some fame

 

[Tapioca]

You are right when you speculate that there is deception on the front line of these wonderful "ancient" sites.
And I would like to validate your point with this bit of information. We all know the infamous Dr. Zahi Hawass, and yes, he is part of the disguise. But I would like to tell you how he got there. Interestingly enough, the Edgar Cayce foundation found Hawass when he was young and picked Hawass to be the spokesperson for the Egyptian Antiquities. The foundation paid his way through schooling in America, and so he was then on his way. As time passed Hawass was put in the position of head of Egyptian Antiquities. When the Edgar Cayce foundation sent a few people over to Egypt to do some archaeology work, these folks came upon a wonderful find. It was the Osiris Shaft of Tomb. Hawass took full credit for the find and basically told the Edgar Cayce foundation to scram. Even on live television this scoundrel took full credit.

I remember there was a TV special with Dr. Hawass where he was going to open a famous tomb for the first time. He did it off camera and they showed us zero.

 

[jeenam]

I think that it is interesting that many times the Sphinx has been covered by sand up to its neck. If the Giza plateau was so important to the people of Egypt then why would it be left like that? Even the story of when, forgive me if I am wrong, of Thutmose 4th uncovering the sphinx and becoming the ruler seems odd. It sounds like he and everyone else had no clue about the Sphinx, it was just there. I guess they didn't care back then and let the sand take over the Sphinx. Something doesn't add up, except the sand and that makes me thing that these buildings on the plateau, at least the Sphinx, had been there a reallllll...... long time before these so called "Egyptians" were living on the plateau. Oh, I almost forgot, when Thutmose had the Sphinx uncovered, they tried to put a beard on the Sphinx and it fell off. I think that says a lot, they can build these structures, let them get buried by sand and then try to attach a beard that is bound to fall off? I don't think so!

I am interested in the basalt floor, the basalt supposedly comes from a great depression of the western desert, the Faiyum region. Why basalt? and so little of it found in one spot? Just sayin'!

The Europeans came to Africa to 'civilize' the locals because they were savages. That's why none of the the locals reported/recorded their own history and it had to be written by English and French researchers. /s

As has probably been noted in this thread already, it is ridiculous to allow foreigners to tell/write their history rather than the locals.

It has lies written all over it. And re: Gobekli Tepe, yeah, that story sounds like a load of BS as well. The fact the [H]istory channel is all over it should be a clue.

 

[bcmthx]

Im familiar with the Mayan Majix site, I dont think its up anymore but I had to take a screenshot for an article and found it on the wayback machine. mayan majix tricksters
These guys are totally a military intel front, probs why they arent up anymore. All that talk about evolution is a giveaway, New Agey, Soul (Sol) evolution revolution is Sun worship, along with the pyramid itself. The spiral is an MK Ultra sigil, like the butterfly. The Mayan Calendar stone only supports NASA Space fuckery, its a modern hoax. The old chinese observatories are the same. To make it appear as if the ancients were so far advanced blah blah blah. Its BS. Like I saw someone mention the Dogon tribe. So the Normie narrative says they had secret knowledge of far away sirusB, how could they do it? Well did you take into consideration the person that told you about the ethno-tourist trap was some French guy from the British Museum or something, (if he was french it'd've been the Louvre) again this serves to prop up nasa Space lies.
I came across Mayan Majix bc they published a supposed scientific analysis of chemtrail particulates and determined chemtrails arent a health concern. GTFOH. also, the double M's rotate to 33, another intel mark.
The thing about ancient culture tablets and extinct languages is any ol Spook can say anything and who can prove them wrong? Its not like you can cross reference check him. That guy could be publishing his last nights fortune cookie message saying its an ancient prophecy, which he probs is. I hate to be a turd in the punch bowl but someone had to say it.

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Good observation, the Europeans always seem to show up to do the excavations bc they are the ones staging the dig sites, theyre all fake archeological sites to support illegitimate claims to generational wealth and authority. South America, Asia, Africa... All over the world the same gatekeeper institutions collaborate with media to publish scripted ancient cultures that never really existed. I have a dedicated essay for King Tut im posting here in the next comment or two that might help clarify.

bro, they are published with a dumbed down headscratcher conclusion, the question is not too obscure for an answer, thats called fluoridosis, even if it was only Egypt, which the phenomenon is world wide. My surprize is that they would even point it out in the first place, 99% of articles just pretend it isnt there and if you notice something you are the one that crazy. You have a recurring theme of empty cities all over the world and you arent particularly sure why somebody would seek an answer?

Thats probs the most thoughtful and intelligent reply Ive come across, "racist Europeans trying to get the Brownies..." , Yeah, thats all it is for sure.
Forget your boy Greens, the pinnacle of Egyptian tourist trap history is King Tut tomb, its a total fabrication, staged by the Metro Museum of Art, San Fran Art Museums, the dig is funded by a stag that was banging an illegitimate Rothschilds daughter. The British Museum deals almost exclusively in frauds. The idea of one-upmanship in the headlines is nothing new, the 'discovery' of Tut came right after the discovery of Nineveh (Babylon) started winding down.
The official photographer was provided by the elite robber barons in America and he was trained by Meyers in Hollywood, as in Metro Goldwyn Meyers, MGM Studios. Because it was all a production.
Here, I got extended bios on almost everyone involved.
King Tut is a hoax

"...as well as the ash-covered ruins of Pompeii But for the most part, like the medium of photography, archaeology—at least as it was practiced in Egypt, by Europeans—was an invention of the 1800s. Before that, enthusiasts of history were known as antiquarians, and many were just as invested in sifting through libraries as through dirt."

Again the source is a professional in both photography and archeology, he knows their all fake but he cant say it, the best thing he can come with is that everything inside the staging area is removed. Thats plausible, we are talking about controlling the narrative and thus, the world. Its not out of possibility and in fact should be expected that this wold happen so the gatekeepers can get their shots but the truth is occams razor, nobody went through all that bullcrap. the cities are empty and the dates are incorrect. The thing that gets me is how often ppl accuse a source for lying in one breath but credit them as accurate the next, They're lying about history but they wouldnt put the wrong year on a photo album? Am I missing something?
So howd they get Ghost City Edinburgh?

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photography made its way to archeo digs immediately bc thats the reason the tech was developed, partly; the other part was proxy wars , but the end-game is the same, control of history. It ties into why its so important to ask why all the cities were ghosted all over the world. They sifted through libraries bc books controlled the narratives and they wrote the books. Most field reports were written by whoever and just had the professional name stamped on the cover for prestige, those rich bitches never stepped foot in the desert or jungle. Its a Classist system more than Racist. With the camera now they had a new tech to provide fake images to go with the fake field reports. Seeing is believing right? Fake digs and wars are part of the Psychological Class warfare waged on all of us.
For just one example, these are the official dig photos of Nineveh. Is there anything remotely realistic looking about these? Heck no and every culture from the Incan to the Vikings look like this
thats why the photographer on the king tut mission was trained by the spooks in hollywood
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I got Pompeii too, another staged archeo site but what makes this significant was the alleged volcanic eruption is a euphemism for the biblical Sodom with the fire and brimstone falling from the sky. and thats not the only similarity, whats Pompeii mostly remembered for? the debauchery; mosaics, brothels... Pompeii was either complete fabricated to match the old testament or actual ruins were modified and buried on purpose. not an unfamiliar concept, they say the new place Gobekli tepe was intensionally buried. I havent looked but thats an indication its fake. the academics act too stupid to consider thats an option. In fact, you can say anything you want EXCEPT its a fake. That should be a red flag right there. If its such a crazy notion why cant anyone shoot it down?
I wont show the whole fresco out of good taste but Im sure you can imagine what the two are doing. Does either of them look particularly feminine to you? This isnt the only one either, out of 20 frescos maybe 19 are male and male, thats bc they are staging Sodom, as in sodomy. its in the link.

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Pompeii is the O.G. Sodom and Gomorrah

Otto_Didactic,
I'm loving your its-all-fake.com website but the only way I can access it is through archive.org and half the pictures are missing. Did you move it to another host or do you have an archive of your work that you wouldn't mind sharing so that I could continue to enjoy your articles?

 

[ViniB]

And re: Gobekli Tepe, yeah, that story sounds like a load of BS as well. The fact the [H]istory channel is all over it should be a clue.

Oh yeah, i'll have to agree here. Anything that is heavilly promoted is at the very least suspicious

 

[trismegistus]

Otto_Didactic,
I'm loving your its-all-fake.com website but the only way I can access it is through archive.org and half the pictures are missing. Did you move it to another host or do you have an archive of your work that you wouldn't mind sharing so that I could continue to enjoy your articles?

Otto won't be able to respond as their account was banned some time ago. That said last I checked his website was up (seeing as he was constantly directing people to it instead of posting content here on SH), so perhaps he took his toys and went home so to speak.

 

[ViniB]

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Well there we go folks, mystery solved by the dudes carving limestone!!

On a serious note, the levels of cope in that post are high af, half is playing the race card and the other half is the usual excuses.

 

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Well there we go folks, mystery solved by the dudes carving limestone!!

On a serious note, the levels of cope in that post are high af, half is playing the race card and the other half is the usual excuses.

That's a good one.

It would be great to download the video, so it's not stuck on Instagram and able to disappear. (Same goes for any of these corporate sites). Expensive to host and a hassle though...

 

[feralimal]

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Well there we go folks, mystery solved by the dudes carving limestone!!

On a serious note, the levels of cope in that post are high af, half is playing the race card and the other half is the usual excuses.

That's a good one.

I can't help but think it would be great to download the video, so it's not stuck on Instagram and be able to disappear, like so many other broken links, eg more deleted videos on YouTube, etc. It would be too expensive to host and a hassle though...

 

[CurvedBullet]

Part of the mystique is that the original race of people themselves are gone (or don't know that they are the descendants), which captures the imagination of people who want to claim that they were the builders. This is a strangely popular pastime for people who have accomplished very little otherwise. I've spoken online to Arab Egyptians who claim ancient Egypt as part of their heritage even though Arabs are possibly the easiest race to eliminate in terms of who built the foundational civilization of the Nile River Valley.

Black Americans certainly love to claim pharaonic heritage even though that's the wrong side of Africa for their origins. Though some sculptures can reasonably be said to resemble sub-Saharan Africans, black Africans are often very unfavorably depicted in murals and other ancient Egyptian art. They are depicted as servants, or as fleeing armies being crushed by the chariot of the king who is, along with his army (depicted as having bronze Mediterranean-hue skin).

It's an unpopular opinion, but I personally think the vast body of sculptures and art resembles ethnic Copts the strongest (though pure Copts are rarer now since they are often mixed with Arab blood), which would make sense since they seem to be the closest thing to an indigenous people of the region. A search for "Coptic people" on Google Images even shows a red-haired, green-eyed Coptic woman which could suggest there is some endemic red hair genes in the region (I mention this because of the much remarked-upon red haired mummies). Though (just like in our own countries today) the ruling and upper classes of a civilization are often a different ethnic composition than the ruled locals.

Another thing that captures the imagination involves how utterly different the belief system of Egypt seems to be from what is common throughout the world today. I say this with disregard to the grifters and water-muddying Zahi Hawasses and what they claim the Egyptians believed. The ancient architecture and art says something very different than churches and temples elsewhere in the world, it's breathtaking and unique. What did they believe? What inspired them? It's tempting to project my own pet theories, or even to use the lack of knowledge around Egypt as a point where I can conveniently speculate away the holes in my picture of the world.

The majority of "black" Americans aren't from any part of the continent of Africa made up of 54 countries their various shades of tan to mahogany skin color aside. That English language label was placed on them as an ethnicity but is in no way accurate.

 

[Udjat]

The recent story about how "scientists" just revealed a lost branch of the Nile that supposedly "helped" the builders of the pyramids bring in supplies to build.

What the what? Everyone knows this, yes there was a river there that went right to the pyramids, it is not there anymore because Egypt was hit by some huge catastrophe that changed not only the course of the river but obliterated the landscape and that is why it is so barren. If you look at the landscape from drone view, one can see the devastation must have come in a huge wave, heat, water or both.