SH Archive Rosette: what's the meaning of this architectural flower design?

[wizz33]

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Date: 2019-10-22 16:54:08
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i think they are antennas

 

[Archive]

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Username: MustardSeed
Date: 2019-10-28 19:16:53
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This gives good information. Gets into the occult symbolism of the 8 point rosette. You have to scroll a bit, but I found it all interesting since my middle name is rose.

The Masonic Teachings of the rosettes

 

[Archive]

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Username: Maybe
Date: 2019-10-28 20:57:00
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From the thread here:
The Staff of Saint Bernardine of Siena
The priests have the same type of design on the hats and gloves!

 

[Witchcraft]

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Date: 2019-10-31 00:42:37
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Updated the first post with a few additional images. These flower designs are on multiple 19th century buildings. I still have doubts that they are for decoration only. Kind of bumping the thread, in case somebody figures out what they mean, or runs into some info.

Cosmic wheel (video) is very similar in appearance, but not quite.

The flower has 8 points but it's not a star. The flower looks similar to this Star of Inanna, but only in this picture. The other Inanna's stars look more like stars.

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I'm joining this conversation late but in case you've not come across the Shell Grotto in Margate - I was fascinated to see this in there.

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From the thread here:
The Staff of Saint Bernardine of Siena
The priests have the same type of design on the hats and gloves!

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This caught my eye a while ago on Paul's book cover.

 

[Archive]

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Username: Madwack
Date: 2019-10-31 02:23:49
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Yes, it's the same as the clock-like representation on their "watches". I believe that deep-down it is their way to sneer at their cattle (us) by hiding in plain site the fact that most of the powers that be worship the Sun as the one and only god, and that they were able to BS the rest of us with the elaborate story that we have been feed since children. Either Mesopotamian (Freemasons) or Egyptian (Catholic) version leads to the same conclusion.

Additionally, if you take a short stick version of the Cross (+) and then strike it out with an x (X) you arrive at the same combined symbol, one that is featured on the UN pages, some major companies, and anywhere that they have decided to flaunt their control/power over the rest of us. Children were bought/sold as slaves, taken for sacrifices, and made into child "brides" of both sexes in those times, and we see the same thing today with the paedophilic rich and filthy.

Just lending a hand...

 

[Archive]

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Username: twigpin
Date: 2019-12-22 09:39:06
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Uwe Topper wrote about the cross shape as something more related to nature and is more ancient than the Christian thing.
Here is a link to his small book free online. Pay attention to the note by author at the very bottom edge of page.
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This doesn't seem like much of a link but it takes me there. Says not secure, no http or https. But the site is great for alt history, several languages.

I keep thinking of it as the Surfer's Cross from when I was a teen, aka the Maltese cross, equal armed. I know you are saying rosette, but four petals, still the same. The 8 pointed star on the library wall is the same as the quilt pattern Rose of Sharon and is very popular in quilting circles. Another variation to think of is the pinwheel. The Nazi symbol was around way before they hijacked it, and going both clock and counterclockwise. Ancient peasants in Russia used it much in their formal wear. Tibetans also use it.

I have to agree with CyborgNinja about it most likely be due to a planetary catastrophe a la Velikovsky, the sun with 8 rays. And like what KorbenDallas found that circular cutout disc. Just fill in one section for each main cosmic part of the year (solstices and equinoxes) and you have the surfer cross in a circle. This was most likely traumatically imprinted into humanity at the time of one of the resets and nobody was going to let it go, so authority eventually twisted it to another use of great emotional importance which still satisfied some part of the human psyche. Because I do believe in memory carrying over in DNA on some level from the ancestors.

 

[Nostradennis]

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"At the simplest level of observation, it is easy to see why the blue water lily fascinated the Egyptians. The flower is both beautifully colored and fragrant, with sensuously arranged parts that move subtly and change in the light. It is only open in daytime; and, when the petals have spread, a closed cluster of long, yellow stamens with blue tips is revealed. When these stamens in turn spread, beneath them -- seated on a velvet reddish brown disk flecked with gold -- is a perfect little sun. The radiating yellow stamens and the sky-blue petals further enhance the flower's micro-macro connection between nature and the cosmos, so important to the overall belief structure of Ancient Egypt."


The generic but typical image above shows the sun god Re rising out of a lotus blossom with eight petals and two buds that grows from the water below indicated by the zigzag lines. The box around that water suggests a coffin and so illustrates his resurrection from the rejuvenating waters of the underworld.

Its resemblance with the resurrected rising sun as well as its very pleasing fragrance and medicinal properties made this lily the preferred flower of the ancient Egyptians, both living and dead.
Rosette symbolism

Isis, Rose of the World
In mythology there is one deity who came to have a deep connection to the symbolism of the rose, and that is the Egyptian goddess Isis. Her worship spread throughout the Mediterranean region and the Roman empire. Dubbed, She of Ten Thousand Names, corresponds to the many other Goddesses, taking on their attributes, both in and outside of Egypt.
Isis, Rose of the World

Set
In the Osiris myth, the most important Egyptian myth, Set is portrayed as the usurper, who killed and mutilated his own brother Osiris. Osiris's wife Isis reassembled his corpse and resurrected her dead husband long enough to conceive his son and heir Horus. Horus sought revenge upon Set, and the myths describe their conflicts.
Set (deity) - Wikipedia

The characteristics of individual gods could be hard to pin down. Most had a principle association (for example, with the sun or the underworld) and form. But these could change over time as gods rose and fell in importance. The origins of Isis are obscure. Over time she grew in importance, though, eventually becoming the most important goddess in the pantheon.
11 Egyptian Gods and Goddesses

Summation Hypothesis
Maybe the retelling of this myth over time produced a simple play on words that found it's way into the lexicon?

The lily is ancient Egypt's "perfect little sun" used to symbolize a deity's resurrection. In order to have a resurrected rising sun there has to be a corresponding dying or setting sun. "The rose of the world" reoccurring rising/dying worship throughout the ancient region could symbolize a micro-macro sun rise and sun set. It is not hard to imagine that over time the term "sun set" became synonymous with the "rose set". A visual lamentation of a deity dying/setting only to rise again somewhere else throughout the vast ancient world.

Isis, "the rose of the world", and her ongoing battle with Set could also give rise to a phonic wordplay of "rosette" describing the repeated conflict of "Rose" and "Set"? Another micro-macro connection of ancient storytelling, quoth the sun god evermore.

 

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Username: Reichenbach
Date: 2020-05-29 23:56:52
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Posting a couple of pictures of the same interior with approximately 90 years in between the photos. Up on the ceiling curve we have this flower ornament inside the circle, with circle inside the octagon. Anybody knows what the meaning of this flower design is? My googling got me as far as figuring out that it could be some sort of Rosette. It says on the webpage, that this design might have some ancient origins.

Circles and Octagons were a bit easier: Symbolic meaning of octagon and The Octagon in Leonardo’s Drawings.

Makes you wonder why these are used inside a supposedly 1913 Train Station.

The octagon is found in baptisteries as a symbol representing eternal life, likely because the number eight is symbolic of renewal. The circle is symbolic of the heavens (also eternity/infinity) and the angularity of the square is symbolic of earthly presence.

Occasionally, the octagon was viewed as a symbol for infinity. It was suggested that the octagon is a circle attempting to become a square, and a square attempting to become a circle.

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the rosette with the eight petals and the little round thing sticking out ... possibly ... YIN YANG ... NAVAGRAHA ... OGDOAD ... these are just my opinion ... The arising of the Sun or creation from the combination of the four fundamental elements and their opposites ... if it was an ancient symbol then I rest easy and find comfort in the thought that "the knowledge of the ancients [ recent past / Antiquity / Pre MUD Flood Civilization etc., ] contains at its base the Goddess" ... GAYATRI ... now while the YIN YANG / NAVAGRAHA / OGDOAD are explainable and entire sacred material has been drawn up around them ... the Goddess remains the mystery ... i just have some thoughts which are mine and simply opinions ... history was stolen but knowledge is still there ... we will survive and progress ... I am not speaking in riddles ... no time for that ... East and West have always blown the same smoke ... only looked different ... please do not confuse the Goddess for the Mantra ... inklings of her works can be found in GI Gurdjieffs' story of creation [ page 687 of 1135 in the PDF ] ... GAYATRI arose from Vishnu / TIME ... we are not sure if she arose before Shiva or after Shiva ... GAYATRI Mantra says ... In the begining there was the Infinite or Origin; then arose TIME / Unstable, then arose NATURE / Octave / Stable and then arose the Stars etc., ... sequence of events ... no zapping / magics etc., ... Master Morihei Ueshiba of Aikido "in the beginning there was nothing then there was breath [ TIME ] and then nature" ...

 

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It is the symbol of Nestorian Christians from the Church of the East, originally from Syriac Christians, and spread forth to Tartary and China in the 7th century, hundreds of years before the wily and cunning Jesuits came through.

All came from China below in the 7th - 9th century (before the schism with the Papacy)





Rabban Hormizd Monastery

The Swastika was a common symbol used for Nestorians as well. Interesting that this symbol is now considered as hateful. The wily Jesuits/Vatican must have really hated the Church of the East...

 

[thegrayghost]

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i think they are antennas

 

[Gabriel]

Well, if people are lucky enough to live in the middle of nowhere Eastern Kentucky there are countless small towns with old buildings that feature this 8 petal flower symbol. The first is Paintsville National Bank (official date 1905) and the second is pikeville, KY county courthouse (1888-9).

Paintsville, KY

Pikeville, KY

I apologize but the ISO was set too high - , but all over the courthouse is this lotus, or rose, or cross, with this other inverted pyramid/cross symbol. I will return for some better photos.

As a bonus, I added a photo of some "garages" built into the hill. However, it seems there is no house in onelot, and yet you can find stairs, a garage, and a dirt hill with a large tree, which indicates nothing has been there in a while. It's very strange. Plenty of strange things but nonethless this thread is about this one symbol...

I need to find some archaeology books. I have had relatively poor luck finding satisfactory books on home and building contstruction. Most of them only provide a "cursory treatment" on the issues such as building materials and source of materials, technique, exterior symbols and traditions of design during the 19th century...

On P303, Cross in Tradition, History, and Art (Seymour), This 16th century church has a similar 8 point design.

also, on p.338, 8 point cross,

and p.458 the “black cross”

There is also some pre-Christian symbols and lotus symbology that also looked similar.

Anecdotally, I remember that time when I was blown away by the revelation that the cross was far older than Christianity. My opinion is that the intersection of the prime meridian and equator was atlantis, or eden, and that explains the juxtaposed circle crosses, and the crosses that appear as if it were a map to show the four intersecting rivers at rupe nigra.

 

[Gabriel]

from a stone relief in Upper Iraq. Almost the same flower petal design. Apparently the Watchers were fans of it too. Maybe the watchers built The First National Bank?