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Peace.

This forum along with the members and contributions have been invaluable in shaping ideas I’ve had over the last few months so a heartfelt thanks firstly. It’s a lot of information and I am very impressed by the knowledge and resourcefulness of the contributors. I’m not sure if this is the correct section or even how to articulate what I want to share as it’s quite broad and inter-woven. I’m not going to be discussing the lumi or any other specific sects or societies, this is not the focus. Rather, I’m going to attempt to stitch together a few issues about the past, specifically the sudden advances made by certain countries along with historical gaps and why these exist. If possible, any information which would support or disprove this theory would be great.


Background and Context

A lot of the history research focuses on dates and I would say historic arcs i.e. ancient times, medieval period, renaissance period, industrial revolution, etc. What is curious to me is that there doesn’t appear to be gradual changes but a switch from one era to the next. I know the historical record is incomplete so I cannot say that there are no transitionary periods, this is simply the general impression I get when reading up on the history of the world. Others have presented theories along with evidence that we as people have been subject to multiple resets in our past and what these resets are caused by is up for debate in my mind. Cataclysms, plagues, warfare, bioengineering or perhaps God has simply smote nations and caused others to inherit the earth, as is stated plainly in some religious texts. Perhaps He smote through these events. Whatever the event, I get the sense that there were people one day and suddenly no people the next. Sometimes entire civilizations along with infrastructure is destroyed, sometimes only people go missing. It seems the societies which are deemed primitive seemed to be largely spared from these extinction level events and the advanced civilizations were wiped out. So what happened to their technology? Well that’s what I’m going to try and address in what follows.


The Present Historic Arc

The period we are currently living through started after the most recent reset, which, based on the research I’ve come across on SH, is the 18th century.

The Post-Reset War of 1800

During this period we had the orphan train phenomenon ( Foundlings and the Orphan Trains), civil wars and wars of independence . These were worldwide so it was a time of upheaval and transition. New power structures were being established and a new order was being set in motion. I think a lot of famous historical figures such as Columbus or Jan van Riebeeck are fictional accounts necessary for a nation origin story, I don’t think these were real people. The nation state had to be founded by someone, so they created an origin story for that nation.

We have these wars of the 19th century and the industrial revolution taking place against a backdrop of people populating cities that are so out of place that it is obvious they don’t belong. All very strange. Then out of the blue certain nations suddenly start developing technologies left, right and centre and come along in leaps and bounds and so the order of the present day has its origins in this growth spurt of 200 years ago. How did this happen?


Occultism and Secret Societies

Thanks to @BusyBaci for posting Mass Effect and Cathedrals - Ad Orientem because it was really that post that tied this together for me. It got me thinking of other life forms, a reality which is accepted throughout our history. Every religion and every society, there exists this generally accepted view that we are not alone on this earth and there are other beings among us. Now I have no insight to offer into other dimensions or these life forms but the little I do know pertains specifically to djinn and one characteristic of them and that is their lifespan. They live much longer than people (100s of years, some say 1000s of years). And this is quite significant because if they lived through these extinction level events then we have a situation where a being exists, that can interact with us and our world, who may have direct knowledge of ancient technologies.

And this is really the gist of this post. The occult enjoyed the membership of so many prominent persons and scientists because I think they were trying to communicate with these djinn to gain knowledge of these technologies. I don’t think TPTB have some vatican vault full of top-secret info. I think post-reset they scrambled to makes sense of what just happened, probably like everyone else. Then someone got involved with magic and ritual summoning or whatever it is they do and figured out they can gain a significant advantage over everyone else if they follow the playbook of these djinn who have seen this development cycle before, perhaps many times. It then became the great lumi game of secrecy, sacrifice and carving up the world and then running interference with everyone else.

The ancient architecture, ancient technologies and all these other marvels cannot be replicated. TPTB are at the mercy of these djinn for their technological development so whoever pleases these beings, who like to claim divinity and be worshipped, (a familiar story throughout history) they get to become the next billionaire, genius, tech revolutionary, etc. Why do the djinn do it? Maybe they want to shed blood and spread corruption. Maybe they want people to worship them as gods like in the old days or maybe they do it for the lols. I don’t know. I do think this is probably the reason why there is this strong occult them among “men of science” and why we've seen a consistent agenda being rolled out for as long as history is recorded.

Conclusion

Not much to conclude really. I don’t think TPTB are actually TPTB, they are the implementation arm of a long-standing agenda to corrupt the earth and are simply being rewarded for their injustice, deceit and corruption. The real PTB are not interested in worldly things, they want to be worshipped and invert the world it seems.
Thanks again to everyone on this forum. I’d love to be able to post one of those awesome research pieces and maybe one day I’ll be able to but this is what I can share for now.

Peace
 
djinn jinn genie genius (genes?) - 'their genius helped them (to achieve)'

genie (n.)
1650s, "tutelary spirit," from French génie, from Latin genius (see genius); used in French translation of "Arabian Nights" to render Arabic jinni, singular of jinn, which it accidentally resembled, and attested in English with this sense from 1748.

Here's a link to a chapter from a christian book from ex-witchdoctor about 'The City Under The Sea' involving both science (technology) and occult in his narrative.

As a summary: Author describes demonic realm as also having high technology and being the source for, at least, some of it in the world.
 
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Thanks. I'm pretty sure this creation is capable of many things which to people are amazing but for them is standard fare. Also, given that they are said to be shape-shifting (which seems more possible for me if they are energy-based life forms) then the fact that they live in the sea as merman or in the forests as fairies or in caves as reptilians means that we're talking about the same things, perhaps just their version of race or tribe.
 
It could be that our terminology 'physical' vs 'spiritual' is contrived. Maybe there's no 'edge'? - just a veil over our senses suggesting that 'spiritual' is less tangible than 'physical'. Biblical terminology is 'visible' vs 'invisible'.

There's this old story about king Salomon conjuring spirits to make them to build him a temple. I haven't found though anywhere a description of how this process would have appeared to a human viewer - does blocks just floated into their places or formed auto-magically? Made me fantasize if such a building as cathedral could be manifested, brought forth from invisible realm by some means.

Just a thinking game, but that is just about it how much i'm willing to delve into the toxic subject of occult.
 
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