Smithsonian: Suppressed Archaeological Finds

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Username: Obertryn
Date: 2019-05-30 13:07:33
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Can you give your evidence for this? I can only find articles about articles and no one has provided the Supreme Court ruling.

Yeah, WorldNetDaily has an annoying habit of writing stuff without providing citations. I even wonder if it was a deliberate misleading piece that debunkers could point to as an easy target to poke fun at people who are suspicious of the Smithsonian.

 

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2019-05-30 13:39:04
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I guess, to me, all of the wide spread, small town, old newspaper articles of reports of giant findings and subsequent smithsonian takeover are some of the best evidence we can have. Even though newspapers are chronically wrong the gist is there.

 

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Username: WorldWar1812
Date: 2019-06-01 12:15:13
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Can you give your evidence for this? I can only find articles about articles and no one has provided the Supreme Court ruling.

Is this bone fake?

Or belongs to a dinosaur?

 

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Username: jd755
Date: 2019-06-01 12:47:16
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Is this bone fake?

Or belongs to a dinosaur?

Is this article letter fake?
Dear Christian Friends, I was born and lived in the Middle East from 1938 to 1968. I was Ain-Tell and Euphrates water works Engineer and was very interested in archaeology and history and had some very interesting findings, some of which may sound unbelievable. I have brought with me a few silex arrow heads, etc., from the very battle-field where King Nebuchadnezzar and Pharo-Necho’s armies fought. And what about the giants mentioned in Genesis? In south-east Turkey in the Euphrates Valley and in Homs and at Uran-Zohra, tombs of about four meters long once existed, but now roads and other construction work has destroyed the spots. At two places, when unearthed because of construction work, the leg bones were measured about 120 cms. It sounds unbelievable. I have lived with my family at Ain-Tell for more than 14 years at the very spot where King Nebuchadnezzar had his headquarters after the battle of Charcamish, where I dug the graves of kings’ officers and found their skeletons like sponge, and when you touch them they become like white ash, with spears and silex and obsidian tools and ammunition laying by.

 

[asatiger1966]

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Username: asatiger1966
Date: 2019-06-20 23:06:59
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So, I just came across this in my newsfeed, and figured I'd share this as it has some relevance.

Familiar points include Jesuits, museums, recovered artifacts "lost" or destroyed...

They discovered something in Luxor...

Seems these people have a habit of using their institutions as a means of shielding discoveries from outside eyes, burying them, losing them, and destroying them.
Then there's their whole tie-in with the Masons, the Egyptian obelisks in DC, The Vatican, and London, ....

You don't need x-ray vision to know that there's a tuna fish sandwich from last semester in the school locker you're walking past - because the eye-watering stink emanates so strongly from it.

Found this lost Star Fort, at least from me, in New Mexico. I had a book on Burials of some tribes West of the Mississippi. Happened to check for information on non related matter and surprise, surprise.

I will try to coherently summarize:

This Fort Union is tied to the Smithsonian Institution, Bureau Of American Ethnology, bulletin #83

There is a Star Fort, Fort Union, north east of Santa Fe about 60 miles give or take. The fort has been converted into a State Park. The available information is loose at best. The Smithsonian does not acknowledge that it originally was a star fort.The story seemed to be that it was built in 1851, even though I have a map of 1512 showing the Star Fort in place.

It seems that since 1851 the Fort has been portrayed as a normal four sided frontier post, nothing to see here folks.
The State of New Mexico has made a State Park of the place, with one exception it looks to me the State shows it to have been a star fort built to defend against the Confederacy? In truth the Star Fort was out of commission as a garrison and the regular four sided fort, with same name, was used.

I also think that some of the time during the Civil War the Confederacy occupied the regular fort after running the Union troops off.

What was the Smithsonian really studying at that site other that burial practices of a few tribes? Why is the history so blurred about that fort? there a few strange named places around that fort. Also was that part of New Mexico at one time a part of the Oklahoma Indian Territory?

I am leaning toward KD's idea about constant war in America. The topography of New Mexico does resemble a devastated area similar to Oklahoma. Maybe just maybe this area was a world center and was destroyed? That would explain the big Smithsonian interest.


First in the book there is a sketch of the fort in 1851, way too much electrical looking equipment showing above the fort walls. So the search began.No telegraph lines, electrical or railroads at that time, 1851. But a river that has disappeared. Image Fort Union 8 , how long does it take a river to move and dry up?

I added a few pictures of what might have been structures a long time ago. I liked the two mountains that were both vertically cut, nice, I know natural!

I will continue to follow the Smithsonian for now. Thanks.
Also will re-find that 1500s map that shows the Star Fort at "Fort Union"

 

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2019-06-21 00:04:28
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Great post but I think the 5th image might be from Montana.
Fort Union Trading Post National Historic Site

 

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2019-06-21 22:00:50
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Would love to see that 1512 map showing the star fort before the official narrative says it was built. Great find, btw.

 

[asatiger1966]

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Username: asatiger1966
Date: 2019-06-26 02:15:52
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Great post but I think the 5th image might be from Montana.
Fort Union Trading Post National Historic Site

Your right, coming from a military background I would not ever think that the Military would allow the use of the name of an existing Fort.
Of late my research and time put into it was limited by physical issues. I was cleared today to walk again after four months, two months of bed time, therapy and of course new meds. Broken bones do not work well on older people.

Would love to see that 1512 map showing the star fort before the official narrative says it was built. Great find, btw.

I am on it. During the last few months my computer skills went to sleep. I had down loaded it and even blew up the Santa Fe area, but I somehow misplaced the large map in one of my many files, the smaller blow up is too large to put on the site, tried many times. Will work it out. Thanks

 

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2019-06-26 02:22:09
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Your right, coming from a military background I would not ever think that the Military would allow the use of the name of an existing Fort.
Of late my research and time put into it was limited by physical issues. I was cleared today to walk again after four months, two months of bed time, therapy and of course new meds. Broken bones do not work well on older people.

Glad you're up and around again, asatiger. Hang in there!

btw, did anyone know that the Smithsonian has a volcano institution? I just found that out yesterday. Why would an American museum need to keep track of volcano activity around the world? Is it so they can go scoop up the "artifacts" before a place is going to be buried? Totally a conspiratorial thought but, honestly, how is world volcanoes any of the Smithsonian's business? Why would they be involved in that and who authorized their involvement?

 

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Username: asatiger1966
Date: 2019-06-26 03:42:47
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Glad you're up and around again, asatiger. Hang in there!

btw, did anyone know that the Smithsonian has a volcano institution? I just found that out yesterday. Why would an American museum need to keep track of volcano activity around the world? Is it so they can go scoop up the "artifacts" before a place is going to be buried? Totally a conspiratorial thought but, honestly, how is world volcanoes any of the Smithsonian's business? Why would they be involved in that and who authorized their involvement?

I did not, but that institution is scary in what they control. Why would they commit resources to Indian Burial practices?
The guy never lived in the U.S. but controlled everything from a trust in Holland? Even though were led to believe that some of the things we were sent to recover were ancient, not being an archaeologist, we could just as well been destroying the recent past unknowingly.

They act just as KD says. They hide recent history and institute their narrative. I an changing to nothing is more than a few thousand years old. Maybe with a few exceptions.

Would love to see that 1512 map showing the star fort before the official narrative says it was built. Great find, btw.

As I search for my lost map, I came upon these sketches made in 1850. Made by an authorized expedition, authorized by whom?, to the Canyons area of New Mexico.
After my encounter with the Smithsonian at the Oklahoma battlefield, my thoughts are that a very advanced culture lived in the Four Corners area. My opinion.Attached are sketches from that expedition, which will be identified shortly. Just need to back track and cross reference. I though you would enjoy the B.S. on full display.

Once you start looking for one thing, others seemed to be more visible, maybe just me, surely not?

Update: Found some of the expeditions information.The War Department authorized the expedition it would appear.

Attached are more of the natural rock formations found
Some of the local Indians ? The were described on an old map as the men having full beards, have found no pictures yet.

I have a number of maps that need to be included, but I need to re work their size.

Maybe someone has commented on this particular thought. The founder of the Smithsonian had his trust in Holland. My memory, someone asking the question "why would they send the bodies, concerning the battlefield in Oklahoma with the 100,000 dead warriors? to Holland, Maybe DK?

 

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Username: dejavu
Date: 2020-01-05 14:25:42
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Hello all! Deja here (newbie) just reading through various threads to get a feel for the information being shared on this site. Lots of very interesting thoughts and research going on! Thank you KD for putting together this site.

Happened to be looking through this thread when something caught my eye....

The 1897 article mentions that the railcar loads of bones were sent to a museum in Holland. Why in the world why would they go to Holland unless the S.I. was too new to consider for such a find. Considering that the author and the discoverer both considered it the most important archaeological find in history, I'd like to know more about it and whatever became of it, if any more research or written papers are available, etc.

As I continued reading through the discussion, I came across this question, which was somewhat in line with what I was thinking too:

Could it be the bones got send to Holland US? There are some place in the US that is called Holland.

And then I saw this newspaper image posted in a comment later on...

The name caught my eye - Dr. W. J. Holland, curator of the Carnegie museum, Pittsburgh...

Not taking away from other Dutch/Netherlands connections proposed in the discussions, could it be possible this is the "Holland" being referred to IOP? It would make sense to send the bones to a more local curator rather than send them overseas (if the timeline matches up), and the fact that it has ties with Carnegie museum suggests (IMO) the ability to maintain control of the artifacts by the elites of that time.

Apologies if this connection was brought up somewhere, I'm making my way around threads as I have time, but thought it worth posting in case it connects dots somewhere.

 

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-01-05 14:42:22
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Nice dot connecting, @dejavu . I'm not sure of the timeline for the battle asatiger mentioned but after much searching I have yet to find anything on the web about an epic battle in Oklahoma, a mass grave or giant bones being sent anywhere. If it wasn't for asatiger's account, we wouldn't have any info on it at all. Thanks for the new lead.

 

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2020-01-05 14:47:17
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@whitewave, it could be this story, but it is lacking any textual evidence, as far as I understand.

• The Strange Case of the Human-Bigfoot War of 1855

Unrelated to the above... the white settlers are to blame, according to Jesuitionian. Yup.

• White Settlers Buried the Truth About the Midwest’s Mysterious Mound Cities

 

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-01-05 15:29:43
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@whitewave, it could be this story, but it is lacking any textual evidence, as far as I understand.

• The Strange Case of the Human-Bigfoot War of 1855

Unrelated to the above... the white settlers are to blame, according to Jesuitionian. Yup.

• White Settlers Buried the Truth About the Midwest’s Mysterious Mound Cities

More like white settlers dug up the truth about the mound builders and the Smithsonian buried the truth in a bs story.

More like white settlers dug up the truth about the mound builders and the Smithsonian buried the truth in a bs story. Farmers were always digging up bones when they plowed (and the bones were only the depth of a plough tine, so not that old). The natives themselves said they didn't build the mounds and weren't living in those structures that "rivaled European architecture". If they were capable of building sumptuous stone edifices why were they living in earth floored, hide covered tents? Smithsonian really needs a creative writing staff cuz the drivel they come up with is not even good fiction.
Hadn't heard about a Bigfoot war so thanks for the article. India has stories about red apes (red hair/fur is a common feature mentioned when describing Bigfoot). In their stories, the red apes were stealing women and had to be hunted down. Very similar to the article. The battle that took place doesn't account for 75,00-100,000 dead bodies in a mass grave. Would really like to learn more about this story but, if it's true, it has been completely erased from all search engines. That, or my search skills suck.

 

[trismegistus]

The original post that this article relates to is only in the archives and can't have replies added to it, but it is interesting to see the "The Castle" at the Smithsonian in the news as of recent.

Workers Uncover an Underground Chamber Sealed for More Than a Century Near the National Mall

The recently discovered “secret chamber” measures 9 feet across and 30 feet deep, per the National Park Service. Its smooth brick walls were built to collect and contain rainwater, but the dry chamber was sealed empty.

While this cistern is very real, a host of mythical structures have long been rumored to lie beneath the National Mall. As Smithsonian magazine’s Jesse Rhodes and Eli Wizevich reported, some people believe a labyrinth of underground Smithsonian archives are below the Mall—a complete fiction. However, there is a real staff-only passageway connecting the Castle to the National Museum of Asian Art’s Freer and Sackler galleries, the National Museum of African Art, and the Arts and Industries Building. There’s also a cramped tunnel between the Castle and the National Museum of Natural History, per Smithsonian, but “most employees prefer a quick jaunt across the National Mall.”

The sheer amount of cognitive dissonance in this article would almost lead me to believe the only reason they wrote up this story was specifically for folks like us. The existence of secret tunnels is a complete fiction - but also there are multiple known tunnels and they just uncovered a secret cistern.

“Sadly, no national treasures or secret symbols were recovered” in the chamber, writes the National Park Service. “But the cistern offers a neat glimpse into the museum’s and the National Mall’s past.”

The NPS dost protest too much, methinks. Articles like this reek as cover for buildings that are extremely suspect in the history of America.

The Castle towering over the rest of the buildings in DC should tell you all you need to know about this place.