The Great Pestilence and it's Disguised Origins

Another interesting point related here, is Leviticus 11:4–8 and the reports of ancient animal sacrifice causing sickness in observers.

Broxmeyer's observations on the origins of convid:

On January 22nd, 2020, Customs authorities from the Guardia di Finanza in the northern Italian city of Padua seized and burnt nearly 10 tons of Chinese pig meat from Wuhan, potentially infected with African swine fever.

Padua is located in the Veneto region of Italy. Mycobacterium avium, AKA Covid-19, first appeared in Lombardy (Milan) and Veneto (Padua).

https://web.archive.org/web/2020101...1/ITALY_IN_CRISIS_by_Dr_Lawrence_Broxmeyer_MD
 
Sorry, but the Nuremberg Chronicles are the work of its author and a co-author, both of whom are known and the dating is fairly clear. They owned together one of the largest libraries in Europe of the time. And yes, they used their own and others money - profit was not the object.

It has been a long time since I looked into it, and sadly I can't find the other book where I got some additional details from. You may be correct that the authorship is well documented.

Until then I have edited the claims that are not supported by the listed book.

Christoph Reske (a respected researcher in this field), on whom I base the claims that are now left in the OP, writes:
It can only be deduced from the context that Schedel was the compiler commissioned by Schreyer. Thus, his name is found on the contemporary title pages of the two handwritten originals, but not in the two final texts of the printed editions. There, the other financier, Schreyer's brother-in-law Kammermeister, and the two painters Wolgemut and Pleydenwurff, who had to supply the woodblocks with pictorial program, were named.
Those originals were kept for hundreds of years in the hands of the Nuremberg monastery - controlled by the corrupt church. This may be just a minor irrelevant detail.

Btw, it should be noted that the Chronicles mention 7 world ages of 1,000 years each in line with the old Christian calendars, which suggests that the new calendar system was forced on people at one point.

There is very clear mention of the Plague of Justinian in the Welsh writings of the time of the
original King Arthur.

I don't claim that it did not exist at all, and the authors I quote also don't seem to believe that.

There were likely countless regional plagues throughout history. The problem is that the Plague of Justinian is raised to the "First Plague", comparing it to the Black Death.

The Welsh writings may be accurate, or not.

Regarding dates and timelines. There are several possibilities to change a timeline in retrospect, including just making up some centuries after changing the official calendar. The church made sure to make their calendar the default calendar and suppress competing native calendars, for example in China. This "work" included synchronizing calendars. And there is a lot of potential for manipulation, because this synchronization is complicated enough to hide whatever you want to hide.

A quick search shows that the Celts had their own calendar, so I wonder why they would go by the default Roman-Catholic calendar in their writings: Celtic calendar - Wikipedia

Care must be taken with fixed dates. The Gregorian calendar used today was proposed as a replacement for the Julian calendar in 1582, but adoption occurred at different times and with different levels of success in the Celtic countries. France, including Brittany (Breizh), adopted the reform in the 1580s, Scotland in 1600, England (and thence Cornwall [Kernow], Ireland, and Wales [Cymru]) in 1752, and the Isle of Man (Ellan Vannin) in 1753. This meant there was a ten-day discrepancy between England and Scotland for 100 years, and eleven after that time. Many festivals are still celebrated according to the ‘old calendar’, so that, for example, Samain customs sometimes take place on 1 November, but these may have become Martinmas customs. Calendar customs can also shift between nearby holidays, so that many New Year’s customs have become associated with Christmas, and newer festivals such as Guy Fawkes Day may have incorporated some customs previously associated with Samain/Calan Gaeaf. Many individual dates were celebrated or otherwise marked, notably saints’ days. Martyrologies (a catalogue of martyrs and saints arranged by date) such as Félire Óengusso Céli Dé (The martyrology of Oengus Céile Dé) and issues such as the Easter controversy show an acute awareness of the calendar.
Aldhelm, the Anglo-Saxon bishop of Sherborne, visited Cornwall in about 700 and wrote a letter to Gerontius (Gerent), the king of the region, urging him and his clergy to adopt the Roman calendar.
Although the Julian and Gregorian calendars have been used throughout the Celtic countries, there is some evidence that at least some of the month words found in Old Irish were applied to periods at variance with the ordinary calendar by nearly a fortnight.
- Koch, John T. Celtic Culture: A Historical Encyclopedia.

The bishop visited Cornwall in around 700 to convince the king to adopt the Roman calendar (probably the Julian calendar, but maybe it's not that easy), and 1052 later it adopts the Gregorian one.

I doubt the only motivation for the Gregorian calendar was to make life easier for everyone. The 10-day discrepancy could have been an inevitable result of having to add some centuries.

The Gregorian calendar reform and the destruction of Irish culture likely involved rewriting of important historical documents, and adapting their culture to the Gregorian calendar. (Ireland as an example of old-world governance)

And BTW, corn is also pictured in the Scottish church of the Knights Templar, and it is dated
at pre-Columbus as well.

Official history is pretty self-referential. There are always many possibilities. Maybe the world was connected by trade earlier than the controllers of history claim, thats also possible. Or the Scottish church of the Knights Templar also has a dating problem.


If six hundred years were taken out - snip snip - from our timeline, and the before and after simply slammed together, other than messing up the dating, what would be the result if any? It would not
actually change a thing - just the dating for the events.

Yes, I think most of the events talk about in history happened one way or another. It was mostly the knowledge regarding those events that was subtly changed or censored. But some events were also completely made up, as Fomenko and other show, there are countless duplicates between anquitiy and the middle ages.

What it changes is that our history is shorter than claimed, and that for many events the context would be changed so much, that our history gets an entirely new meaning.

One idea that has been suggested is that 1,000 years got added by turning i500 into 1500, so just adding a one in front of the dates.

For example, if the Welsh writings indeed mention the year 540, and the dates are not manipulated, this would now correspondend to the year 1540 in our modern calendar. The event happened, but 500 years ago.

People that went to sleep on Sunday, October 4th, 582 AD, woke up on Monday, October 18th 1582 AD. They were not aware that an extra one thousand years had been added to their calendars because they didn’t have access to calendars. Their source of the date and time was the Church.

They were led to believe that the Julian date of Sunday, October 4th, 582 AD, was followed by Friday, October 15th, 582 AD, on the new Gregorian calendar.

Today, we believe that the Julian date of Thursday, October 4th, 1582 AD, was followed by Friday, October 15th, 1582 AD, on the new Gregorian calendar with no change in weekday continuity.

In order to maintain the proper day of the week for Easter when jumping from year 582 to 1582, ten days needed to be added. Easter of the following year, 583, was April 20th, while Easter of 1583 fell on April 17th.

The question the Church must have asked itself is, “How far out of sync would the Julian calendar be if we kept it another 1,000 years, until 1582?”

The correct answer would have been ‘thirteen days’, but if they added that many days then in the following year (1583), Easter would have fallen on a Wednesday. In order to keep Easter on a Sunday, they added only ten days.
SH Archive - 1,000 Years of History Fabricated and added to our calendar. How was the deception pulled off?

The Gregorian reform was mainly used to add those 1,000 years, then many scholars were busy synchronizing all the events into the new calendar. There's a lot of potential for manipulation there. Now this could explain why there are two similar plagues divided by 1,000 years. The Justinian Plague mentioned in the Welsh writings could simply be part of the Black Death in the 16th Century.

The evil genius in this strategy is that you can basically duplicate history, and no one back then got suspicious, because for them the last 1,000 years did not change at all. It was only that now there was a foundation to change the entire concept of history for future generations.

And most of those events would be nearly impossibly to believe followed immediately after the other - not enough time for the language to change, the customs, civilizations, kingships, ancestries, etc.

Well, culture can change pretty quickly. Think about Europe in 1900. For me that's a different universe. If you bring together a 15-year old poisoned by smartphones, Instagram and Tik-Tok in a room with a 90-year old from the year 1850, they wouldn't even be able to communicate with each other beyond basic concepts.

Most young germans can't read books from 1700 at all. In 1850, some people were still able to recite entire books, connected to their ancestors and history. Some scholars believe that it takes only 3 generations for a language to die out and change completely.

Are there missing or misunderstood periods of our human history? Absolutely. But by missing or misunderstood I mean dark ages where mankind had not yet recovered sufficiently to record events, not time periods erased from our accepted history.

I think that the chronology criticism has brought to light lots of evidence that shows that the official calendar does not correspondend to reality.

Wilhelm Kammeier has shown that the dates of the church documents before ca 1600 are all faked. We just have to debate the scope and the depth of this fakery.

He also says that there was no culture that focused on writing before 1600. People were simply not documenting things like we do today, and if they did, it wasn't usable in a standardized fashion. Everyone had their own system of documenting history, and especially the monarchs didn't to it at all. If there are cleanly written chronologies of the past, then this already suggests someone 100 or 200 years later sat down and combined several other documents into a more coherent one.

Personally I do think there was a written culture, but it got erased in the last cataclysm.
 
Dreamtime, I checked the source on your Geneva story and found this. Similar, but not the same.

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I checked the source on your Geneva story and found this
Thanks, but it's not my story - I just copy-pasted it from the link posted by @scofield.htm

If you can, please use texts and links instead of screenshots for sources.

The history of the city and state of Geneva, from its first foundation to this present time

The book you mention is written by Spon, Jacob, 1647-1685., Godefroy, Jacques, 1587-1652., Chorier, Nicolas, 1612-1692, that seems to be a different book.

The book by Bonivard may only be available in French: Chroniqves de Genève : Bonivard, François, 1493-1570 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
 
It has been a long time since I looked into it, and sadly I can't find the other book where I got some additional details from. You may be correct that the authorship is well documented.

Until then I have edited the claims that are not supported by the listed book.

Christoph Reske (a respected researcher in this field), on whom I base the claims that are now left in the OP, writes:

Those originals were kept for hundreds of years in the hands of the Nuremberg monastery - controlled by the corrupt church. This may be just a minor irrelevant detail.

Btw, it should be noted that the Chronicles mention 7 world ages of 1,000 years each in line with the old Christian calendars, which suggests that the new calendar system was forced on people at one point.



I don't claim that it did not exist at all, and the authors I quote also don't seem to believe that.

There were likely countless regional plagues throughout history. The problem is that the Plague of Justinian is raised to the "First Plague", comparing it to the Black Death.

The Welsh writings may be accurate, or not.

Regarding dates and timelines. There are several possibilities to change a timeline in retrospect, including just making up some centuries after changing the official calendar. The church made sure to make their calendar the default calendar and suppress competing native calendars, for example in China. This "work" included synchronizing calendars. And there is a lot of potential for manipulation, because this synchronization is complicated enough to hide whatever you want to hide.

A quick search shows that the Celts had their own calendar, so I wonder why they would go by the default Roman-Catholic calendar in their writings: Celtic calendar - Wikipedia




- Koch, John T. Celtic Culture: A Historical Encyclopedia.

The bishop visited Cornwall in around 700 to convince the king to adopt the Roman calendar (probably the Julian calendar, but maybe it's not that easy), and 1052 later it adopts the Gregorian one.

I doubt the only motivation for the Gregorian calendar was to make life easier for everyone. The 10-day discrepancy could have been an inevitable result of having to add some centuries.

The Gregorian calendar reform and the destruction of Irish culture likely involved rewriting of important historical documents, and adapting their culture to the Gregorian calendar. (Ireland as an example of old-world governance)



Official history is pretty self-referential. There are always many possibilities. Maybe the world was connected by trade earlier than the controllers of history claim, thats also possible. Or the Scottish church of the Knights Templar also has a dating problem.




Yes, I think most of the events talk about in history happened one way or another. It was mostly the knowledge regarding those events that was subtly changed or censored. But some events were also completely made up, as Fomenko and other show, there are countless duplicates between anquitiy and the middle ages.

What it changes is that our history is shorter than claimed, and that for many events the context would be changed so much, that our history gets an entirely new meaning.

One idea that has been suggested is that 1,000 years got added by turning i500 into 1500, so just adding a one in front of the dates.

For example, if the Welsh writings indeed mention the year 540, and the dates are not manipulated, this would now correspondend to the year 1540 in our modern calendar. The event happened, but 500 years ago.


SH Archive - 1,000 Years of History Fabricated and added to our calendar. How was the deception pulled off?

The Gregorian reform was mainly used to add those 1,000 years, then many scholars were busy synchronizing all the events into the new calendar. There's a lot of potential for manipulation there. Now this could explain why there are two similar plagues divided by 1,000 years. The Justinian Plague mentioned in the Welsh writings could simply be part of the Black Death in the 16th Century.

The evil genius in this strategy is that you can basically duplicate history, and no one back then got suspicious, because for them the last 1,000 years did not change at all. It was only that now there was a foundation to change the entire concept of history for future generations.



Well, culture can change pretty quickly. Think about Europe in 1900. For me that's a different universe. If you bring together a 15-year old poisoned by smartphones, Instagram and Tik-Tok in a room with a 90-year old from the year 1850, they wouldn't even be able to communicate with each other beyond basic concepts.

Most young germans can't read books from 1700 at all. In 1850, some people were still able to recite entire books, connected to their ancestors and history. Some scholars believe that it takes only 3 generations for a language to die out and change completely.



I think that the chronology criticism has brought to light lots of evidence that shows that the official calendar does not correspondend to reality.

Wilhelm Kammeier has shown that the dates of the church documents before ca 1600 are all faked. We just have to debate the scope and the depth of this fakery.

He also says that there was no culture that focused on writing before 1600. People were simply not documenting things like we do today, and if they did, it wasn't usable in a standardized fashion. Everyone had their own system of documenting history, and especially the monarchs didn't to it at all. If there are cleanly written chronologies of the past, then this already suggests someone 100 or 200 years later sat down and combined several other documents into a more coherent one.

Personally I do think there was a written culture, but it got erased in the last cataclysm.

It's actually fun, and somewhat constructive, to have an interesting conversation and exchange of data and conclusions, even if we can not entirely come to an agreement on same.
I enjoyed your comments and contributions and thanks for that.
I've lately learned to not come to any hard conclusions about much of what we are told is our history, and I will keep what you have said in mind.
 
What I'm trying to say is that the vaccinations are key to understanding how mass death can occur. You correctly identify virology as a scam and you understand that the vaccinations poison people. So then why do you ignore this and continue to look for what could cause mass death?

This is what I was able to find: Variolation - Wikipedia

It was used for smallpox historically, so maybe it was indeed already in use during the time of the plague.

But a variolation doesn't have the potential to cause a pandemic, I think. For that, you would need a toxic vaccine or medication.

Variolation sounds like what people did when smallpox wasn't a dangerous disease anymore.

I don't want to rule out that doctors caused the Black Death, but it's unlikely to me. They may have made it worse, especially in Western Europe.

The Spanish Flu, which was caused by the combination of war time stress, chemicals, malnutrition and forced vaccinations, only killed a couple million people.

One thing we can't rule out is that the Black Death was indeed caused by doctors and only few people died, but later they changed the story to make it more horrfying. That's always a possibility.
 
I am not sure if anyone has touched on this, but the plague still exists, at least in America, to this day. There are carriers of it and they just so happen to be rodents. I believe there was a case in California, where ground squirrels carry it. A person actually contracted the plague.
How interesting?
 
I am not sure if anyone has touched on this, but the plague still exists, at least in America, to this day. There are carriers of it and they just so happen to be rodents. I believe there was a case in California, where ground squirrels carry it. A person actually contracted the plague.
How interesting?
I did not know that. Thank you. I imagine that somewhere, in some lab, they are trying to make a weapon out of it - and this could be in America as well as in other countries.
 
I'm not sure that all of the reported plagues would've happened at the same time, it makes sense that noxious gases would be a more localized (even a few countries) event.

I just imagine some toxic/noxious fallout from either a meteor, the dust clouds from it's impact (causing lack of sunlight; "the year without summer"), or geological action (volcano/earthquake/gas leak... caused, or not caused by an object in the sky). It could even be a combination of all 3, with delayed geological action in the years preceding a comet or impact. The events of 1811-16 are the most coherently documented example, in my opinion.

I wish I had the hours (and effort) to make a fully detailed 2000-year timeline; a side-by-side comparison of all comets, volcanoes, earthquakes, floods, plagues, famines, tsunamis, wars, pestilence, strange weather, and general death. I have started a smaller, simple, 500-year version and it's gonna take me a while!!
 
I'm not sure that all of the reported plagues would've happened at the same time, it makes sense that noxious gases would be a more localized (even a few countries) event.

I just imagine some toxic/noxious fallout from either a meteor, the dust clouds from it's impact (causing lack of sunlight; "the year without summer"), or geological action (volcano/earthquake/gas leak... caused, or not caused by an object in the sky). It could even be a combination of all 3, with delayed geological action in the years preceding a comet or impact. The events of 1811-16 are the most coherently documented example, in my opinion.

I wish I had the hours (and effort) to make a fully detailed 2000-year timeline; a side-by-side comparison of all comets, volcanoes, earthquakes, floods, plagues, famines, tsunamis, wars, pestilence, strange weather, and general death. I have started a smaller, simple, 500-year version and it's gonna take me a while!!
But what better way to employ your time?
 
In 1799, Noah Webster published a book, summarizing the available knowledge on that topic:

A brief history of epidemic and pestilential diseases; with the principal phenomena of the physical world, which precede and accompany them, and observations deduced from the facts stated : Webster, Noah, 1758-1843 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
A brief history of epidemic and pestilential diseases; with the principal phenomena of the physical world, which precede and accompany them, and observations deduced from the facts stated : Webster, Noah, 1758-1843 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Vesuvius is mentioned several times:

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And here we have some time synchronicities that I had suggested. The epidemic in India happened at the same time as the epidemic in North America. And the epidemic 150 years prior matches with the plague among the Indians in America.

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Worldwide events caused by earth changes:

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Mention of Tartary:

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Interesting remark that the plague turned into other disease, and people considered the plague only as one of many symptoms of the pestilence:

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Measles and smallpox not contagious:

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Most of the time, people considered epidemics to be caused by a change in the earths environment and atmosphere (i.e. earthquakes), and he mentions that the plage affected trees and animals the same as humans, which implies poisonous air.

it’s absurd how modern medicine completely ignores all the old reports and knowledge regarding the plague and other diseases. I recently heard one „scientist“ and vaccine maker say in a Arte Documentary that what our ancestors believed about disease would be considered conspiracy theories nowadays.

While that's true, it reveals more about us than our ancestors. It's as if someone just made a cut around 1850-1900 and declared everything that happened before as fantasy.
 
So much info about black death, no mention of the hundreds of a faith accused to poison the wells and then burned on the stake, though the symptoms dont really correlate with the plague, there are more than one thing you can poison water with. Maybe the people back then were just livid antisemites. Logically, no disease spreads at the rate of the plague, must have been some poison, be from aliens, or sulfur contaminated coal
 
In 1799, Noah Webster published a book, summarizing the available knowledge on that topic:
Very Interesting dreamtime, dates tie in here with the vaxx attempts maybe?

The practice, known as “variolation”, came into fashion in Europe in 1721, with the endorsement of English aristocrat Lady Mary Wortley Montagu, but was later met with public outcry after it transpired 2-3% of people died after inoculation, and further outbreaks were triggered.

In 1796, Jenner inoculated an eight-year-old boy by taking pus from the cowpox
 
So much info about black death, no mention of the hundreds of a faith accused to poison the wells and then burned on the stake, though the symptoms dont really correlate with the plague, there are more than one thing you can poison water with. Maybe the people back then were just livid antisemites. Logically, no disease spreads at the rate of the plague, must have been some poison, be from aliens, or sulfur contaminated coal
I don't know about poison, but I would not count it out. But what gets me are the boils, and other ailments that came along with the plague, it kind of sounds like radiation poisoning. Especially considering its "catchiness" or the sudden influx of the "disease". Just putting it out there.
 
pots from the gumelnita culture [romania] painted just before they disappeared
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looks like they saw a comet and had time to take a picture
 
I don't know about poison, but I would not count it out. But what gets me are the boils, and other ailments that came along with the plague, it kind of sounds like radiation poisoning. Especially considering its "catchiness" or the sudden influx of the "disease". Just putting it out there.
Reminds me of the story of a unlikely assassins weapon, a rosary. Made from uranium contaminated rock, given as a gift to the victim who died shortly after. However, radiation poisoning causes blisters on exposure, i dont think it causes the lymphatic system to go off the plantation like the plague did. Stands to reason it had something to do with tissue and not something breathed in or eaten or drunk, but some poison that works through skin like aconitum. There are some insane poisons out there, you can kill 1.5 million people with a single gram of pulverized polonium.
 
Reminds me of the story of a unlikely assassins weapon, a rosary. Made from uranium contaminated rock, given as a gift to the victim who died shortly after. However, radiation poisoning causes blisters on exposure, i dont think it causes the lymphatic system to go off the plantation like the plague did. Stands to reason it had something to do with tissue and not something breathed in or eaten or drunk, but some poison that works through skin like aconitum. There are some insane poisons out there, you can kill 1.5 million people with a single gram of pulverized polonium.
I just wanted to mention, radium. Back in the 1800's they used it as a cure all kind of thing, and yes maybe it was something of that sort. I wonder if any fauna or flora had any side effects from the time of the plagues?
 
I just wanted to mention, radium. Back in the 1800's they used it as a cure all kind of thing, and yes maybe it was something of that sort. I wonder if any fauna or flora had any side effects from the time of the plagues?
Ssomething definietly happened to the wild prey animals. 14th-15th century gave birth to animal trials, apparently because attacks by wolves was sharply increasing. That suggests upheaval regarding available prey animals. Lots of crop failures happened too, attributed to climate being a bitch.
 
Ssomething definietly happened to the wild prey animals. 14th-15th century gave birth to animal trials, apparently because attacks by wolves was sharply increasing. That suggests upheaval regarding available prey animals. Lots of crop failures happened too, attributed to climate being a bitch.
if they're going after humans they must be proper hungry! wild animals do not endanger themselves unless it's a life-or-death choice!!
 
Just to add another valuable reference to this topic (but at a more recent time) I would recommend finding a copy of "The Moth In The Iron Lung". It goes through the actual events of the polio outbreaks and what the actual cause of poliomyelitis is and why it predominantly affected younger children. In reading this book, you can reflect back on events like this thread topic and even the more current "pandemic" with striking similarities.

I definitely won't spoil the book, it's such a good read and well done. The author also agrees with terrain theory and the evidence that he collected in this book backs it up quite well.
 
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