The Tartarian Origin of the Jews

[solarbard]

It is a well-known fact in many circles that the origin of the Jewish people is a mystery. Firstly, they must have been slaves to someone at some point. The memory of this is too deeply engrained for it to be false. However, there is no evidence that the Children of Israel passed by the Sinai Desert and logic tells us that it does not take 40 years to get from Egypt to Israel. The Jews are a genetically odd people who seem to be a mixture of a Levantine people with that of a Southern European people. Strangely of all is there link to long lost Tartaria. According to the Science Record of 1873, the manna which fed the Israelites was none other than the lichens growing in a place called the Tartarian Desert.https://www.google.com/books/edition/Science_Record/XRM1AAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=tartarian+israelites&pg=PA559&printsec=frontcover

Secondly, it has been recorded that the Israelites were conquered by the Tartarians or at least ten of the twelve tribes were. Tales of the Ten Lost Tribes

It does not take 40 years to get from Egypt to Israel, but might it take 40 years to go from Southern Russia into the Levant? I am tentatively identifying the people who enslaved the Jews as none other than the Tartarians. There is one more piece of evidence that, regrettably, I must add. That is, the custom of drinking blood. It is known that Tartars practiced such a custom. A New Description of the World This is a custom forbidden by the Torah. (Leviticus 17:11). Why might the Torah need to instruct the Israelites not to drink blood unless they already had an inclination for it, a custom perhaps adopted from their former Tartarian masters?

It is also known that the Jewish people suffer in large numbers from an illness known as Gaucher's disease which affects the blood cells and can be treated with blood transfusions. If some Jewish sect, splitting away from the discipline of the Torah, had begun to engage in the Tartar custom of drinking the blood of their enemies then this could be the roots of the so-called blood libel, the accusation that the Jews ritually drink the blood of sacrificed children. If this particular sect was afflicted with Gaucher's Disease, they could have found drinking blood to relieve their symptoms and given justification to their abomination. Such a sect would have been quickly cast out and their existence suppressed by the rabbis. (And I can assure you, this sect must now be extinct.)

There is yet one more piece of the puzzle. As is the case, it seems, with every people, even the records of the Jewish people comes to us in fragmentary form. The oldest copy of the Tanakh (Old Testament) is dated to the tenth century CE. (Yes, a book over three-thousand years old and the oldest copy only dates back a millennium ago. Riiiiiight.) Suspiciously, 200 pages are missing from this manuscript so we, in actuality, have no ancient complete copies of the Tanakh in the same way we have no surviving ancient copies of the Romans or Greek philosophers.

(BTW, the earliest copy of the Christian New Testament dates back to the 4th century and is therefore older than the "Old Testament.")

What's my take? The people now known as the Jews are a mixture of Levantine and Southern Europeans slaves, taken by the Tartarian Empire. Escaping their masters, perhaps during some cataclysm ascribed to God, they returned to their homeland in the Levant where they developed a common faith and began to ascribe their origin to deep antiquity, even coming to believe themselves more ancient than the Christian religion, which is actually their predecessor. What evidence is there of this? In Jesus's day, the Jews had no historical memory of being slaves. ("We are Abrahams sons and have never been slaves to anyone" John 8:33.)

One more bit of evidence. The Ashkenazi Jews have genetic admixture with the Far East. An inheritance from the Tartarians who were no doubt kin to the Chinese? A genetic contribution from the Far East into Ashkenazi Jews via the ancient Silk Road

 

[matematik]

I'm suspicious of population genetics, haplogroups, etc, because that field is controlled by establishment scientists and big corporations who are likely to give what ever results are most beneficial to the narrative. The mainstream narrative says Jews are Israelites, so of course the scientists are going to say the bulk of Jewish DNA comes from the Levant. No one can really argue with that because they create the science and the Haplogroup definitions, you just have to take their word for it, and it's likely that a large proportion of the scientists and people who run these companies are Jews themselves so obviously will have a vested interest in getting certain results that back up their narrative.

I've always thought that the Khazar theory seems most likely, considering the main proponents of it are Jews themselves and oddly I've never heard any Jews strongly argue against it. It's like on an instinctive level they believe it's true and are almost proud of being Khazars, as well as also claiming to be Israelites. Like a sort of societal cognitive dissonance.

Back during the Maidan uprising in Ukraine, I recall reading a lot about the idea that the Maidan uprising is controlled by Jews with the aim of taking over Ukraine and running it themselves as they see it as their Khazar homeland, a "Second Israel" so to speak. Apparently a very large percentage of Ukrainian MPs post-Maidan are Jews, over 90% some claim, so that does support the idea and the historic location of Khazaria would explain their interest in Ukraine.

However, I think it's also quite possible that the Khazar theory is a cover and misdirection for a Tartarian origin of the Jews, because the two words sound phonologically quite similar and Khazaria and Tartaria are in a similar area geographically. So it may well be that the Khazar theory is based on half-truths, acknowledging a Central Asian origin of Jews, but is ultimately intended to point people in the wrong direction, away from Tartarian origins.

 

[solarbard]

I'm suspicious of population genetics, haplogroups, etc, because that field is controlled by establishment scientists and big corporations who are likely to give what ever results are most beneficial to the narrative. The mainstream narrative says Jews are Israelites, so of course the scientists are going to say the bulk of Jewish DNA comes from the Levant. No one can really argue with that because they create the science and the Haplogroup definitions, you just have to take their word for it, and it's likely that a large proportion of the scientists and people who run these companies are Jews themselves so obviously will have a vested interest in getting certain results that back up their narrative.

I've always thought that the Khazar theory seems most likely, considering the main proponents of it are Jews themselves and oddly I've never heard any Jews strongly argue against it. It's like on an instinctive level they believe it's true and are almost proud of being Khazars, as well as also claiming to be Israelites. Like a sort of societal cognitive dissonance.

Back during the Maidan uprising in Ukraine, I recall reading a lot about the idea that the Maidan uprising is controlled by Jews with the aim of taking over Ukraine and running it themselves as they see it as their Khazar homeland, a "Second Israel" so to speak. Apparently a very large percentage of Ukrainian MPs post-Maidan are Jews, over 90% some claim, so that does support the idea and the historic location of Khazaria would explain their interest in Ukraine.

However, I think it's also quite possible that the Khazar theory is a cover and misdirection for a Tartarian origin of the Jews, because the two words sound phonologically quite similar and Khazaria and Tartaria are in a similar area geographically. So it may well be that the Khazar theory is based on half-truths, acknowledging a Central Asian origin of Jews, but is ultimately intended to point people in the wrong direction, away from Tartarian origins.

I have my own suspicions as my family comes up English with a bit Jewish, despite the fact that I look like a rabbi and/or terrorist (it depends on how long ago I shaved.) My mother is clearly Central Asian according to her features, but the DNA tests insists she's Scottish.

 

[Collapseinrealtime]

There is also the "chosen-ness" factor to consider. With the idea of choice there is the indication that there were potentially other contender races or groups that could have been "chosen", but in the end, were not. Who or what is making that choice? And what does being "chosen" actually entail? Were they "chosen" by their god to create mischief and mayhem for the innocent races of the world? Who is this god?

On the public front, it is YHWH, the God of the Israelites, a group and name that the modern Jews do not ever actually identify with. You'll never hear a rabbi referring to their god as Yahweh. When referring to "God" in their writings, they always abbreviate "God" with "G-d", indicating a certain kind of superstition and aversion to even mentioning the concept of deity. And when was the last time anyone ever heard of a Jew calling himself an Israelite? Citizens of modern Israel are called Israelis. The Judahites of the scriptures were residents of the land of Judah, not Israel. Even the designation of "Jew" is a modern one, not found in older translations of the scriptures. The Biblical Israelites were told that he that called on the NAME of the lord would be saved. The Jews never publicly invoke the name of their god.

On the private front, their god is Moloch, the god of the Canaanites. The owl symbology is ever present in their rituals, their family crests and coats-of-arms, in addition to the phoenix, along with a plethora of other gods not traditionally associated with the Biblical Israelites.

The Khazars were known to conquer peoples and then to steal their identity. As a marauding people, this could prove quite useful strategically. They could invade other nations under false identities to stir up hatred between target nations and races, the ultimate "false flag" strategy. It would appear that based on this idea, the Khazars conquered the actual Judahites, enslaved them, interbred with them, and ultimately became them. They did not convert to Judaism, but rather created it. The remaining tribes of the Israelites are generally referred to as "The Lost Tribes". Perhaps this is an indication that the imposters failed to capture them, since they dispersed throughout the world, hence were lost to them.

Where this ties into Tartaria is anyone's guess. Perhaps the Khazars, or whatever their designation as a people originally was, also conquered and adopted the identity of the proto-Tartars before becoming the Khazars. When examining "Tartarian" architecture and all of its free-energy foundational capabilities, they would make the ideal target for a parasitic collective to infiltrate and destroy through the process of assimilation. The ability to build such magnificent, awe-inspiring structures would be possible only in an open-sourced, free society of geniuses, tradesmen and artisans with lots of time on their hands, having access to great wealth, the finest of materials and sophisticated architectural and engineering knowledge, not plagued by the wealth-destroying power of usury, the signature trait of these parasites. If Tartaria was originally a slave plantation of these parasites, it would have looked far more like Mordor.

Perhaps they tried to infiltrate and conquer Tartaria many times and were not initially successful and were either taken on as slaves, were relegated to ghettos, or were banished. Being a benevolent and righteous people, perhaps genocide as a "final solution" was not an option on the table for these proto-Tatars. Following their historic pattern, the parasites have been exiled from many European nations because of their nefarious practices of currency manipulation-devaluation, along with ritual child sacrifice and blood consumption. Perhaps this expulsion strategy was an extension of a larger Tartarian policy when dealing with these parasites. But after many attempts and deceptions, perhaps over many generations, the parasites finally succeeded, stealing Tartaria's identity, then systematically erasing them from history, renaming themselves the Khazars.

It makes sense why they would want this erased from our history.

 

[irishbalt]

It is a well-known fact in many circles that the origin of the Jewish people is a mystery. Firstly, they must have been slaves to someone at some point. The memory of this is too deeply engrained for it to be false. However, there is no evidence that the Children of Israel passed by the Sinai Desert and logic tells us that it does not take 40 years to get from Egypt to Israel. The Jews are a genetically odd people who seem to be a mixture of a Levantine people with that of a Southern European people. Strangely of all is there link to long lost Tartaria. According to the Science Record of 1873, the manna which fed the Israelites was none other than the lichens growing in a place called the Tartarian Desert.https://www.google.com/books/edition/Science_Record/XRM1AAAAMAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=tartarian+israelites&pg=PA559&printsec=frontcover

Secondly, it has been recorded that the Israelites were conquered by the Tartarians or at least ten of the twelve tribes were. Tales of the Ten Lost Tribes

It does not take 40 years to get from Egypt to Israel, but might it take 40 years to go from Southern Russia into the Levant? I am tentatively identifying the people who enslaved the Jews as none other than the Tartarians. There is one more piece of evidence that, regrettably, I must add. That is, the custom of drinking blood. It is known that Tartars practiced such a custom. A New Description of the World This is a custom forbidden by the Torah. (Leviticus 17:11). Why might the Torah need to instruct the Israelites not to drink blood unless they already had an inclination for it, a custom perhaps adopted from their former Tartarian masters?

It is also known that the Jewish people suffer in large numbers from an illness known as Gaucher's disease which affects the blood cells and can be treated with blood transfusions. If some Jewish sect, splitting away from the discipline of the Torah, had begun to engage in the Tartar custom of drinking the blood of their enemies then this could be the roots of the so-called blood libel, the accusation that the Jews ritually drink the blood of sacrificed children. If this particular sect was afflicted with Gaucher's Disease, they could have found drinking blood to relieve their symptoms and given justification to their abomination. Such a sect would have been quickly cast out and their existence suppressed by the rabbis. (And I can assure you, this sect must now be extinct.)

There is yet one more piece of the puzzle. As is the case, it seems, with every people, even the records of the Jewish people comes to us in fragmentary form. The oldest copy of the Tanakh (Old Testament) is dated to the tenth century CE. (Yes, a book over three-thousand years old and the oldest copy only dates back a millennium ago. Riiiiiight.) Suspiciously, 200 pages are missing from this manuscript so we, in actuality, have no ancient complete copies of the Tanakh in the same way we have no surviving ancient copies of the Romans or Greek philosophers.

(BTW, the earliest copy of the Christian New Testament dates back to the 4th century and is therefore older than the "Old Testament.")

What's my take? The people now known as the Jews are a mixture of Levantine and Southern Europeans slaves, taken by the Tartarian Empire. Escaping their masters, perhaps during some cataclysm ascribed to God, they returned to their homeland in the Levant where they developed a common faith and began to ascribe their origin to deep antiquity, even coming to believe themselves more ancient than the Christian religion, which is actually their predecessor. What evidence is there of this? In Jesus's day, the Jews had no historical memory of being slaves. ("We are Abrahams sons and have never been slaves to anyone" John 8:33.)

One more bit of evidence. The Ashkenazi Jews have genetic admixture with the Far East. An inheritance from the Tartarians who were no doubt kin to the Chinese? A genetic contribution from the Far East into Ashkenazi Jews via the ancient Silk Road

I'd like to see where this thread is leading, please expound.

 

[Worsaae]

I'm suspicious of population genetics, haplogroups, etc, because that field is controlled by establishment scientists and big corporations who are likely to give what ever results are most beneficial to the narrative. The mainstream narrative says Jews are Israelites, so of course the scientists are going to say the bulk of Jewish DNA comes from the Levant. No one can really argue with that because they create the science and the Haplogroup definitions, you just have to take their word for it, and it's likely that a large proportion of the scientists and people who run these companies are Jews themselves so obviously will have a vested interest in getting certain results that back up their narrative.

I've always thought that the Khazar theory seems most likely, considering the main proponents of it are Jews themselves and oddly I've never heard any Jews strongly argue against it. It's like on an instinctive level they believe it's true and are almost proud of being Khazars, as well as also claiming to be Israelites. Like a sort of societal cognitive dissonance.

Back during the Maidan uprising in Ukraine, I recall reading a lot about the idea that the Maidan uprising is controlled by Jews with the aim of taking over Ukraine and running it themselves as they see it as their Khazar homeland, a "Second Israel" so to speak. Apparently a very large percentage of Ukrainian MPs post-Maidan are Jews, over 90% some claim, so that does support the idea and the historic location of Khazaria would explain their interest in Ukraine.

However, I think it's also quite possible that the Khazar theory is a cover and misdirection for a Tartarian origin of the Jews, because the two words sound phonologically quite similar and Khazaria and Tartaria are in a similar area geographically. So it may well be that the Khazar theory is based on half-truths, acknowledging a Central Asian origin of Jews, but is ultimately intended to point people in the wrong direction, away from Tartarian origins.

I have my own suspicions as my family comes up English with a bit Jewish, despite the fact that I look like a rabbi and/or terrorist (it depends on how long ago I shaved.) My mother is clearly Central Asian according to her features, but the DNA tests insists she's Scottish.

The scottish themselves claim central asian/eurasian heritage from Scythia, which is the predecessor to Tartaria.

 

[solarbard]

There is also the "chosen-ness" factor to consider. With the idea of choice there is the indication that there were potentially other contender races or groups that could have been "chosen", but in the end, were not. Who or what is making that choice? And what does being "chosen" actually entail? Were they "chosen" by their god to create mischief and mayhem for the innocent races of the world? Who is this god?

On the public front, it is YHWH, the God of the Israelites, a group and name that the modern Jews do not ever actually identify with. You'll never hear a rabbi referring to their god as Yahweh. When referring to "God" in their writings, they always abbreviate "God" with "G-d", indicating a certain kind of superstition and aversion to even mentioning the concept of deity. And when was the last time anyone ever heard of a Jew calling himself an Israelite? Citizens of modern Israel are called Israelis. The Judahites of the scriptures were residents of the land of Judah, not Israel. Even the designation of "Jew" is a modern one, not found in older translations of the scriptures. The Biblical Israelites were told that he that called on the NAME of the lord would be saved. The Jews never publicly invoke the name of their god.

On the private front, their god is Moloch, the god of the Canaanites. The owl symbology is ever present in their rituals, their family crests and coats-of-arms, in addition to the phoenix, along with a plethora of other gods not traditionally associated with the Biblical Israelites.

The Khazars were known to conquer peoples and then to steal their identity. As a marauding people, this could prove quite useful strategically. They could invade other nations under false identities to stir up hatred between target nations and races, the ultimate "false flag" strategy. It would appear that based on this idea, the Khazars conquered the actual Judahites, enslaved them, interbred with them, and ultimately became them. They did not convert to Judaism, but rather created it. The remaining tribes of the Israelites are generally referred to as "The Lost Tribes". Perhaps this is an indication that the imposters failed to capture them, since they dispersed throughout the world, hence were lost to them.

Where this ties into Tartaria is anyone's guess. Perhaps the Khazars, or whatever their designation as a people originally was, also conquered and adopted the identity of the proto-Tartars before becoming the Khazars. When examining "Tartarian" architecture and all of its free-energy foundational capabilities, they would make the ideal target for a parasitic collective to infiltrate and destroy through the process of assimilation. The ability to build such magnificent, awe-inspiring structures would be possible only in an open-sourced, free society of geniuses, tradesmen and artisans with lots of time on their hands, having access to great wealth, the finest of materials and sophisticated architectural and engineering knowledge, not plagued by the wealth-destroying power of usury, the signature trait of these parasites. If Tartaria was originally a slave plantation of these parasites, it would have looked far more like Mordor.

Perhaps they tried to infiltrate and conquer Tartaria many times and were not initially successful and were either taken on as slaves, were relegated to ghettos, or were banished. Being a benevolent and righteous people, perhaps genocide as a "final solution" was not an option on the table for these proto-Tatars. Following their historic pattern, the parasites have been exiled from many European nations because of their nefarious practices of currency manipulation-devaluation, along with ritual child sacrifice and blood consumption. Perhaps this expulsion strategy was an extension of a larger Tartarian policy when dealing with these parasites. But after many attempts and deceptions, perhaps over many generations, the parasites finally succeeded, stealing Tartaria's identity, then systematically erasing them from history, renaming themselves the Khazars.

It makes sense why they would want this erased from our history.

The Hebrew God is Yahuah, Creator of Heaven and Earth and the name SHOULD be invoked. Most Jews I know on the ground level are among the kindest I've ever met, but in those upper echelons, especially the disgraceful business in Palestine, is highly wicked. The Jews do have a corrupted element which they have tried-and failed-to cast out. I think the cabal transcends ethnic lines. It's not just one group, it's the "one percent" the occult elite who prey on our baser instincts.

The corruption can be seen as far back as the Hebrew failure to remain pure from the wicked practices of the Canaanites. Who knows. Maybe those Canaanites are still around, manipulating things at the top.

 

[irishbalt]

There is also the "chosen-ness" factor to consider. With the idea of choice there is the indication that there were potentially other contender races or groups that could have been "chosen", but in the end, were not. Who or what is making that choice? And what does being "chosen" actually entail? Were they "chosen" by their god to create mischief and mayhem for the innocent races of the world? Who is this god?

On the public front, it is YHWH, the God of the Israelites, a group and name that the modern Jews do not ever actually identify with. You'll never hear a rabbi referring to their god as Yahweh. When referring to "God" in their writings, they always abbreviate "God" with "G-d", indicating a certain kind of superstition and aversion to even mentioning the concept of deity. And when was the last time anyone ever heard of a Jew calling himself an Israelite? Citizens of modern Israel are called Israelis. The Judahites of the scriptures were residents of the land of Judah, not Israel. Even the designation of "Jew" is a modern one, not found in older translations of the scriptures. The Biblical Israelites were told that he that called on the NAME of the lord would be saved. The Jews never publicly invoke the name of their god.

On the private front, their god is Moloch, the god of the Canaanites. The owl symbology is ever present in their rituals, their family crests and coats-of-arms, in addition to the phoenix, along with a plethora of other gods not traditionally associated with the Biblical Israelites.

The Khazars were known to conquer peoples and then to steal their identity. As a marauding people, this could prove quite useful strategically. They could invade other nations under false identities to stir up hatred between target nations and races, the ultimate "false flag" strategy. It would appear that based on this idea, the Khazars conquered the actual Judahites, enslaved them, interbred with them, and ultimately became them. They did not convert to Judaism, but rather created it. The remaining tribes of the Israelites are generally referred to as "The Lost Tribes". Perhaps this is an indication that the imposters failed to capture them, since they dispersed throughout the world, hence were lost to them.

Where this ties into Tartaria is anyone's guess. Perhaps the Khazars, or whatever their designation as a people originally was, also conquered and adopted the identity of the proto-Tartars before becoming the Khazars. When examining "Tartarian" architecture and all of its free-energy foundational capabilities, they would make the ideal target for a parasitic collective to infiltrate and destroy through the process of assimilation. The ability to build such magnificent, awe-inspiring structures would be possible only in an open-sourced, free society of geniuses, tradesmen and artisans with lots of time on their hands, having access to great wealth, the finest of materials and sophisticated architectural and engineering knowledge, not plagued by the wealth-destroying power of usury, the signature trait of these parasites. If Tartaria was originally a slave plantation of these parasites, it would have looked far more like Mordor.

Perhaps they tried to infiltrate and conquer Tartaria many times and were not initially successful and were either taken on as slaves, were relegated to ghettos, or were banished. Being a benevolent and righteous people, perhaps genocide as a "final solution" was not an option on the table for these proto-Tatars. Following their historic pattern, the parasites have been exiled from many European nations because of their nefarious practices of currency manipulation-devaluation, along with ritual child sacrifice and blood consumption. Perhaps this expulsion strategy was an extension of a larger Tartarian policy when dealing with these parasites. But after many attempts and deceptions, perhaps over many generations, the parasites finally succeeded, stealing Tartaria's identity, then systematically erasing them from history, renaming themselves the Khazars.

It makes sense why they would want this erased from our history.

The Hebrew God is Yahuah, Creator of Heaven and Earth and the name SHOULD be invoked. Most Jews I know on the ground level are among the kindest I've ever met, but in those upper echelons, especially the disgraceful business in Palestine, is highly wicked. The Jews do have a corrupted element which they have tried-and failed-to cast out. I think the cabal transcends ethnic lines. It's not just one group, it's the "one percent" the occult elite who prey on our baser instincts.

The corruption can be seen as far back as the Hebrew failure to remain pure from the wicked practices of the Canaanites. Who knows. Maybe those Canaanites are still around, manipulating things at the top.

That is a very astute confession, in as much as we would like to identify exactly what group it is harming so many, it is elusive. Similar to the movie Devil's Advocate, which was a truly frightening example of the spiritual realm and the way it operates. Right now it appears the entire world is being swallowed whole, among families there are seemingly arguments about "nothing", heated emotions and anger, divisiveness over politics and grief over the loss of loved ones.
Yehua help us

 

[matematik]

I'm suspicious of population genetics, haplogroups, etc, because that field is controlled by establishment scientists and big corporations who are likely to give what ever results are most beneficial to the narrative. The mainstream narrative says Jews are Israelites, so of course the scientists are going to say the bulk of Jewish DNA comes from the Levant. No one can really argue with that because they create the science and the Haplogroup definitions, you just have to take their word for it, and it's likely that a large proportion of the scientists and people who run these companies are Jews themselves so obviously will have a vested interest in getting certain results that back up their narrative.

I've always thought that the Khazar theory seems most likely, considering the main proponents of it are Jews themselves and oddly I've never heard any Jews strongly argue against it. It's like on an instinctive level they believe it's true and are almost proud of being Khazars, as well as also claiming to be Israelites. Like a sort of societal cognitive dissonance.

Back during the Maidan uprising in Ukraine, I recall reading a lot about the idea that the Maidan uprising is controlled by Jews with the aim of taking over Ukraine and running it themselves as they see it as their Khazar homeland, a "Second Israel" so to speak. Apparently a very large percentage of Ukrainian MPs post-Maidan are Jews, over 90% some claim, so that does support the idea and the historic location of Khazaria would explain their interest in Ukraine.

However, I think it's also quite possible that the Khazar theory is a cover and misdirection for a Tartarian origin of the Jews, because the two words sound phonologically quite similar and Khazaria and Tartaria are in a similar area geographically. So it may well be that the Khazar theory is based on half-truths, acknowledging a Central Asian origin of Jews, but is ultimately intended to point people in the wrong direction, away from Tartarian origins.

I have my own suspicions as my family comes up English with a bit Jewish, despite the fact that I look like a rabbi and/or terrorist (it depends on how long ago I shaved.) My mother is clearly Central Asian according to her features, but the DNA tests insists she's Scottish.

The scottish themselves claim central asian/eurasian heritage from Scythia, which is the predecessor to Tartaria.

There's also the "British Israelism" thing that used to be popular in Britain in the early 1900s. It's interesting how the old theories that used to be popular in Britain are very different to these "official", mainstream history promoted these days.

 

[solarbard]

I'm suspicious of population genetics, haplogroups, etc, because that field is controlled by establishment scientists and big corporations who are likely to give what ever results are most beneficial to the narrative. The mainstream narrative says Jews are Israelites, so of course the scientists are going to say the bulk of Jewish DNA comes from the Levant. No one can really argue with that because they create the science and the Haplogroup definitions, you just have to take their word for it, and it's likely that a large proportion of the scientists and people who run these companies are Jews themselves so obviously will have a vested interest in getting certain results that back up their narrative.

I've always thought that the Khazar theory seems most likely, considering the main proponents of it are Jews themselves and oddly I've never heard any Jews strongly argue against it. It's like on an instinctive level they believe it's true and are almost proud of being Khazars, as well as also claiming to be Israelites. Like a sort of societal cognitive dissonance.

Back during the Maidan uprising in Ukraine, I recall reading a lot about the idea that the Maidan uprising is controlled by Jews with the aim of taking over Ukraine and running it themselves as they see it as their Khazar homeland, a "Second Israel" so to speak. Apparently a very large percentage of Ukrainian MPs post-Maidan are Jews, over 90% some claim, so that does support the idea and the historic location of Khazaria would explain their interest in Ukraine.

However, I think it's also quite possible that the Khazar theory is a cover and misdirection for a Tartarian origin of the Jews, because the two words sound phonologically quite similar and Khazaria and Tartaria are in a similar area geographically. So it may well be that the Khazar theory is based on half-truths, acknowledging a Central Asian origin of Jews, but is ultimately intended to point people in the wrong direction, away from Tartarian origins.

I have my own suspicions as my family comes up English with a bit Jewish, despite the fact that I look like a rabbi and/or terrorist (it depends on how long ago I shaved.) My mother is clearly Central Asian according to her features, but the DNA tests insists she's Scottish.

The scottish themselves claim central asian/eurasian heritage from Scythia, which is the predecessor to Tartaria.

There's also the "British Israelism" thing that used to be popular in Britain in the early 1900s. It's interesting how the old theories that used to be popular in Britain are very different to these "official", mainstream history promoted these days.

The Ancient British themselves say they descend from the Trojans. Wonder what that really means?

 

[HollyHoly]

Ezekiel 16:

16 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.

 

[solarbard]

Ezekiel 16:

16 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.

That the Hebrews were a Canaanite people is quite clear. But they were called to separate themselves, to ascend to a higher level of ethical living. (And to wage a crusade against human-especially-child sacrifice.) But they instead continually reverted back to their roots. Interestingly, both Amorites and Hittites have a European origin.

 

[HollyHoly]

Ezekiel 16:

16 Again the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,
2 Son of man, cause Jerusalem to know her abominations,
3 And say, Thus saith the Lord God unto Jerusalem; Thy birth and thy nativity is of the land of Canaan; thy father was an Amorite, and thy mother an Hittite.

That the Hebrews were a Canaanite people is quite clear. But they were called to separate themselves, to ascend to a higher level of ethical living. (And to wage a crusade against human-especially-child sacrifice.) But they instead continually reverted back to their roots. Interestingly, both Amorites and Hittites have a European origin.

Yes

 

[Septimus]

Another strange synchronicity came up recently in regards to the hidden history of the Tartarians. This time from an ad for a wonderful mobile game called Rise of Kingdoms.
View: https://youtu.be/z4HzF9dac3c


So the Siberians are really the Tartarians who teamed up with some barbarians and waged a war against the Romans, lost and as a result, were wiped from history?

Let's do some Babel work:
Tartar
Tatar (historically)
Khazar

Could the k and z letters be distorted from t?

Tartarian
Barbarian

 

[matematik]

Something I find odd is how German (Yiddish) is the cultural language of Ashkenazi Jews. Traditionally the language Jews used amongst themselves even in Russia was Yiddish not Russian.

If the Tartarian or Khazar theories are correct, that would mean Jews have been in the area now called Russia for a very long time, so why did they speak a form of German? Influence from Jews in Germany doesn't make much sense because why would they have any particular attachment to German over Russian as their cultural language? Apparently quite a few Jews even wanted Yiddish made the official language of Israel rather than Hebrew.

 

[Worsaae]

The gothic language is german-like. It seems at least plausible that the same was true of the tartarian language.

 

[matematik]

The gothic language is german-like. It seems at least plausible that the same was true of the tartarian language.

There's also a theory that the Slavic languages are a later offshoot of Germanic, which if the Tartarians spoke a form of Old Germanic would make a lot of sense.

 

[MoTruth]

There is also the "chosen-ness" factor to consider. With the idea of choice there is the indication that there were potentially other contender races or groups that could have been "chosen", but in the end, were not. Who or what is making that choice? And what does being "chosen" actually entail? Were they "chosen" by their god to create mischief and mayhem for the innocent races of the world? Who is this god?

On the public front, it is YHWH, the God of the Israelites, a group and name that the modern Jews do not ever actually identify with. You'll never hear a rabbi referring to their god as Yahweh. When referring to "God" in their writings, they always abbreviate "God" with "G-d", indicating a certain kind of superstition and aversion to even mentioning the concept of deity. And when was the last time anyone ever heard of a Jew calling himself an Israelite? Citizens of modern Israel are called Israelis. The Judahites of the scriptures were residents of the land of Judah, not Israel. Even the designation of "Jew" is a modern one, not found in older translations of the scriptures. The Biblical Israelites were told that he that called on the NAME of the lord would be saved. The Jews never publicly invoke the name of their god.

On the private front, their god is Moloch, the god of the Canaanites. The owl symbology is ever present in their rituals, their family crests and coats-of-arms, in addition to the phoenix, along with a plethora of other gods not traditionally associated with the Biblical Israelites.

The Khazars were known to conquer peoples and then to steal their identity. As a marauding people, this could prove quite useful strategically. They could invade other nations under false identities to stir up hatred between target nations and races, the ultimate "false flag" strategy. It would appear that based on this idea, the Khazars conquered the actual Judahites, enslaved them, interbred with them, and ultimately became them. They did not convert to Judaism, but rather created it. The remaining tribes of the Israelites are generally referred to as "The Lost Tribes". Perhaps this is an indication that the imposters failed to capture them, since they dispersed throughout the world, hence were lost to them.

Where this ties into Tartaria is anyone's guess. Perhaps the Khazars, or whatever their designation as a people originally was, also conquered and adopted the identity of the proto-Tartars before becoming the Khazars. When examining "Tartarian" architecture and all of its free-energy foundational capabilities, they would make the ideal target for a parasitic collective to infiltrate and destroy through the process of assimilation. The ability to build such magnificent, awe-inspiring structures would be possible only in an open-sourced, free society of geniuses, tradesmen and artisans with lots of time on their hands, having access to great wealth, the finest of materials and sophisticated architectural and engineering knowledge, not plagued by the wealth-destroying power of usury, the signature trait of these parasites. If Tartaria was originally a slave plantation of these parasites, it would have looked far more like Mordor.

Perhaps they tried to infiltrate and conquer Tartaria many times and were not initially successful and were either taken on as slaves, were relegated to ghettos, or were banished. Being a benevolent and righteous people, perhaps genocide as a "final solution" was not an option on the table for these proto-Tatars. Following their historic pattern, the parasites have been exiled from many European nations because of their nefarious practices of currency manipulation-devaluation, along with ritual child sacrifice and blood consumption. Perhaps this expulsion strategy was an extension of a larger Tartarian policy when dealing with these parasites. But after many attempts and deceptions, perhaps over many generations, the parasites finally succeeded, stealing Tartaria's identity, then systematically erasing them from history, renaming themselves the Khazars.

It makes sense why they would want this erased from our history.

wow i came to this same conclusion last night during my studies and now im readin your comment this morning,.... w

 

[Tapioca]

There are Khazars, Jews, freemasons, and others that are mixed up in this but I don't think that is all.

The Bible is the word of God. He gave us a path to follow. He could have chose anything to put in there and he chose to include those "mixed multitudes" that came along with the Jews during the Exodus.

The Jews were forced to build, "masons." They were controlled by the Egyptian task masters, the "Free Masons". Hence the Egyptian imagery and biblical stories. These other people were still idolaters and evil. They disguised themselves as Jews but never changed their ways. They are the ones that led the Jews to create the golden calf, craved meat instead of manna, and whined about wanting to go back to Egypt. I read the word for meat means "flesh." So that could mean any flesh. These are those "mixed multitudes."

These are not the Khazars. The Khazars were much later.

Israel’s Greatest Enemy: The Erev Rav

"We are told that along with the Israelites came out an Erev Rav (Exodus 12:38), a “mixed multitude” of people that joined them...​

Though they seemingly became “Jewish”, they still retained all of their old idolatrous and immoral ways. Soon after, they instigated the Golden Calf incident...​

They sought to, subtly, convince the Jews to commit a horrific act of idolatry. The Arizal explains that their method was in manipulating people’s da’at, loosely translated as “knowledge” but referring to the deepest layers of the mind (see Sha’ar HaPesukim on Ki Tisa and Balak). They knew how to manipulate people psychologically. In fact, the Arizal points out that the numerical value of Erev Rav (ערב רב) is 474, equivalent to da’at (דעת)! Here we learn our first important point about the Erev Rav: they are masters of deception, subliminal messaging, and brainwashing...​

When the Torah speaks of ‘am Israel, or ‘ami (“My people”), Bnei Israel or Beit Yakov, then we can be sure that it is referring to the true Jewish people, not the Erev Rav imposters. Once we know this, we find that most of the cases where the Exodus generation inexplicably complained or rebelled against God was the ‘am, ie. the Erev Rav. This is why many of them even wanted to return to Egypt! (See Numbers 11:1-5, where they are also referred to as the asafsuf, in addition to ha’am.)"​

 

[Tapioca]

There is also the "chosen-ness" factor to consider. With the idea of choice there is the indication that there were potentially other contender races or groups that could have been "chosen", but in the end, were not. Who or what is making that choice? And what does being "chosen" actually entail? Were they "chosen" by their god to create mischief and mayhem for the innocent races of the world? Who is this god?

They were chosen to follow all the commands, of which there are hundreds. For example: Cheese burgers. They can't mix milk and meat so they are forbidden from eating it. They even use different dinnerware. No one would CHOOSE that. They were chosen by God to do that since they were forced to be.

On the public front, it is YHWH, the God of the Israelites, a group and name that the modern Jews do not ever actually identify with. You'll never hear a rabbi referring to their god as Yahweh. When referring to "God" in their writings, they always abbreviate "God" with "G-d", indicating a certain kind of superstition and aversion to even mentioning the concept of deity. And when was the last time anyone ever heard of a Jew calling himself an Israelite? Citizens of modern Israel are called Israelis. The Judahites of the scriptures were residents of the land of Judah, not Israel. Even the designation of "Jew" is a modern one, not found in older translations of the scriptures. The Biblical Israelites were told that he that called on the NAME of the lord would be saved. The Jews never publicly invoke the name of their god.

The name of God is unknown in Judaism so they abbreviate it. It is so holy for them that they cannot throw anything with "God" in it in the trash. This is why you will find Torah scrolls and prayer books buried under synagogues or other buildings.

There are no vowels in YHWH. How do you know how it is pronounced?

On the private front, their god is Moloch, the god of the Canaanites. The owl symbology is ever present in their rituals, their family crests and coats-of-arms, in addition to the phoenix, along with a plethora of other gods not traditionally associated with the Biblical Israelites.

In the Bible they were specifically to kill the Canaanites. Can you show an example of an owl on a Jewish crest? One that practices real Judaism - not eating cheeseburgers.

The Khazars were known to conquer peoples and then to steal their identity. As a marauding people, this could prove quite useful strategically. They could invade other nations under false identities to stir up hatred between target nations and races, the ultimate "false flag" strategy. It would appear that based on this idea, the Khazars conquered the actual Judahites, enslaved them, interbred with them, and ultimately became them. They did not convert to Judaism, but rather created it. The remaining tribes of the Israelites are generally referred to as "The Lost Tribes". Perhaps this is an indication that the imposters failed to capture them, since they dispersed throughout the world, hence were lost to them.

I would like to know where all this stuff about the Khazars conquering people and stealing identities. For real, I don't know the source for that. If they stole their identity how would you know?

Where this ties into Tartaria is anyone's guess. Perhaps the Khazars, or whatever their designation as a people originally was, also conquered and adopted the identity of the proto-Tartars before becoming the Khazars. When examining "Tartarian" architecture and all of its free-energy foundational capabilities, they would make the ideal target for a parasitic collective to infiltrate and destroy through the process of assimilation. The ability to build such magnificent, awe-inspiring structures would be possible only in an open-sourced, free society of geniuses, tradesmen and artisans with lots of time on their hands, having access to great wealth, the finest of materials and sophisticated architectural and engineering knowledge, not plagued by the wealth-destroying power of usury, the signature trait of these parasites. If Tartaria was originally a slave plantation of these parasites, it would have looked far more like Mordor.

Perhaps they tried to infiltrate and conquer Tartaria many times and were not initially successful and were either taken on as slaves, were relegated to ghettos, or were banished. Being a benevolent and righteous people, perhaps genocide as a "final solution" was not an option on the table for these proto-Tatars.

Following their historic pattern, the parasites have been exiled from many European nations because of their nefarious practices of currency manipulation-devaluation, along with ritual child sacrifice and blood consumption. Perhaps this expulsion strategy was an extension of a larger Tartarian policy when dealing with these parasites.

If they were so powerful, how were they able to be exiled? Eating the body of Christ and drinking his blood is a Christian/Catholic belief. The acceptability of eating and drinking someone is bizarre. Drinking blood is forbidden in Judaism BTW.

But after many attempts and deceptions, perhaps over many generations, the parasites finally succeeded, stealing Tartaria's identity, then systematically erasing them from history, renaming themselves the Khazars.

The parasites renamed themselves the Khazars? You said it was the Khazars that stole identity. Quote - "The Khazars were known to conquer peoples and then to steal their identity."