SH Archive 1900-1915 HD quality photos of the United States cities. Is that normal?

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Username: ripvanwillie
Date: 2019-01-30 08:35:10
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The first image shows some photographers and most likely journalists from a weekly paper. I can't quite make out the name. These photo's have been retouched and digitized, so they look a bit more modern. If we were to see the originals, they'd look much worse I'm sure.new_york_city_early_photo_7b.jpg
 
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Username: SunBard
Date: 2019-07-07 03:25:10
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There goes the "no people in early photographs" idea.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-07-07 03:54:12
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1860s-1870s, for the most part.
 
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Username: ThirdCoast33
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What fine photographs. I will say that film is definitely higher quality than the early digital age of cameras. So long as we keep originals of these old photographs, we can continue to do high quality scans of them (as our scanning technology progresses as well).

What do you think could be the speed of that car turning the corner in the original post? It has motion blur, and we can attempt to approximate the shutter of the camera used.
 
Many of these old photos which are in high quality are composites. I've seen many of them where the photo is populated with people to make it look natural. Other times the composite is a combination of 2 or more shots put together. I spotted several of these on Monovisions, even though not all of them are composites, some are genuine.
For example the guys below which are completely out of place.

atlantic_city_early_photo.jpg

The quality of the photos is a mystery. Either the controllers made these photos with high quality cameras and are spreading them now on internet, as a way to mock us. Or, they have the ability to record an audio-video feed stream from the past and these are screenshots. Think of the film "Deja-Vue" from 2006.

Or, magic crystal balls can really observe a specific location in the past, present and future.
 
Or - the resolution of plate cameras with 5 or 7 inch glass negatives is superior to anything we have today.

For comparison, the basic technical parameters of 78rpm records are more or less a match for CDs.
 
Or - the resolution of plate cameras with 5 or 7 inch glass negatives is superior to anything we have today.

For comparison, the basic technical parameters of 78rpm records are more or less a match for CDs.
Yes, it might be, I'm not denying it. But many of these photos are nonetheless composites, it's really easy to spot irregularities in them. Maybe the buildings were shots with the lenses that you mentioned and then someone later on added more of those and people also, to make it look normal life. Remember the empty cities of the 18-th Century? Someone who knew what happened maybe took those shots as a trophy, however sick and evil it might sound. There is nothing ordinary about these photos.
 
The thing i find most striking is how out of place the wires and advertising looks.
Also the skies are whited out. My mother was born in 1929. Her photo album has all cut out pictures. They just cut around the people and cut all the history out. She said that's how they did it.
From my understanding of photography in this era - the subjects still had to stay still for a long time. How is it possible to now have horses and people mid-step. This did not used to exist. I know that sounds insane - but these shots of things in motion, were not possible... so not sure what is going on?
Quite simply, we've been lied to.
 
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Is there anything they have not lied to us about. Just about every subject, just about everything they told us is a lie. It's really getting to be quite unbelievable. Of course they lied to us about the cameras and their abilities. They lied about just about everything else didn't they?!
 
Chicago worlds fair, unsure of year.
Here is a Paris fair (i think they were yearly there)


nice tartarian emblem, two headed bird,

And again on the church


never mind the over-the-top decoration on cannon and Undersized balls. If a tatary thread opens move this post their
I saw a photograph of a fountain that had a lower wall around it with cannons, so-called, and water was coming out the Cannons that went all the way around the fountain. I don't know why they didn't want us to still have the fountains except for the air quality in the midst. Is fairly easy to get rid of a fountain but how do you get rid of the huge cannon spouts? Oh pretend they were for a war. In one photo I saw several different sizes of cannonballs next to the cannon. Lol.
From my understanding of photography in this era - the subjects still had to stay still for a long time. How is it possible to now have horses and people mid-step. This did not used to exist. I know that sounds insane - but these shots of things in motion, were not possible... so not sure what is going on?
There is an easy answer. We have been lied to. Remember the picture of the guy on a ladder looking into a huge huge camera. Well the larger people that were here used bigger cameras. They were already advanced. And what about the gigantic cello that somebody has. He said they found it in a cave. The people that were here had equipment.
 
I don't know about you, but this quality of the 1900-1915 photography does not quite match my perception, based on the dogmatic education I received. Below are some photos available on the Library of Congress website. The quality is beyond explainable IMHO.
Analog photography is way better and more precise than modern digital pics. You missed 50 years, it was all blurry and slow back there in 1850`s. your pics are from 1900+. It is the same as you would show digital pics from 1970`s and speak of them like they were from 2020.
To me, better point of view are those lightning rods, medieval castles with electricity wires, neo-roman architecture that jumps out of image in between all those cubed buildings, then big doors everywhere, even bigger windows..... It was a mess to warm it up in cold winter days, with all those big windows and doors (like it was no winter back then). I wonder why would 6 feet tall men build those 13 feet tall ceilings, 10 feet tall doors and windows, and they were supposedly poor and illiterate. I am from south eastern Europe, and there is still many buildings like those. They are huge but they only have 2 or 3 floors. Everything is double in size than in modern buildings.
 
I’ve noticed an uptick on the web of “construction” photos for the early world’s fairs. Anyone else notice this, or is it just me?
Indeed there is, good observation, I've noticed the same thing too a year ago. All you have to do is to take a close look at Monovisions.com old photo collection and download a couple of them for the purpose to view the file properties of those photos. You'll be quick to realize that many photos are saved image files from Photoshop.
All you'll need is to have a more professional image viewer software or using a Linux distro as your OS on your PC and wa-la! The truths shall set you free.

I'm not claiming that all images are composites or fakes by the way, but the ones I checked, those really were.
 
You'll be quick to realize that many photos are saved image files from Photoshop.
All you'll need is to have a more professional image viewer software or using a Linux distro as your OS on your PC and wa-la! The truths shall set you free.

I'm not claiming that all images are composites or fakes by the way, but the ones I checked, those really were.

That however can be explained.
The pictures are scanned from old physical records and then uploaded, perhaps in bulk, by an organization such as a university, city council, government, etc.
I would expect that some employee with Photoshop will be properly editing those scans to make them suitable for websites. They have to be.
 
That however can be explained.
The pictures are scanned from old physical records and then uploaded, perhaps in bulk, by an organization such as a university, city council, government, etc.
I would expect that some employee with Photoshop will be properly editing those scans to make them suitable for websites. They have to be.
It is a possibility that some clerk could doctor a bit the old images for web view removing personal information from them before posting, but using Photoshop for such a simple task is not efficient in my opinion. There are far more simple Freewares like Gimp and others which do exactly that, remove watermarks and whatnot for free. Simply put, there is no need for a specialized commercial photo editing software like Photoshop. IMO it doesn't add up, but of course, there might be exceptions to my way of thinking.

And if you take a look at my previews posts in this thread you'll see that some images are composites, those were populated artificially with people and buildings. The contrast of the added parts is highly noticeable even for a non expert photo forensic eye like mine.

Here are two examples of it from Monovision website only.
north-german-lloyd-ships-1890s-vintage-interiors-002.jpg
If those little people are not copy-pastes from other photos, then I don't know what to say. Just take a look at the giant people who are part of the real ship photo which was edited. Look at the sunset and it's reflection on the sea. Does that look like original?
north-german-lloyd-ships-1890s-vintage-interiors-009.jpg
Same thing here. It's a composite image saved as a Photoshop file. And a lot of old photos from the 19th Century are added daily to this website, many are as recent as 2022 or 2023.
Before posting these images here I removed file properties meta-data from them, but anyone can check what I'm saying for themselves by downloading other images and see that Photoshop was used indeed and I don't think it was a simple procedural thing, it just doesn't add up.

Playing devil's advocate is fine, I do it myself some times on ideas and things that I'm not fully convinced.
 
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