Aharonsohn House, Israel: A story of Espionage and Hidden Structures

So at the same time, they're 'parasites', but also 'innocents'. It's a contradiction which makes the 'game' so good.
Before anything else: I do everything on my phone so I have some problems with quoting, links, and autocorrect (Dutch)

BUT thanks for the extended answer.

Up until today I feel as if random jews are both used as bait (they are still subject to bombing by controlled opposition Hamas), and also as "labaratory animals" (look at the vaccine program for example) and if you mention only the slightest thing or question anything, they draw the "booooo! antisemitism" card.

As far as I know, the mizrahi jews were not only discriminated at arrival and then put to the frontline, like: "hey this is the promised land, its YOUR land and look what those Palestines do to you! They blow up your brothers and sisters!"
What turned them now into the most fanatic settlers. It fits info what I saw in 1987.
Just divide and conquer

According to what I found about the Aaronsohn family is that
1. They put the whole community of new settlers in danger with their actions. The jews betrayed them to the Turks.
2. They didn't fit the socialist (almost communist) narrative because they believed in ownership of the land, self determination and working together with te Arabs/Palestines.


The rivalry within Jews, mostly between 'orthodox' and 'Sabbateans
The thing that I once found (but can't find it anymore) is that the orthodox / zionist jews, were not so happy that in Germany and Holland the jews were assimilating, leaving the jewish entity behind.
It is food for the nazi separation rules....

In Holland and Surinam colony there was most certain a divide between the (rich) sephardi and the poor askenazi.
At a time somewhere 1800 or so the costs of poor askenazi jews was so high in Amsterdam for the rich jews, they just put them on ships to, i don't know, "the colonys" just to get rid of the burden.

The sephardi jews sent a letter to the Nazis like:
"We are not those jews that you're after! We are different from the askenazi! We are civilicized high educated people with great value! Please spare us"
They were betrayed just before the war ended and sent to the camps.
 
BUT thanks for the extended answer.

Up until today I feel as if random jews are both used as bait (they are still subject to bombing by controlled opposition Hamas), and also as "labaratory animals" (look at the vaccine program for example) and if you mention only the slightest thing or question anything, they draw the "booooo! antisemitism" card.

You're welcome. I have a lot 'saved up' after a long SH lurking :cool:

'Random Jews' in fact don't get any more actual damage than other groups. They are however subject to a very heavy manipulation, which puts them in a self-centered worldview. Most holidays, religious and secular events revolve around the 'attempts to destroy them', perhaps with the exception of jewish new year. For example:
Passover = Slavery and escape from Egypt (used to be the new year in old calendar, a stolen-history issue by itself)

Israel indeed was an experiment ground for the vaccine, but I think we tend to forget all the medical atrocities done in Africa and Asia for example, on such a larger scale.
'Antisemitism' is a bad joke indeed. I sense a reverse-psychology used to strengthen their relatively new claim of having originated for the Levant, a thing which I don't find proven at all.

As far as I know, the mizrahi jews were not only discriminated at arrival and then put to the frontline, like: "hey this is the promised land, its YOUR land and look what those Palestines do to you! They blow up your brothers and sisters!"
I think Ashkenazi and Mizrahi soldiers suffered the same burden, in the first 50 years at least.
What turned them now into the most fanatic settlers. It fits info what I saw in 1987.
Just divide and conquer

in fact you have some very fanatic 'white' settler groups that would give a good fight to that claim ;)
I'm sure your experience was genuine but you might have only seen just one side of things. Not far from reality though.

According to what I found about the Aaronsohn family is that
1. They put the whole community of new settlers in danger with their actions. The jews betrayed them to the Turks.
2. They didn't fit the socialist (almost communist) narrative because they believed in ownership of the land, self determination and working together with te Arabs/Palestines.

Yes, it makes sense. Jews until WW2 had a tendency to always side with the authorities. It was even normal for Jews to serve on opposing armies in battle. Rabbis even allowed them to consume pork at the frontline. (shows you their dedication to support local armies)
It is also a very known concept among Jews of old times, that it's important to be at best terms with the local rulers, despite their political standing, to ensure the safety of the Jews. Participation in revolts was often prohibited by Rabbis, even for a just cause. It is always 'Zionists' who openly meddle with the non-Jews affairs or smuggle insurgents (like the Aharonsohns).

I'm not sure about Arab-cooperation. The Yishuv started from that stance of employing the trading with Arabs.
The thing that I once found (but can't find it anymore) is that the orthodox / zionist jews, were not so happy that in Germany and Holland the jews were assimilating, leaving the jewish entity behind.
It is food for the nazi separation rules....

In Holland and Surinam colony there was most certain a divide between the (rich) sephardi and the poor askenazi.
At a time somewhere 1800 or so the costs of poor askenazi jews was so high in Amsterdam for the rich jews, they just put them on ships to, i don't know, "the colonys" just to get rid of the burden.

I think it also played to their favor, as they helped 'sacrifice' them, and perpetuated it into the story of the grand jewish massacre, a much needed "ammo" they needed for Israel. Not many know though, but that propaganda really kicked in by the 1960's, when Eichmann was trialed and executed in Israel. It was also the first time that Holocaust testimonials got to the "main stage" in Israeli media. Prior to that, there was this code of silence, a shame. Survivors 'disturbed' the image of the 'native', Jewish warrior settlers.

I think colonies were used to get rid of all kinds of people. But in the same way we could say that Ashkenazi were 'reassigned' to the colonies so that the financial game could extend to the 'new world'. In late 1800's thousands of Morocacn (Sephardi) Jew families immigrated to South America to specialize in the rubber industry, for example.

The sephardi jews sent a letter to the Nazis like:
"We are not those jews that you're after! We are different from the askenazi! We are civilicized high educated people with great value! Please spare us"
They were betrayed just before the war ended and sent to the camps.

The Sephardi simply worked together with the 'enlightened' sect of the Ashkenazi to achieve the goals.
What backs your claim is the Nazi occupation of Morocco, which is so strange that Jewish history just doesn't discuss it.
Morocco's Jews are a very large community. 1940, Vichy France occupies Morocco. While the Jews do get counted and restricted, they get a very different treatment - no camps, no killings. Later, a story was invented about 150 Moroccan Jews that were sent all the way to Auschwitz (from Morocco...). Why would they be sent there, if there was actually a place much closer?:

20,000 French Jews were deported to Morocco and placed in labor camps made only for them. Why no 'extermination'? And, why not send Moroccan Jew prisoners, to the Moroccan camp? What a waste would be, to transport them by trucks, ships and trains. sounds more expansive than a bullet. (which they claim g*s chambers were meant to save on)
Another issue: How could 150 Jews be sent and reported to die in Auschwitz, if killings haven't began there before 1942, when the Allies had already landed in Morocco and seized it? Someone got lazy with the dates I guess.


Interestingly, the moment Morocco was captured by the Allies, pogroms against the Jews began. Were the French in fact protecting them all along?

Bonus fact: Berber Jews (Atlas Mountains)
Those Jews had the important role of being mediums between the tribes of the Atlas, who often engaged in war against each other.
Jews had a special permission to cross tribal borders and negotiate peace or trade.
This coincides with what I explained in the previous post, about the Jews being a caste with a role to play. In Europe they had lost that role, and all this continuous Jewish drama is simply them, working out their plan for the alternative. (Which started off by orthodox seclusion, and now by Zionism)
 
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The Hebrew wiki in fact talks in great joy about the Jewish involvement in Holland which you say the Dutch one 'forgets'. (and local narrative in general does)
I now recall a thread here on SH which described how the Dutch-Jews helped sponsoring and installing William of Orange in England (as part of the process to establish the Bank of England). On that part actually, the Hebrew sources try to downplay the identity of the Jewish involvement. (unlike in more 'popular' events, where they take pride in it)

Why are Jews not so proud of their involvement in England in comparison to Holland? Is it because the British Empire, City of London and Britain generally are widely disliked and criticised, so they want to distance themselves from involvement in anything "British"?

Whereas the Dutch are seen as liberal, tolerant and "cool" so the Jews see it as beneficial to their image to emphasise their involvement in Dutch history/society?
 
Why are Jews not so proud of their involvement in England in comparison to Holland? Is it because the British Empire, City of London and Britain generally are widely disliked and criticised, so they want to distance themselves from involvement in anything "British"?

Whereas the Dutch are seen as liberal, tolerant and "cool" so the Jews see it as beneficial to their image to emphasise their involvement in Dutch history/society?
I believe it's a bit more about "risk management" of the narrative, a calculated move of where there's less chance of dirty things to surface.
Plus GB has more "presence" in the global view, as an empire. All the more reason to distance a Jewish connection.
 
That's a mindblow.
What if he did perform the Mecca ritual?
We have disputes already from Fomenko about Mecca's identity.

Wilhelm visited the Levant extensively, but he never went to Arabia. He did visit Jerusalem and Istanbul - candidates for the real "meccas" of the time.
Of course, it could be he went to the Arabian Mecca, and that was omitted from history. And you could see why. However the PTB often "divert" such events and not "delete" them, so I tend to think it's the Constantinople visit which gave him the credit.

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Another find from Aharonsohn House:

This antique chair is found in the main room. We can see a Star of David in the middle part. The arrow points to what looks like a pentagram above a crescent. Clearly the family chose the chair for its jewish symbol, it was most likely custom designed. Why would those symbols appear there? The pentagram is foreign to judaism. It is however connected with some Christian, Occult, Masonic and Islamic circles. Gotta look further into the furniture, although it's all been tempered with already.

'Inverted pentagram' not such a nice symbol, horns of the devil, Inverted Pentagram
 
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