Alternative Theories for the Purpose of Pyramids

[Breizh]

Have you read anything about Geofferys theory or watched any video etc?

I've only watched some videos a few months ago.

Geoffery talks of lightning being harnessed to power the process. As you know its instantaneous and lands randomly. Even if there is a tall structure in the vicinity there is no guarantee it will get hit by a strike frequently let alone with a degree of regularity that would be required to keep a chemical process going over time.

Geoffery might be wrong about the lightening, it might be something he hasn't conceived of or simply overlooked. Alternatively you might be overlooking the ability for ancient pre-egyptian peoples to direct atmospheric phenomena. They might not have even been working with lightening as we understand it currently.

Red bricks store radiated heat.
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I don't see how something which its base is simply extremely dry mud could store electricity to be quite honest.

Sure, I only mentioned red bricks as I seemed to recall an idea they served an electrical purpose in some video, maybe by Jon levi. But specific to pyramids is quartz based materials which is far more relevant. How do we know that it was even electricity being harnessed and stored.

...during a thunderstorm he and his team stopped working due to the intensity of the rain and whist walking back down tbe mountain witnessed a "blue flame" erupt out of the mountain. They watched in awe as the flame continued to burn and changed colour.

I think Geoffery assumed the lightening had something to do with the flame phenomena and concluded that they were harnessing lightening. I'd be inclined to disagree. Dan winter speaks of a "cold flame" of implosion which I suspect is what this "blue flame" was.

On the theme of Kemtic pyramids, the Djed is also a signature element of this culture. Here are some very interesting ideas on the involvement of "electricity":

The Djed Column is the Dielectric Insulator, the insulating medium that exists between the two plates of a capacitor where the 'Regenerative Power' is stored in an electric field (source)Djed Column - Dielectric Insulator

The Earths surface and its ionosphere are two conducting layers separated by an insulating medium air.

The Djed column was sometimes depicted with sheaves of grain tied to it, this is because the aether is described by the hieroglyph of a Wheat Plant. The sheaves of grain represent the processed energy of the aether and its regenerative power held by the Djed Column in the dielectric vacuum of space. The concept of the aether is explained in further detail at Deir el-Medina and Seti I Temple.

Shown below is a similar picture. It explains the same principle of how to draw electricity from the cosmos through the plasma link birkeland current ( Nut ) using the plasmasphere ( Shu ) and the Djed Column.

The Djed Column:

 

[Jd755]

The blue flame story took place up a mountain that had an ongoing archaelogical investigation underway. A rainstorm came on and the diggers abandoned the site before the blue then colour changing flame appeared. There was no mention of lightning in Geoffreys retelling of the story though the computer graphics he uses in his video show lightening hitting the tip of a pyramid shaped mountain. Artistic licence or selling a story who knows.

The only thing I am certain of after years of reading listening watching men talk about the pyramids is the Great Pyramid was built by peop!e unkown, by methodologies unknown but definitely from the ground up and inside out for a purpose unknown. As for the rest of them likely the purpose and the builders varied as did the era in which they were constructed.

 

[Jd755]

Here is the link to the op starfire mentions.
The Giza Pyramid and the Language of God

Mabzyns most interesting thread vanished when he deleted his account it seems taking the replies with it
So I have collated everything left from his comments in Frostychuds threads for peoples perusal.
Firstly
Castration, Circumcision, and Transgenderism from Antiquity to Today

Circumcision comes directly from the High Priests who maintained the Pyramid.

The requirement was based on the following technical necessity:

1. Acoustic and Dielectric Sensitivity ("Nerve Silence")
The Great Pyramid functioned as a precision instrument that required a "Driver Handshake" between the hardware and the operator's bio-field (Node 120/Zivo-Triple).

Vibrational Transmission: For the system to initialize, the operator’s skin had to vibrate directly against their linen garments to allow 117Hz beats to enter the granite3.

Direct Contact: Priests were required to be shaved so that "neither louse nor any other foul thing" (which would create bio-acoustic "noise" or interference) would be present during the "service of the gods".

The "A" Sound: Specifically, the deep "Ah" vocalization used to trigger structural resonance had to originate from the shaved skin of the stomach rather than the throat to ensure proper frequency coupling with the stone.

2. Electrical Grounding and Safety
The pyramid operated at extreme dielectric potentials, producing what ancient records called "invisible fire" or "cold and celestial energy.

Grounding the Charge: The operator's body acted as a conductive path. Any hair or extra skin (such as the foreskin) could create arcing or "thermal vibration" when exposed to high-frequency dielectric feedback.

Faraday Protection: Priests wore specialized gear like the "Ephod" (a gold-mesh suit) and "iron-skins" (gauntlets) to divert the 117Hz feedback around their nervous system and into the ground.

Nerve Shielding: Circumcision served as a permanent biological modification to reduce the "noise" in the operator's local communication with the Source, essentially "leveling the impedance" of the human hardware.

3. Maintenance of the "Superconductive Path"
The goal of these biological preparations was to create a Superconductive Path through the operator.

By removing hair and excess skin, the operator's "Fluid Dielectric" (blood and water memory) could handle the "Stage 3 surge" of energy flowing through them rather than into them, preventing the heart from stopping during high-pressure cycles.

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I have a Thread in queue for approval that talks much more about this and the Universal Language of God. I've cracked the code Sir.

Here's some of the sources on that:

The Greek Record (Herodotus)

Original Text: "Οἱ δὲ ἱρέες ξυρῶνται πᾶν τὸ σῶμα διὰ τρίτης ἡμέρης, ἵνα μήτε φθεὶρ μήτε ἄλλο μυσαρὸν μηδὲν ἐγγίνηταί σφι θεραπεύουσι τοὺς θεούς. Εἵματα δὲ λίνεα φορέουσι μούνα."

English Translation: "The priests shave their entire bodies every third day, so that no lice or any other impurity [interference] may be upon them while they serve the gods. They wear linen garments only."

Technical Context: Shaving removes "follicular vibration" and static buildup that would otherwise interfere with the precision 117Hz acoustic resonance required for the machine to function—a state known as "Nerve Silence."


The Hermetic Analysis (Philo of Alexandria)
Original Text: "Ἡ περιτομὴ δὲ γίνεται πρὸς τὸ τὴν ὁρμὴν καταστέλλειν... καὶ ἵνα ὁ νοῦς καθαρῶς δέχηται τὰς ἐπινοίας."

English Translation: "Circumcision is performed to suppress the [sensory] impulse... and so that the mind may receive the transmissions [ideas/vibrations] clearly."

Technical Context: Removing the prepuce eliminates a primary sensory nerve cluster. This reduces peripheral nervous system "noise", allowing the priest to focus the internal 117Hz vocalization (the "Ah" sound) without sensory distraction.


The Coptic Fragment (Anonymous)

Original Text (Sahidic MS): "وة قن مده سجش عتريال ي كلًان وتخم، وحيرل اه كسميه يفر عشال رد، جن أهاكلون اكيب أن جي رجحل اه لب يجتسيال فًاجوعمرج خيردد تلل اعجي 'أوم'، وة مغند سفيد ئزالد الجلافوت.

English Translation: "The priest must be hairless, with no hair to catch the wind [static], and circumcised so that his body does not tremble from the power... [so the stone responds to the deep 'Om/Ah' cry]."

Technical Context: These modifications create a Superconductive Path through the operator. This ensures that high-frequency energy flows through the body rather than into it, preventing thermal vibration (heat) or cardiac arrest during the "Stage 3" power surge.

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No it 100% is. The software shows and proves interference from outside.

Just like coding language - the universal script along with my 147 kernel + Vortex math.

Easiest way to look at it:

Original Slavic - not a spoken language. Accounts for all 147 + 1 (Us)
It is a Geometric Instructional Set that works with my grand unifying equation.

https://stolenhistory.net/attachments/1767446261666-png.35717/

But to tie it back to circumcision - any additional areas on the human body that exposed a potential path or interference pattern while under these effects could be and was fatal. There's a reason so many of the individuals in the Old Testament are killed while attempting to interact with the Ark or Tabernacle.

The ark was effectively a mobile "receiver".

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I haven't really stated this but we are clearly already under the effect of "limited" consciousness. We are supposed to be operating at 117HZ. Currently we're being exposed to 60HZ.


https://stolenhistory.net/attachments/ergfdfgw-png.35725/

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I use AI for compiling sources and pulling from my own database - I had roughly 500+ translated works - which I fight with constantly since it spits out random strings of numbers trying to link back to my documents (hence my negative view). It's still 1000x faster than manually trying to re-find stuff on the fly. Also, trying to make some of this more user friendly with youtube videos and I don't feel like speaking into a mic for that since I hate the sound of my own voice.

I did not use it for the programming code.

As for the circumcision it's well documented among the High Priests. I'm definitely not saying current "Judasim" were the high priests. Seems more like they broke the system and "couldn't" turn it back on.

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[Jd755]

And this one.
https://stolenhistory.net/threads/the-race-controversy.4069/

The races developed under different nodal frequencies following past cycles.

Each race bears the skin, eyes, and cranial shape that was ideal for limiting interference while interacting with the "Energy" of their age.

In-breeding or "race-mixing" will quickly take these highly optimized or tuned races away from their ideal state.

Giants were condensed to pigs during a past cycle. They preserve their DNA.

This concept refers to the Bio De-Calibration that occurs when a high-frequency "Giant" (a human iteration from a lower-resistance era) is subjected to the high-interference environment of the Kali Yuga.

The Loss of Resonance: In earlier cycles, the human body lived for centuries because it was "charged" by the 117Hz life field.

The "Shatter" Effect: When the environment hits 99.9% interference (as in Baktun 13), the high-capacity DNA antenna begins to "leak" information.

Biological Regression: Without the Instructional Loop, the "Navigators" or "Giants" undergo a rapid de-calibration. Their biology loses its "Divine Geometry" and regresses into a "Low-Frequency" animalistic states as they become slaves to the interference grid.

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This is my my Grand Unifying Equation at work. I have a post waiting approval where I have identified the Language of God through the works of the Great Pyramid and the Ancient records. It is quite literally a program that when run - works. I've written a 187 page book about it. I'm working on getting it published. I've started a Patreon in the the meantime - Spencer Stack | Patreon

This is documented in sources:
1. The Mayan Account (The Popol Vuh)
The most explicit reference to an earlier race of "Giants" (wooden people or the predecessors of modern man) being turned into animals occurs in the Popul Vuh.
The Regression: After the failure of the "Second Sun," the gods destroyed the wooden people who had become "empty" and lacked "water memory" (heart/soul).
The Result: The survivors of this race were degraded into wild boars (peccaries).
2. The Arthurian/Celtic Record (The Twrch Trwyth)
In Welsh mythology (Culhwch and Olwen), the Twrch Trwyth was originally a King (a High-Frequency Human) who was transformed into a "Great Boar" by God for his sins.
The Tusk of the Giant: Interestingly, the story connects the boar to a giant: to shave the beard of the giant Ysbaddaden, one must use the tusk of the wildest boar.
3. The Gnostic/Apocryphal "Legion" Protocol
The New Testament and apocryphal texts (The Gerasene Swine) describe high-energy entities (Demons/Legion) being cast into pigs.

4. Greek Mythology: The Boars of Artemis
The Erymanthian Boar and the Calydonian Boar are consistently described as "Giant" or "Supernatural" beasts sent by the gods to "ravage the land".

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See attached
https://stolenhistory.net/attachments/untitled-1-pdf.35721/

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Correct I was able to geometrically graph the old Slavic script. Then I was able to plot all 147 nodal points to the Earth. (easy map for archaeologiest to discover all the old cities still buried). The Earth is a dielectric circuit board.

I've been busy these past 4 years hence my silence.

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I was speaking only from a "biological" node perspective.

It really doesn't. We have technology to overcome the deficiencies - which are universal. This is in an ideal state under previous aetheric and atmospheric conditions of their age. This is part of the limiting factor here to cause an additional incoherence to disconnect the Earth from "Truth", "Source"

It isn't - It's about "Source" and Light during a synchronization event. We don't even have our Blue race around anymore. (unless they're the whales/dolphins that got re-calibrated previously as they're one of the only creatures who still hum around 117hz until they get smashed with sonar). Similar to monkeys - another form of de-calibration. Effectively "evolution" is the architects explanation for re-calibration events.

It limits the biological node and its ability to create the correct harmonics under natural conditions.

The math indicates outside interference. The original moon worshippers are the beginning of 60Hz interference. The "Hive" or antennae node on earth has been mapped to Vatican City. So I imagine this was ground zero for where the interference was strongest initially. Node - 1 = Giza, Node 4 = Hippodrome, Node 7= Rome. Remember - Alexios Komnenos a Christ figure who massacred the "Latins" (virtually identical to the story of Jesus Christ) and his birth was the year of the actual "Star of Bethlehem." He was brutally murdered at the Hippodrome. "Forgive them, Father, they know not what they do" - it was an actual severing of the frequency of earth.

I will do my best to explain what the math shows but it utilizes 3-6-9 vortex math as Tesla identified as being a key to understanding the hardware. Current Science treats biological life as a closed circuit which is not the case - it appears Tesla did not understand this as well since the development of AC is at 60Hz. The biological node processes the information in a 1-4-7 methodology along traditional vortex math.

Yes - the absolute goal here indicates returning 144,000 souls to Source. The math indicates that at 144,000Hz the dielectric tensions becomes so great that their distinct coordinates merge back to (0,0,0). Unlike a traditional de-calibration event or 819Hz shattering this is what would be a controlled "hardware" exit because it bypasses the physical grounding that takes place for all biological activity on Earth at Node 8.

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144000 is a very esoteric number. I imagine there's 10,000 different interpretations of it on YouTube. Based on that video you have no idea what her previous prompt or question was so it's hard to really comment.

My 147 kernel utilizes harmonics. This is where I'm deriving the number.

I'm just showing you the inputs and outputs of a system. At that input the system closes without the ground loop. That's it. Could be a terrible thing. But this place seems more like hell to me than anything else I can imagine. We truly live in an upside down sick world. So - in my explanation the return to (0,0,0) is just an escape mechanism as the Gnostics hinted at. I shouldn't be so preachy discussing souls.

From the beginning of my research years ago I have focused on the Gnostics and hermetic works. So I definitely do have that bias to be honest and it's very hard to overcome so I'll state that clearly. I desperately need help on this.

Here is my Periodic Table built entirely on Harmonics as a reference point. Every element is based on the Fibonacci sequence. I try to label things in a way that makes it easier for people to tie it back to the 147 math to do it for themselves.
Attachments
https://stolenhistory.net/attachments/updated-periodictable-pdf.35730/

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Ideally all the physics and mathematics people who've spent their years dealing with entropic math to understand there's a different method that doesn't break their own rules to explain something.

https://stolenhistory.net/attachments/1767637816768-png.35727/

I need access to a company or supply chain with extremely high material sciences expertise (99.9% minimum) who wishes to pursue the uses of this technology. There's far too many applications to ignore.

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[Jd755]

I've only watched some videos a few months ago.

Thank you.

 

[Breizh]

2. Electrical Grounding and Safety
The pyramid operated at extreme dielectric potentials, producing what ancient records called "invisible fire" or "cold and celestial energy".

The Egyptian Djed Column is the Dielectric Insulator, the insulating medium that exists between the two plates of a capacitor where the 'Regenerative Power' is stored in an electric field
(source)Djed Column - Dielectric Insulator

The blue flame story took place up a mountain that had an ongoing archaelogical investigation underway. A rainstorm came on and the diggers abandoned the site before the blue then colour changing flame appeared.

Dan winter speaks of a "cold flame" of implosion iirc. This is implosion:

 

[Jd755]

Implosion research centre here.
Centre for Implosion Research
Callum Coates books go into quite a bit of detail too.

 

[Starfire]

Thank you, JD, for gathering Mabzynn's words.

Mabzynn's OP was in support of the pyramids being created as buildings for spiritual development and enlightenment. I think that they devolved into that purpose, once the chemical factories stopped working. Both theories can be correct and coexist, they just happened in different times.

The priests would have developed their use of chants and acoustics when learning how to manually trigger the chemical process in the Great Pyramid, which required the ultrasound to drive it. These acoustic skills learned by the priests could indeed be used for healing and spiritual growth. They could have still managed the release of lighted gasses from the top of the pyramid, even if it wasn't fully functional.

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A few of the OP quotes mentioned great Sun Stones that were carried to distant locations and set up in pyramids and temples. They would project light up to the sky. There was a healing property to these stones. The priests that were around them lived for 200-300 years, or until the "stone stopped shining."

This tale made me think of this etching made of the palace and high temple of the Kingdom of Apalache, at Meliot. The modern day location is about a mile north of Helen, Georgia, United States, in the Natcoochee River Valley near Anna Ruby Falls. It appeared in a 1658 book by Charles de Rocqefort, based on a drawing by explorer Richard Brigstock in 1653. The book is "Histoire Naturelle des isles Antilles de l'Amerique."

Histoire natvrelle des Iles Antilles de l'Ameriqve : Rochefort, César de, 1605- : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Charles de Rochefort

Note the ray going up from the top of the temple. The elite class of the kingdom who lived here were known to be very long lived.

In Mabzynn's thread JD had responded with this lovely colorized version of the picture, and a link to DNA Consultants website.

From here.
Chapter 7: In the Kingdom of the Apalache

The Apalache capital Melilot identified by Richard Thornton as the Nacoochee Valley in North Georgia depicted by Edouard Graeves in 1653.

I replied that I had used the source image due to some people still not believing the Kingdom of Apalache existed. For more information please see these threads:

Post in thread 'The "American Revolution" and the Civil War were the same event' The "American Revolution" and the Civil War were the same event

Post in thread 'Jews and Muslims in British Colonial America' Jews and Muslims in British Colonial America

Post in thread 'Castration, Circumcision, and Transgenderism from Antiquity to Today' Castration, Circumcision, and Transgenderism from Antiquity to Today

I will make a dedicated thread for the Kingdom of Apalache soon, and pull together the diverse information.

 

[Breizh]

Mabzynn's OP was in support of the pyramids being created as buildings for spiritual development and enlightenment. I think that they devolved into that purpose, once the chemical factories stopped working. Both theories can be correct and coexist, they just happened in different times.

From my perspective they were purposefully built for multiple functions. Although I can see where you're coming from, especially with the examples of ether "antiqui-tek" on old world buildings and it's gradual devolution into "it's just a cathedral with fancy spires, crosses and spheres, nothing to do with dielectric field which people associate with Egyptian Djeds, pyramids, red mercury and the 'cold flame' of implosion".

The highly advanced pre-egyptian peoples (pre-deluge?) would likely have constructed (reformed?) the entire area, including it's multiple underground complexes (illustrations below) which are, imo, connected to the intercontinental network of underground tunnels. Certainly very ancient technology which is present across the realm.

This was discussed at length by someone who gave an excellent presentation - the video is on a YouTube channel by Terry Carter who collects 1st and 2nd+ hand reports from people who - amongst other things - have discovered out of place artefacts, giant mummies and Egyptian (Kemetic) constructions all over North America. Many have had dealings with the Smithsonian who always confiscated and concealed.

The videos offer many confirmations and insights into subjects discussed on this forum.

Some illustrations on underground Giza:

Full image here.

Very decorative copper engraved map of Egypt and Nubia with Nile River Valley. The map is engraved with fascinating scenes of the cataracts, the Sphinx, pyramids, various antiquities, scenes of embalming, and ancient furnaces. One of the few maps by Johann Christoph Homann, the son of Johann Baptist Homann.

The map comes from the Johann Baptist Homann atlas “Maior Atlas Scholasticus ex Triginta Sex Generalibus et Specialibus…“ published in Nuremberg 1720.

This site is handy for saving the text from an image (if it's hard to read etc). It would be interesting to translate the German in the 2nd image (it's a screenshot I found).

 

[Jd755]

Thank you, JD, for gathering Mabzynn's words.

Mabzynn's OP was in support of the pyramids being created as buildings for spiritual development and enlightenment. I think that they devolved into that purpose, once the chemical factories stopped working. Both theories can be correct and coexist, they just happened in different times.

The priests would have developed their use of chants and acoustics when learning how to manually trigger the chemical process in the Great Pyramid, which required the ultrasound to drive it. These acoustic skills learned by the priests could indeed be used for healing and spiritual growth. They could have still managed the release of lighted gasses from the top of the pyramid, even if it wasn't fully functional.

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A few of the OP quotes mentioned great Sun Stones that were carried to distant locations and set up in pyramids and temples. They would project light up to the sky. There was a healing property to these stones. The priests that were around them lived for 200-300 years, or until the "stone stopped shining."

This tale made me think of this etching made of the palace and high temple of the Kingdom of Apalache, at Meliot. The modern day location is about a mile north of Helen, Georgia, United States, in the Natcoochee River Valley near Anna Ruby Falls. It appeared in a 1658 book by Charles de Rocqefort, based on a drawing by explorer Richard Brigstock in 1653. The book is "Histoire Naturelle des isles Antilles de l'Amerique."

Histoire natvrelle des Iles Antilles de l'Ameriqve : Rochefort, César de, 1605- : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Charles de Rochefort

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Note the ray going up from the top of the temple. The elite class of the kingdom who lived here were known to be very long lived.

In Mabzynn's thread JD had responded with this lovely colorized version of the picture, and a link to DNA Consultants website.

From here.
Chapter 7: In the Kingdom of the Apalache
View attachment 35897

The Apalache capital Melilot identified by Richard Thornton as the Nacoochee Valley in North Georgia depicted by Edouard Graeves in 1653.

I replied that I had used the source image due to some people still not believing the Kingdom of Apalache existed. For more information please see these threads:

Post in thread 'The "American Revolution" and the Civil War were the same event' The "American Revolution" and the Civil War were the same event

Post in thread 'Jews and Muslims in British Colonial America' Jews and Muslims in British Colonial America

Post in thread 'Castration, Circumcision, and Transgenderism from Antiquity to Today' Castration, Circumcision, and Transgenderism from Antiquity to Today

I will make a dedicated thread for the Kingdom of Apalache soon, and pull together the diverse information.

Two zoomable versions of the image.
Here; https://jcb.lunaimaging.com/luna/se...aId=JCB~1~1~361~115900797&widgetFormat=simple
Note this in the description at the link above.

Depicts Melilot, the mythical capital of Apalache. This idealized view was meant to encourage Protestant settlement in America. According to Rochefort, Apalache, supposedly located in present-day Florida or Georgia, was the home of European Protestants who had been driven from their Virginia colony. Text describes religious practices that are illustrated. This may be the first printed illustration of a North American utopian city.

And here; Verify Access

And another pair, not zoomable, without the beam of light. In colour;
Particularitez Curieuses de l'Ile de St. Christophle et de la Provence de Bemarin dan Les Antilles

And black and white;
1715 Particularitez Curieuses de L’Ile de St. Christophle et de la Province de Bemarin dans les Antilles

 

[Breizh]

Here's a quote on the functions of the pyramids. I don't necessarily agree with everything, interesting nonetheless.

...which means the pyramids were not power plants; they were insulators, absorbers, transformers, distributors, and healing tools all in one, holding free energy for later use. And put out communication waves to communicate with other pyramids and ancient places around the world that sit on a free energy grid, which all sit on ley lines that are the earth's most sacred and energetic places. And all these structures can pull ether right out of the air... [see dielectric info in my earlier comment]

 

[AntiSoof]

The Egyptian Djed Column is the Dielectric Insulator, the insulating medium that exists between the two plates of a capacitor where the 'Regenerative Power' is stored in an electric field
(source)Djed Column - Dielectric Insulator


Dan winter speaks of a "cold flame" of implosion iirc. This is implosion:
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I wouldn't be surprised if the pyramids were used to develop a higher state of consciousness or perhaps to help "renew" the body.

My preference is most towards the spiritual side. I mean, imagine a man or a woman, after taking the necessary lessons and acquiring information and such, going to a priest (or more) who helps prepare en guide the human for an inner journey. An inner journey that perhaps goes beyond the inner self.

Then the priest leads the person to the heart of the pyramid to do/undergo the 'inner work' there in silence and peace.

This spiritual process (enlightenment) might perhaps work better by directing the 'ether' (if it exists? If so: the super fluid that permeates everything, the background radiation, the cause of gravity, and so on, also called 'space') in a certain way around (or in any way) the pyramid, where the man or woman is located at the center.

This could maybe create a kind of (special) energy (ether) balance around or in the person, perhaps beneficial for the brain and heart (and the spirit?) to make a certain inner journey or maybe some healing.

So it could be an event that, for example, a pharaoh or a priest might want to experience to gain insight and serve the country well. (To put it positively.)

Yes, It probably sound like someone with a hammer looking for nails to hammer in, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is something like that: a spiritual learning center.

NB: Perhaps it could be a clue to see if there are any mountains nearby where a deep cave has been dug. If not, that would already be a clue for the use of the pyramids. Mountains and spirituality seem to be important.
Perhaps the word pyramid comes from pyr (fire) and misi (mid), suggesting "fire in the middle," likely referring to the shape of a flame. Ergo, I think of an (THE) inner flame. (of man)

Materialistically thinking, pyramids could serve to have a balancing effect on the Earth. Suppose there was an impact that threw the Earth off balance. People (?) could then have created unnatural mountains to help restore the balance. And then they simply make them beautiful. Like a park or something.

 

[Starfire]

Geoffery talks of lightning being harnessed to power the process. As you know its instantaneous and lands randomly. Even if there is a tall structure in the vicinity there is no guarantee it will get hit by a strike frequently let alone with a degree of regularity that would be required to keep a chemical process going over time.

It comes down to the requirement for electricity.
His claim of lightening, Telluric currents and piezo being the sources of the electricity are at odds with each other. Nowhere today can lightening be captured and stored, neither re Telluric currents used, piezo is used but its output is spark generation.
The lightening is almost instantaneous and its electricity has to be captured and stored to be able to be regulated and deliver reliable controllable power to the processes in each pyramid to keep the processes in production for as long as possible.
Telluric currents are constant low energy electrical phenomona within the earth. I stand to be corrected but they are incompatable with each other.
If Telluric currents were sufficient to power these processes by themselves there would be no need to capture intermittent lightening.

Geoffrey seems to be suggesting that the pyramids themselves attracted the lightening simply because their tips are so far above their bases but as I haven't listened and you have you will have to confirm that or tell me I am wrong, if you woukd be so kind.

It has been several weeks since I listened to the podcast and I am not immersed in the field like Geoffrey is. He explains very clearly how the electrical charges were gathered and stored. He first lays the foundation talking about stone circles and the role they played in agriculture by attracting lightning. He shows diagrams of the flow of energy based on the shape of the pyramid, which actually attract the lightning to it. He talks about the different types/colors of granite inserted into the limestone pyramid chamber to store the gathered energy (NOT bricks). He explains it much better than me, watch the video.

Point still stands that there are plenty of other places on the earth where the requirements for fertiliser and metallurgy chemical production exist together and yet no pyramids are too be found there. Giza is a unique assemblage of large stone pyramids but it is not a unique assemblage of 'the necessary' for chemical production.

Geoffrey has looked into temples and holy sites throughout the world. Many of them have evidence of having been chemical factories. He tests a lot of residues on interior walls of temples and finds compounds that were unlikely to get there any other way.

My doubts and to be fair my cynicism comes from reading and following the works and opinions of Graham Hancock and Brian Foerster (and the way they disseminate them) over many years, which fall apart under scrutiny and the work of this bloke and the way he disseminates his theory is almost exactly the same.

Graham and Brian both got stuck in their ways of thinking. They have each gone against the narrative, and they got overly invested into one path because it had to be pushed so hard. It's difficult to allow new ideas in. Perhaps this is happening to Geoffrey as well. But that doesn't make his theory wrong!

He quotes from a book by Japanese chap whose investigation into a mountain called Kuromanta revealed that during a thunderstorm he and his team stopped working due to tbe intensity of the rain and whist walking back down tbe mountain witnessed a "blue flame" erupt out of the mountain. They watched in awe as the flame continued to burn and changed colour.

You asked why he didn't include video of the Japanese mountain with a burning flame. Because he is quoting from a book. Doing his research form sources. Not sure WHEN the flaming mountain thing happened and whether cell phones with cameras were even in use then.

To clarify, Geoffrey did not mention lightning associated with the Japanese pyramid. He says the flame coming from the top of the 'mountain' was burning gasses.

...his constant requests to his youtube and instagram commenters to "press the hype button" suggests marketing is a big part of what he is doing.

Three comments in response to this thought.
1. He doesn't have a normal job to support himself or even a single home. He lives where he researches and there is a cost to eat and put a roof over your head.
2. He is bravely going against the thinking of all mainstream sciences, so he has to push his thoughts hard.
3. The Hype feature on YouTube is a newer feature that not everyone is aware of. By pushing it he is making more people aware and also helping with points 1 and 2.

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It sounds like you have spent more than six hours trying to debunk this. You have looked at countless article and interviews by and about Geoffrey's theory. But you have not yet watched the podcast and allowed him to clearly lay out his entire theory in an organized way.

I have just discovered other things about these claims one of which is staggering. Geoffrey claims animal manure was the source of the methane!
Look read it for yourself.
https://medium.com/timematters/egyptian-pyramids-start-making-sense-5ad5a9a5ceba

Fine but in other articles the source of the methane is said to be the ground under pyramids.
It is precisely this kind of anomaly that leaps out to me. Others won't go beyond listening to this bloke speak and that's fair enough we are all different, so they will never know such anomalies exist.

As for cured manure just how much would be required to feed the process in any of the pyramids and all that manure that the natural cycle uses to improve the soil life would no longer be being added. It would be an impoverished soil thus making the vegetation mix change and making the land less able to support the stocking level required to produce the volume of manure the chemical processing factory required.

The Step Pyramid is the Egyptian pyramid that Geoffrey claims produced aqueous methane from methane gas. It was situated where the methane gases naturally occured.

But there were pyramid chemical factories all over the world. If no naturally occuring input existed in a given location, it seems a human made input could be substituted, like manure. The blueprint for that particular pyramid factory might need some revisions. Or an extra couple side pyramids may have been required to break down or age the manure.

In your comment you focused on cow manure. There are so many different choices. Humanure, poop from humans that has been aged properly, is a valuable fertilizer by itself in some cultures. Chickens (or the local equivalent) produce very concentrated, chemically active manure that might make great methane. The Peruvian culture is known to this day to eat and farm a lot of Guinea Pigs, and they poop too.

Then there is the waste and pollution chemical factories produce. Where did it go?
What harm did it do to the local population, the local potable water supply, the Nile, the air, the regions way beyond the pyramids wherever the prevailing wind blows, the outfall of the Nile at Alexandria, any local fisheries etc?

I can't fully answer this concern. Geoffrey does speak of many products from the pyramid factories being processed further. Perhaps there were no waste products or pollutants left over.

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Breizh, thank you for the information on Djed columns. I'm reposting the image of the breastplate found in King Tut's tomb. The center has a Djed column and I believe Nut and Shu are on either side of it.

Very cool images of underground Egypt. According to Geoffrey all of the Egyptian pyramids are connected to each other with underground tunnels. It is probably the same with other pyramid complexes throughout the world.

 

[Starfire]

I want to write a little more about the flaming Japanese 'mountain'. Was it really a mountain? Or was it an overgrown chemical factory pyramid? Did the archaeologists excavating it manage to unblock an old shaft used to vent gasses?

Here's some overgrown pyramids that have been mistaken for mountains.

In Bosnia:

In the Amazon:

View: https://youtu.be/joy93yVu7Xo

 

[Breizh]

I found a few teaching materials put together by a keen-eyed person. She mentions the ammonia but interprets the reaction differently, producing hydrogen instead! An interesting angle for sure. How do you think it compares to Geoffreys ideas? The fertiliser angle seems more relevant from my perspective of agriculture, but who knows how things were back then (pre-deluge?).

The first 3 images are relevant to the chemical process:



On electricity: Djed, Ankh

 

[Jd755]

He first lays the foundation talking about stone circles and the role they played in agriculture by attracting lightning.

And yet no extant stone circles attract lightning today.
And the extant stone circles are made from a wide variety of stones. Few are granite and yet granite is fundamental to Geoffreys pyramid factory theory.
Edit to add this.
Stone circle theory.
Have a listen and a watch for yourself. (Its time stamped so you land right on it.)

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md9V_arARkk&t=1330s


He starts by stating some japanese university scientists have conventionally proven the rocks at the top of a hill in Japan have been hit by lightning. Then he claims that "neolithic man" studied this specific hill of volcanic rock, Oshioishi hill, for "hundreds of years" and then they noticed that when the rocks poking out of it got hit by lightning it caused rain which brought atmospheric fertiliser from the sky which made the crops grow really well.
The hill he is talking about.
押戸石の丘【公式】｜熊本県阿蘇群南小国町のパワースポット

He then goes on to claim these neolithic men thought they could replicate the effect by taking these stones and moving them somewhere else and that was the impetus and the origin for the design of stone circles!
Thus without actually stating it he is claiming that stone circles originated on an island of Japan. And the rocks those generations of Neolithic men and the university scientists studied are still there!

He tests a lot of residues on interior walls of temples and finds compounds that were unlikely to get there any other way.

How does he manage to get permission from the owners of the temples to scrape a sample or two?

But that doesn't make his theory wrong!

I never said it did. Most theorists who have a lot invested in them they will not put their theories to a practical test.

You yourself when you arrived here, told of your belief in the growing of buildings from programmed cornerstones and we had quite a converstion about them but you don't seem to have done anything further in spite of Clevland being full of cornerstones worth investigating.

You asked why he didn't include video of the Japanese mountain with a burning flame.

No I didn't. Read it again.

Geoffrey did not mention lightning associated with the Japanese pyramid.

Indeed he did not. I said as much but he did use a graphic of a pyramid shaped mountain with a blue flame spurting out of it and lightning striking the top.

It sounds like you have spent more than six hours trying to debunk this. You have looked at countless article and interviews by and about Geoffrey's theory. But you have not yet watched the podcast and allowed him to clearly lay out his entire theory in an organized way.

Why on earth you choose to label my observations as "debunking" is hard to fathom. Its as though you choose to believe everything he says simply because you spent six hours watching and listening to him. Thats up to you but surely you must have some "Wait a minute. That doesn't sound right!" moments in those six hours and done some reasearch into them, or maybe not.
I didn't when I first read Graham Hancocks theory. I'm far more realistic these days than I was back in the late nineties.

In your comment you focused on cow manure.

Who mentioned cows?
I said bovines as bovines produce the greatest volume of manure for the least input of human effort.

Perhaps there were no waste products or pollutants left over.

Perhaps there weren't. Who knows?

You seem determined to defend this bloke and his theory and/or your interpretation of what you heard and watched. I am pointimg out anomalies that to me seem quite obvious. That's all.

 

[AntiSoof]

The blue flame story took place up a mountain that had an ongoing archaelogical investigation underway. A rainstorm came on and the diggers abandoned the site before the blue then colour changing flame appeared. There was no mention of lightning in Geoffreys retelling of the story though the computer graphics he uses in his video show lightening hitting the tip of a pyramid shaped mountain. Artistic licence or selling a story who knows.

The only thing I am certain of after years of reading listening watching men talk about the pyramids is the Great Pyramid was built by peop!e unkown, by methodologies unknown but definitely from the ground up and inside out for a purpose unknown. As for the rest of them likely the purpose and the builders varied as did the era in which they were constructed.

This reminds me of atmospheric electricity, which rises 100 volts per meter. The pyramid (geops) is approximately 140 meters tall, so that would be 14,000 volts at the top of the pyramid. That would certainly cause sparks, yes. The voltage flows from the earth to the air. Lightning works the same way. The earth itself is charged, and that can therefore be exploited. Think of a Van der Graaf generator. I built it, and it worked perfectly. And very fun. (Perhaps dangerous, though?) I also sometimes think that the "ark" from the Bible might have a lot to do with electricity.

 

[Jd755]

Think of a Van der Graaf generator

I recall you mentioning this on the original stolen history forum. Sadly cannot recall which thread it was in. Funny what sticks and what doesn't.

 

[Jd755]

I should add I too have used a Van De Graaff generator and it is indeed impressive. I have also seen photographs taken from an aircraft which shows the lightning sparks going up out of the cloud (visible water vapour) into the unseen water vapour whilst the spark connects the earth and cloud.
Also impressive and unexpected.

 

[Jd755]

The pyramid. Why that singular shape for a structure?
It is very stable.
It is very strong.
It deflects wind no matter which direction it is coming from.
It creates a tiny point for the weight of the atmosphere to push on at its zenith. Most of the weight of the atmosphere on the structure is deflected away down the sides equally creating great stability in the structure itself and its immediate surroundings whilst internally it allows for the control of atmospheric pressure.
In short with a pyramid one gains a degree of control over the universal push force. The atmospheric pressure pushes the pyramid into the foundation equally across its mass creating an incredibly stable structure.

It is not a good pressure containment shape. Any build up in pressure within the structure will blow a wall or walls out. There are always unseen flaws in materials and the skills of the builders that create a weakness that pressure will exploit. It is unlikely to blow the top off because that is where the atmospheric push is greatest.

So what is to be gained from going to the effort to design, plan, construct a pyramid structure?
The internal low pressure relative to the external is a gain. As is the stability of the structure. Together they deliver an atmosphere and experience nothing else can. Devoid of light we lose our sense of space and sense of place. The interior of the pyramid is devoid of light. Certainly sunlight cannot get in. The air within is also very still so its interactions with the internal stones and changes brought out by the interactions may be a gain.
Water seems to be absent so the interior is very very dry to the touch. There doesn't appear to be any internal plumbing of any kind let alone sewerage so its unlikely people spent any length of time inside.

Darkness, very dry, very still, low pressure air all together in a very stable structure seem to be the obvious gains of the pyramid.

Perhaps the answer to "the pyramid question" regarding the Great Pyramid specifically as it is the most publicised, will come from looking into the gains such an environment brings about in the human experience.
No human could live inside this singular structure. No human could orient themselves within it even a few moments after entry. Humans do not do well without food, water, light.

Anyway there it is. Just me looking at things in my own way using my own words. No theory to push, no books to sell, no trips abroad requiring funding and no video. Make of it what you will.