Coronavirus: Possible Reset

[Safranek]

What are the most succesfull ways to captivate their attention (and to eventually make them doubt the mainstream narrative) according to your experience 'on the field'?

I usually start with an innocent comment about someone with their mask pulled partially down like saying that there's one smart person who's more afraid of a run-down immune system due to lack of oxygen while overdosing on hydrogen monoxide. And since my mask is a plexi-mask with the sides open so I can clearly breathe, I say it in a joking kind of way. Often there are return comments and I seize those to proceed slowly into the scientific aspects. Often I get asked where I got my unique mask and how I can go into shops with such an 'open' mask, and that opens up the opportunity to explain why I wear such a mask scientifically. This is one example I use often, joking and sarcasm toward the mandates.

Its not hard to take many (but not all ) people out of the mainstream narrative as most already have a basic distrust against the government de-jour and all I have to do is to remind them how many times they've been lied to by them. Additionally, I mention that anyone who ACTUALLY BELIEVES that the millionaires behind their governments of the day and big pharma have their best interest at heart are sadly but obviously living in a fairy-tale. I quote George Carlin and tell them that "They don't care about you, they don't give a f*ck about you at all, at all, AT ALL. This, I find, is not so hard for them to believe. Once you have thus established that the governments are non-caring liars for their masters, you can take them further down the road to reality.

And what are the most common answers you receive against what you say? And what are your counter-answers?

When people give me mainstream info in their defense, I remind them how many times in history their mainstream info turned out to be plainly wrong and refer them to the YT search "same news" to show that everything is scripted. I also point out that I won't argue a subject I haven't researched well from all sides, and I politely tell them that unless they actually take the time themselves to look up the info regarding the ACTUAL science behind the claims in the epidemic, they can't contribute much to the conversation except to believe or not believe, or whom to believe, but in any case its ALL beliefs and not actual knowledge. Naturally, I quote academic journals, research papers and conflicting opinions where necessary (have to know what you're talking about) and I stick to only the plain facts and don't go into conjecture.

Counter-arguments are always mainstream so they are predictable and you can only break them down by showing the lies and to invoke people's natural distrust of their governments and politicians. When they quote the doctors who go along, I quote the doctors risking their careers in large numbers who DO NOT go along and stand up on the side of true science.

I try to smile and keep the same demeanor as when I start with the jokes and the sarcasm and so I don't come across as someone trying to convince them but instead use the question and answer form best applicable to this.

I feel I have succeeded upon leaving, when I managed to hugely emphasize that everyone must use their god-given COMMON SENSE above all to not ignore these facts. So my last encouragement is always to have people use their common sense regarding masks, lock-downs, the unreasonable methods applied to 'isolation' of 'positive' cases.

And the big question that's probably the toughest to deal with is the "Then how come so many are dying in the hospitals and how are they so overcrowded?"

I tell them to query "film your hospital" on Bitchute or Rumble or any alternatives to YT as they have already purged those. I also tell them to do their research and find that the protocols for treating lung infections (pneumonia) have been changed from their regular effective Clarithromycin antibiotic treatments to putting people on ventilators and quote the Romanian pulmonologist who cured all her so-called CV patients with the same protocol she's been using for the last 20+ years.

The key is patience and sincerity when talking so as not preach but to steer people to question the narrative by providing info and invoking common sense.

The more I do it, the more natural it becomes and it seems to just flow naturally. I recommend it to all who have the time and patience to enlighten those who are curious and inquisitive.

What I do NOT do is to go into the Graphine, Magnets, Germ Warfare arguments, when they are brought up I mention that while anything is possible, we must stick to known science and use common sense and not believe every new idea sent viral over the web.

I stress what is known:

1. No isolated virus
2. PCR-test proven to be useless
3, No possibility of an effective vaccine against a non-existing thing as CV can only be CV when the claimed cause has been truly isolated and peer-reviewed as such.

Beyond these 3 things its anyone's guess, but these 3 are enough to break down the whole narrative.

 

[Collapseinrealtime]

The recent developments confirm my idea that with covid we are looking at the biggest cultural shock since the world wars, or maybe even since the industrial revolution.

Right now in many parts of the world there is a sense of euphoria in people protesting - a decentral movement of protests is starting in Germany. People are waking up.

This is the first time since world war 2 that something is happening that touches people in their core, where people realize that they need to fight to protect their lifes. Life has become so meaningless, we have forgotten what to fight for. It's all just hedonism, there is no porpose left. But now people are reconnecting with a purpose, with something bigger than themselves.

And this can be very liberating, because everyone who realize this no longer has anything to lose.

Just like Jean-Paul Sartre said:

"Never were we freer than under the German occupation. We had lost all our rights, and first of all our right to speak. They insulted us to our faces. ... They deported us en masse. ... And because of all this we were free.... Every moment we lived in the fullest sense..."​

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And I do not believe that the PTB have not foreseen this and included it in their equations. I believe that with the coronavirus they have started a brilliantly evil self-destruction process of the modern nation states. They are destructing from within. And not one politican is realizing this. They are all digging their own graves.

Brilliantly evil because many people will actually cheer for the new NWO system, because it will start by getting rid of the corrupt political systems we have today.

I always had this idea, but now it's becoming self-evident - the old system is dying and it will be gone soon. We will experience Nuremberg 2.0, but worldwide, and many high-level politicans will go to jail.

The downside is they will replace the old system with the new world order, Internet of things, blockchain type of control system.

Many things are possible, and I guess there will be a crescendo of sorts. A worldwide event, like 20-30% of the worldwide population dying. Either way, the old world pre-covid is gone and will never come back. We are in a forced transition.

When observing the history of the last decades, it's easy to assume that the PTB are all sadists and want us to suffer, and that there is no light at the end of the tunnel.

But I think to the contrary, they actually want us to get rid of the parasitical politicans. If the current path continues, within a couple generations, humanity would devolve to a point without any hope for a future. The PTB can't want this. I think they started a period of collective suffering to create what they think is an utopia.



There is none. A german IT guy looked into this - basically the covid apps generate a new mac address on the fly to preserve anonymity, that's why you get new mac addressess all the time when you are in a group of people using those apps.

You make fair points on all fronts. However, where their plans to pick us up back into yet another noose under a tyrannical centralized world government system will inevitably fail because they will have no choice but to concede to complete decentralization. Under complete decentralization, world government serves the needs of all while the individual and the collective maintain their sovereignty. Rather than Nuremburg 2.0, it will be Tartaria 2.0. Obviously it will be a painstaking process with many attempts at co option and marginalization, but our awakened consciousnesses will never fall for the same old tricks, since they only ever worked under clandestine tactics that will no longer have the necessary energy to prevail. All one will have to say is "Remember Covid 19" followed by "Never again, never forget."

 

[Safranek]

We will experience Nuremberg 2.0, but worldwide, and many high-level politicans will go to jail.

Actually, the damage to politicians will not be that huge. The ones to take the fall will be the medical 'advisors' so the politicians will mostly stay around to work in the new system.

The WHO and the EU already cleared themselves of the issue by including in their recent advisory a clause where they recommend that NO country should restrict those who do not wish to take the vaccine in any way (yes, according to the Nuremberg outcome), so they can quote how they honored the human rights code.

It will be leaders but mostly the advisors on a national level taking the fall.

All one will have to say is "Remember Covid 19" followed by "Never again, never forget."

And suddenly after it has been said.... the power goes out. ;-)

And then we can also say: "Remember Cyber Polygon"

 

[dreamtime]

The WHO and the EU already cleared themselves of the issue by including in their recent advisory a clause where they recommend that NO country should restrict those who do not wish to take the vaccine in any way (yes, according to the Nuremberg outcome), so they can quote how they honored the human rights code.

I remember that. That's exactly what I am saying. In the background they create supranational rules that actually protect human rights. So when things get really messy they can blame the national governments and say "you should have listened to WHO and EU."

From a certain perspective it's all so brilliant.

For example, the very data the official institutions themselves publish show that the "vaccines" do not work.

In the end, all the data is there to destroy the governments over this corruption and deaths of millions.

I had always wondered how the PTB would end the "democracy" experiment.. Now we know.

Fascinating how all the political puppets do not have a choice but to play along. They have no idea what's going on, but they probably sense that something isn't right.

 

[Magnetic]

Dr. Luis De Benito: I'm going to tell you today the findings of this summer, which go along the lines of what may be behind all this attempt to vaccinate.
Why so much interest in jabbing? What's the reason? I'm going to tell you.
The international organizations that are also investigating this matter asked me for a brief report on what I had done during the summer. And I'm going to read it to you as it is. I'm going to make glosses of what I'm saying. But this is what I've written to them. And the different teams that are investigating this are seeing what part of it is right and what part is not. They're translating it into several languages. I say this because, probably, by the 31st it's going to be made public in other places or whatever.
It's been hard for me to get here to read it. Do you know why? Because it does weigh a little bit the fact of taking out of the medical issue. All this, you know, started as a channel to discuss the evolution of the pandemic, the affected, the treatments, the virus, how the ICUs were. Well, and this no longer makes sense. All that's part of the past. And now, what we're going to is a recognition of a desire, on the part of the authorities, to take away freedoms from human beings.
I don't care if you think I'm raving or not. But as I have a moral obligation to report what I have done, I tell you today. And whoever wants to believe it will believe it, and whoever doesn't will judge, criticize and compare it. As I say, I've written it, and I have already sent it to the teams that are studying this subject in different parts of the world.
If from the medical point of view there's no need to administer any preventive measure for a disease with the lethality of 2 per thousand, why so much insistence that everyone should be inoculated? What's the vaccine going to give me that I don't already have? Well, this experiment arose from this reflection.
Although there are many consultations, during the summer of 2021, in the afternoons, I was the only operative. There wasn't even administrative staff in the afternoons in that building. Under my office, I occasionally parked an ambulance from SUMA, from the emergency service, because they have a base there. Those were the only "interferences" I detected. Most of the observations were carried out without that artifact. I started the consultation at 15:00 and had patients listed every 20 minutes.
Due to COVID measures, it was recommended that they come alone and, if possible, at the appointed time. Not before or after. Before starting the consultation, I'd connect the Bluetooth application on my cell phone and invariably check that there was no device available to contact. There was no electronic device in range to connect to. When a patient appeared, often already up the stairs or at the beginning of the corridor, about 20 meters away from the practice, on my cell phone, I could see if one or two devices to connect to with Bluetooth appeared. One or two or none.
On my phone, I could check to see if the Bluetooth was detecting something or nothing. And if it was something, it was a device with a MAC Address (Media Access Control) code. This is a unique identifier that electronic device manufacturers assign to a card or item that can be networked.
After attending to the patient's medical requirements, I'd ask him whether or not he had been vaccinated for COVID. If the answer was affirmative, it was usually quick and without hesitation. And if it was negative, it was often accompanied by a certain wariness, if not anger at the question. A reaction that explained to me that, in general, those who hadn't wanted to be vaccinated had been subjected to some kind of adverse social situation. After reassuring the patient, whatever his response, I'd write down on a sheet of paper the answer he gave me.
None of the 137 patients I asked refused to answer. If the answer was affirmative, I'd ask them what type of vaccine they had received, when, and if they had had any adverse reactions. I'd then ask them if they had any cell phones or electronic devices such as wireless headsets or tablets on them, and if so, I'd ask them to turn it off for a moment. When they turned it off, on my cell phone, usually, one of the devices that registered to Bluetooth would disappear.
Out of hundreds... Here are the results.
Of the 137 patients questioned, 112 said they had been vaccinated, and 25 said they hadn't been vaccinated. None of the patients who said they hadn't been vaccinated registered on my cell phone any device available for Bluetooth connection, having ensured the disconnection of their cell phone, if they had one. In 96 patients of the 112 who said they had been vaccinated, 96 of the 112 having switched off their electronic devices if they were carrying them, a MAC code remained on the screen of my cell phone, which I had already noted in my notes next to the patient's medical history.
I interpreted that it was a code that the patient himself was carrying and that, in fact, when he left the office, leaving the building, it disappeared from my cell phone. With this simple observation throughout July and August, I've been able to verify that 100% of the patients who say they aren't vaccinated don't raise any contact device with my cell phone via Bluetooth. But 86% of those who said they were vaccinated generated a MAC address on my cell phone. These are the observations made, and many doubts and questions arise from them.
Among them, the ones that seem to me be the most significant are: First, does the signal detected on my cell phone come from the vaccinated person? Well, precisely the isolated environment and not being interfered with by other signals has meant that there's no other source of contamination. In fact, when the SUMA ambulance arrived, apart from other devices such as "SUMA base" and several MAC addresses that I attributed to ambulance personnel who could be vaccinated, I noticed that these signals disappeared when the ambulance left. And when there were suspicions about whether there was some other distorting element, for example, patient escorts in the corridor, accidental operators in the corridor that could be the source or origin of other markers, then I dismissed that case. It's not within the 137 that I have confirmed.
Second, do all cell phones detect Bluetooth devices with equal capability? My answer is no. My experience is that they don't.
Third, does the detectable MAC Address on a person allow interaction with him? To what extent? At least I'm sure of one thing: it allows me to know where he is because I knew that someone vaccinated was coming to my office before he showed up.
The fourth question I asked myself: If the MAC Address is something personal, individual, and unrepeatable, how is it possible that the five people who were injected with the contents of the same vial, from the same distribution of the same batch, don't have 5 different MAC addresses? Well, I consulted with some computer technicians, roboticists and fellow biologists and engineers, experts in computer science, and nanorobotics. And they advocate the possibility that this code is generated as a result of the interaction of what's injected with the genetic material of the patient. Perhaps not so much with their DNA as with the larger compatibility complex, the HLAs, which are ultimately derived from the genome.
Six, if the MAC address is generated by the vaccine, why do only 86% of those who claim to be vaccinated have it? Different answers have been considered to answer this question.
The first one: some of the vials could be placebo.
Second: some vials could be denatured.
Third: a lack of response. In other words, the expected results are not always obtained when a product is applied.
And the fourth, which seems very important to me, is because the patient lies and says he is vaccinated when he isn't to avoid problems or controversies.
I have many doubts. These are the findings that I've made. They're outside my medical knowledge. I simply attest that when you're in consultation with a person in an isolated environment, that comes up on my cell phone. What does it mean? I have no idea. But I don't like it. - ORWELL CITY: Dr. Luis De Benito shares an advance of his report on the MAC address phenomenon in inoculated individuals

ORWELL CITY: Dr. Luis De Benito shares an advance of his report on the MAC address phenomenon in inoculated individuals​

 

[feralimal]

I remember that. That's exactly what I am saying. In the background they create supranational rules that actually protect human rights. So when things get really messy they can blame the national governments and say "you should have listened to WHO and EU."

From a certain perspective it's all so brilliant.

For example, the very data the official institutions themselves publish show that the "vaccines" do not work.

In the end, all the data is there to destroy the governments over this corruption and deaths of millions.

I had always wondered how the PTB would end the "democracy" experiment.. Now we know.

Fascinating how all the political puppets do not have a choice but to play along. They have no idea what's going on, but they probably sense that something isn't right.

I agree with your idea - that this event is about imploding national governance structures to put something else in place - technocratic governance.

I speculate that we will also have an option to choose a decentralised system. I don't think this will happen (though I hope it does). Most people are not aware of say anarchic principles or voluntary association - 'anarchy' feels scary with only negative connotations to them. I think this option will zip past unnoticed.

The plan - I think - is to continue to make things very unpleasant - in a controlled way. As things continue to deteriorate (they hope) most will want the existing national governance structure to go. Then, some international agency (eg the UN or something new) will present an alternative option. The new agency will get rid of all the fake constraints that they have engineered (restrictions on travel, food, work, shopping, money etc). Life will be easier and it will appear (initially) to be a much better governance structure. However, a bio-security id (with regular injections) will be a requirement, along with all the constraints they are trying to put in place now (ids to shop, UBI). In a few years this will feel better (on the back of the bad years we are experiencing) but we will have stepped into hard technocracy with TPTB able to control the fine details of each individual's life. And there will be no arguing with the computer!

That's the plan - but as I said there may be more options than we see at present. Perhaps we could move to a totally decentralised way of existence, but IMO that it would be very unlikely. There is too much fear, most people have not considered these things and are easily steered. Most people are pretty low consciously and morally - I don't see that people want freedom and autonomy more than the goodies the system is prepared to provide. But we shall see!

 

[Jd755]

I tried in early 2020. Quickly discovered I was pissing in the wind.
I was hoping some masked nutter would challenge the perpetually maskless me but none have. My response in waiting is "I'm a virologist."
As for the crystal ball wonderland this thread seems to have entered, its all fantasy as no bugger on here is running the show.
As for waking the waverers up I don't know any.
I reiterate my take. Whatever game is in play by whoever is controlling it just speed it up.
I state that because you never know one of the myriad of zombie robots that stalk his forum, according to members/visitors age, may be a WEF/Rothschild/NWO/OWO or Disney club app.

 

[Collapseinrealtime]

I tried in early 2020. Quickly discovered I was pissing in the wind.
I was hoping some masked nutter would challenge the perpetually maskless me but none have. My response in waiting is "I'm a virologist."
As for the crystal ball wonderland this thread seems to have entered, its all fantasy as no bugger on here is running the show.
As for waking the waverers up I don't know any.
I reiterate my take. Whatever game is in play by whoever is controlling it just speed it up.
I state that because you never know one of the myriad of zombie robots that stalk his forum, according to members/visitors age, may be a WEF/Rothschild/NWO/OWO or Disney club app.

Absolutely appreciate your perspective. Feels like what they are doing is just taking too long. How long before the final "collapse" already? I coined the concept "collapse in real time" as part of a music project back in 2011, thinking the big one was immanent and ongoing then. Perhaps it was/is and this is just another day at the races for the hidden control club until they have all the right factors perfectly in place and then they finally push the button or pull the plug or drop the bottom out or collapse the house of cards that they've been so elaborately building for seemingly ever. I understand the apathy, but I refuse to allow it to live within me like a feasting parasite that thrives on fear and despair. I create and then observe the creation, regardless of the unseen energy vampires that literally need to push out a diet of daily lies and deception just to be able to function and stay on top and in control of this poorly patched together theater production that just gets more terrible and utterly unwatchable with every new broadcast. If you honestly think that they'll be able to sustain this toxic propaganda for the sweet forever after as if their crusty knickers have been flapping about and disgustingly exposed in a funky stench of BS that has been carrying on without a single noteworthy check or balance or pushback of any kind from the surrounding universe at large, realize once and for all that this dumpster fire is nearly out of BS to burn. And when the last flickering flames finally die out, even the normiest of normie will have awakened, because this is how it has to end. The freak show has to be seen by all as the absolute absurdity that it has always been. We have indeed reached that zenith and I think we're about to see that bottom finally fall out. Consulted my trusty crystal ball

 

[Whitewave]

Went to the local mega mall today for the first time in over a decade. (They still have absolutely nothing I need or want).
Was immediately amused when I walked through the doors and saw one of the many little shops (about 30 feet by 15 feet) with a sign on the door that read "Due to covid safety concerns we are limiting customer occupancy to 124 people in the store at one time". Sheesh! 124 people crammed into a 30x15 ft. area would probably violate fire safety concerns.
What I see are people half-heartedly pretending to comply (masks over just their mouths which they remove when they talk or sip coffee, family groups huddled together in their designated 6 ft. distancing spaces at the checkout line, etc.) People are really tired of this "2 week lockdown" that has dragged on for over a year and a half. They realize the normal they once knew is in the rear view mirror but they're dragging their feet toward the new normal. No one wants to rock the boat but no one really wants to comply with the oppressive new regulations either. They all need to fish or cut bait. Take a stand. All it takes for evil to prevail is for good men (and women) to do nothing.

 

[Jd755]

It's nothing to do with apathy.
Its an acceptance of the reality that the soul truth of this life is death. Everything I or anyone else deemed good or bad by memes does or doesn't do has does nothing to make death miss the meeting.

As for the good men/bad men saying and making a stand or not well there must be next to no good men as the bad men are running the show unless of course the good men are actually the ones running the show to reveal the bad men for what they are and if the eyes and minds of individuals cannot discern the bad and still tick tock along then so be it.

Personally I have not followed any of the mandates (mandates are simple requests nothing more), rules regulations, media chatter, NHS envelopes, no phone so no app reminders, etc etc.
The only masked beings I interact with are shop staff all of the others are ignored or stared at and recently I have been having some sport with them and walking out of their way in a theatrical manner as they no longer look at me so staring isn't the fun it was.
I never ask for anyone's medical records and when on the rare occasion friends or acquaintances mention theirs I exit from the situation as fast as I can. My interest in them and what the may have to say wanes as fast as it does when the arsehole I am stood or sat next to in conversation pulls out a computer masquerading as a phone and speaks or texts some other arsehole.

I've never been on a march, held up a placard, picketed anywhere or anyone and frankly do not have the first clue how making a stand will change the bad/good men's intentions one whit let alone knowing where to make the stand or who to. Perhaps not taking part as I haven't is making a stand if so other than myself and the three people I live with no bugger else knows or cares. Embracing anarchy makes a difference but few are up for that. Most people seem to want to do is keep the system that enslaves them but change the bad eggs for good ones, good by their reckoning.

As for anyone who wears a face covering outside of situations where they are of real actual use to prevent real actual harm to the body wearing one then I accept they are doing so reasons I cannot know nor fathom. So be it and no I am not a fatalist.

No-one knows who is behind this show, save for those who are behind the show and those who report to these people. I feel quite certain neither group visit the bunch of misfits and nutters on this forum.
Consent is an absolutely requirement for participation in their system. Explicit consent not deemed or presumed. These two words are Legalese masquerading as English but no-one wants to look into Legalese and why it exists either.

Someone asked in this thread or the covid end game thread "Who owns us now?"
Depends entirely on what and who the individual thinks themselves to be.
Legal name?
Owned by its creator. The State through the action of registration.
Everything stands on this fraud committed by an Informant and a Registrar.. Consent is identified by the use of the Legal name.

 

[Deleted member 37]

Italian TV-scientists sing this christmas jingle called 'yes yes yes yes yes vax let's get vaccinated'
children are crying, idiots are happy
enjoy

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fduQZI62wJk


P.S. don't ask for translations!

 

[Deleted member 1432]

That's utterly disgusting and disgraceful. And do they really think it will actually persuade anyone who hasn't been jabbed to get one!? Smells like desperation.

I suppose next we'll have a child sitting on Santa's knee being asked what he wants for Christmas. Guess what the answer will be... are there no depths to which they will not sink?

 

[Deleted member 37]

I think many of these so-called scientists are just blackmailed. Look at their faces when the 'jingle' ends. The guy on the left had to sing 'doses also to the Magi Kings'!!!

 

[Jd755]

Ahem!!!

View: https://twitter.com/ActivePatriotUK/status/1473563872019767296
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[Deleted member 1432]

Here in Spain the psychopathic government has mandated the use of masks in all public places. Mandated - not legislated, see the @kd-755 comment above. Coincidentally they have also increased the VAT on masks. Furthermore, they have also mandated that all restaurants and bars should insist upon a PCR test at the very least for all their clients and that the elderly must be isolated. Of course, the holiday period is traditionally one of many family gatherings in restaurants and bars.. "Bah-Humbug!" says Scrooge Sanchez.

The point about all of this 'mandating' is that the mandates are promoting actions that are illegal and unconstitutional. Therefore, if restaurateurs and bar owners apply these mandates they can be prosecuted under the law. Edit - breaking news - Sanchez is being denounced for illegally imposing the use of masks.

I had to take the car for an ITV (Inspección Técnica de Vehículos or MOT) test yesterday. It's been mandatory to wear a mask everywhere on their premises since the first lockdown, so no mask, no ITV certificate and your insurance gets nullified, you get fined and you can't drive your car anymore. Before yesterday's test began I had to have an ITM test - Inspección Técnica de Mascarilla (Technical Inspection of Masks.) I was told that I had it on "at the reverse" ...I was in neutral at the time though and while I was pondering whether to put it on the back of my head, the inspector told me that the blue side should be facing out. As I don't wear a mask, I had no idea which side was which. Following the rectification of my error, I was able to safely procede with the ITV (MOT) wearing a mask inside my car with no other passengers permitted. Once outside the ITV station I removed the mask and drove home without it. As far as I'm aware, no one on the street pavements, inside buildings or in passing vehicles contracted Covid 19 from me during the journey.

 

[matematik]

I find it odd how in the UK at least the government and media seem to have changed tack lately, and now the mainstream narrative is that the "Omicron" variant is just a mild cold and nothing to worry about, and that there is no need to lockdown.

Is this a sign that the agenda has burnt itself out and is coming to an end, or are they building up to something even bigger?

 

[Jd755]

Mandates are not illegal. They perfectly legal requests. They are requests nothing more and its only through fear of loss that otherwise sane people comply with them but crucially the mandate applies to a legal person. Legal persons are fictions in the same way Legalese is. To act FOR a Legal Person a living breathing being has to commit fraud by using property not of their creation for gain and we are all trained from the first bottom slap to act in fraud.

The State neither speaks nor listens because, it possesses neither ability as it is a fiction seems blindingly obvious and quiet sad to feel the need to have to write it out, such is life.
The Principal is the living being who physically gives the written command to the Agent living being.
The Agent has to be given the piece of paper bearing the words of the written command and not a ducking soul is ever given this piece of paper.
Sadly people at large cannot breakdown and comprehend what is written let alone look into the definitions of words and further let alone ask why Legalese exists.

As long as folks who believe they Act for a Legal name they did not create and do not own, do not TELL the Principal what they HAVE TO provide and instead tick tock along with some notion that mandate means compliance they are screwed. Without the physical written request there is nothing for an Agent to peruse, consider, agree or disagree with ergo no contract.

 

[matematik]

Is paying your Council Tax in the UK a mandate or a law? From what I've read trying not to pay it doesn't end well, and the council will probably force you into bankruptcy through the courts and cease assets, maybe even your home if you own one, to pay the arrears.

 

[Jd755]

Is paying your Council Tax in the UK a mandate or a law? From what I've read trying not to pay it doesn't end well, and the council will probably force you into bankruptcy through the courts and cease assets, maybe even your home if you own one, to pay the arrears.

You haven't read enough that much is obvious from the wording of your question. Keep at it though.
Top Tip; Look at the States short list of WHAT PAYS you'll get there. Merry Christmas.

 

[matematik]

Personally I don't buy into this "laws are just optional mandates", "the law is what you make it", "the law only applies if you consent to it", etc, way of thinking.

The reality is you break the state's laws they'll punish you for it through their police, courts and possibly prison system, there is nothing subjective or optional about it.