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Even though all of our lives evolve and our priorities change, the thought of losing .net after losing .org is untenable.

I’ve never been great at raising points, only collaborating, and even remiss at that this past year.

It’s great to see some core minds still mulling.
 
Even though all of our lives evolve and our priorities change, the thought of losing .net after losing .org is untenable.

I’ve never been great at raising points, only collaborating, and even remiss at that this past year.

It’s great to see some core minds still mulling.
Rev! Good to see you.
 
It seems to me that the solution or the way out, from where we are, is in a palette of twelve actions: giving physical and mental space to souls; transcending oneself; standing upright in reality thanks to the connection with Ultimate Being; transmittting energy and courage; unifying souls; giving life to persons, animals, vegetation and the earth; deepening souls; deploying minds and working clarity and insight; liberating creativity and technical-artistical creation; liberating souls from the oppression by the three idols (money, state power, a life styled by consumption); mediating grace; discovering the collective divinity of human beings.
Those who act in this directions (following their personal talents) are like a sailboat pushed by a favorable metaphysical wind. In the western tradition this wind is called grace, in the eastern tradition it is called ki, king, chi, ching. I call this way of acting syntropical action, because it gathers and concentrates and organizes energy.
The contrary is entropical action. Current western civilization is entropical, ending with an apotheosis of devouring, hate, greed, bloodthirstiness, idiocy, self-destruction. There is nothing to do about it. A judgment is taking place at the end of 500 years of western dominaton. Indeed, the end of the era. "The harvest is the consommation of the centuries, the harvesters are the angels" (Matthew 13,39, translated from the Latin Vulgate version).
Great post Jef.
Therefore the main reason for "the End" or at least the hesitations on stolenhistory.net . We, the observers and analysts, busy in this workshop with the unmasking of fabricated history, we are now watching with wide eyes the fabrication of events in the present.
Just a few thoughts re this part...
Maybe it's the end maybe not. Just cuz JD and Matthew say so doesn't mean it's true...
Also some of the elves in this workshop have been tapping others on the shoulder going 'uh, guys....guys...' whilst watching the real time fabrication for some time now...
Also, I'll say it to you and everyone here: have faith. We don't have to know everything to know what we believe.
 
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Forgive me if I'm being self indulgent SH...but it just occurred to me how funny this thread really is...I was just checking out some new member intros...

The irony... people are afraid to join and be a member because this place is intimidating...big brains and oftentimes a genuine no bullshit approach are kinda scary waters to wade into.....and so who starts this thread? Who bemoans no new members? Yes you jd755....

And who is the scariest of them all? Hahaha....

I am joking around....
 
After several years on this site, I still don't know.

Whichever it is, the concept that the contributors are living men and women with lives, with family and likely other hobbies, who also have to fend off the daily incursions of the Beast, will be impossible to grasp. There is also the small matter of WW3 breaking out, and its economic and social consequences - I would be surprised if none of the contributors were affected. Maybe new readers are digesting the recently revealed cases of kuru with help from the stomach-churning IHASFEMR thread?

But hey, the most important thing in the world right now is the rate of posting on this website...

You are swift to jump on new ideas with pompous disregard, invariably attempting to snuff them out, or tail-gating with links but no considered comments, and then you berate people for not posting more! Maybe if you had tried just a tiny bit to be encouraging, then this website might be more active.

I view this website as a research repository, rather than a forum for opinions. History wasn't stolen in a couple of decades by a group of ham radio amateurs; we have had the full machine thrown at us for at least two hundred years. To expect a leather-bound, 30-volume encyclopedia of truth to be delivered by a handful of people who have never even met each other, by some arbitrary deadline, is a joke. Personally, it's hard for me to treat the slavery, torture, murder and robbery of recent centuries as just a bit of a laugh, but I guess it's a matter of perspective.

Maybe perspective is the key. I still cannot explain how I was led to the Chinese & runes at Wardour Castle, but I cannot escape the feeling that it was in part due to my blank and awe-struck mindset as I walked around its walls, gazing up at it in wonder, silently screaming What Was This Place? What The Hell Happened Here??? I was ready to receive, and so I received. I then walked in through the Out door, rather than following the guide book. And maybe it helped that I was willing and able to spread the word via this website. My point is that you can't blame others for your dissatisfaction.

As a sincere contributor, the most satisfying numbers for me are the page views, not the number of posts or commemts. It's fantastic if someone else can share their insights, but reaching people, and poking them in the brain, is the main driver for me. These numbers keep going up, and that is truly gratifying.

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Hmm not sure why these two posts from the other thread were moved instead of being deleted like the others but hey ho there it is.
 
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." - Ephesians 6:12 (KJV)

This quotation is from a book of words.

It states that goodness and darkness are in a never ending fight with each other. Neither can overcome the other. There cannot be a winner or loser as each exists because the other exists. This is obviously an equilibrium aka stillness where nothing moves.
The world I live is one that is demonstrably one of motion. Motion is the driver, motion creates experiences motion is life.
It also assumes a hierarchy that is impossible for me to prove actually exists. I am supposed to invoke belief in the written word of an anonymous author produced at an time unknown and take up the "fight" between goodness and darkness to prevent the darkness gaining a spirit and the goodness failing to gain another spirit.

Its the equivalent of "if you are not with us then you are against us" though using the wordage of the time.

If i give "the fight" my attention I keep darkness out. If I don't I keep goodness out.
No thanks. Ignorance is my position as both goodness and darkness are the same stillness of equilibrium.

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Not that that has anything to do with uncovering what, how and why history as recorded is a mash up of actual, probable and outright lies nor establishing a methodology of how veracity can be established to cut away the probable and the lies but still I find it interesting enough to write out this comment and place it here in The End thread in due deference to Oracles post here.

I don't use social media so cannot chat on telegram so felt this thread was the next best place to comment on pushamakus comment.

Or maybe it does...
 
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Religion is holding a blind belief in the word of another. It matters not what flavour is believed. Someone outside of self knows something I (the all seeing eye) does not.
It invokes an illusion of duality and polarity (goodness and darkness) within the reality that is the singularity (me, you, spirit, soul...whatever you know/think/decide/assume your self to be).

It frames the mind and thought into judging everything be it thought or action within the confines of the illusory polarising duality aka the words of another crafted.
It limits the potential for experience to be enjoyed by framing things as per its illusion. It interrupts pattern recognition by overlaying is polarising duality limit.
It invokes feelings of fear, doubt, certainty, persecution, righteousness, superiority that have no basis in reality inside the mind of the believer.

If its not this it must be that becomes the measure and "what if" is relegated into oblivion. A waking death in a way as "what if" creates motion and without motion there is no life. Life is demonstrably motion.
The equilibrium of religion is absence of motion.

The entirety of what we see as "society" today sits within the illusion of religions polarising duality. Every control mechanism is structured to maintain the illusion...at whatever cost.
Why?

Fear of lack is best I can tell the fundamental base of human life. Perhaps this is where the illusion of polarising duality manifests inside. Without life there is death. Perhaps this illusion gives comfort, meaning, satisfaction where none is warranted so we inculcate religion before we come to know the word itself. We prime ourselves to the point we are believers long before we come to see ourselves as believing.

Religion is a pyramid shaped hierarchy. The capstone is without exception something without life. Which is rather ironic as the only demonstrable thing without life is death. Every layer of the hierarchy beneath the "something" is a human.
Humans who are believed by others to be capable of hearing, reading, understanding the words of the "something" because the "something" has an unknown way of choosing them for their position. None of the humans in the other layers gain the "blessing" of direct communication even those in the layer from which the "something" chooses.

The chosen human is then the dissemination of the "somethings" words by the interpretation of written words, actions and commentary on actions. When the chosen human dies another is chosen by the "something" from the topmost layer of the human hierarchy.
The "something" is also able to communicate subtly with or influence some humans outside of the hierarchy of belief and induce them to join the hierarchy.

This demonstration of motion flies in the face of the illusion's polarising duality of equilibrium and its mirrored precisely throughout the historical "record" of the written word and yet believers are blind to recognising reality.

That there is a historical record is beyond doubt. There are words, stories numbers, calendars, paintings, drawings, photographs, films, processes, methods, infrastructure, buildings, artifacts that are all evidence of the historical record.
There are copious interpretations, opinions, guesses, reconstructions that obfuscate the evidence. Add in deliberate obfuscation to save face or reputation, bare faced lies, accidental misreading, forgotten or missing interpretations and it becomes a morass.

Within this morass sits academia which is structured exactly the same as religion with "the established narrative" taking on the role of the "something". The established narrative cannot be challenged from within the academic hierarchy, cannot be changed, altered or otherwise interfered with. It only differs in regards to the promotion of the academic humans sits within the gift of their peers not in divine communication with the "something" as it does in religion. (Appears to do in religion is more accurate to my mind).

It is reasonable to realise that the motion we call life leads to the actual lived experience of every human goes unrecorded in any way shape or form. It is also reasonable to assume any record made of any of it is going to be limited and selective. Records come after the fact not during or before.
Processes and methods are not set. They are in motion as humans are not robotic in their actions. Changes and nuances abound across individual humans, human life time and generations.
Some endure longer than others, some may be immutable, others fall away whilst others come into being.
Most are passed from hand to hand, mouth to mouth and no documentary record is required so none is ever made. Humans learn by experience of what is, what has been done before, what is available now to achieve what they themselves need or want.

Any use of documents, drawings, calculations in establishing a new way of doing something is not of any use once the way has been established and tested or the thing has been built, created, crafted and found to work. If a journal of any kind is kept during the process it inevitably goes out of use when its author changes direction or dies. Some endure through time but the durability of ink, pencil and paper through time is not known. A lack of documentary evidence is the norm for these reasons.

Academic history is bound by the ability of man to make records in a medium that can endure across generation. Today that medium is paper made from plants which can be marked with letters, numbers, drawings with a medium made from charcoal, pigments, liquids.
The academic narrative holds that prior to the invention and creation of paper wood, clay and stone were the medium of record.
Whatever the truth might be all of these mediums have a finite life in terms of legibility.

If the marks made upon the medium degrade the meanings contained within them disappear. The information put down as record of something is lost to the generations coming alive after the author created the record.
If records of records are made then human error, deliberate obfuscation, outright fakery could all be in play and without a method of establishing veracity no reader would be any the wiser.

In truth a large gap in the historical record is being created right now with digital record replacing paper. Magnetic tapes, discs of mere decades ago are unreadable as the devices which could read them have all but gone out of use. With their replacements the hard drives also going out of use and with solid state drives that are severely limited in use cycles replacing them the computer "information age" is going to be a void that will be 'discovered' by those not yet born.

This recorded information cycle could well be the way things go across many human generations. We might be unable to recognise past documentary records for what they are. There might be huge voids where no records were kept or they were not required and today we think we are looking at things inexplicable to us but in reality we might simply have lost the ability to see or understand what the builders, creators, users of the things from the past could.

We might be incapable of uncovering what they knew and feel ourselves lacking. Back to the fear of lack being the base of religion...


That the human is a recogniser of pattern is beyond doubt. We demonstrate it to ourselves every waking moment however we demonstrate an ability to suspend this reality and allow belief to replace it.

If we could suspend belief and put pattern recognition in its proper place then look at the historical record we likely would be better at recognising fiction for what it is. On all scales from individual names of people up to the doings of countries, nations, races, populations pattern I feel holds the most promise.

An obvious pattern, (obvious once I realised it!) is the claims made for "the romans" and "the normans". Its coloured by the claims about "what the romans did for us" but laying them aside the pattern that appears show one is a retelling of the other. Further investigation could well reveal further iterations in the historical record.

Looking at individual names and the claims attributed to them reveals a pattern where men working in the same disciplines have very similar life stories. Same goes for a lot of heroic figures in the historical record.
These patterns point to a lot of historical record names never existing in the flesh and being invented to support the academic narrative or obfuscate something which would cast doubt on it.

Another pattern is the career changes in an awful lot of names in the historical record. They study subject A and become good at it. They then go on to "make a name for themselves" doing something they never studied.
A lot of "unknowns" or "counters to the narrative" are obfuscated by attribution to "names". Yet another pattern...
 
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Hmm not sure why these two posts from the other thread were moved instead of being deleted like the others but hey ho there it is.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
No posts have been moved. A post was edited to remove aggressive language. The rest of the post, as already explained to you, held valid contributions to your op and so was allowed to remain. Your post was removed in it's entirety because it contributed nothing further to the thread other than a full blown retaliation to the post we cleaned.
Religion is holding a blind belief in the word of another. It matters not what flavour is believed. Someone outside of self knows something I (the all seeing eye) does not.
It invokes an illusion of duality and polarity (goodness and darkness) within the reality that is the singularity (me, you, spirit, soul...whatever you know/think/decide/assume your self to be).

It frames the mind and thought into judging everything be it thought or action within the confines of the illusory polarising duality aka the words of another crafted.
It limits the potential for experience to be enjoyed by framing things as per its illusion. It interrupts pattern recognition by overlaying is polarising duality limit.
It invokes feelings of fear, doubt, certainty, persecution, righteousness, superiority that have no basis in reality inside the mind of the believer.

If its not this it must be that becomes the measure and "what if" is relegated into oblivion. A waking death in a way as "what if" creates motion and without motion there is no life. Life is demonstrably motion.
The equilibrium of religion is absence of motion.

The entirety of what we see as "society" today sits within the illusion of religions polarising duality. Every control mechanism is structured to maintain the illusion...at whatever cost.
Why?

Fear of lack is best I can tell the fundamental base of human life. Perhaps this is where the illusion of polarising duality manifests inside. Without life there is death. Perhaps this illusion gives comfort, meaning, satisfaction where none is warranted so we inculcate religion before we come to know the word itself. We prime ourselves to the point we are believers long before we come to see ourselves as believing.

Religion is a pyramid shaped hierarchy. The capstone is without exception something without life. Which is rather ironic as the only demonstrable thing without life is death. Every layer of the hierarchy beneath the "something" is a human.
Humans who are believed by others to be capable of hearing, reading, understanding the words of the "something" because the "something" has an unknown way of choosing them for their position. None of the humans in the other layers gain the "blessing" of direct communication even those in the layer from which the "something" chooses.

The chosen human is then the dissemination of the "somethings" words by the interpretation of written words, actions and commentary on actions. When the chosen human dies another is chosen by the "something" from the topmost layer of the human hierarchy.
The "something" is also able to communicate subtly with or influence some humans outside of the hierarchy of belief and induce them to join the hierarchy.

This demonstration of motion flies in the face of the illusion's polarising duality of equilibrium and its mirrored precisely throughout the historical "record" of the written word and yet believers are blind to recognising reality.

That there is a historical record is beyond doubt. There are words, stories numbers, calendars, paintings, drawings, photographs, films, processes, methods, infrastructure, buildings, artifacts that are all evidence of the historical record.
There are copious interpretations, opinions, guesses, reconstructions that obfuscate the evidence. Add in deliberate obfuscation to save face or reputation, bare faced lies, accidental misreading, forgotten or missing interpretations and it becomes a morass.

Within this morass sits academia which is structured exactly the same as religion with "the established narrative" taking on the role of the "something". The established narrative cannot be challenged from within the academic hierarchy, cannot be changed, altered or otherwise interfered with. It only differs in regards to the promotion of the academic humans sits within the gift of their peers not in divine communication with the "something" as it does in religion. (Appears to do in religion is more accurate to my mind).

It is reasonable to realise that the motion we call life leads to the actual lived experience of every human goes unrecorded in any way shape or form. It is also reasonable to assume any record made of any of it is going to be limited and selective. Records come after the fact not during or before.
Processes and methods are not set. They are in motion as humans are not robotic in their actions. Changes and nuances abound across individual humans, human life time and generations.
Some endure longer than others, some may be immutable, others fall away whilst others come into being.
Most are passed from hand to hand, mouth to mouth and no documentary record is required so none is ever made. Humans learn by experience of what is, what has been done before, what is available now to achieve what they themselves need or want.

Any use of documents, drawings, calculations in establishing a new way of doing something is not of any use once the way has been established and tested or the thing has been built, created, crafted and found to work. If a journal of any kind is kept during the process it inevitably goes out of use when its author changes direction or dies. Some endure through time but the durability of ink, pencil and paper through time is not known. A lack of documentary evidence is the norm for these reasons.

Academic history is bound by the ability of man to make records in a medium that can endure across generation. Today that medium is paper made from plants which can be marked with letters, numbers, drawings with a medium made from charcoal, pigments, liquids.
The academic narrative holds that prior to the invention and creation of paper wood, clay and stone were the medium of record.
Whatever the truth might be all of these mediums have a finite life in terms of legibility.

If the marks made upon the medium degrade the meanings contained within them disappear. The information put down as record of something is lost to the generations coming alive after the author created the record.
If records of records are made then human error, deliberate obfuscation, outright fakery could all be in play and without a method of establishing veracity no reader would be any the wiser.

In truth a large gap in the historical record is being created right now with digital record replacing paper. Magnetic tapes, discs of mere decades ago are unreadable as the devices which could read them have all but gone out of use. With their replacements the hard drives also going out of use and with solid state drives that are severely limited in use cycles replacing them the computer "information age" is going to be a void that will be 'discovered' by those not yet born.

This recorded information cycle could well be the way things go across many human generations. We might be unable to recognise past documentary records for what they are. There might be huge voids where no records were kept or they were not required and today we think we are looking at things inexplicable to us but in reality we might simply have lost the ability to see or understand what the builders, creators, users of the things from the past could.

We might be incapable of uncovering what they knew and feel ourselves lacking. Back to the fear of lack being the base of religion...


That the human is a recogniser of pattern is beyond doubt. We demonstrate it to ourselves every waking moment however we demonstrate an ability to suspend this reality and allow belief to replace it.

If we could suspend belief and put pattern recognition in its proper place then look at the historical record we likely would be better at recognising fiction for what it is. On all scales from individual names of people up to the doings of countries, nations, races, populations pattern I feel holds the most promise.

An obvious pattern, (obvious once I realised it!) is the claims made for "the romans" and "the normans". Its coloured by the claims about "what the romans did for us" but laying them aside the pattern that appears show one is a retelling of the other. Further investigation could well reveal further iterations in the historical record.

Looking at individual names and the claims attributed to them reveals a pattern where men working in the same disciplines have very similar life stories. Same goes for a lot of heroic figures in the historical record.
These patterns point to a lot of historical record names never existing in the flesh and being invented to support the academic narrative or obfuscate something which would cast doubt on it.

Another pattern is the career changes in an awful lot of names in the historical record. They study subject A and become good at it. They then go on to "make a name for themselves" doing something they never studied.
A lot of "unknowns" or "counters to the narrative" are obfuscated by attribution to "names". Yet another pattern...
If you like, we can make this thread of yours akin to how we dealt with @sandokhan and you can use it to post whatever responses to other threads you wish to add, or you can stay on topic.
Be aware though, that he cannot post anywhere else on the site except in his own thread. The choice is yours.
For now, I am closing replies to the thread since you seem unable to stay on topic in your own thread here.
 
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