Creatures Depicted in Ancient Art

[Ishtar]

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Well, thanks, I think. There are about 50 other sites with that same picture (& same scale) and I looked through all of them to find one that was small enough to upload to this site. Could they all be photoshopped? I really can't distinguish photoshopped pics and don't know what to look for.

It’s part of a contest....look at the rest of the pictures on that page

 

[Onthebit]

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Date: 2019-01-17 13:52:22
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Strange newes of a prodigious monster borne in the towneship of Allington in the parish of Standish in the Countie of Lancaster, the 17. day of Aprill last, 1613. Testified by the reuerend diuine Mr. W. Leigh, Bachelor of Diuinitie, and preacher of Gods word at Standish aforesaid.

https://quod.lib.umich.edu/e/eebo/a..._zk4RdI;page=root;size=125;vid=7770;view=text

 

[Whitewave]

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Strange newes of a prodigious monster borne in the towneship of Allington in the parish of Standish in the Countie of Lancaster, the 17. day of Aprill last, 1613. Testified by the reuerend diuine Mr. W. Leigh, Bachelor of Diuinitie, and preacher of Gods word at Standish aforesaid.

Read that whole piece and, apparently, the parents were physically branded for producing a monster-an obvious result of their "sins". It mentions several other monsters born during that time frame, in Russia as well as England but claims that England had the most monsters born. Most of the deformities were of extra arms but one was mentioned as having one head with 2 faces. Ergot poisoning?

"Bastard slippes shall neuer take deepe roote: which was showne in the example of this Monster, the father and mother whereof were both branded, shee with the marke of Ba∣sterdy, and from her Parents crimes in Adulte∣ry, indured this punishment: he of very lewde carriage and conditions".

 

[JimDuyer]

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This clear difference between the 15th and 16th centuries art contents has been baffling me for while. I have no reasonable answer to this issue. It is supposed to mean something, but what?

Was there an even bigger, almost huge slip in the timeline in our more distant past? Take a look at the art work from 35,000 years ago in France. It is so good that it would make some of our masters look like beginners. And even more puzzling is the chemical compositions of the paints that they used - I had a chemist friend give me a breakdown on the ingredients published by the archaeologists, and he was astounded at their complexity. Then, about 15,000 years ago, we find some later art work in caves in both France and Spain. They look like a 3 year old drew them. What happened? Why does the archaeologically supported 35K work look so much different than the 15K, unless something caused the earth to flip its surface over like a pancake, and thus we get radiocarbon dates on materials surrounding this work that actually should represent the later work, since they were flipped?

 

[KD Archive]

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Date: 2019-01-17 15:14:58
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This one here?

• Prehistoric cave art appears to be fake... all of it

 

[Onthebit]

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Read that whole piece and, apparently, the parents were physically branded for producing a monster-an obvious result of their "sins". It mentions several other monsters born during that time frame, in Russia as well as England but claims that England had the most monsters born. Most of the deformities were of extra arms but one was mentioned as having one head with 2 faces. Ergot poisoning?

"Bastard slippes shall neuer take deepe roote: which was showne in the example of this Monster, the father and mother whereof were both branded, shee with the marke of Ba∣sterdy, and from her Parents crimes in Adulte∣ry, indured this punishment: he of very lewde carriage and conditions".

Yes some kind of poisoning that caused a rash of horrible birth defects. Side effects of a weapon? I think 'we' did something that shook the foundations of life on this earth but that's for another thread and so I suppose should this excerpt.

 

[Timeshifter]

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Date: 2019-09-10 18:33:47
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This just popped up on my news feed, I note it is in the OP.



Wtf?

Source

 

[Archive]

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Date: 2019-09-10 19:03:26
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Agincourt600 – Commemorating 600 years since the Battle of Agincourt » 20-26 July 1415 – Troops continue to arrive. The king makes his will.

Kingly and Princely armour. Just like in the movies the the 'leaders' only get killed/captured by other 'leaders'

Have another
The surrender of Lisieux. A bourgeois accompanied by the bishop of Lisieux gives the keys of the city to the French captains. Martial d'Auvergne, Vigils of Charles VII, 1484, BNF

 

[Archive]

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Date: 2019-09-10 20:27:13
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I just can't believe that those Monty Python butt trumpet images actually have some kind of historical basis. What it is, I have no idea, but If I ever meet John Cleese, I'll ask him.

Monty Python AND Dante's Inferno. Was one of my favorite lines reading it during my adolescence.
"And he made a trumpet of his ass."

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Synchronous with the instance of me picking up "The Garden of Earthly Delights" as interpreted by Peter S Beagle of "The Last Unicorn" authorship.
Edgar Cayce and some others were under the notion that ATLANTIS or somebody was responsible for wiping out a lot of the saurids with their technology. As well as terraforming, geoforming... Took it TOO FAR. Genetic manipulation up the wazoo too.

 

[Archive]

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Date: 2019-09-10 21:32:13
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Picture too big to post. This was during the time of Charlemagne (742-814).

Mer people 1642

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4th century depiction of naked winged kid
riding some aquatic dog-headed horse.

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medieval map drawing of the polar region.

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Was fishing naked a national past time?

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Clearing the land of dinosaurs.

shaking hands with dinosaurs? How big were these ancient peoples? They look awfully calm considering there's a t-rex standing in front of them with his mouth open.

map critters "Despite their wild appearance, many of these creatures were based on real animals."

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16th century Persia from The Wonders of Creation by Zakariya al-Qazwini

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werewolf?

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Saw another one of these odd creatures
on a map the other day, too.

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The monster of Ravenna 1554 (A different site says 1634)

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What are they trying to tell us with this one?

There are many more like these that are categorized as if to depict them scientifically. Makes me wonder if there was someone capable of genetic manipulation way back when. Surely these creatures are not in any way natural and I'm reluctant to believe that all the various artists going to all the trouble to make woodcuts of them are just madmen. Especially when there are more than one (or 10) different artists drawing or carving the same type creatures. Definitely something strange in the middle ages.

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This creature with the face on his chest is mentioned in some other thread here, I'm positive. Like an explorer or native people's spoke about a beast with a mouth on it's chest? I'll look for it!

 

[Archive]

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Date: 2019-09-11 15:31:10
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This creature with the face on his chest is mentioned in some other thread here

This is specifically the post that came to mind as I saw the headless. I too, swear there's another that's essentially a collection of humans with wild physiology (hyrbids, headless, etc)

 

[HollyHoly]

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I found some creatures when looking through ancient artifacts< isn't that an awesome word ? art+facts anyway this fun I found this Tharcian/Dacian bronze figure walking a ????? on chain the photo is a combination of two Thracian/Dacian bronzes depicting this creature, which a big head mouth that opens its whole head like an alligator but it isn't a reptile? and it has big scary hands not paws,WT heck??

the next is a animal from a Sumerian relief showing some animals that apear to neither sheep nor goat nor cattle but with weird horns or headresses hard to tell some kind of herbivore doesn't resemble anything I've seen and seen farm animals and been to zoos and I read books... but nobody has seen everything

they were accurate in their rendering of other animals

sheep


horses

what say you are these extinct animals that we used have domesticated???

 

[Timeshifter]

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I found some creatures when looking through ancient artifacts< isn't that an awesome word ? art+facts anyway this fun I found this Tharcian/Dacian bronze figure walking a ????? on chain the photo is a combination of two Thracian/Dacian bronzes depicting this creature, which a big head mouth that opens its whole head like an alligator but it isn't a reptile? and it has big scary hands not paws,WT heck??View attachment 33211



the next is a animal from a Sumerian relief showing some animals that apear to neither sheep nor goat nor cattle but with weird horns or headresses hard to tell
some kind of herbivore doesn't resemble anything I've seen and seen farm animals and been to zoos and I read books... but nobody has seen everything
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they were accurate in their rendering of other animals



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what say you are these extinct animals that we used have domesticated???

I think that perhaps they our brothers and sisters, part of something like this idea of KDs here Hypothesis: Mutiny in the Sky or the Short History of the World

And this
Ancient Genetics Factory: The Temple of Artemis

 

[KD Archive]

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Date: 2019-11-01 01:06:24
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I doubt we domesticated anything, unless domesticating means genetic altering.

 

[Archive]

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While it's interesting to speculate, I've always thought that one can't read too much into what's portrayed in the past. We have no context for any of the artifacts, nor do we necessarily know when they were produced. All of that could be less than 500 or even 100 years old.

It could be that some of these animals were dressed in the same way that horses are dressed today, adding 'features' that in a carving or painting might appear to be depicting a different animal. Or it could simply be artistic choice as many artists opt for today.

If someone were to find the statue of the bull on Wall Street, and then find gargoyles on cathedrals, they also might surmise that because we depicted animals in statue form accurately in one case, then they must all be accurate. It would be a very rudimentary way of examining the past.

We have urban tales of a mothman, chupacabra, the devil, and a hole bunch of other monsters to draw inspiration from today. If similar statues or artwork survived the test of time and were discovered, they would just be peering into the zeitgeist of the past, rather than finding evidence for the existence of such creatures. Personally I'm inclined to think that's the case with the first image. It's either pure fantasy on the part of the creator or an artistic depiction of some common animal.

Then there is also the fact that people from the past were (almost certainly) just as symbolically inclined as they are today. The horns on the ram from that image do strongly resemble the zodiacal sign for Aries. In fact, it straight up looks like how someone trying to draw a 2d image of a sideways ram might go about doing so; any other way to correctly replicate the horns would mean having to obscure the face.

 

[KD Archive]

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We only think, and explain within the limits of our experiences. Others did the same, but within the limits of theirs:

• The history of monsters. Ulisse Aldrovandi Bologna, 1642

 

[HollyHoly]

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I doubt we domesticated anything, unless domesticating means genetic altering.

Im on that page too Korben but I think we lost some animals along the way,I do think we are looking at depictions of real animals even big fingered whatever that is. I realize that they depicted mythological creatures in ancient art ,I but they also depicted real ones, no doubt there was genetic hanky panky ,along side all this I think the genetic hanky panky never really stopped.

 

[EUAFU]

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My theory is that there were at least 2 previous hyper-technological civilizations. Certainly with moral decay the boundaries are broken and thus the creation of chimeras of all kinds. And somehow later people "remember" these monsters by having contact with some remnant of them or hearing about such creatures.

As for dinosaurs and humans there is evidence, if there is no fraud involved, that the hero named Beowulf faced a tyrannosaurus-rex who in the tale is calling Grendel. At least Grendel is described as what we call tyrannosaurus.

As for the monsters shown in medieval paintings, most are used as allegories for evil, for some human passion, and so on.

An example is the theme of Lady with Unicorn which is an allegory for virginity. According to the tradition of the time a unicorn could only be
controlled / dominated by a virgin.


I hope this on the girl's face is a deterioration of the painting.

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Strange newes of a prodigious monster borne in the towneship of Allington in the parish of Standish in the Countie of Lancaster, the 17. day of Aprill last, 1613. Testified by the reuerend diuine Mr. W. Leigh, Bachelor of Diuinitie, and preacher of Gods word at Standish aforesaid.

Strange newes of a prodigious monster borne in the towneship of Allington in the parish of Standish in the Countie of Lancaster, the 17. day of Aprill last, 1613. Testified by the reuerend diuine Mr. W. Leigh, Bachelor of Diuinitie, and preacher of Gods word at Standish aforesaid.

This monster was really just "a" Siamese twin.

 

[HollyHoly]

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My theory is that there were at least 2 previous hyper-technological civilizations. Certainly with moral decay the boundaries are broken and thus the creation of chimeras of all kinds. And somehow later people "remember" these monsters by having contact with some remnant of them or hearing about such creatures.

As for dinosaurs and humans there is evidence, if there is no fraud involved, that the hero named Beowulf faced a tyrannosaurus-rex who in the tale is calling Grendel. At least Grendel is described as what we call tyrannosaurus.

As for the monsters shown in medieval paintings, most are used as allegories for evil, for some human passion, and so on.

An example is the theme of Lady with Unicorn which is an allegory for virginity. According to the tradition of the time a unicorn could only be
controlled / dominated by a virgin.

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I hope this on the girl's face is a deterioration of the painting.

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This monster was really just "a" Siamese twin.

I concur about two previous over civilizations and about allegorical animals. There are real animals depicted in art. I think its possible that the animals I featured are animals now extinct. See the thread Horses in America where I describe encountering a possible rare equine.

 

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I found some creatures when looking through ancient artifacts< isn't that an awesome word ? art+facts anyway this fun I found this Tharcian/Dacian bronze figure walking a ????? on chain the photo is a combination of two Thracian/Dacian bronzes depicting this creature, which a big head mouth that opens its whole head like an alligator but it isn't a reptile? and it has big scary hands not paws,WT heck??

Can you link the source for these interesting pictures? The freaky chained dog thing is very interesting.

At least Grendel is described as what we call tyrannosaurus.

I am familiar with Beowulf and have never seen this theory. A quick google search didn't provide any significant hits. Do you have a source for this or a particular passage in mind?