SH Archive Crepuscular Rays a.k.a. Bulshitax Scientificus, or how far is the Sun?

[KD Archive]

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-02-21 03:13:21
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those images of rays through clouds... if you could see the same thing from another angle/distance it would give a true comparison of perspective.

I don't see how doing, or not doing this experiment could place the Sun at 93 mln miles.

Coincidences do have to get scrutinized.

 

[anotherlayer]

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Date: 2019-02-21 03:25:19
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I don't see how doing, or not doing this experiment could place the Sun at 93 mln miles.

Coincidences do have to get scrutinized.

I find it very difficult to imagine the size of the sun, no matter how I try to compare it in my brain. The sun is just under 500k miles across, whereas the earth is only 25k miles across. But, I have never seen the earth so... I dunno, nothing about anything adds up anymore. Not our earth, not our moon, not our sun. I'm not trying to be the stoner in the corner but, why is this all so hard?

 

[KD Archive]

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-02-21 03:30:18
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I think "under 500k" is the radius, which is probably irrelevant at this point. Totally agree with you about why it has to be so complicated. The only answer I have for this that it is not. In reality it is not, but we are lead to believe that it is.

 

[anotherlayer]

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Date: 2019-02-21 15:35:00
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I think "under 500k" is the radius, which is probably irrelevant at this point.

Flat Sun Theory!

 

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2019-02-21 15:53:55
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Freemason scientists LOVE globes and circles because
Globe earth mathematical calculations ... 666
Plus the math always works- if things are circular/globular.

The coincidence of the sizes of the earth/moon/sun are too much. This, the fact that the formula for measuring distance/curvature doesn’t work in reality, and finally the statements that they lost all of the moon trip data (yeah, right) pushed me over the edge.

 

[Timeshifter]

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Username: Timeshifter
Date: 2019-02-21 17:46:38
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KD, you probably know about wildheretic.com and his stunning research of the concave earth theory. He has found an excellent answer to the question as to why the moon and the sun appear to be the same size: They are the same object. (It may sound crazy at first)

Everyone here is also invited to the Forums there, we have been researching recent catastrophes, mud flood and everything related.

I have read this on WH and it is a great theory, however from my perspective, it doesnt appear so.

I did a test which showed that from my perspective the sun and moon are not the same size, at least not on this day and from my viewpoint

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As for the rays @KorbenDallas

I am unsure, I do not believe the 90 odd million miles sumation (not a believer of space) I believe it is much smaller and closer, mainly from my photographic experience and observations.

Optical illusions are all around us, if I was forced to answer I would say its a product of the way our simulated reality appears, from whatever point of view it is observed, it is perhaps a programmed event, and as such unexplainable to science, so as per usual they have invented an explanation for us.

I am 80/20 in favour of simulated reality just to clarify.

 

[Onthebit]

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Date: 2019-02-21 18:51:03
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If space is indeed water what we see through it will be greatly magnified. Look at an object through a glass of water.

 

[dreamtime]

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Date: 2019-02-21 19:37:09
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I have read this on WH and it is a great theory, however from my perspective, it doesnt appear so.

I did a test which showed that from my perspective the sun and moon are not the same size, at least not on this day and from my viewpoint

My original reply Original thread

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As for the rays @KorbenDallas

I am unsure, I do not believe the 90 odd million miles sumation (not a believer of space) I believe it is much smaller and closer, mainly from my photographic experience and observations.

Optical illusions are all around us, if I was forced to answer I would say its a product of the way our simulated reality appears, from whatever point of view it is observed, it is perhaps a programmed event, and as such unexplainable to science, so as per usual they have invented an explanation for us.

I am 80/20 in favour of simulated reality just to clarify.

You can read up about it here: The Solar Eclipse Coincidence

Due to some variations, which probably have to do with the movements of the sun in the centre of the universe, sometimes the moon is a bit smaller than the sun.

Basically the idea is that the moon is simple something like an optical illusion - as the light coming from the sun in the centre of the universe bends around and also lights up it's backside, which gives us the impression of something in the sky.

In the concave earth model light behaves similar to magnetic lines, and above you can see how magnets behave with the magnetic centre in the middle.

Suppose the sun is roughly in the centre, some of it rays will ultimately illuminate the backside, like this:

In this case, F is the light of the sun, and the lines are how light bends in the concave earth. A is "sun at noon", while C1 and C2 is setting sun or rising sun. As can be seen, some part of the light reaches back to the suns back side (the moon), making it visible on the earth as an optical illusion, but it appears to be a different object.

Your observations do not disprove the idea of sun and moon being the same object, as small variations are certainly possible in the model, although I haven't looked into it very much.

The basic observation that the moon and sun appear as roughly the same size is enough to hypothetise the moon being the same object as the sun, just from the other side. I haven't seen any model that makes more sense about everything we know about the moon - including the fact that we never see the other side.

The Moon happens to be about 400 times smaller than the Sun, but the Sun happens to be about 400 times further from the Earth than the Moon is. So simple geometry tells us that the apparent disk of the Moon is almost exactly the size of the apparent disk of the Sun. Of course this match is not always quite the same, the Earth orbits the Sun in a modestly non-circular, elliptical, path and so our nearest and furthest distances (perihelion and aphelion) differ by about 3.3%. And the Moon's orbit has a roughly 10% difference between its near and far point to us, so the precise degree of total solar eclipse will vary a little as the apparent sizes of Sun and Moon vary. This Sunday the distance variations conspire to make the Moon appear 94.4% the size of the Sun.

It's really fascinating that few people are realizing that this should be statistically impossible for it to happen in the standard model of the universe.

The moon is not only the same size as the sun, it also follows it around almost statically, like a shadow.

 

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Username: Grandpa
Date: 2019-02-28 03:52:47
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You can read up about it here: The Solar Eclipse Coincidence

Due to some variations, which probably have to do with the movements of the sun in the centre of the universe, sometimes the moon is a bit smaller than the sun.

Basically the idea is that the moon is simple something like an optical illusion - as the light coming from the sun in the centre of the universe bends around and also lights up it's backside, which gives us the impression of something in the sky.

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In the concave earth model light behaves similar to magnetic lines, and above you can see how magnets behave with the magnetic centre in the middle.

Suppose the sun is roughly in the centre, some of it rays will ultimately illuminate the backside, like this:

View attachment 17573

In this case, F is the light of the sun, and the lines are how light bends in the concave earth. A is "sun at noon", while C1 and C2 is setting sun or rising sun. As can be seen, some part of the light reaches back to the suns back side (the moon), making it visible on the earth as an optical illusion, but it appears to be a different object.

Your observations do not disprove the idea of sun and moon being the same object, as small variations are certainly possible in the model, although I haven't looked into it very much.

The basic observation that the moon and sun appear as roughly the same size is enough to hypothetise the moon being the same object as the sun, just from the other side. I haven't seen any model that makes more sense about everything we know about the moon - including the fact that we never see the other side.



It's really fascinating that few people are realizing that this should be statistically impossible for it to happen in the standard model of the universe.

The moon is not only the same size as the sun, it also follows it around almost statically, like a shadow.

I had read one time and even followed a YouTube channel that stated something very similar. He has since disappeared but left his impression on some.

His theory was that the earth was a toroidal shape or a hyper cube and the moon was a reflection of the under side of the earth. I don’t quite understand all he was on to, but he made some very good points. It was very close to what you just stated, but a slightly different object shown.

 

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Username: BrokenAgate
Date: 2019-02-28 04:48:07
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I find it very difficult to imagine the size of the sun, no matter how I try to compare it in my brain. The sun is just under 500k miles across, whereas the earth is only 25k miles across. But, I have never seen the earth so... I dunno, nothing about anything adds up anymore. Not our earth, not our moon, not our sun. I'm not trying to be the stoner in the corner but, why is this all so hard?

It's way more complicated than I thought it would be. Are we living on the inside of a giant geode?? Crystals are everywhere, from continents to snowflakes. Is the sun a self-illuminating crystal? Just some ideas that popped into my head.

 

[TH Dialectic]

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Username: TH Dialectic
Date: 2019-03-05 17:26:14
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The only way for us to fully understand the dimensions of terra firma is full exploration thus made infinity impossible by treaties etc.

Imagine the level of funding needed to complete such a task! Again, this is nigh on impossible without appealing to any sort of consensus -- so called "governing bodies" have full control and rights over access.

Seems we maybe stuck on this imaginary sphere for longer than we once thought. Trapped like some sort of farm yard rat!

TH

 

[Whitewave]

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Date: 2019-03-05 19:48:32
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Seems we maybe stuck on this imaginary sphere for longer than we once thought. Trapped like some sort of farm yard rat!
TH

Rats have a knack for chewing through their confines.

 

[TH Dialectic]

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Date: 2019-03-05 20:16:48
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Rats have a knack for chewing through their confines.

Love the spirit!

 

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Date: 2019-04-11 12:03:01
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Double slit experiment proves the existence of Ether
I don´t know if this totally debunks the double slit experiment, but he proposes another point of view. Also, he "Demystifies" some of the Quantum quakery going around.

Perhaps I misunderstood some of the ideas that the man was trying to get at but I think he's drawing a false equivalence by trying to compare water molecules fired from a water dispenser being forced through a medium of water and transferring energy via collisions to create waves, to photons traveling through a medium of ether and creating waves by colliding the two different types of particles. For one, it means that the end result of the double-slit experiment would be vastly limited light, since the photosensitive screen on the other side would be primarily receiving ether particles affected by collisions from the photon particles.

 

[DanFromMN]

this is effing great

 

[Parallax]

those images of rays through clouds... if you could see the same thing from another angle/distance it would give a true comparison of perspective.

I don't see how doing, or not doing this experiment could place the Sun at 93 mln miles.

Coincidences do have to get scrutinized.

Not only that but maybe some critical thinkers might wanna think outside the heliocentric box. They say the sun's a massive ball of fire, so in my experience it would be fair to contemplate it being the opposite... There are schools of thought saying its possibly a cold light of some form and is effectively a converter of sorts, as in reacting with the aether or windflow somehow. Hypothetically speaking if u got heating in ur home gas or electric, and everyone in ur street/Town has whatever, everyone feels the heat but doesn't mean the the power station that provides said energy is constantly on fire! My point is we need a better explanation for how the sun really affects us.

 

[_harris]

I don't see how doing, or not doing this experiment could place the Sun at 93 mln miles

It would certainly help to gain a true perspective on those pesky rays, which was my entire point. Hell, they might only be able to been seen as such from specific locations, similarly to rainbows/ other refractory phenomena!

the rays appear to be shining "down" from the clouds. an alternate perspective would allow you to see that the rays are shining diagonally.

also, who's to say those crepisculars are direct sun-rays? they could just be cloud reflection/refractions giving the illusion of sunbeams shining through.

as i said before, our solo perspectives are nothing in the grand scheme!

[ps- i'm not denying any alternative theories on sun/moon/earth size/shape/location, asking questions is not denial of an idea!]

 

[Notorious]

My 2 cents is that the Sun is very wide so you have to remember that you are seeing light from both ends of it's diameter (and top and bottom and everywhere inbetween) The light is emanating in all directions from every point of the sun not just in a pillar-esque fashion. Obviously these pictures aren't to scale distance/size but you get the idea. The rays shining "left" of the observer are from further "right" of the Sun and vice-versa (don't forget top and bottom).

 

[Belialith]

KD: If we were to be watched, would “they” do it from 93 mln miles away?

That photo at the bottom of the first post, it's all Anunnaki symbolism. So, if we were being watched, I think they would do it from a lot closer than we've imagined thus far.

[Quiahuitl]

Here's crepuscular light coming through my back door. The sun is at an elevation of around 30 degrees.

There's an argument whether we are looking at a perspective effect or genuinely diverging rays. In this case I was able to stand right on top of the rays and take a photo that was square on to the rays, to the best of my ability. It looks to me like the rays are diverging from side to side.

Don't be deceived by the door frame; look at those rays in comparison to the edge of the photo. I've tried to get on top of these rays and photograph them as square on as I can. I'm aware that wide angle lenses distort things, so I've used a longer focal length to make things look more square.

Really interesting thing - looking at the same rays from the side, they looked parallel to me. Really hard to get a photo because of the light background. Again, I've gone further away, used a longer focal length and tried to get square on to the subject.

To see if the rays are truly parallel, I would like to either print the photos out and mark them, or use a photo shop type tool to put some reference marks on specific rays.