SH Archive FE - Nullarbor Plain

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KorbenDallas
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2019-05-16 13:50:09
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Username: rafalnowicki
Date: 2019-05-19 19:54:28
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Sorry for OT. Interesting video from "where is danny black". I noticed there are many roads in the middle of nowhere, like on this shoot:
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You can find more strange roads in Australia on Google Maps, like those ones:
-31.8785244, 127.3994141
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-32.0093419, 126.6962126
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I'm pretty sure roads are left by previous civilization.
 
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Username: Maxine
Date: 2019-05-20 12:59:59
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antarctica_australia.png
Awesome notice! I was always keen on this theory that Australia could be actually connected to Antarctica somewhere, maybe Australia is even one unfrozen part of this Ice Ring around Earth like on that one old AE map! (I'm a flat earther, just to clarify)
 
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2019-05-20 20:16:14
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The wikipedia article doesn't mention a perfectly flat plain, so this doesn't tell us anything about the shape of the earth. I agree with @eddie
 
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Username: whitewave
Date: 2019-06-25 05:36:04
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There's evidence that a BIG impact event hit New Zealand about 500 years ago resulting in a tsunami with 400 ft. waves and a drop in the ocean level of 300 feet. Tsunami from asteroid impacts. Since an amateur geologist figured it out, the professional geologists have not been shy in tearing him a new one and trying to discredit his findings. However, an bonafide oceanographer did find an undersea impact crater off the coast of New Zealand.
"The expedition is going to remote Mason Bay on the west coast of Stewart Island to look for evidence of a "mega-tsunami", sparked by the meteor, which may have dumped sand up to 150m above the present sea level." (2004). Australia has Chinese ships dated to the 1200's (iirc) embedded high in some of their cliff facings.
Simulation scenarios. Compares size of meteor impacting to amount of devastation predicted/known and equates it to comparable levels of TNT. So, not necessarily a nuclear strike; just nature throwing a tantrum.
 
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Username: Martin77
Date: 2019-10-21 13:00:28
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Hard to believe there are people honestly thinking Earth is flat. Education degradation did it's work.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-10-21 21:57:16
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Wouldn’t blame education for this. It does its best to enforce the sphere.

I’m one of the forum members who thinks that we live on a relatively flat surface. I have never seen the curvature, and envy people who did.

As far as flat earth goes, I’m not sure whether some think that there is a flat piece of land floating in space or what, but I doubt it works like that. We probably shouldn’t be applying the concept to the flawed model of the universe. Most likely we have no idea what the overall setup is.

If we do exist on a flat surface, the model of the overall mechanism could have any shape there is out there.
 
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Username: luddite
Date: 2020-01-12 02:46:32
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#metoo

The helio centric model and the FE model both have massive and confusing holes in them. The reality is probably something that would be difficult to understand as it would likely conflict with many existing personal and scientific belief systems that we all collectively and individually hold dear.

I'm drafting a topic post which should be ready in a week, that attempts to shed some perspective on how I perceive that it could all be spun together. It attempts to draw possible conclusions to the missing antiquity years, duplicated and replaced historical figures, FE, mandela effect, cosmology and physics. It's been a bit of a journey to construct it in a digestable format but I'm confident that it will end up in a non-laughable state over the next week.
 
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Username: MOS SOVE
Date: 2020-01-12 06:49:41
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I'm curious what the massive and confusing holes in the FE "model" are? And also what model are you talking about? There are a good handful of FE models.
 
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Username: luddite
Date: 2020-01-12 08:24:24
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Holes
  1. What's on the edges
  2. What's beyond the edges
  3. What's above the firmament
  4. What's below the firmament
  5. How deep do we go to escape world?
 
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Username: EUAFU
Date: 2020-01-12 10:33:01
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Look for evidence of the alleged "movement of the earth" you can't find. Browse the images or videos of Earth from space. You do not find any real. Look for such a curvature of the earth, nothing. You do not find. That kind of absence and the tons of space agency scams should turn on people's warning bells. However, the indoctrination perpetrated by "education", the media, and the desire to live in a Star Wars / StarTrek / Aliens-creators-of-the-human world is stronger than the critical sense.
 
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Username: luddite
Date: 2020-01-12 12:28:58
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Oh I agree totally but that doesn't mean that I have to believe the alternative either. I will probably build a rocket to test the firmament this year. Cant rely on others so will gather my own Intel.
 
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Username: EUAFU
Date: 2020-01-12 14:19:43
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I hope you succeed in this project. And as soon as you have answers post here.
 
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Username: luddite
Date: 2020-01-12 14:46:16
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Thankyou. I have to learn a lot to make it happen.
 
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Username: AnthroposRex
Date: 2020-01-13 18:20:17
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What gets me about the concept is this:

Here is the star wheel diagram from some site.
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Interesting to me this is called a planisphere.

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Here is a time lapse photo of the starwheel.

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This link says the north pole star acts like the hub in a wheel.
Does the North Star ever move? | EarthSky.org

So does this make sense when the scientists are saying we travel like this?

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Are all the stars moving in perfect sync with earth despite being many light years from each other?
Or is there a sphere or dome of stars that happens to be a LOT closer than anyone thinks it is?

I personally prefer a flat earth explanation. For two reasons. Primarily, I think it is a great philosophical exercise because it shows oneself how much the concept of a spherical earth underpins so much of education and one's awareness of their location.

Also, the level of vitriol for asking these questions and the attempt to publicly deride someone's intelligence for daring to ask the question SCREAMS suppression to me. So I tend to believe there is a large bit of truth to the Earth is a Level Plane concept.

My second reason has more to do with making life exciting.

The concept of the scale of the universe seems designed to make happenings here on earth, and one person's actions in particular, insignificant in scale and meaning.

Look at this map that is usually circulated with FE.

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What if the inner circle represents the ice wall, and the outer represents the firmament.
There are many more continents outside us.
What if aliens are just people from those continents. What if giants come over the ice wall. What if the people outside are trying to set us free? Are we in a localized prison system?

The idea that life has stakes this high is exciting to me. It turns real life into something that's better than any movie.
So until someone can show me some pictures of space by NASA that aren't obviously fabricated, (don't get me started on china's space footage) I prefer to place my conscious belief of myself in this world in the paradigm that is more interesting to me.

And while space ships would be cool, I'd make my first flight on one straight south and answer the questions I have.

One more thing. All countries have a treaty about Antarctica. When have any countries followed any treaties without cheating? That defies explanation to me. Russia is the big bad wolf unless it's in Antarctica? Yeah, right.
 
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Username: realitycheck
Date: 2020-01-13 20:40:46
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I am not a FE but I don't believe official space model also - one of biggest reasons is easiest to explain by using picture of textbook model about yearly movement of the Earth (I added bright green parts).

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If Earth moves around Sun during year then our night sky should change accordingly and we should be able to observe 360° of night sky view during year, but all we see is same night sky all year and only thing that changes is tilt... so this model is not making much sense in relation what we see with our own eyes.

So for now I am not discarding or accepting any theory as I didn't find any that makes complete sense to me...
 
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Username: Starman
Date: 2020-01-14 05:53:45
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If you want to break the bonds of the matrix, there is nothing better for you to do than to contemplate the idea of FE.

Most of us understand that this current Orwellian paradigm has the world turned upside down...EVERYTHING IS TURNED UPSIDE DOWN. The heliocentric solar system model is at the core of the deception, the biggest lie THEY could come up with. Once you realize they are out for all the marbles, not just some of them, you can't help but realize the biggest box they've got you in, is the idea of space and round ball planets. Everything is built upon that.

I don't have a lock on that truth, but I do know that once I investigated FE, a lot of other things became much clearer.

We have this division between the hidden after-life magical soul journey, and this 3D physical life in a material universe. One is predictable, the other wildly unpredictable, mysterious and unknowable. Do we really think that this 3D life is the real one, and everything else is just ineffable?

I think they want us trapped in this fantasy that we live in a knowable, mostly predictable universe. THEY want us thinking we are inconsequential specks in the universe. We are just beings resulting from a long history of evolution. There is no god, no creator, no purpose.

It all starts with the charade that we are hurtling through space on a rocky planet.
 
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Username: Searching
Date: 2020-01-14 06:30:42
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I discovered flat earth almost 4 years ago. I hoovered everything about it into my mind, and I was adament it was flat.... but there were still many unanswered questions. I kept looking, but found myself imprisoned by known thoughts.

About 3 years ago, I ran across a guy who claimed earth was not a sphere, nor was it flat, but he wouldn't say what shape it was, and that really pissed me off. Like, dude, just tell me.

I was still a flat earther, but his assertion coupled with my own unanswered questions kept me looking. I was incapable of comprehending what I discovered, but a seed was planted that grew, and I then got why the guy didn't just outright say what shape this realm is.

It's something we have to discover in our own time... or not at all. I learned the hard way that trigonomotry cannot be taught to a kindergartner. There are steps to learning. We start counting with blocks, then progress through addition, multiplication, division, algebra, etc. I can't just walk up to someone and say, "The cosine of the complimentary angle to 58° is .85 ." and expect him to be able to comprehend that anymore than I can walk up to someone and say, "You've been lied to your entire life. NASA is a farce, and the earth is flat." LOL. Nobody will comprehend that. There's a ladder of curiosity one must climb to find the answers for himself, but there are few of us who do.

I have come to peace with what I perceive this realm to be. Others may disagree, but it is very telling that there is not a unanimous concensus on the shape.
 
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Username: Bear Claw
Date: 2020-01-14 11:55:34
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I am not sure they are holes so much as just general queries. Does there need to be an edge? Surely the Flat Earth model would make more 'logical' sense, without an edge. The flat earth model requires an edge just as much as the spherical model does i.e not at all. Does not knowing what is above constitute a "hole" in the theory, or just a question that remains unanswered? The Sphere Earth also hasn't provided answers to what is above and below the firmament or what is in the centre of the earth, other than unreliably sourced word of mouth
 
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Username: ion.brad
Date: 2020-01-14 22:16:10
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I shall write again, even if I wrote on other threads also: if you believe the Earth is a sphere, take a paper and a pencil, go to your prefered search engine, type WGS84 (it is the latest, but you can use any other) and write down the ecuatorial radius and excentricity. Calculate the polar radius or look up wikipedia. Then look for a formula which gives you the earth radius by latitude. Calculate r1 the Earth radius at the Lake Itasca latitude, then calculate r2 the Earth radius at the Pilottown latitude: you will find r2 is bigger with more than six thousands meters than r1! Then think! After thinking come here and write your explanation of Mississippi waters going uphills almost three quarters of Everest in order to flow into the Gulf of Mexico.

I have put the same question on other forums and the first answer received was gravitation. I told them thay are wrong because gravitation is directed to the center of the elipsoid and not to the Gulf of Mexico! Then came an other one who said centrifugal force of Earth rotation. I explained them that a force is the mass multiplied by acceleration and, if they introduce a force, they introduce an acceleration also. Which means that Mississippi waters would have to have tremendous speed at the Pilottown, but the contrary is true! Then they banned me!

I am waiting an explanation from the stolenhistory readers who believe the Earth is almost a sphere. Thanks!
 
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