SH Archive Flight around the world map, 1915

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2019-07-11 14:38:25
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Also the stars. Completing it (joining at the top) might’ve been too obvious.
 
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Username: space966
Date: 2019-07-11 15:11:27
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Most probably through north, but official paths are shown to east or to west.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-07-11 20:19:05
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Bernard Joseph Stanislaus Cahill (1866–1944), cartographer and architect, was the inventor of the octahedral "Butterfly Map" (published 1909; patented 1913); an early proponent of the San Francisco Civic Center (1899–1909); and designer of the Columbarium of San Francisco.
1975-Cahill-Keyes543x540px.jpg

Interesting, but I do not understand any of this.
 
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Username: SuperTrouper
Date: 2019-07-11 23:55:31
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I'm sorry for a slight tangent but I absolutely have to share this. A couple of nights ago I had a dream that I was flying from San Francisco (!) to Rome, and that instead of the 13 hr flight time (which I checked later was the actual flight time), the flight was going to take 72 hrs. In my dream, somehow I found out that the reason for a longer flight was that the Earth had expanded significantly. Meanwhile, once on board, the airline drugged all the passengers to sleep so that they wouldn't realise that the flight took that long. :D
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I reckon that all those flight distance values simply add up from one destination to the next (e.g. St Petersburg to Moscow 450 miles, then Moscow to Omsk 900 miles, etc) to reach the total figure of 19000 miles.
 
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Username: space966
Date: 2019-07-13 10:17:02
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Maybe it's 450 air miles.
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-07-13 17:47:22
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Hmm... interesting indeed that is. It's like a double double whammy in there:
  • A columbarium is a place for the respectful and usually public storage of urns holding cremated remains, but can also mean the nesting boxes of pigeons. The term comes from the Latin "columba" (dove) and, originally, solely referred to compartmentalized housing for doves and pigeons.
 
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Username: Dielectric
Date: 2020-01-21 12:52:37
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The map has distances between cities with airfields listed in lower left. It's pretty fuzzy but it looks like it's saying that it's 450 Air-miles, between St. Petersberg to Moscow. Yep, just checked and you can drive the route in 482 miles. Time about 11 hours after bribing the cops.

In other words, these are weigh points. Places which had airfields and each pilot had to navigate from one point to the next. Would help if there were a higher resolution so you could actually read that area more clearly.

No too sure about "Wired." Why are they doing a story on maps of all things? Like maps are hip? Anyways I don't like sites where there's no way to post public feedback, or which only have FB or Twitter account links to do so. Wired is on my suspect stooge list. On the other hand it's helpful to see what they are marketing because there's always a reason whether it's a distraction, propaganda, or covert messaging.
Projection Smackdown: Cahill's Butterfly vs. the Dymaxion Map

I found this guys site while backtracking the original image trying to find one of high enough resolution to read the listed cites and distances.
This is a cartographer and maps are his life work. BTW he say's google is stuck in the 16th century. Lol~

"In my 1973 MA thesis, my quest was for a single Master World Map from which all other submaps at any scale could be derived (as cutouts: literally, or in principle). And, conversely, to assemble that same Master World Map, or a Megamap, from squares that are page-size or larger."

Summary: I love Bucky, but Cahill's map is a lot better. Here's how. by Gene Keyes
Why Cahill? What about Buckminster Fuller?
Evolution of the Dymaxion Map:
An Illustrated Tour and Critique

9.2) Critique of Fuller's Dymaxion Map compared to B.J.S. Cahill's Octahedral

10 Principles for a Coherent World Map System

He explains here his preference for the Cahill Map and specifically not a globe map but an octahedron
Notes on Re-designing B.J.S. Cahill's Butterfly World Map

Evidently one of the most accurate depictions of real earth
Cahill-Keyes Megamap prototypes
This map is revealing as to the true scale of land masses. Africa is for example a lot larger.
Cahill-Keyes Multi-scale Megamap, Beta-1
Cahill-Keyes "Real-World" Map, Scale 2
 
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Username: Dielectric
Date: 2020-01-22 05:35:43
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Not sure if you're agreeing or not, but these are legs, you start in San Franciso and fly to Cheyenne, Wyoming. That's leg one. You have to check in at every weigh station. The first weigh station is Cheyenne, Wyoming and the distance is 1,000 miles. Remember this is round the world air race which in that period of time was the news of the day. None of the planes could possibly fly that far so you had to do your own planning where you would land to refuel. You had to have money and backing to hope to complete this because you had to have people along the way with fuel and tools to make repairs.

Leg 2 is from Cheyenne to Chicago and that's another 1,000 miles.

So it continues till you get to Warsaw Poland. From Warsaw it's 1,025 miles to St. Petersburg Russia.
From St. Petersburg to Moscow is 450 miles.

The problem I'm having is this is also World War One. So you're gonna fly from London to Paris and then on to Berlin Germany?
Anyone else see a problem with that?
 
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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-01-22 08:29:20
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"Control Stations and Distances
From the Exposition Grounds
San Dranciso to
"
Self explanatory.
All I did was attempt a cleaer image of the list so it could be read.

London, Paris, Berlin.
Warsaw St Petersburg.

To me theses are grouped to take account of whatever the people of the day were told was going on in terms of conflict between countries.
Basically go whichever way you can through this zonem sort of instruction.
 
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Username: studytruth
Date: 2020-01-22 09:09:12
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A air race across Europe during WW 1 is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard.
I wish I had known of this to include in my book. This is a real eye opener about the Expo of 1915 and what was or was not going on at the time.
 
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Username: Dielectric
Date: 2020-01-22 15:28:13
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Oh but that's only the half of it. Let's not forget that once you've managed to elude the Germans on the Western Front you now have to cross over
Germany's Eastern Front which is also at war with the Czar: It's a two front war for Germany but no big deal, right? What could possibly go wrong? Lol~

First off I was suspicious about how much money was offered and who won? Sounded pretty loaded to me from the get go. The PTB have been involved in many mysterious incidences of missing planes, ships, subs loaded with gold, and so this crackpot scheme had my hair standing on end with suspicion. Second off, I had never heard of this and knew the official version that the US Army Air Corps was the first to successfully circumnavigate the globe by air in 1924.

Here's what I found out about this proposed insanity.
(Source) Round the World Flights

Rodman Wanamaker, enthusiastic supporter of the science of aviation would finance the RTW project. A prize of one million dollars was to be offered to the winning pilots.

Arrangements would have to be made for changing aeroplanes at various points on the journey path. Weather conditions were envisioned to be acceptable for an Atlantic crossing in July 1915 from Labrador to Scotland.

The Aero Club of America would sanction this circumnavigation in conjunction with the International Aeronautical Federation (Belgium) and would seek the active support of more than 400 aero clubs scattered throughout the world. These clubs would furnish local maps and determine suitable landing places near principle cities along the flight path. The proposed world flight path was plotted by BJS Cahill on his Octahedral Projection "Butterfly" World Map. Cahill won a gold medal at the Panama-Pacific Exposition for his "Butterfly" map projection. Stops at 28 principle cities were envisioned. This round-the-world dream never happened.


The first successful round the world flight was not accomplished until 1924.
How The U.S. Won the Race to Circumnavigate the Globe by Air

Who is Rodman Wanamaker? Seriously they love name associations...Wanamaker?
Rodman Wanamaker - Wikipedia
Adjusted for inflation, $1,000,000.00 in 1915 is equal to $24,874,554.46 in 2019.
Annual inflation over this period was 3.14%.
Calculate the value of $100 in 1915. How much is it worth today?
 
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Username: DanfromMN
Date: 2020-04-21 00:03:25
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This map not surprisingly essentially edits out the north pole. Whatever that might be.
 
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