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Hi all,

I am a lurker here and I love reading other peoples materials and research on different things so eventually I thought I would post my own. There is a scientist by the
name of John Sanford, I believe he is a plant geneticist who due to his education was a committed Darwinist but later on due to his research concerning genetic entropy he abandoned Darwinism. There is a video (interview) of him on YouTube giving a general description of his research. The link is below if you have time. The Book is called genetic entropy

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Basically what he says (I am in the processing of reading his book) is that the overwhelming amount of genetic mutations that humans are accruing are actually deleterious in nature and that there is no way that random mutations (the back bone of Darwinism) could generate life on this planet that we see. Biologist in order to counteract act this say that natural selection is powerful enough to weed out these genetic mutation but he provides a lot of evidence to say this is not. There are also many other things that he discusses and he sites many prominent biologists and scientists to back up his case.

But his main conversion is to life on this planet being young (humans) because he does not see how humans beings could be alive right now if they were existing for hundreds of thousands of years with this sort of genetic entropy going on. I think this stuff ties into many themes that are discussed on this forum. The idea of there being an "old world" that may have been spiritually advanced and because of cataclysms and the like that this was lost and maybe we lost some abilities (telepathy etc). The myth about the tower of babel alludes to humans being able to speak "one language" before god confused the languages and spread people out. I think this alludes to humans having an ability that maybe we lost along the way due to our genomes degrading, I think that if there was an "old world" were humans may have been different then I think that the global flood or cataclysm would have changed our genetic material in a bad way. There is another scientific article that I am going to link below that shows that most of the harmful mutations arouse in the past few thousands years. Their dating may be off though.

Past 5,000 years prolific for changes to human genome


Here are some reddit threads which discuss this topic more in depth (with some skeptical commentary)

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I was wondering if other posters here are aware of any other hard evidence that would point to the earth and humans being "different", it could be atmospheric or the like. I remember a poster here talking about an experiment concerning electromagnetism where it was applied to plants and made them healthier and stronger. Some people state that before the floods or cataclysms that there would have been some sort of electromagnetic force in the air that would have made things taller. I also saw something here having to do with carbon dioxide and rats.

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2020-05-29 04:02:24
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I've read about a genetic "war" ongoing in which the Y chromosome is losing badly. Each generation shows a net lose of genetic material carried by the Y chromosome.

Additionally, the X chromosome is shown to actively attack the Y chromosome as well as to promote X-linked diseases which are carried by females but only affect males. There's also some evidence of an X-linked relationship for male homosexuality.

The Y chromosome has adapted a semi-effective, stop gap defense, however. It now produces a sedative like chemical transferrable via semen that has a calming effect on females.

Geneticists are not usually prone to such alarmist language as genetic "war" but that's how it's being described.

Personally, I think it's obvious that the human race is devolving overall. We're shorter than our giant ancestors, shorter lived, we no longer produce our own vitamin C, we marvel at the construction feats of the past not replicable by today's "smarter" generation.

I noticed that the article hints rather heavily towards a selective breeding program to correct/combat the degeneration of our species. I'm not opposed to such a remedy, in theory. The manner of its implementation would be a deciding factor.

When you stay abreast of the current discoveries made in the field of genetics you begin to understand the push for transhumanism although surely there's a better solution.

 

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Username: Son of a Bor
Date: 2020-05-29 04:10:35
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Walking past the beautiful houses in my neighborhood, blooming flowers, fruits and trees and inside nearly each, a giant wall TV, makes me think: mutational meltdown. I, too, see what our unchosen overlords are seeing.

 

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Username: FlyChaos
Date: 2020-05-29 08:37:15
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Basically what he says is that the overwhelming amount of genetic mutations that humans are accruing are actually deleterious in nature and that there is no way that random mutations (the back bone of Darwinism) could generate life on this planet ...

 

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Username: plamski
Date: 2020-05-29 11:12:32
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Jason713, great first post, well done and thank you very much.

Even without any "hard" data we've all had this intuitive feeling that we're devolving. This is perhaps what drives the idea of transhumanism to replace that decaying body.

Yes, the evidences are all around us:

1. The boys are feminised, the girls are either sickly slim or obese. Some have muscles but none have courage (weak kindney and unhealthy guts).
2. Tattoos (self-mutilation) everywhere. Self-hate. Depression. Introversion.
3. The mood of music that the new generation produces is mostly melancholic. Chain dancing is a lost art form.
4. The overall intelligence and intuitive thinking are in decline
5. Decreasing fertility
6. The fact that now we have labels for different generations is because the differences are becoming too obvious. Accelerated decline.
7. The perception of beauty is getting extremely perverted
8. Perverted sexuality
9. Germophobia
10. Parasitical economic system based on the money cult
11. Healing is a business
12. The growth of urbanization and the push towards technology indicate that we no longer are able to exist in a natural environment
13. Herd mentality
14. Narcissism is on the rise
15. The harmony between man and woman is lost.

... the list is long.

The sharp decline started with the adoption of agriculture. When populations around the globe started turning to agriculture, regardless of their locations and type of crops, a similar trend occurred: the height and health of the people declined. It drove technological innovation which is nothing but a crutch.

I think that we are devolving towards a lower state of being parasites. At the moment we feed on each other but when technology eventually fails to save us from ourselves, we will do what parasites do: destroy the host. Not the whole planet but certainly the possibility for us to exist.

Nevertheless, I think the tide could turn with a rude awakening in the form of a major cataclysm which will force people towards a more primitive life style. Societal reform in any shape or form on the other hand would not do it but only accelerate the race towards the bottom - idiocracy.

Happy Friday! LOL

 

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Username: Bear Claw
Date: 2020-05-29 14:11:07
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Will pick up that book and have a read. Thanks.

Out of interest, does the book give any theory over being able to date humanity by the pace at which DNA is melting down?

 

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Username: JohnHancock
Date: 2020-05-29 21:51:51
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I for one don’t believe this de-evolution is natural. Rather if you look at nature there is little problems where the cabal doesn’t interfere. It’s a brilliant strategy of theirs to de-evolve the slaves in order to keep us in line. We will see how it works.