Holy Spirit, Phoenix, and ritual sodomy

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Recently a lot of things fell into place in my research, which inspired me to start this thread, more ambitious and wide-ranging than my first one. Enjoy.


1. The Holy Trinity is a cryptic metaphor for the three main holes/openings in the human body:

a. The Father, associated with the aspect of divinity responsible for creation, is surely the mouth, as in the myths God speaks the world into existence. Hence, Father=mouth.

b. The Son, in the Christian myth, is God born in the flesh, so, quite clearly it is associated with the reproductive hole. Son=vagina; alternatively penis, a protrusion complementary to the vagina. In general, the reproductive organ.

c. That leaves us with the only other major hole. Holy Spirit=anus. It is perhaps shocking, but consistent with all the information about various sects of sodomite gnostics, speaking loosely, who stress the importance of Spirit/Holy Spirit in their outward rites, and are reported to engage in homosexual anal sex.


This first assumption cannot be proven, or at least I don’t have proof for it. It came to me in a moment of inspiration and rings true to me. The rest of the text follows this assumption, and one more, eminently more provable, namely that there exist extremely influential secretive groups holding and increasing their power throughout history. The text is an exercise in stolen history intended for those who do not shun creative speculation and loose association.



2. With that realization, a lot falls into place. The 12 apostles, inspired by the Holy Spirit (=initiated by anal sex), were all ultimately put to death by the society of the time, which put a heavy taboo on sodomy and punished it by death by and large.



3. More realizations follow. According to Al-Biruni, prophet Mani, the founder of now-forgotten, but once potent manichaeism, claimed to be Paraclete. Paraclete refers to Holy Spirit in Christianity and the term is used in Gospel of John. This allows us to situate Mani in the line of ritual sodomites.



4. To stay on the topic of manichaeism, employing a method of loose association, the 20th century has been described as the „Manichean Age” in terms of the geopolitacl scene being widely propagandized, and, as a result, perceived by the masses, as a one-dimensional fight of Good vs Evil/ Light vs Dark, first as Allies vs Axis, then as NATO vs Warsaw pact (West vs USSR). What’s interesting, the manichean perception of the masses worked as a perfect inversion: people living under each block by and large believed (or at least were heavily pressured to believe) that their block represent the side of Good/Light. The dream of the secretive fanatics of the sign of Paraclete, came into its successful culmination in the height of the Cold War.



5. The fall of the Soviet Union was orchestrated as the victory of the Good. With Holy Spirit now to rule, in the following decades the open promotion of sodomy came widely to the fore and continues to make a rapid progress. It is the era of unveiling.



6. In the current theatre of the marionettes, the „Evil” enemy has risen like a phoenix from the ashes with the former power of the Soviet Russia being rebuilt by Putin’s Russia, which poses a threat to the „Good” Europe again. The anti-LQBT aspect of the Russian dictatorship is a wink to the initiated, signifying that the battle of the good sodomites (played by the West, with its nations taken as a captive in this game) against the evil taboo-observing people, is being re-staged on a global scale again.



7. Sometimes the irony of this manipulation is all too obvious, with the same human NPCs who previously paraded LGBT rainbow flags on their social media, switching to or adding Ukrainian flags after the Russian invasion in 2022.



8. Point 6 introduced the topic of the Phoenix, which is the next crucial term, the uncoding of which reveals veiled aspects of history and present. Phoenix is cryptically associated with Phoenicia, by extension Phoenician alphabet, and it is the main sign of the Sect of the Phoenix, a term borrowed from a story by Jorge Luis Borges with the same name (Borges was himself an initiate, the fact that I briefly wrote about in my previous thread); the ritual of the sect being, again, sodomy. The sect, probably founded by those having to do with the introduction of alphabet, and continued through the ages by family lines, focuses on control of information and molding opinion. The famous litterati of all ages spring from this sect, creating a hermetic world of cultural themes and metaphors for the profane to passively receive and accept as their own. Modern examples: the creation of psychoanalysis, feminism, postmodernism, climate activism, transgenderism and many similar influential currents, all of them having the common feature of not being rooted in the search for objective knowledge, but instead being a Hermetic/Talmudic artifice from the start, the fact to which most of their followers remain completely clueless, of course.



9. To elucidate the topic of ritual sodomy, it is useful to comment on the topic of monasticism. Monasticism is the creation of Christianity. While naive people may believe in pious heterosexual monks free of sexual passion, it is probably not hard, at least to this forum’s members, to accept monasteries for what they have been: incubators of/places of shelter for sodomites. Monks are commonly understood in the Christian lore to be inspired by the Holy Spirit, so again, if we just assume the speculative identification made in point 1, the elements of the puzzle fit together very well.



10. Holy Spirit is anus for the initiated. Satan is anus for the profane. The association of anal acts with Satan comes from the official Christian orthodoxy, which veils its methaphors. It is a double standard: the act considered holy for the initiates is to be held taboo for the masses. The current era, however, is the era in which the Paraclete, finally released through the ages’ long great work, is to fill all the human receptacles. Sodomy is aggressively pushed through pornography (a business fully controlled by the cabal) as the sublime sexual act, no matter if heterosexual or homosexual.



11. More on the Sect of the Phoenix: what were the first writing systems (which were refined/improved upon in the form of the Phoenician alphabet and the modern alphabets) primarily used for? For keeping detailed records of goods, like in the palace civilization of Minoan Crete. Who pioneered much more detailed record-keeping and beaureaucratic control, inventing statistics, in the modern meaning of the term? Venice, a resurrection of Phoenicia (see my previous thread) Who pioneered the latest information revolution, bringing data gathering and control to the whole new level? Widely speaking, the Anglo-Saxon block, springing originally from the British Empire, the next controlling centre for the Phoenicians/ Sect of the Phoenix, the most recent and current one being USA. For connections of the Venetian and British Empire, see Webster Tarpley.



12. Point 11 omits the invention of printing, because it is worth commenting upon in a separate point for clarity. The crucial book here is ”A new light on the Renaissance” by Harold Bayley. It shows that printing was controlled by families descendant from the Albigensians/Cathars/gnostics and they put secret watermark emblems on paper, all refering to their cryptic metaphors, with the Phoenix and Holy Spirit being crucial again, revealing the nature of the whole enterprise and allowing us to link it to the same source.



13. The phoenix metaphor is multifaceted – it is possible that it came to refer to both Christ and Lucifer at the same time, its origin predating both concepts. The „resurrection” mystery itself is probably related to excretion. It’s a high-flung symbol based on the simple observation that the matter that feeds an organism, starts out in some living form, is killed and consumed, excreted as waste, to finally serve as a fertilizer/energy source for new life and the cycle continues ad infinitum. If we are to fully understand all the ancient myth, we need to keep in mind that it is mostly nothing other than veiled mystical repurposing of banal truths of nature and reproduction. The ritualization and sacralization of sodomy probably comes from the idea that a penetration of the excretory hole by the reproductive organ somehow „tricks” nature and imbues one with some kind of mystical power – hence the Holy Spirit.



Enough for one post. I’m interested in what response this post will gather before venturing to write more. I can assure the reader, that although all of the above is highly speculative, I have not taken it out of thin air. I have read hundreds of books and internet sources, and I generally retain infromation in my mind pretty well, although I cannot now identify all the sources, like a scrupulous academic. I am a dilletante, a researcher out of passion, with no academic pretensions. For the above reasons, I hope you will forgive me the lack of bibliography. I’m open to a more detailed discussion on any of the points and I can of course share many of my sources in the process.
 
The Holy Trinity is a cryptic metaphor for the three main holes/openings in the human body:
It’s interesting to read your post while I am currently writing about Saint Barbara. As you might be aware, all different versions of her biography includes a section about three windows:

"Saint Barbara's life is intricately linked to the symbolism of three windows, which represent the Holy Trinity—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This symbolism plays a crucial role in her story and her eventual martyrdom. Barbara was the daughter of Dioscorus, a wealthy pagan who sought to isolate her from the influence of Christianity. He confined her in a tower, intending to raise her in the pagan faith. Despite this confinement, Barbara's intelligence and curiosity led her to seek the truth about God. During her father's absence, she instructed builders to add a third window to her tower, which originally had only two. This third window symbolized her newfound faith in the Holy Trinity." Source

My interpretation of the three windows (holes) is different. First of all, I believe that Saint Barbara is a reflection of the Virgin Mary, albeit with darker elements. Her biography has remained unnoticed by Dr. Fomenko. Secondly, Symbolically and covertly, Saint's biography discusses having an illicit sexual encounter and then losing her virginity. The addition of third window relates to vaginal penetration and broken hymen. The anus and urinary tract are two windows that already exist.

In the drawings, the tower has a phallus-like appearance.

So, In Saint Barbara's life, the Holy Trinity is associated with three bodily orifices.
 
It’s interesting to read your post while I am currently writing about Saint Barbara. As you might be aware, all different versions of her biography includes a section about three windows:

"Saint Barbara's life is intricately linked to the symbolism of three windows, which represent the Holy Trinity—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This symbolism plays a crucial role in her story and her eventual martyrdom. Barbara was the daughter of Dioscorus, a wealthy pagan who sought to isolate her from the influence of Christianity. He confined her in a tower, intending to raise her in the pagan faith. Despite this confinement, Barbara's intelligence and curiosity led her to seek the truth about God. During her father's absence, she instructed builders to add a third window to her tower, which originally had only two. This third window symbolized her newfound faith in the Holy Trinity." Source

My interpretation of the three windows (holes) is different. First of all, I believe that Saint Barbara is a reflection of the Virgin Mary, albeit with darker elements. Her biography has remained unnoticed by Dr. Fomenko. Secondly, Symbolically and covertly, Saint's biography discusses having an illicit sexual encounter and then losing her virginity. The addition of third window relates to vaginal penetration and broken hymen. The anus and urinary tract are two windows that already exist.

In the drawings, the tower has a phallus-like appearance.

So, In Saint Barbara's life, the Holy Trinity is associated with three bodily orifices.
For the love of St Barbara, FIRE FOR EFFECT!
 
Regarding my response here and the other post, I should make clear where I stand on some religious issues.

I don't mean to offend anyone's beliefs, especially those of religious people and I don't think my opinions are blasphemous.

According to one view, all religious and historical texts were finally edited and authored by a small group of related people over a relatively short period of time. Therefore, there are a lot of mistakes and repetitions in old books.

Lets, take an example. There is a spectrum when it comes to the life of the Virgin Mary. One end, like Gospel, is all positive, while the other end, like Toledot Yeshu, is entirely negative. Nonetheless, many descriptions have both good and bad aspects. While some have done it due to confusion and error, many authors have done it on purpose. A very good example is Shahname. the C/S birth of Rustam - Jesus- is reflected brightly but there is also an episode about illicit sexual encounter of his parents, Zal and Rudabeh. Another one is Saint Barbara life and three windows.

What is important is that the uncertainty and blasphemy consistently has been pumped into our minds. Rapunzel's narrative is one example and even movies like The Last Duel and Titanic. I will discuss them later.
 
Recently a lot of things fell into place in my research, which inspired me to start this thread, more ambitious and wide-ranging than my first one. Enjoy.


1. The Holy Trinity is a cryptic metaphor for the three main holes/openings in the human body:

a. The Father, associated with the aspect of divinity responsible for creation, is surely the mouth, as in the myths God speaks the world into existence. Hence, Father=mouth.

b. The Son, in the Christian myth, is God born in the flesh, so, quite clearly it is associated with the reproductive hole. Son=vagina; alternatively penis, a protrusion complementary to the vagina. In general, the reproductive organ.

c. That leaves us with the only other major hole. Holy Spirit=anus. It is perhaps shocking, but consistent with all the information about various sects of sodomite gnostics, speaking loosely, who stress the importance of Spirit/Holy Spirit in their outward rites, and are reported to engage in homosexual anal sex.


This first assumption cannot be proven, or at least I don’t have proof for it. It came to me in a moment of inspiration and rings true to me. The rest of the text follows this assumption, and one more, eminently more provable, namely that there exist extremely influential secretive groups holding and increasing their power throughout history. The text is an exercise in stolen history intended for those who do not shun creative speculation and loose association.



2. With that realization, a lot falls into place. The 12 apostles, inspired by the Holy Spirit (=initiated by anal sex), were all ultimately put to death by the society of the time, which put a heavy taboo on sodomy and punished it by death by and large.



3. More realizations follow. According to Al-Biruni, prophet Mani, the founder of now-forgotten, but once potent manichaeism, claimed to be Paraclete. Paraclete refers to Holy Spirit in Christianity and the term is used in Gospel of John. This allows us to situate Mani in the line of ritual sodomites.



4. To stay on the topic of manichaeism, employing a method of loose association, the 20th century has been described as the „Manichean Age” in terms of the geopolitacl scene being widely propagandized, and, as a result, perceived by the masses, as a one-dimensional fight of Good vs Evil/ Light vs Dark, first as Allies vs Axis, then as NATO vs Warsaw pact (West vs USSR). What’s interesting, the manichean perception of the masses worked as a perfect inversion: people living under each block by and large believed (or at least were heavily pressured to believe) that their block represent the side of Good/Light. The dream of the secretive fanatics of the sign of Paraclete, came into its successful culmination in the height of the Cold War.



5. The fall of the Soviet Union was orchestrated as the victory of the Good. With Holy Spirit now to rule, in the following decades the open promotion of sodomy came widely to the fore and continues to make a rapid progress. It is the era of unveiling.



6. In the current theatre of the marionettes, the „Evil” enemy has risen like a phoenix from the ashes with the former power of the Soviet Russia being rebuilt by Putin’s Russia, which poses a threat to the „Good” Europe again. The anti-LQBT aspect of the Russian dictatorship is a wink to the initiated, signifying that the battle of the good sodomites (played by the West, with its nations taken as a captive in this game) against the evil taboo-observing people, is being re-staged on a global scale again.



7. Sometimes the irony of this manipulation is all too obvious, with the same human NPCs who previously paraded LGBT rainbow flags on their social media, switching to or adding Ukrainian flags after the Russian invasion in 2022.



8. Point 6 introduced the topic of the Phoenix, which is the next crucial term, the uncoding of which reveals veiled aspects of history and present. Phoenix is cryptically associated with Phoenicia, by extension Phoenician alphabet, and it is the main sign of the Sect of the Phoenix, a term borrowed from a story by Jorge Luis Borges with the same name (Borges was himself an initiate, the fact that I briefly wrote about in my previous thread); the ritual of the sect being, again, sodomy. The sect, probably founded by those having to do with the introduction of alphabet, and continued through the ages by family lines, focuses on control of information and molding opinion. The famous litterati of all ages spring from this sect, creating a hermetic world of cultural themes and metaphors for the profane to passively receive and accept as their own. Modern examples: the creation of psychoanalysis, feminism, postmodernism, climate activism, transgenderism and many similar influential currents, all of them having the common feature of not being rooted in the search for objective knowledge, but instead being a Hermetic/Talmudic artifice from the start, the fact to which most of their followers remain completely clueless, of course.



9. To elucidate the topic of ritual sodomy, it is useful to comment on the topic of monasticism. Monasticism is the creation of Christianity. While naive people may believe in pious heterosexual monks free of sexual passion, it is probably not hard, at least to this forum’s members, to accept monasteries for what they have been: incubators of/places of shelter for sodomites. Monks are commonly understood in the Christian lore to be inspired by the Holy Spirit, so again, if we just assume the speculative identification made in point 1, the elements of the puzzle fit together very well.



10. Holy Spirit is anus for the initiated. Satan is anus for the profane. The association of anal acts with Satan comes from the official Christian orthodoxy, which veils its methaphors. It is a double standard: the act considered holy for the initiates is to be held taboo for the masses. The current era, however, is the era in which the Paraclete, finally released through the ages’ long great work, is to fill all the human receptacles. Sodomy is aggressively pushed through pornography (a business fully controlled by the cabal) as the sublime sexual act, no matter if heterosexual or homosexual.



11. More on the Sect of the Phoenix: what were the first writing systems (which were refined/improved upon in the form of the Phoenician alphabet and the modern alphabets) primarily used for? For keeping detailed records of goods, like in the palace civilization of Minoan Crete. Who pioneered much more detailed record-keeping and beaureaucratic control, inventing statistics, in the modern meaning of the term? Venice, a resurrection of Phoenicia (see my previous thread) Who pioneered the latest information revolution, bringing data gathering and control to the whole new level? Widely speaking, the Anglo-Saxon block, springing originally from the British Empire, the next controlling centre for the Phoenicians/ Sect of the Phoenix, the most recent and current one being USA. For connections of the Venetian and British Empire, see Webster Tarpley.



12. Point 11 omits the invention of printing, because it is worth commenting upon in a separate point for clarity. The crucial book here is ”A new light on the Renaissance” by Harold Bayley. It shows that printing was controlled by families descendant from the Albigensians/Cathars/gnostics and they put secret watermark emblems on paper, all refering to their cryptic metaphors, with the Phoenix and Holy Spirit being crucial again, revealing the nature of the whole enterprise and allowing us to link it to the same source.



13. The phoenix metaphor is multifaceted – it is possible that it came to refer to both Christ and Lucifer at the same time, its origin predating both concepts. The „resurrection” mystery itself is probably related to excretion. It’s a high-flung symbol based on the simple observation that the matter that feeds an organism, starts out in some living form, is killed and consumed, excreted as waste, to finally serve as a fertilizer/energy source for new life and the cycle continues ad infinitum. If we are to fully understand all the ancient myth, we need to keep in mind that it is mostly nothing other than veiled mystical repurposing of banal truths of nature and reproduction. The ritualization and sacralization of sodomy probably comes from the idea that a penetration of the excretory hole by the reproductive organ somehow „tricks” nature and imbues one with some kind of mystical power – hence the Holy Spirit.



Enough for one post. I’m interested in what response this post will gather before venturing to write more. I can assure the reader, that although all of the above is highly speculative, I have not taken it out of thin air. I have read hundreds of books and internet sources, and I generally retain infromation in my mind pretty well, although I cannot now identify all the sources, like a scrupulous academic. I am a dilletante, a researcher out of passion, with no academic pretensions. For the above reasons, I hope you will forgive me the lack of bibliography. I’m open to a more detailed discussion on any of the points and I can of course share many of my sources in the process.
I've read that the Holy Trinity has an Unholy Trinity shadow which is what you're probably referring to. Evil always comes in on the back of the good as its shadow in this realm of duality. It's up to use to see the difference.
A woman's womb is a Stargate for souls, while the anus would be the gate into the lower realms.
 
1 John 1:5 (KJV) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

  1. darkness
  2. the darkness due to want of light
  3. metaph. used of ignorance of divine things, and its associated wickedness, and the resultant misery in hell

James 1:17 (KJV)
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Revelation 21:23 (KJV)
23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb [is] the light thereof.

Revelation 22:5 (KJV)
5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever.

This perverse idea of sodomy originating with God. Comes from your father the devil. People saying this are seeking after their father Satan and he has many books to keep you looking to satisfy your perverse desires.
 
This is an excellent thread and, I believe, an important theme.

Sodomy between men indeed appears to have an important esoteric signification.

The Russian poet Limonov, who is otherwise straight, writes about being sodomized in a park by a black man in language reminiscent of an esoteric initiation.

My pre-Stolen History take was that for a poet like Limonov, sodomy represents an overcoming of an artificial moral order and a Promethean rebirth beyond good and evil. It represents sexuality freed from the constraints of reproduction.

I am a heterosexual man. At the risk of being too explicit, I never understood the (apparently widespread) desire to eschew the self-lubricating orifice designed precisely to receive a phallus in favor of an orifice designed for a very different function. As far as I can tell, anal sex is above all an idea, and the fascination it exerts on so many people has its origins in the symbolic rather than the instinctual order. The call of the anus is ontological. Humans are unnatural animals in the sense that our sexuality is overwritten and overdetermined by fantasies which have basically zero connection with nature. Sodomy is therefore a perfect symbol for a refusal to "play by the rules" set by God or the gods. Which of course begs the question: are our creators (or our adulterators) and their rules good or evil? The vagina could be seen as a symbol of our enslavement inasmuch as it tricks us into reproducing.

In the early days of psychoanalysis, the anus was traditionally seen as a lure, an ersatz vagina the obsession with which betrayed an arrested development of the libido and an inability to overcome narcissism. Freud's anal stage is situated between the oral and genital stages. The vagina is "harder to accept" than the anus for a man because it forces him to confront existential alterity in the form of the eternally alien Other Sex. My experience as an observer in gay clubs with gay friends is that sexuality is much, much easier when there are no women involved. A smile, a hello, and then it's off to the backroom. That moment of sheer terror in the face of radically different genitalia is avoided.

So we have arguments for both sides. The anus represents freedom through transgression and rebellion, and the vagina represents freedom through ordeal and through faith.

Just today I walked past a statue of Pope John Paul II with two children, one of whom is holding up a flower. From a certain angle it almost looks like the child is holding his penis, and I believe that is intentional.

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The Catholic Church preserves many elements of what must once have been a universal political order based on pederasty. Benedict XVI was a flaming queen who retired to be with his twink, "Gorgeous George" Gänswein.

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I once knew an older gay man who had been a monk. When I met him he was fully out of the closet and living a promiscuous lifestyle. He laughed and told me that life in the monastery was basically like a San Francisco bathhouse. Sean Hross argues that the Knights Templar were founded by the disinherited second sons of noble families who were shipped off to monasteries, where they practiced buggery and a form of communism. "Fraternity" = sodomy. Zizek argues that homosexuality has to be taboo in the Army because the fraternal bonds between soldiers are deeply homosexual in nature, but have to remain repressed in order to function. Kay Griggs claims that the US military is run by sadistic gay "Cherry Marines". The early Nazi Ernst Röhm, leader of the Sturmabteilung street commandos, was a sadistic homosexual. I read somewhere that he refused to allow heterosexual officers to advance beyond a certain rank because he considered them soft. In antiquity, homosexuality and war went hand in hand. What could be more macho than refusing all contact with those weak, sentimental, empathetic creatures known as women? Fomenko believes that monasteries were retirement homes for Golden Horde soldiers who had been Shanghaied into service as children and deprived of the "privilege" of having wives or homes. Having dedicated their entire lives to the Empire, they had nowhere else to go when they got old. Whenever men and women are artificially segregated, you get institutionalized homosexuality, either explicit or hidden. All of these data points kind of cohere together...

Henry Makow occasionally publishes the rantings of an Australian Satanist named Aloysius Fozdyke, who sings the praises of anal sex as a Satanic sacrament. I believe it's in one of his articles that I read that there is a spot somewhere inside the anus that, when hit by the penis at the proper angle and with the proper force, causes the recipient to see a blinding flash of light. This would be the "divine light" referred to by so many secret societies. That sounds like BS to me, but what do I know? Ammon Hillman has a different take on this. He argues that mystical initiation involved being anally penetrated with a dildo smeared with powerful drugs that otherwise wouldn't make it through the gut barrier. These drugs provoked a transcendental near-death experience and led to a rebirth beyond good and evil. I could imagine this ritual being cargo-culted into plain old sodomy at some later point.

Then we have the whole Illuminati Tranny phenomenon, which I am convinced is a real thing. There are a shocking number of men in drag in positions of power. Kissinger's "wife" is my favorite.

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You find these trannies on both sides of the artificial Communist/Zionist dialectic (Ivanka Trump AND Michelle Obama), which for me is the greatest proof that the whole thing is an occult stage show. I guess one reason they parade these trannies around is to make sure everyone knows that our world leaders are getting bent over on the regular.

I am not, in theory, opposed to the idea of being ruled over by enlightened individuals for whom cross-dressing symbolizes an overcoming of the limitations of sexual difference and the attainment of a wisdom beyond gender. In practice, however, these individuals appear to be pursuing a very sick and evil program of deception. Their goal is to transform us, without our consent, into something other than we are. Their art sucks and their ideas suck. I think that Elite Gender Inversion is above all a program of monstrous narcissism. These people are so arrogant that they refuse to accept any lack, any sacrifice, at all. It must make them furious that they cannot have both a penis and a vagina. The anus, however, is universal. The irony is that by refusing lack they do not become wise but on the contrary become idiots.

My current theory, after reading Robert Temple's New Science of Heaven, is that Earth is a protected zone where plasma intelligences take on material bodies in order to experience lack, loss, sickness, impotence, sexual difference, and death in order to learn lessons that cannot be learned in the plasma cloud. Perhaps Earth was even created as a political research laboratory for life in the cloud. On some level we all want to return to our eternal home, the plasma cloud, in which gender does not exist, in which "sexuality" is polymorphously perverse, in which all desires can be realized with no effort, but which for the same reason are worthless. The occultists are people who know that we really are "all gods" and are tirelessly working to make life on Earth resemble life in the heavens. What they perhaps do not realize is that Earth was created as a necessary counterpoint to the heavens, indeed as a sort of laboratory for new political solutions in the cloud. Like a kibbutz. By attempting to make life here resemble life in the cloud, the occultists are defeating the purpose of Earth, which is to learn to tolerate and even love our limitations. Perhaps the spirits that are being channeled by the terrestrial occultists are entities who wish to terminate the Earth lab in order to maintain some regressive status quo in the cloud. This is why God ordered the angels to serve man: because the angels suffer from pathological narcissism.

Anyone who has ever meditated regularly knows what it feels like to be sitting there, mind racing, legs tingling, nose itching, waiting for the timer, then finally saying "screw this" and opening his eyes early. As soon as you quit, there's a momentary feeling of relief as you re-enter the unreflective flow of everyday life, followed by a sense of disappointment: was it really necessary to come back to my everyday life so quickly? I could've easily gone five more minutes...well, I wonder if that's what life on Earth is: basically a meditative discipline for plasma entities. We spend our lives trying to recreate life in "heaven" (more knowledge, faster communication, more power, more exciting sex) but then, as soon as we die, we "wake up" back in the cloud where all limitations to our narcissism are abolished. The occultists pushing sodomy and transgenderism are perhaps channeling entities that are itching to "stop meditating" and go back to the familiar cloud lifestyle of immediate gratification.

It seems like the biggest sacrifice involved with incarnating on Earth is accepting sexual difference. See Plato's Symposium. I assume there is no gender in the plasma cloud. The polymorphously perverse sexuality practiced by the Greek gods as well as their heirs, the aristocracies of the world, is a cargo-cult copy of sexuality in the cloud, which I imagine resembles something like what the Cenobites practice in Clive Barker's excellent Hellraiser: sadomasochistic pleasure beyond our ability even to imagine.


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@Frostychud Thanks for your contribution. It's fascinating as always, I must admit I've read many of your posts on this forum and I've been invariably impressed. I had hoped you would chime in on my thread.

I heard briefly about these new plasma discoveries, but I haven't delved into it yet, it seems like I have to finally read Robert Temple's book.
Are you aware of a certain interpretation of the myth of the fallen angels, that says that while veiled under a metaphor, as always, it really pertains to humans, once pure spirit beings who got tempted by material existence? And the idea is supposed to be originally from Ancient Egypt, a place all kinds of esoteric ideas are attributed to (but I have a feeling even "Egypt" here means something else still, as always). I read it in "The lost light" by Alvin Boyd Kuhn.

I am not, in theory, opposed to the idea of being ruled over by enlightened individuals for whom cross-dressing symbolizes an overcoming of the limitations of sexual difference and the attainment of a wisdom beyond gender.
Really? I think "in theory" is the key phrase in this statement of yours. Personally, I would never accept being ruled over by self-professed "enlightened individuals", no matter how benign they would appear to be. Whenever I accept somebody's power over me in day-to-day circumstances (like the governmental authorities), it is not a sincere submission but rather a decision taken out of pragmatism/necessity. I think it's Hans Hermann Hope's idea that all power and all property is ultimately usurped power and usurped property, but this is the game we have to play because of the limitations of the natural world, and of the human society built on top of nature, but not exempt from primordial/primitive rules and regularities.

Sometimes an institution of genuine benevolent authority occurs among humans, of course. It's unfortunately all too rare. By and large, societies are based on rituals of submission, and sodomy, our topic here, is one such ritual, reserved for establishing hierarchy inside the group of the "elect".
 
Widespread porn and sodomy, alongside the transgender agenda are all part of the transhumanist ideology, the total destruction of humanity, and it all started when science became the materialistic niihilism it is today. Porm addiction can literally turn a healthy individual into a crackpot in little to no time, it's designed to target men and destroy masculinity (the coomer meme in a nutshell).

Men and women perfect each other in many ways, the perversion of this natural way is an agenda that as far as i remember by my research, goes back at least a century, possibly more. One clear example is how in the mainstream narrative homossexuality was the norm in the armies of "antiquity" (whatever/whenever that was), like one teacher at school once told me: 'see, most of the great men of the past were actually gay and they built the foundations for our society today, so we need to be progressives and acceptthe facts'. What a load of bullshit

These occultists hate anything that is good and uplifts the human spirit, that's why our world of today no longer makes sense, it's upside down to a point of no return, unless crucial numbers of the world's population wake up......
 
Widespread porn and sodomy, alongside the transgender agenda are all part of the transhumanist ideology, the total destruction of humanity, and it all started when science became the materialistic niihilism it is today. Porm addiction can literally turn a healthy individual into a crackpot in little to no time, it's designed to target men and destroy masculinity (the coomer meme in a nutshell).

Men and women perfect each other in many ways, the perversion of this natural way is an agenda that as far as i remember by my research, goes back at least a century, possibly more. One clear example is how in the mainstream narrative homossexuality was the norm in the armies of "antiquity" (whatever/whenever that was), like one teacher at school once told me: 'see, most of the great men of the past were actually gay and they built the foundations for our society today, so we need to be progressives and acceptthe facts'. What a load of bullshit

These occultists hate anything that is good and uplifts the human spirit, that's why our world of today no longer makes sense, it's upside down to a point of no return, unless crucial numbers of the world's population wake up......
There’s something rotten in the state of manhood. Deeply ingrained in the male psyche is the belief, the certainty, that they’re superior to women even where the evidence clearly contradicts it. They are delusional because the satanic world order of the last few centuries have persuaded them that all their phallus-waving means something. What they have been very successful in is self-promotion and the delusion of grandeur which makes for a decadent world and a kakistocracy in which the least able are in charge. Every woman knows this from an early age. But because men have been able to murder, rape, abuse with impunity, women have had to learn to feign their awe and obedience to stay alive. When my daughter was born, I soon realised one of my roles was to stop pedophiles getting to her and to protect her till she was an adult from the institutional and widespread abuse of females in this world. Somehow men don’t seem to understand how treacherous a world women are forced to live in now. My only explanation as to why the Pelicot case in France was seen so differently by men and women is that there is something seriously wrong with men. Sexuality for men overrides common decency. I think that on some level males are programmed to believe that women view sex the way they do. From many years of experience I can tell you - they really don’t.
 
There’s something rotten in the state of manhood. Deeply ingrained in the male psyche is the belief, the certainty, that they’re superior to women even where the evidence clearly contradicts it. They are delusional because the satanic world order of the last few centuries have persuaded them that all their phallus-waving means something. What they have been very successful in is self-promotion and the delusion of grandeur which makes for a decadent world and a kakistocracy in which the least able are in charge. Every woman knows this from an early age. But because men have been able to murder, rape, abuse with impunity, women have had to learn to feign their awe and obedience to stay alive. When my daughter was born, I soon realised one of my roles was to stop pedophiles getting to her and to protect her till she was an adult from the institutional and widespread abuse of females in this world. Somehow men don’t seem to understand how treacherous a world women are forced to live in now. My only explanation as to why the Pelicot case in France was seen so differently by men and women is that there is something seriously wrong with men. Sexuality for men overrides common decency. I think that on some level males are programmed to believe that women view sex the way they do. From many years of experience I can tell you - they really don’t.
I can only speak for my own experience, but i've seen an evenly amount of all kinds of brutality commited by both men and women when i worked as a Police scribe, from insane murders to SA and CP.

As a victim of abuse, i always saw sexual subjucation of other people as nothing but repulsive, because that destroys a person deeply, and it never fully heals, regardless of how hard one tries to get over it.....

It's a sad state of our world, institutionalized abuse is for sure a reality, from top to bottom in most countries i would say. About 2 months ago a local priest was arrested by federal police for being the leader of a CP ring for 25 years, with connections and friends in high places, who are these demons hurting children for that long? We'll never know thanks to a plea deal

Corruption of what was once sacred and uplifting is a norm for the past few centuries, and this obsession with anal sex is imo a symptom of a much larger and dark disease
 
At least everyone on here is Not a godless Blasphemer. Some of you are the very dregs of mankind, while attempting to convince the rest that you are normal.
you are not normal you are god haters.

I’ve noticed a trend on here , the more outside the normal a poster is , it means he must be right, no he is just a god rejecting heathen.
 
At least everyone on here is Not a godless Blasphemer. Some of you are the very dregs of mankind, while attempting to convince the rest that you are normal.
you are not normal you are god haters.

I’ve noticed a trend on here , the more outside the normal a poster is , it means he must be right, no he is just a god rejecting heathen.
Not sure if the insult of God hater is towards me or not but i don't hate God. Do i reject the church and all religions, totally.

Because is thanks to religions that the nature of who God is, is distorted beyond any factual comprehension! Trow materialism into the mixture and we have an undigestible cake in front of us, religion is like party politics, brainwashed people fighting to be the good guys at the expense of others
 
I can only speak for my own experience, but i've seen an evenly amount of all kinds of brutality commited by both men and women when i worked as a Police scribe, from insane murders to SA and CP.

As a victim of abuse, i always saw sexual subjucation of other people as nothing but repulsive, because that destroys a person deeply, and it never fully heals, regardless of how hard one tries to get over it.....

It's a sad state of our world, institutionalized abuse is for sure a reality, from top to bottom in most countries i would say. About 2 months ago a local priest was arrested by federal police for being the leader of a CP ring for 25 years, with connections and friends in high places, who are these demons hurting children for that long? We'll never know thanks to a plea deal

Corruption of what was once sacred and uplifting is a norm for the past few centuries, and this obsession with anal sex is imo a symptom of a much larger and dark disease
An even amount of crime from men and women - really? Sexual crime? I very much doubt it. And, by the way, when I said there’s something that has gone seriously wrong with men I meant all men. They’ve lost their moral compass and lost their minds. I remember a story from decades ago. A researcher asked random groups of ordinary men and women what they most feared in their relationships with the opposite sex. Men said they feared being laughed at. Women said they feared being killed. Sums it up really. I’d guess I’m in a small minority of females on this site so can I just ask the men on here to consider for a moment what that is like for the women in your lives - to never feel safe in their streets, in their homes. To watch what they say in case they cause offence. To worry every time their daughters don’t text to say they got home safely. Knowing that every perceived rejection of a male could result in a violent outburst. Not one woman I have known has ever said they weren’t abused in some way in their lifetime no matter how protected they were. And yet the discussion on here earlier was relating to anal sex with men as being an escape from the ‘constraints’ of being with a woman (and her unrealistic expectations of emotional involvement and respect?) Well that’s fine with me. You all go and fuck each other and leave us alone thanks all the same.
 
An even amount of crime from men and women - really? Sexual crime? I very much doubt it.
You can doubt it all you want, it's on you. I know what i saw and every interrogation i had to do, with both suspects and victims
And, by the way, when I said there’s something that has gone seriously wrong with men I meant all men. They’ve lost their moral compass and lost their minds.
well excuse me but what the actual fuck?? So somehow for being a man i've lost both my moral compass and my mind????
I remember a story from decades ago. A researcher asked random groups of ordinary men and women what they most feared in their relationships with the opposite sex. Men said they feared being laughed at. Women said they feared being killed. Sums it up really. I’d guess I’m in a small minority of females on this site so can I just ask the men on here to consider for a moment what that is like for the women in your lives - to never feel safe in their streets, in their homes. To watch what they say in case they cause offence.
all of the women in my life, lover, relatives and mom feel extremely safe around me because they know if any POS tries anything, that POS will answer to me and it won't be on nice terms
To worry every time their daughters don’t text to say they got home safely. Knowing that every perceived rejection of a male could result in a violent outburst. Not one woman I have known has ever said they weren’t abused in some way in their lifetime no matter how protected they were. And yet the discussion on here earlier was relating to anal sex with men as being an escape from the ‘constraints’ of being with a woman (and her unrealistic expectations of emotional involvement and respect?) Well that’s fine with me. You all go and fuck each other and leave us alone thanks all the same.
It doesn't matter what i say right, because i'm a man after all, and according to you a literal psycopath towards women.... wtf
 
You can doubt it all you want, it's on you. I know what i saw and every interrogation i had to do, with both suspects and victims

well excuse me but what the actual fuck?? So somehow for being a man i've lost both my moral compass and my mind????

all of the women in my life, lover, relatives and mom feel extremely safe around me because they know if any POS tries anything, that POS will answer to me and it won't be on nice terms

It doesn't matter what i say right, because i'm a man after all, and according to you a literal psycopath towards women.... wtf
The thing with the ‘not all men’ response (and yes of course I know it’s not all men) is that if it’s some men and you don’t know which men then all men become potential assailants. It’s the failure of men to understand that that’s the problem. To say you would defend any of the women around you isn’t actually the point. They have to feel safe to go out alone at night otherwise where’s their freedom? Something fundamental has been altered in the way men think and behave. I feel that the deep-rooted misogyny in every family in every country in the world has driven a wedge between the sexes and left both sides bereft. It’s a deliberate divide and rule tactic and has been introduced to destroy humanity from the inside out. The transgender agenda is driving the final nail in the coffin of human relationships and ultimately leaving children vulnerable to abuse and allowing access to them by predators as the children are cast adrift in the wreckage of the family. If men just repeat the mantra that they are not the problem, nothing will change. In the US news today, a man who took a woman hostage and threatened to remove her body parts to sell laughed about it with the police because it was a joke. This is the world we live in. It’s not a joke.
 
Men and women perfect each other in many ways, the perversion of this natural way is an agenda that as far as i remember by my research, goes back at least a century, possibly more. One clear example is how in the mainstream narrative homossexuality was the norm in the armies of "antiquity" (whatever/whenever that was), like one teacher at school once told me: 'see, most of the great men of the past were actually gay and they built the foundations for our society today, so we need to be progressives and acceptthe facts'. What a load of bullshit
Similarly , homosexuality and even pedophilia is praised in so called Persian poetry.
Lets read from iranicaonline.org

  • From the dawn of Persian poetry in the ninth century all through to the twentieth century, not only was homosexuality condoned in Persian poetry, but in fact homoeroticism formed almost the only amatory subject of Persian ghazals (short sonnet-like lyrics) and the main topic of much of Persian love poetry.
  • The “beloved” (q.v.) in Persian lyrics is, as a rule, not a female, but a young male, often a pubescent or adolescent youth, or a young boy. No sense of shame, no unease, no notion of concern for religious prohibition affects the exuberant descriptions of the male beloved or the passionate love displayed by the poets for him.
  • The beloved is sometimes a youth who serves as a page, but more often a young Turkish soldier.
  • In later times, when political and social circumstances changed and slaves were not as readily available as during the frontier wars, boys in different walks of life become the targets of homoerotic love.
  • There are several themes and motives in Persian lyrics that derive from the age, sex, and soldierly profession of the typical beloved. One is the frequent mention of soft hair budding on the upper lip and face of the beloved (called ḵaṭṭ) when he reaches puberty.
  • In Persian love lyrics, however, one can hardly find the kind of homosexual relationship that is understood in the modern West; love is a one-sided and asymmetrical affair. As a rule, it is between an adult male and a boy or youth. Therefore, it should be characterized more properly as pedophilia, and its physical aspect as pederasty, rather than described under the more nebulous concept of homosexual love.
  • In many poems the poet-lover describes himself as a fatherly figure to the beloved, and indeed a homosexual may take a catamite into his home and care for his well-being and education (acting as a ‘sugar daddy’).
I have grown up with such topics in my mind. I now understand that so-called "Persian poetry" was all written in different times and places for specific reasons. The pedophilic mystics as did not exist. In fact, Poems were written in the 17th and 18th centuries to normalize homosexuality and pedophilia, among other things. Beautiful religious ( Christian) hymns about Jesus have transformed into poems about young boys and sodomy. I will discuss it later.
 
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