SH Archive Hyperloop pneumatic subway existed in the 19th century

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Username: Effie
Date: 2019-04-19 13:17:32
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Off Topic: Cyrus Teed is an interesting fellow who dabbled in alchemy and invented a cellular cosmology, which had people living on the inside of the earth with a central sun in the middle. This essay was a fascinating read.
 
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Username: BStankman
Date: 2019-04-19 14:55:27
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sorry for off topic.

Those are some kind of curiosity.
It looks to me like someone was trying to piece together the true history of Siberia.
From behind an iron curtain, with only access to postcards.

If we take this one
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The arch is real
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Elephant / mastodons were there
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odd looking statues can be found
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the stone balls exist
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and odd pyramid structures
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Username: jd755
Date: 2019-04-22 16:23:59
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From the Louisiana Purchase exhibition in 1904 on the Pittsburgh Railway Exhibit. Cast or steel casing lined with concrete. Could have been made yesterday apart from the classy looking clerestory roof carriage section!

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View from the other side.

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Found these three sites whilst looking for something else. All relate to the Crystal Palace railway.
The Crystal Palace Pneumatic Railway - Page 2 - Sydenham Town Forum

Crystal Palace Pneumatic Railway

London’s Lost Pneumatic Railways
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-06-28 07:06:40
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What do we really know?

 
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Username: Timeshifter
Date: 2019-06-28 09:23:17
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Thin end of the wedge.

Imagine the tech that is hidden for us, by hidden I mean in plain sight we just arn't aware of it. Imagine what all the wifi and orher invisible energies are really doing, and or could be used for?
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-07-13 21:08:30
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Here is an interesting work pertaining to our pneumatic trains:
The narrative appears to be downplaying these 19th century Atmospheric Railways

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Improvement Patents+
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Source
Additionally would be nice to get a hold of this Volume 4 of the Engineering Papers.

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More patents: They were making improvements to the existing atmospheric railway systems.

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You can see more of these improvements right here:
 
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Username: whitewave
Date: 2019-07-14 20:41:42
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Interesting that they're called atmospheric railways" yet they apparently ran on steam. Why not "steam railways"?
 
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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-07-14 23:28:44
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Funny thing is, I can’t even imagine something like that operating on our streets today. It’s like too futuristic or something of sorts.
 
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Username: JWW427
Date: 2019-09-03 12:43:57
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I wonder if these 19th century inventors had foreknowledge of the many underground tunnels that supposedly crisscross our world.
If it's true that the US Military has access to a vacuum tube maglev train, or "Terradrve," one that can reportedly achieve mach 2.7, then
we might consider that the inventors may have known something we don't in the public sector. Some say many of the tunnels are ancient.
The word is they have tunnel boring machines (TBM) that are zero-point energy-powered, and they leave behind watertight anthracite walls via melting the surrounding rock; a 3-foot thick wall is left in place. The USAF have a public patent on the books circa 1973 for an "atomic" TBM.
Just food for thought.

JWW



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"Terradrive could also refer to the sub-terranean Mach 2.7 mag-lev trains, which connect all the secret underground bases around the world, according to the testimonies of previous government workers like Philip Schneider. The trains are also purported to be called the UN prisoner transport trains, which makes sense when some conspiracy theories are considered.
The US build two per year ($1 Trillion spent on such black projects). For testimony, see the www.youtube.com videos of Philip Schneider. 137.215.9.20 10:27, 21 September 2007 (UTC) Freeflow."

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Username: SuperTrouper
Date: 2020-06-11 09:11:01
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I really don't know where to post this. Does anyone know where this amazing subway station is located?

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Username: Bunnyman
Date: 2020-06-11 09:59:09
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That could be Dulce Base. The link below is a treasure trove on the thread topic imo.

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Below a link to the Fanatical Futurist site's article about the Mach 1.0 Hyperloop. The bio of the it's head honcho is interesting:

Matthew Griffin
Fanatical Futurist, NED, XPrize Mentor ● Int'l Advisor and Keynote Speaker ● Disruption, Futures and Innovation expert

Matthew Griffin, described as “The Adviser behind the Advisers” and a “Young Kurzweil,” is the founder and CEO of the World Futures Forum and the 311 Institute, a global Futures and Deep Futures consultancy working between the dates of 2020 to 2070, and is an award winning futurist, and author of “Codex of the Future” series. Regularly featured in the global media, including AP, BBC, Bloomberg, CNBC, Discovery, RT, Viacom, and WIRED, Matthew’s ability to identify, track, and explain the impacts of hundreds of revolutionary emerging technologies on global culture, industry and society, is unparalleled. Recognised for the past six years as one of the world’s foremost futurists, innovation and strategy experts Matthew is an international speaker who helps governments, investors, multi-nationals and regulators around the world envision, build and lead an inclusive, sustainable future. A rare talent Matthew’s recent work includes mentoring Lunar XPrize teams, re-envisioning global education and training with the G20, and helping the world’s largest organisations envision and ideate the future of their products and services, industries, and countries. Matthew's clients include three Prime Ministers and several governments, including the G7, Accenture, Aon, Bain & Co, BCG, Credit Suisse, Dell EMC, Dentons, Deloitte, E&Y, GEMS, Huawei, JPMorgan Chase, KPMG, Lego, McKinsey, PWC, Qualcomm, SAP, Samsung, Sopra Steria, T-Mobile, and many more.


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Username: revelinmusic
Date: 2020-07-19 04:25:36
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US73635A - Samuel b - Google Patents

Talks about a pneumatic system for sending packages. Well... That type of project would be unthinkable in today's world.
Honestly, it is kind of sad to see the world deteriorate.

What is it called? Pneumatic Dispatch.

And if anybody tries to call it an experiment... They are wrong.
Beach Pneumatic Transit – Wikipedia
Also the date and the pneumatic words are shaded out.

This website is under renovation:
Urban Ghosts Media is coming soon

And oh, did I mention the patents about pneumatic dispatch seem to suddenly stop about around 1930?
This part ANGERS me. Why are we not using this system. It seems more efficient.
And that there are about 3000 patents around this topic from ...-... on google patents
Well that is a lot of work just to create an experimental system.
Let's keep criticizing the official narrative. Google patents shows the earliest existence of pneumatic dispatch systems to be in 1869.
While Scientific American is already pumping out articles about pneumatic dispatch in 1861.
Well, when we have a date discrepancy, there is a red flag.
What if it was not experimental......You decide yourself.

You know...If I suddenly told my professor I wanted to build a system that uses air to send packages from Boston to New York, they would probably look at me in a very funny way right?

To top it off, there is a pneumatic dispatch article by scientific american in 1861, but when I try to access it online, it says the requested article cannot be displayed. (Using a university libraries search engine)
Somebody does not want us to see this:
Mmm... The link you clicked triggered a ProQuest search that returned more than the single document you were expecting. This happens when information provided by the link matches information stored with multiple documents in ProQuest. Explore the list, or use filters to narrow the results, or modify and re-run the search shown above.
Do I need to put in a FOI request?

Congress and the Pneumatic Dispatch System in this City
Pneumatic tube mail in New York City - Wikipedia
The article argues that there were better transportation systems but considering how fast Tesla claims his hyper loop can transport things, wouldn't a pneumatic system be the better way all along?
In fact, the scientific american quotes this system in the 1900s as being a permanent part of our postal system.

My brother came up and mentioned that these pneumatic systems seemed so cool and "thats so crazy. I have never seem anything like this this early". Well apparently these engineers in the 1800's were better engineers than Elon Musks Hyperloop team.
I am just shocked the elon musk wikipedia hyperloop article even mentions these early 1800s systems at all.
Instead of a 1km track, there were probably thousands of miles of pneumatic transports systems in the United States in the 1800's.

Okay. New Edit:
I did some math and a horse drawn carriage should go about 5-10 kmh if it is carrying a lot of stuff. We all know horses can run a lot faster than us so that puts them at easily 20 kmh at a good, constant running speed. But remember they are carrying a load. So I will say 15 kmh as a max
This means that...according to the attached pdf...
25 minutes by wagon is 3 minutes thru those pneumatic dispatcher tubes.
That is a multiplier of 8.33. Now, we will multiple those numbers to get an estimate of the speed and debunk wikipedia who claims they were not practical. That is the most important part...defending your viewpoints from critical stances. That is what I love about this forum. You have to be very very careful, otherwise your viewpoint will be criticized and you will look like a fool.
5*8.33 = approx 40 kmh minimum speed which is much much faster than a lot of 1920s or 1930s cars when the system was dismantled.
maximum estimated speed...15*8.33 = A WHOPPING 125 KMH!!!
Why would you throw away a technology away. Superior transportation technology my ass.

Sorry about the organization... I promise to fix it later.
 
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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-07-19 08:08:26
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Okay not strictly today but just last year the nearest Tesco finally removed their pneumatic system (from tills to strongroom and back). They were in use ever since the store opened sometime in the late nineties. Very efficient, very fast way to move things about. Cannot imagine why they went out of use!
 
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Username: revelinmusic
Date: 2020-07-19 08:12:11
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In todays world you need to have a system that maximizes the CO2 output and profits and then charge more and make more and swindle and squander more money to upgrade to a more "eco-friendly" solution. Gotta make that cash somehow.
 
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