Immigration taking place in the West

[Seiya]

Changing your belief is not in my gift.
Cheerio.

But nothing I posted it is my believe, it is fact with evidence evidence except when I said the I think looking all what's happening the immigrant is the least of the problems. I'm not defending immigration, it is put the emotions aside e access.

It's about putting emotions aside and addressing the root cause of the problem, not its consequences. Even if you could snap your fingers and make all third-world immigrants disappear, it wouldn't change anything. I do not know how I only know that the first thing you have to deal with a problem is identificar the cause and not the result it.
Now let me tell my believe: I believe that today the only one who ticks all the boxes necessary, the good and bad, to deal with the destruction and degradation of man is the real British, more specific the Englishman.

Or maybe I'm wrong and this world it is how is suppose to be, what I will never conform or accept. Evil will always exist because nothing is purely good or purely evil. Each one of us can produce good and evil at any moment, but it is up to us to always keep good above evil, never below 3/4. The more you increase the good in the balance of your soul, the closer you will be to the light, God. The Sun. That is enlightenment, your solar body.

 

[Seiya]

Changing your belief is not in my gift.
Cheerio.

But nothing I posted it is my believe, it is fact with evidence evidence except when I said the I think looking all what's happening the immigrant is the least of the problems. I'm not defending immigration, it is put the emotions aside e access.

It's about putting emotions aside and addressing the root cause of the problem, not its consequences. Even if you could snap your fingers and make all third-world immigrants disappear, it wouldn't change anything. I do not know how I only know that the first thing you have to deal with a problem is identificar the cause and not the result it.
Now let me tell my believe: I believe that today the only one who ticks all the boxes necessary, the good and bad, to deal with the destruction and degradation of man is the real British, more specific the Englishman.

 

[MaziarMohajer]

Hello
Happy to be here again.
I enjoyed reading the ideas expressed here.

What I can add is:

The mass migration has changed the westerners attitude toward other countries and the people living there.

By considering the migrants as invaders who lie to get benefits, there is a kind of generalization.

It means that a picture develops that all people with certain background , certain religion from certain countries want to migrate and destroy the western culture

While certainly that is not the case, it fuels a kind of hatred towards people who never think of migration and deeply dislike getting free benefits.

This hatred can justify wars and sanctions aimed at people of certain areas.

 

[Vechthaan]

TPTB aren't working to eradicate white people, they're working to eradicate the last stronghold of Christianity, which is in the Western world. The anwser to your question is part religious: European/white culture still carries the message of Jesus, the old Christian world conquered by Islam. TPTB aren't really jewish.

I'm just posting my 2 cents, maybe someone finds something of value.



The large majority of people of Western descent have an inherently Christian moral compass, despite not identifying as Christian or even rejecting it in modern times. That's another facet of what TPTB have done: prior to opening the gates to migration in the 2000's, they spend 3-4 decades inverting the European Christian colonial history through (leftist, progressive) academia and media.

The whole white man bad rethoric, despite every dataset and statistic showing the exact opposite, with large discrepancy between the various races. (IQ, EQ -propensity towards violence,stuff like that-, neoteny, ...) Which is why governments have been hiding and even lying about crime statistics for decades, the past days that's been a popular topic in the right wing side of social media.


TPTB have brought these immigrants in to replace us, with the larger eventual goal being Islamic take over. As a conspiracy theorist, this really shouldn't be that hard to phantom: The New World order we've always heard about, the dystopian future they show us in movies and books, it's essentially Islam's ummah, but with next generation technologies.


I'm not sure if the plan for replacement is sudden or long term, (sudden implying civil war, long term implying getting outbred which is currently already the case) but looking at how things are ramping up both within the Western world (the economy is not good, there's a lot of social unrest) aswell as global politics: European leaders doubling down on the Russian, Chinese or even American threat.



Tl;dr:

TPTB aren't looking to delete the white ethnicity specifically, it's our relatively peacefull/Christian way of life. It's the flame of Jesus' message (terms of salvation) that needs to be extinguished before satan's final takeover.

 

[feralimal]

The large majority of people of Western descent have an inherently Christian moral compass, despite not identifying as Christian or even rejecting it in modern times.

There is no such thing as an 'inherent Christian moral compass'. You might characterise it that way - but you placing your beliefs ahead of reality. Without getting into the truth of the story. it is certain you weren't born knowing the bible - someone taught it to you. Perhaps certain Christian moral ideas are conveyed by the culture, as you say - but it is not innate. We would agree if you said we each have 'inherent moral compass'.

 

[Vechthaan]

There is no such thing as an 'inherent Christian moral compass'. You might characterise it that way - but you placing your beliefs ahead of reality. Without getting into the truth of the story. it is certain you weren't born knowing the bible - someone taught it to you. Perhaps certain Christian moral ideas are conveyed by the culture, as you say - but it is not innate. We would agree if you said we each have 'inherent moral compass'.

The majority of people from Western descent have a moral compass that broadly alligns with what Jesus described how we should view the world. Yet the majority of these same people would not identify themselves as Christian or even denounce it. (I said as much in my post)

The current secular humanistic mindset is a consequence of the Enlightenment, which in it's turns was a distillation of Roman law, greek philosophy and a Christian set of morals/ethos. (aka Western/European civilisation)


Obviously noone is born of any faith, we're all born atheistic/agnostic and then indoctrinated by whatever environment you were brought up in. In a typical Western household, even to this day, that secular mindset still closely resembles what Jesus actually said.


- Everyone has basic human rights
- Don't do unto others what you don't want done to yourself
- Hold to truth, truth over honor
- Seperation between church and state (this is a deep theological point, the world is fallen hence we're called to be in the world, not of the world)
- Love your enemies


The rest of the world does not operate, and has no operated on this moral code, and it's why we have the division between the "Western" world and the 2nd and 3rd world. By any measurable statistic on human rights, living conditions, animal rights, ... Western countries blow everything else out of the water.


And that's not because "Western countries bombed the hell out of those 3rd world countries". We have the internet, you can go see yourself what life is like in these countries, what the people themselves believe and feel. The 3rd world is not a place a Westener wants to live. It's not a place where they want to live, it's why they're migrating to the West.


It's fine if you're not religious, I don't care about it, I'm all about freedom of religion. But I'm also about truth and calling a spade a spade, even if that spade denies being called a spade. If you see merit in the Christian values I've listed above, you're somewhat alligned with the Christian moral compass, wether you believe it's all a fairytale or not is kind of moot.


The larger point I made is people of European descent by and large still hold this Christian moral compass in their heart, despite being raised by atheistic parents who hold the same (Christian) moral compass.


That Christian heritage specifically is what TPTB are looking to get rid off (direct anwser to OP's question).

 

[FiveKickers]

TPTB aren't working to eradicate white people, they're working to eradicate the last stronghold of Christianity, which is in the Western world. The anwser to your question is part religious: European/white culture still carries the message of Jesus, the old Christian world conquered by Islam. TPTB aren't really jewish.

I'm just posting my 2 cents, maybe someone finds something of value.



The large majority of people of Western descent have an inherently Christian moral compass, despite not identifying as Christian or even rejecting it in modern times. That's another facet of what TPTB have done: prior to opening the gates to migration in the 2000's, they spend 3-4 decades inverting the European Christian colonial history through (leftist, progressive) academia and media.

The whole white man bad rethoric, despite every dataset and statistic showing the exact opposite, with large discrepancy between the various races. (IQ, EQ -propensity towards violence,stuff like that-, neoteny, ...) Which is why governments have been hiding and even lying about crime statistics for decades, the past days that's been a popular topic in the right wing side of social media.


TPTB have brought these immigrants in to replace us, with the larger eventual goal being Islamic take over. As a conspiracy theorist, this really shouldn't be that hard to phantom: The New World order we've always heard about, the dystopian future they show us in movies and books, it's essentially Islam's ummah, but with next generation technologies.


I'm not sure if the plan for replacement is sudden or long term, (sudden implying civil war, long term implying getting outbred which is currently already the case) but looking at how things are ramping up both within the Western world (the economy is not good, there's a lot of social unrest) aswell as global politics: European leaders doubling down on the Russian, Chinese or even American threat.



Tl;dr:

TPTB aren't looking to delete the white ethnicity specifically, it's our relatively peacefull/Christian way of life. It's the flame of Jesus' message (terms of salvation) that needs to be extinguished before satan's final takeover.

Eastern europe is also Christian land but TPTB don't seem to care much about this region. There is few immigration in those areas and the rulers of eastern europe countries aren't much in the globalist vibe contrary to western countries.
The Christian values were already there before Christ existed, 10 Commandments table is an example. Frankly, almost all religions share the same peaceful message and values. I think there is more to it

 

[Vechthaan]

Eastern europe is also Christian land but TPTB don't seem to care much about this region. There is few immigration in those areas and the rulers of eastern europe countries aren't much in the globalist vibe contrary to western countries.
The Christian values were already there before Christ existed, 10 Commandments table is an example. Frankly, almost all religions share the same peaceful message and values. I think there is more to it

Eastern Europe (Poland and Hungary in particular) are also experiencing less social problems. As it's looking right now, those countries will be later to fall.


Christian values weren't really around before Christ existed. Sure good people have always existed, but the world prior Christianity (including the Roman empire) was rampant with pedophelia, pederasty, slavery, patriarchal and so on. There is something positive to say about religions like Buddhism and the likes, but those are (like Christianity) the outliers. The world prior to Jesus was not very good place to live in by modern human rights standards.

There's several historian channels on youtube that delve into this, specifiically how romantized the modern interpretation of things like the Roman empire, the Greek, the meso-american -ancient aliens-, ... have become. We've completely omitted the rampant slavery, slaughters, sex slavery, pederasty from history.

Christianity is not the same as Mosaic law, Mosaic law still has eye for an eye. Mosaic law, like Islam and other religions also lacks logos.

EG:
Honor your mother and father. What if my father is a serial murderer, should I follow Mosaic law and honor the 'family business'?

If your anwser is: "If your father is a murderer, obviously, you shouldn't honor him", you're already in conflict with Judaism and Islam for example. The simply property of "reasoning through" the religion: what are we called to do and why matter. That's logos. It's not obvious to other religions if the religion says X, but you're confronted with some obscure outlier; it creates serious conflict. -this is more specific to the Abrahamic religions-


Not all religions share the same peacefull message, that is part of the cultural subversion I mentioned in my first post. If you think Judaism, Christianity and Islam have similar values and message, it's not true. Such a mindset also leads to: "all religions are equal and have some merit, therefore all religions are equally dismissable", it's throwing out the baby with the bathwater.


Specifically, there's a huge overlap between what TPTB have been doing (pedophelia, body horrors -pizzagate thing-, class/caste system) and Islamic theology. There's a reason why TPTB would want Sharia law across the entire world, that reason being quite obvious: everything "Epstein" would be normalized and legal, and even a good/rightious thing.