SH Archive International Space Station saga: musical oranges or didgeridoo that gorilla

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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-04-12 20:46:22
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Same fairy tale different photo.
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All change.
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Username: dreamtime
Date: 2020-04-16 16:50:21
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covid-19 psy-op merges with ISS psy-op

 
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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-04-17 17:54:01
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Doesn't she realise she's on earth again?
"Me arms, me arms."
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EDIT Are those Blackhawks in the background?
 
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Username: Hansel
Date: 2020-06-17 04:52:48
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Exciting news, everyone!

Scientists from NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, in collaboration with the astronauts alleged to be aboard the ISS, have for the first time created a Bose-Einstein condensate, the exotic fifth state of matter.... in SPACE!!

Initially, I wanted to feature some highlights from the Popular Mechanics article linked above, but I found it too difficult. Each sentence is more ridiculous than the last, and I'm amazed by the author's ability to use so many words while conveying almost no information. @KorbenDallas will probably be relieved to learn that "All the experiments are controlled remotely, so astronauts don’t have to do anything but leave CAL [Cold Atom Laboratory] alone." I don't think anyone here wants to see our brave astronauts further overworked -- that didgeridoo isn't going to play itself, and it probably isn't safe to do cutting-edge science experiments in Halloween costumes, anyway.

I would be remiss, however, if I didn't link directly to this video, produced by JPL approximately one year ago, which the author describes as a "proof of concept" of this now-completed scientific breakthrough:


I will admit that I'm no scientist, but to my untrained eye, the foregoing video is a proof of concept of a real experiment in the same way that Pixar's Toy Story proves that toys come to life whenever people leave the room.
 
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Username: GlobeHead69
Date: 2020-06-17 07:13:21
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More of nasa mockery please :)
 
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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-06-17 07:15:30
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well I read the article because I was gonna try to bring out some of the main points but alas there were no points just some hilarious contradictory statements ,well all the statements. Oh yeah and covid 19 :unsure:
 
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Username: Huaqero
Date: 2020-06-17 07:49:19
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Indeed...
  • " On Earth’s surface, the atoms begin to repel each other and fly apart almost instantaneously. In space, they lasted a cool entire second-plus under observation. " > Yeah, because gases wait to detect gravity before they expand...
  • " Without gravity, the atoms float like anything else." > Sure, but don't bother that even visible dust particles do so with gravity...
Physics today, either theoretical or experimental, exists only to invent 'proofs' of anything related to one Einstein and his dedicated cult followers.
 
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Username: Hansel
Date: 2020-06-17 12:06:25
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How about this part?

"The CAL highlights the second major appeal of space, where not just the gravity is near zero. NASA bills CAL as “the coolest spot in the universe,” piggybacking cutting-age cooling technology from Earth’s surface with the naturally ice cold temperature in deep space."

Is this supposed to imply that the lab isn't actually inside of the ISS? Did they strap it to the roof using high-tech bungee cords? I always assumed that the ISS had some kind of life support system to protect its inhabitants from the ice cold temperatures in deep space low earth orbit... but again, I'm no scientist, so what do I know?

In an effort to get to get to the bottom of this mystery, I found another fun video, published by Seeker this past December:

I have a few thoughts:
  1. I appreciate that the creators of this video were (slightly) less heavy-handed with the CGI, as compared to the JPL production. The laser displays in this video have more of a "stock footage from a retro science class video" vibe.
  2. Apparently the CAL is located in the center of mass of the ISS, next to the astronauts' exercise bike. At 6:00 minutes, one of the JPL scientists calls this "pretty ludicrous." I can't say that I disagree with his assessment.
  3. Around 3:30 in this video, the narrator states "after decades of technical progress, scientists finally made Bose-Einstein Condensate in the lab... it lasted a glorious 15 to 20 seconds." Huh?? This contradicts everything that I have now learned about the fifth state of matter, which is apparently only stable for 1 second in microgravity, as noted in this recent press release. NASA evangelists will probably claim that the narrator simply misspoke, but I don't know.
 
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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-06-17 16:21:41
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Isciencey.jpg

the control panel at 4:33 just blew my mind ,just the idea that there is a control somewhere that regulates RF Rubidium. is staggering.


 
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Username: Firefly
Date: 2020-06-17 19:09:30
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And yet, when they show the interior of the ISS it looks like someone dumped a tub of spaghetti in there. When Scott Kelly is flying around in his gorilla suit, what if he catches his foot on a cable to the atom chip dispenser?
 
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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-06-17 21:09:51
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I found this old article Privatizing the ISS because I wanted to show you the endless, pointless. tangled useless wiring and found a clown show.

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Asstronot Katie Rubin wearing a hand painted space painted by no less than childhood cancer patients at University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer
Center in Houston. Now we have shameless exploitation of children with cancer in the mix. I cant stop laughing at this mess because you know it has to be super sciency when you see all those wires. I mean who but a scientist could understand and apply so much technological connecty stuff all in one place!

Then there's the outside which has just as much nonsensical chatzkies attached as to it as the inside and the attendant article The Space walk That Almost Killed Him explaining the dangers of extravehicular activity or as us ground based space fans call it 'space walk". The article gets a little softcore porn at this paragraph


[QUOTE Rubbing the sleep from his eyes and still in his boxers, Cassidy floated down the dark passage toward the U.S. lab, where Marshburn was already up, having just read the same news. “All I could see was his white teeth smiling,” recalls Cassidy, “and I think he saw the same thing on me. And without saying a word, we high-fived.” They were more than happy to squeeze in another EVA, absolutely. What astronaut wouldn’t be? ] [/QUOTE]

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Bow Chicka Bow Wow
 
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Username: Klenas
Date: 2020-06-18 11:14:34
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I am checking these links a lot lately.

1st:

It seems like there is an astronaut spacewalking 24/7. Why do they need that?

2nd:

The map which shows where the station is not matching what we see from it.
example:

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Why?

Also this:

The ISS passes into the dark side of the earth for roughly half of each of its 90-minute orbits. As the Space Station passes into a period of night every 45 mins video is unavailable - during this time, and other breaks in transmission recorded footage is shown when back in daylight earth will recommence. As seen from the Nasa ISS live stream on the International Space Station - A real astronaut view of Earth! Captured by ISS HDEV cameras onboard the International Space Station.

What is the problem with night shifts? Why do they not show it when it is in the dark?
 
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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-06-18 15:38:16
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I don't know, I don't know what they're supposedly fixing ,and you would think if they are going into space all the time practically everyday.,some one would have died or been injured but no 100% clean safety record. NASA is just amazing like that I guess
 
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Username: greatshakes
Date: 2020-06-19 02:17:05
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Of all ongoing hoaxes, is any more insulting than the ISS? The ridiculous "experiments" and other tomfoolery show exactly what the controllers think of us. Pee, poop, gorilla suits (calling back to the evolution hoax, of course), successfully brushing one's teeth (or not), etc., are subjects of interest to small children, and indeed the intended audience for ISS media products is probably children, for whom it is hoped that the videos will serve as preliminary indoctrination into the fantastic mysteries of "space" and "space travel." But a majority of adults also receive this nonsense as accurate depictions of a bold scientific mission among the stars -- thereby showing themselves to be worse than children, since adults should know better.

It is really preposterous, and the farce may be growing thin -- even for children, or for adults who have forgotten that adulthood implies discernment. There's only so many times you can hear about pooping in space.

I think all that remains, at this point, is for the crew of this floating tin can to be heroically sacrificed in some terrible accident, similar to the "Challenger disaster" that helped bring about the end of the space shuttle era. Such a forthcoming sacrificial event, which the "tiny hole in the ISS" discussed earlier in this thread probably prefigures, could be displayed live on television to millions of horrified children just like the Challenger event, thereby further imprinting the space lie via trauma. And anybody who subsequently continued to question whether the old ISS footage was actually green screens, wires, vomit comets, swimming pools, and so on, would be branded a social outcast for questioning the noble activities of the space heroes who had so tragically given their lives for space science.
 
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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-06-19 05:47:38
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that was brilliantly spoken
 
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Username: usselo
Date: 2020-06-19 09:03:51
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That's a great catch. Look at the blue tapes attached to the lower parts of their trousers (US: pants :)). When upside down, see how the trousers are taut up to the point where the blue tapes attach but seem to fold (and drape downwards) above where the blue tapes are attached. What do the blue tapes do? Generally, they go up to - presumably - attachment points. In other words, the tapes are holding their trouser legs up.

Arguably, their lower eyelids also give them that "I'm upside down" look.

Note the reflective light screen (used by photographers and film-makers for filling in shadows) to her left. And the absolute morass of cameras and telescopic lenses. "Are they in a spacecraft or a studio", prompts the occult hint.

Same blue tape problem (and one boot 'trapped' under something - usually a foot platform with restraints [occult hint) in the photos on the next page. And the 'drape' of some their uniforms is also 'off'. Eg, the guy on the right whose collar is approaching his ears...

Later add: OK, got it. Look at the shape of the boots in the picture where all three are oriented the same way with their hands around each other's shoulders. For each person, one boot is 'trapped' under an item that is visibly a foot restraint designed for someone working at the nearby equipment station. However, the other boots (her right boot, middle guy's left boot) each have a black protrusion around the sole near the ball of their foot. I think those protrusions are clamps. That's why the set is arranged to hide one boot: because it would be more obvious if all boots' clamps were visible. So they hid one boot of each actor astronot under a foot restraint platform. Kind of a joke within a joke to do that.

Now the real purpose of the taut blue straps becomes clear. They aren't just holding up their trousers, they are holding up the astronots. There are weight-bearing harnesses built into the lower half of each suit. The blue tapes transfer the weight of the astronots from the harnesses to clips built into the black boot clamps. Look carefully at the front of each suit's leg. You can see where a panel of tape runs up the leg and broadens out as it approaches each astronot's abdomen. That also explains the broad, tight-looking dark blue hip panels on the suits. They transfer the weight of the astronots at the hips and, perhaps, are dark to help hide the stretching and creasing that might occur there.

I'd guess the point of the blue straps with their clips is that they let you pose the astronots in different places. The little dark grey squares on the light grey floor cover beneath them may well be covers - or tape - covering eyelets where the boot clamps (and astronot-bearing clips) can be fixed.

As with EUAFU's original video, these clues *must* be deliberately placed. They are Continuity 101 mistakes. So, why are they there? Are they tests, jests (ie mockery), or calls to wake up?
 
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Username: Huaqero
Date: 2020-06-19 11:14:24
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I have seen the ISS through the telescope, I have photographed it, (ok, it was an embarrassing photo, lol) and I have watched the space shuttle follow it while undocking. It is up there for you to see it, too.
However, I do agree that its operation serves ONLY to pour money into the numerous scientists and corporations that are involved.

We do not need it.
It is a colossal waste of money.
It diverges from more exciting human missions.
It is humongously bigger than it needed to be.
We could do weightless experiments on robotic missions.
It will end spectacularly, I hope without victims.
The claim that we need it for the silly 'experiments' that are conducted there, is an insult to the public.
It offers amazing views of the earth, but the fact that these are taken on ... ordinary handheld cameras behind a window glass would kill aliens with unstoppable laughter.

On the other hand, our planet is evolving into the Planet of the Apes.
In a few generations the musical sheets, the mathematical functions and the engineering draws will need deciphering
as there will be not enough people left to sustain the cultural and scientific advancements that we now enjoy.
We are being favella-ized; the Covid-scam was a major push towards that; endless migrations is another.

So, please, stop it with the 'fake-ISS' stories, and get yous @ςς out to try see it tonight passing over your hometown.
You still have this privilege!
 
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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-06-20 07:10:12
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Some facts from here
But first a picture.
This is the thing all these facts are referring to.
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Fact one;
"It circles the globe every 90 minutes at a speed of about 17,500 mph (28,000 km/h)."

Fact two;
"The International Space Station was taken into space piece-by-piece and gradually built in orbit using spacewalking astronauts and robotics. "

And for the children

Fact one;
"With the naked eye, the ISS can be seen from nearly every area of Earth at some point in time, it appears as a slow moving bright white dot in the night sky."

Fact two;
"As of 2013, there has been 174 spacewalks outside the modules in support of the ISS's construction and maintenance, that's almost 1,100 hours (nearly 46 days)."

Fact three;
"The first part of the ISS sent to space was the module called Zarya. It was launched into space on a Russian Proton rocket on November 20th, 1998. Zarya provided propulsion, attitude control, communications and electrical power."

Ye gods!
 
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Username: HollyHoly
Date: 2020-06-20 07:49:45
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Dont forget it has to be boosted back into orbit by the cygnus Cygnus or it fall down and although it gets resupplied and the cygnus docks with while it is whizzing around at these impossible speeds nothing ever goes wrong. It's just one big gorilla suit digeridoo hootenany
 
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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-06-20 11:11:04
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Ye gods part II
This is all factual.

science.nasa.gov
Water on the Space Station

November 2, 2000 --
Rationing and recycling will be an essential part of daily life on the ISS. In orbit, where Earth's natural life support system is missing, the Space Station itself has to provide abundant power, clean water, and breathable air at the right temperature and humidity -- 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, indefinitely. Nothing can go to waste.

Making a Splash in Space
"We have plenty of water on the Space Station now," says Jim Reuter, leader of the ECLSS group at the Marshall Space Flight Center. "The Russian module Zarya is packed with contingency water containers (CWCs) that were carried over from the Space Shuttle during assembly missions earlier this year. They look like duffle bags and each one holds about 90 lbs."

"But it's expensive to ferry water from Earth," he added. "We have to recycle. There's already a Russian-built water processor in orbit that collects humidity from the air. Here at Marshall we're building a regenerative system that will be able to recycle almost every drop of water on the station and support a crew of seven with minimal resupplies."

"The water that we generate is much cleaner than anything you'll ever get out of any tap in the United States," says Carter. "We certainly do a much more aggressive treatment process (than municipal waste water treatment plants). We have practically ultra-pure water by the time our water's finished."
"While you try to mimic what's happening on Earth -- which is so complicated if you really think about it -- we have to use systems that we can control 100 percent," said Monsi Roman, chief microbiologist for the ECLSS project at MSFC. ECLSS depends on machines -- not microbes -- because, "if a machine breaks, you can fix it."
The water purification machines on the ISS will cleanse wastewater in a three-step process.
The first step is a filter that removes particles and debris. Then the water passes through the "multi-filtration beds," which contain substances that remove organic and inorganic impurities. And finally, the "catalytic oxidation reactor" removes volatile organic compounds and kills bacteria and viruses.

Every Drop Counts
On the space station, people will wash their hands with less than one-tenth the water that people typically use on Earth. Instead of consuming 50 liters to take a shower, which is typical on Earth, denizens of the ISS will use less than 4 liters to bathe.

Even with intense conservation and recycling efforts, the Space Station will gradually lose water because of inefficiencies in the life support system.
"We will always need resupply, because none of the water reprocessing technology that is available right now for space flight ... is 100 percent efficient. So there's always some minimal loss," said Marybeth Edeen, deputy assistant manager of environmental control and life support at NASA's Johnson Space Center.

Water is lost by the Space Station in several ways: the water recycling systems produce a small amount of unusable brine; the oxygen-generating system consumes water; air that's lost in the air locks takes humidity with it; and the CO2 removal systems leach some water out of the air, to name a few.

Lost water will be replaced by carrying it over from the Shuttle or from the Russian Progress rocket. The Shuttle produces water as its fuel cells combine hydrogen and oxygen to create electricity, and the Progress rocket can be outfitted to carry large containers of water.

The ECLSS life support system will join the Space Station as part of Node 3, which is scheduled to launch in October 2005. Until then, the environment inside the ISS will be maintained primarily by life support systems on the Russian Zvezda Service Module.


But in 2008 they invented a system which reduced the water supply sent to the ISS by 6.8t (tons) per year!
6.8 tons of water being manhandled from shuttle/rocket to ISS in 90lb duffle bags whilst moving at 17,500 miles per hour 250 miles above the earth with the light and dark swapping places eery 90 minutes.

Link

With the arrival of the new water recovery system (WRS) in November 2008, the International Space Station (ISS) moved closer towards its planned increase in crew and mankind took another small step towards the exploration of deep space.
Reducing the need to be resupplied from Earth, the system will decrease the quantity of water and consumables required to be launched by about 6.8t a year


How dumb were the NASA people back in the days of Apollo?

By the end of the 1960s, as work towards JF Kennedy’s pledge of putting a man on the moon by the end of that decade culminated in the historic Apollo 11 landing, it had become apparent that the future of human space exploration would require systems to recycle water and oxygen to be developed.

Very!!
 
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