SH Archive Mandela Effect, NYC Towers and the Large Hadron Collider

[Bald Eagle]

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Username: Bald Eagle
Date: 2019-04-27 19:47:11
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So, my SO does not believe in the Mandela Effect at all. I do believe in the ME, so I always like to share interesting stories like yours with my SO. I didn't tell him this was a potential ME, I just said listen to this story, and then I read your story and when I got to the end of the quoted part above, he is like, "yup, I saw that TV show." He remembers it almost exactly as you describe, other than he says the reporter/researchsaying this was a "potential" cure for aids that they needed to use on more people. He doesn't remember the year, but said he was watching it on CNN with his dad, he would have been a late tween/teenager.

He still doesn't believe in the ME (he thinks like your original thought, pharmaceutical cover-up of some type.)

Heating Blood Criticized As Treatment of AIDS

 

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Username: ISeenItFirst
Date: 2019-04-27 20:57:28
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Heating Blood Criticized As Treatment of AIDS

That link not loading for me. However, I specifically remember that he said that the heating was a side effect and not the effective action. I dunno, because I can't find it having ever happened, so...

 

[madroona]

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Username: madroona
Date: 2019-05-26 20:01:33
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I have created three 9/11 videos and the buildings in the image presented above do not match the raw helicopter footage that I have based my videos on. Not even close. The buildings were generally vertically oriented with the frame's webbing very noticeably prominent. These images look like somebody's effort at photoshop.

The helicopter video is from the other side, but I doubt the sides are not visually symmetric. The quality is low, but not so low as to hide darker banding. You can see a similar band across the top as the vertical structs differ there.

 

[realitycheck]

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Username: realitycheck
Date: 2019-06-01 16:04:58
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Regarding changes in reality or ME, logos, names and smaller not so important stuff does not worry me it can be change in reality it can be false memory, what worries me are some bigger changes that I have experienced that got me wondering is this real world or matrix... I will write 3 major glitches that happened in my life - things that I am 100% sure of and have clear, vivid memories of.

1. When I was 12 years old, bunch of us kids (10-15 kids) were playing football (soccer) on school playground after school and at one moment one kid yelled "Look!" and pointed above behind me, I turned just in time to see rotating triangle that was changing colours go up in clouds. It all lasted maybe a second. Few kids saw it, some saw soemthing go in cloud, some didnt look in time and didn't see anything as they watched football. There was lots of talk about it and we keept on watching sky for good half hour will it appear again (but it didn't). I remeber there was lots of talk and questions about it for us who saw it in next few days and teachers / adults didin't give it much attention - I guess they attributed it to child imagination. After maybe week later it was "old news" among kids and new themes took place. But few years later there was some talk about UFO's when we were hanging out (now high school kids) and as there was few kids there that were with me on that "triangle" day I remebered and asked "Do you remember that day when we were playing soccer and Name Surname yelled and we saw that triangle?". And nobody knew what I was talking about. I said how do you not remember - you, you, you and you were there, you two also said you saw it at the time, you two didnt see it but you must remember all the talk about it. But nobody didn't have any memory of that day, so I changed subjet so I do not look crazy. Few days later I saw kid that also saw it and he also remember but not in much detail, but he did remember game and that we stoped and something like triangle in sky. Few days after that when I asked him if he could confirm my story to other guys as he also remmbers he changed story and said that he does not remeber anything like that. Later I found guy who first saw it any yelled "Look" but he didn't have any memory of it also... I know I am only one who rembers it but it was so imbeded in my memory as major event in my life. And that was before I had any interest in ufo, conspiracy theories etc...

2. I have village near my town where my father came from and we have house there and go there frequently, I have over 20 years of driving experience and drive that road (to village and back) numerous times I could drive it with my eyes closed so to say. Road goes trough other small town with few stop lights. One weekend about two years ago saturday morning I went to village with my gf and sunday afternoon we go back. On way back when in that small town where stop light used to be now there is roundabout - I was WTF is this? my gf also was shocked and wondered same as me. In my country roundabouts were not used or very rarely - so I am 100% sure I would remember roundabout on that road. Roundabout was completely finished with plants in middle. There was no workers or machinery there on saturday moring or any leftovers on sunday afternoon. I am sure that it may be possible to make and finish roundabout in one day but in my country it takes them a week to fix a small hole on the road with road blocks and traffic jams. I searched in news when it was made but as there was some mentioning that it will / should be done but no article or mentioning when it was made which is wierd that some politican didn't make grand opening to take credit and not to forget that is only roundabout in that town and I guess that should be a news...

3. This will be quick - I live in same flat almost 30 years now, I remember looking at sunsets from my balcony and where sun used to set during what time of year - I would bet on my life that position where sun sets now is not same, it is about 20-30 degres closer to north then most further north-west position where it used to set during summer... call me crazy but I have buildings around as fixed points and I do not have one memory of sun setting behind building to my north where it set now... Noticed this about 3-4 ago. Talked with my brother to ask him where he remembers sun setting during summer and confirmed my memories, he was also surprised how far north sun is setting.

 

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Username: RecycledSoul
Date: 2019-06-01 16:30:56
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...This will be quick - I live in same flat almost 30 years now, I remember looking at sunsets from my balcony and where sun used to set during what time of year - I would bet on my life that position where sun sets now is not same, it is about 20-30 degres closer to north then most further north-west position where it used to set during summer... call me crazy but I have buildings around as fixed points and I do not have one memory of sun setting behind building to my north where it set now... Noticed this about 3-4 ago. Talked with my brother to ask him where he remembers sun setting during summer and confirmed my memories, he was also surprised how far north sun is setting.

I have noticed something similar where I live in the last 3-4 weeks. I’ve lived my half century in the same area of Central Indiana, a bit North of Indianapolis.
There’s a time that my drive to work is in the dark, then as spring progresses it becomes a drive in daylight until late fall arrives. Earlier in May, I noticed Sunrays streaming into my bedroom window on the North side of my house, illuminating my ciggy Smoke. I walked outside, and the entire North side of my house was illuminated with sunlight, and so were the neighbor’s.
It has been common knowledge my hole life the Sun never shines the North side of any object. North facing siding on any structure or tree have always had algae problem.
It is common for sun to rise farther south in winter and spring, then progressively traverse further North in height of summer.
I was going to make a post here, but wanted to do more research.
I remember my wife telling me last summer to pressure wash North siding. When I told her no North Siding in our area is without algae, she looked at me like I was stupid, & denied any knowledge of my claim the sun never shines on that siding.
I come to the conclusion the Sun is rising much further North than before, maybe as you say 30-40deg.
Whether this is ME, or our Sun’s orbit/size/distance changed, I don’t know. SOMETHING changed!
It also rains here every day now, unlike before. It reminds me of family trips to Florida in the 80’s when I was a teen. Weather patterns have shifted North. Florida is now drier than Indiana.
US Rain/Dry Days | Early Warning and Environmental Monitoring Program

 

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Username: Radal16
Date: 2019-06-01 23:28:18
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I have seen three versions of Rodin's "The Thinker." My first version was him holding a tightly closed fist UNDER his chin, then I saw him with a closed fist on his forehead, the third version is the current version where he's got an open hand and he's chewing his knuckles while completely contorted. You can try to explain to me how having a memory of three different versions of The Thinker is the result of my faulty memory?

That is not the only effect I've seen but it's the easiest to describe to other people, though I don't talk about it at all to people face to face. I'm partial to the merging timelines/dimensions theories but there's another aspect going on where people's memories are being altered. I asked my MIL once about the lion and lamb which she said she remembered, then came back a few weeks later and said, "Actually, I remember it was the wolf and the lamb." She got a memory download that I did not.

Why do some people experience the ME and some don't? Personally I think it's a spiritual thing, some people are ready for it and some aren't. Finding out that reality can change really messes you up, it's unsettling to say the least. But it did lead me to spirituality and a lot of contemplation about souls, Creator and what that might all mean.

 

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Username: neuroflux
Date: 2019-06-02 00:24:12
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I wrote this a few years ago, it's about Dolly's Braces in Moonraker. Perhaps it will interest some of you? Dolly's Braces

 

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2019-06-02 00:37:37
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If it's a thing- which is seeming it could be- I think the best explanation is mind control experimentation of large groups. The capability is there (EM, microwave, propaganda/citizen directing, and ongoing already in other ways.
I asked a family member (around my age) who is a really fine speller, editor, etc. how to spell dilemna and she said dilemma... that's my big one.
The sun phenomenon is probably something else, but I never thought of it being a psyop, too... why not, everything seems to be.

 

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Username: Searching
Date: 2019-06-02 01:23:51
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Why do some people experience the ME and some don't?

I think of it as the Willy Lomax psychosis. In Death of a Salesman, an insecure, self-deluded traveling salesman, Willy, believes wholeheartedly in the American Dream of easy success and wealth, but he never achieves it. Nor do his sons fulfill his hope that they will succeed where he has failed. When Willy’s illusions begin to fail under the pressing realities of his life, his mental health begins to unravel.

People are like Willy. They have built their entire lives, their very identity, on what they were taught to be true. Changes like ME will be ignored and denied by them as long as possible so that they can continue to live in their cocoon of how they were told it would be. To accept anything other than that causes them to mentally break down.

Oh, and I remember Willie LomaX. It is now Willie LomaN, so I found an ME while trying to analogize ME.

We live in a wild place.

 

[Bald Eagle]

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Username: Bald Eagle
Date: 2019-06-02 01:28:00
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If it's a thing- which is seeming it could be- I think the best explanation is mind control experimentation of large groups. The capability is there (EM, microwave, propaganda/citizen directing, and ongoing already in other ways.
I asked a family member (around my age) who is a really fine speller, editor, etc. how to spell dilemna and she said dilemma... that's my big one.
The sun phenomenon is probably something else, but I never thought of it being a psyop, too... why not, everything seems to be.

Well, I always used to spell it dilemna - because I learned the perpetuated misspelling of it.

A lemma in math is a proposition. A di-lemma is a a dual proposition.

A dilemma (Greek: δίλημμα "double proposition") is a problem offering two possibilities, neither of which is unambiguously acceptable or preferable. The possibilities are termed the horns of the dilemma, a clichéd usage, but distinguishing the dilemma from other kinds of predicament as a matter of usage.

All sorts of weird stuff, that's for sure.

Have you read Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid, by Douglas Hofstadter.?

He covers
Gödel's two incompleteness theorems:
The first incompleteness theorem states that in any consistent formal system Fwithin which a certain amount of arithmetic can be carried out, there are statements of the language of F which can neither be proved nor disproved in F.
According to the second incompleteness theorem, such a formal system cannot prove that the system itself is consistent (assuming it is indeed consistent).

For me, this ties in with the Universe as a simulation theory - because if I just edited your code, or corrupted it, --- how would you know?
You might have an array that has an entry that is supposed to match with some other datum, and when they don't match, A !== B, then M.E.

I've found some of the talks on YT by Brian Greene with regard to higher dimensions and the Calabi-Yau manifold, and wormholes and quantum entanglement by Leonard Susskind to be really thought-provoking.

Now, the speed of light is generally recognized as a limit, and there's the whole let there be light thing, so perhaps light is related to this all somehow. Especially with regard to the observation of photons and the Heisenberg uncertainty principle.
So check out the REAL story on what light is and how it behaves,

(It's 4 long parts. That's why I've only watched it twice )

And then let this bake your noodle.

 

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Username: RecycledSoul
Date: 2019-06-02 01:35:43
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When I posted this morning in regard to sun position, I thought the trajectory had possibly changed. I knew sun was rising further North, but assumed it was setting further south (angle change). Here is a pic I took on a true East/West county road at 8 pm this evening, EST, in Central Indiana, USA. This is Delaware County Indiana road 900N, if anyone wants to check a map. I am driving straight West, on June 1, 2019, nowhere near summer solstice yet, and sun too far North.

 

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2019-06-02 15:19:06
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Well, I always used to spell it dilemna - because I learned the perpetuated misspelling of it.

That could be but have you found any documentation, or reasons why etc, this happened?
There a new movie out about a dictionary- the professor and the mad man (or vice versa). Anyone see this?

 

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Username: UnusualBean
Date: 2019-06-06 19:56:37
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I have noticed something similar where I live in the last 3-4 weeks. I’ve lived my half century in the same area of Central Indiana, a bit North of Indianapolis.
There’s a time that my drive to work is in the dark, then as spring progresses it becomes a drive in daylight until late fall arrives. Earlier in May, I noticed Sunrays streaming into my bedroom window on the North side of my house, illuminating my ciggy Smoke. I walked outside, and the entire North side of my house was illuminated with sunlight, and so were the neighbor’s.
It has been common knowledge my hole life the Sun never shines the North side of any object. North facing siding on any structure or tree have always had algae problem.
It is common for sun to rise farther south in winter and spring, then progressively traverse further North in height of summer.
I was going to make a post here, but wanted to do more research.
I remember my wife telling me last summer to pressure wash North siding. When I told her no North Siding in our area is without algae, she looked at me like I was stupid, & denied any knowledge of my claim the sun never shines on that siding.
I come to the conclusion the Sun is rising much further North than before, maybe as you say 30-40deg.
Whether this is ME, or our Sun’s orbit/size/distance changed, I don’t know. SOMETHING changed!
It also rains here every day now, unlike before. It reminds me of family trips to Florida in the 80’s when I was a teen. Weather patterns have shifted North. Florida is now drier than Indiana.
US Rain/Dry Days | Early Warning and Environmental Monitoring Program

I've recently gotten back into sunbathing and I've noticed that the sun now rises in the Northeast, not the East. It's kind of disorienting. Not sure if it's an ME or just a massive axis shift that the authorities are purposely ignoring.

I haven't been out much in the evenings due to it not being exceptionally safe around here at night, but I'll take a look later to see if the sun is setting in the Southeast.

 

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Username: RecycledSoul
Date: 2019-06-06 20:17:00
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I've recently gotten back into sunbathing and I've noticed that the sun now rises in the Northeast, not the East. It's kind of disorienting. Not sure if it's an ME or just a massive axis shift that the authorities are purposely ignoring.

I haven't been out much in the evenings due to it not being exceptionally safe around here at night, but I'll take a look later to see if the sun is setting in the Southeast.

Doesn’t sound like ME, according to this WP
Axis Shift & Epic Global Changes
Sounds like we need a different thread for this, although I don’t know how to apply it to the forum theme just yet.

 

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Username: UnusualBean
Date: 2019-06-06 21:55:54
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Doesn’t sound like ME, according to this WP
Axis Shift & Epic Global Changes
Sounds like we need a different thread for this, although I don’t know how to apply it to the forum theme just yet.

...Huh, after reading a few posts there I broke out a compass and it turns out the sun is actually rising almost directly in the North. I thought my house was aligned North-South, but it's actually Northeast-Southwest

Still not sure what's going on, if there's any ME action involved or not, but the sun now officially rises in the North hereabouts.

Edit: Apparently I'm not supposed to use a GPS compass, so now I'm really not sure what's going on. I need to buy me an analog compass soon

 

[Whitewave]

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Username: whitewave
Date: 2019-06-06 22:57:31
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Doesn’t sound like ME, according to this WP
Axis Shift & Epic Global Changes
Sounds like we need a different thread for this, although I don’t know how to apply it to the forum theme just yet.

Spent some time perusing that site and the guy has some good info. Too bad he won't let anyone post it anywhere but I guess posting the link to his site will get you to the info.

 

[realitycheck]

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Username: realitycheck
Date: 2019-06-07 18:01:36
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Doesn’t sound like ME, according to this WP
Axis Shift & Epic Global Changes
Sounds like we need a different thread for this, although I don’t know how to apply it to the forum theme just yet.

I tought it was just me or ME, but I see more people noticed this - I just wonder how other people do not see this and react, sun changing position is major thing... I guess this will need new thread to discuss in more details.

 

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Username: RecycledSoul
Date: 2019-06-07 18:46:29
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I tought it was just me or ME, but I see more people noticed this - I just wonder how other people do not see this and react, sun changing position is major thing... I guess this will need new thread to discuss in more details.

The sun is definitely not traversing the sky where I had observed it for 49 years of my life. When I get a chance, I will put together a thread, if someone doesn’t beat me to it.

 

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2019-06-17 20:21:28
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Since we were talking about the ME and spelling, here is one I just came across today. Is it a ME in the making?

We bill customers through PayPal invoicing sometimes and I had to cancel an invoice (because he paid by check, if you're wondering). Here is a screen shot


I thought, PayPal of all companies spelled cancelled incorrectly!! My husband said somebody from India probably did the program. It really jumped out at me at first, now rereading it I think it looks sort of right. They are playing with our minds.
Or, It's probably nothing...

Unlike the dilemma, dilemna at least there is something about both ways, even if EVERY English speaking person spells it one way, now the rule says it's the other way, but most mispell it or something. If you read the following slowly, it really makes no sense at all.

Canceled vs. Cancelled- Which is correct? – Grammarist

Canceled vs. cancelled

• Ginger software corrected 98% of people who misused ‘Canceled vs. cancelled’

In American English, the verb cancel is usually inflected canceled and canceling—with one l. This is not a rule, however, and exceptions are easily found. In varieties of English from outside the U.S., including Canadian, British, and Australian English, cancelled and cancelling are the preferred spellings.
The spelling distinction extends to cancelers and cancellers, as well as to cancelable and cancellable, but it does not not extend to cancellation, which everywhere is spelled with two l’s.
Related
Traveled vs. travelled
As the Ngram below shows, American English has only recently adopted the one-l spellings of canceled, canceling, etc., and the change is not fully engrained in the American language. In web searches of American publications covering the last couple of years, cancelled and cancelling still appear about once for every five instances of canceled and canceling. Outside the U.S., meanwhile, the one-l spellings appear only very rarely. This is true even in Canada, which is usually friendlier to American spelling idiosyncrasies than is the rest of the English-speaking world.
This Ngram graphs the use of canceled and cancelled (as a percentage of all words used) in American books, journals, and magazines published from 1800 to 2000:

Similar Ngrams for British books show the one-l forms beginning to gain ground in British English—likely due to the strong American influence on web-only publications from around the world—but the two-l forms still prevail by a large margin.

Definition of CANCEL
cancel
verb
can·cel | \ ˈkan(t)-səl \
canceled or cancelled; canceling or cancelling\ ˈkan(t)-s(ə-)liŋ \
Definition of cancel
(Entry 1 of 2)
transitive verb
1a: to decide not to conduct or perform (something planned or expected) usually without expectation of conducting or performing it at a later timecancel a football game
b: to destroy the force, effectiveness, or validity of : ANNULcancel a magazine subscriptiona canceled check
c: to match in force or effect : OFFSET —often used with outhis irritability canceled out his natural kindness— Osbert Sitwell
d: to bring to nothingness : DESTROY
2: to deface (a postage or revenue stamp) especially with a set of ink lines so as to invalidate for reuse
3a: to remove (a common divisor) from numerator and denominator
b: to remove (equivalents) on opposite sides of an equation or account
4a: to mark or strike out for deletioncancel the offensive passage
b: OMIT, DELETE
intransitive verb
: to neutralize each other's strength or effect : COUNTERBALANCEthe various pressure groups to a large degree canceled out— J. B. Conant

 

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Username: Recognition
Date: 2019-06-17 22:06:19
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I do remember seeing the lines. This Mandela Effect has no basis. Hellow clarice, I’m your father, brand logos changed... it has all been explained.

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Maybe we should just accept that human memories are extremely unreliable? Don’t get me wrong, I’m a full conspiracy theorist. I know the Earth is flat. I know the Nazis were not the evil ones. But this ME is just total nonsense. Whatever ME there could be can be explained with the mass media manipulation of the people (which is real) and companies changing their logos without notification.

This is interesting! What do you think about the teaching of thanksgiving occurring on the third Thursday? Everyone i've talked to remembers learning thanksgiving occurs always on the third thursday of november, but now that apparently has never been the case! So the idea is just that 'they'/gov/ google/ calendar makers are all presenting that this never occurred to mess with our perceptions and trust in our memories? I could see that!

For the person talking about stouffers, i used to love that stuffing! It never existed?