Masonic Poets and the real Shakespeare

[SonofaBor]

I used the Duck Duck Go "search assist" and asked when the first course in Shakespeare was taught at Harvard:

Regarding Cambridge, Chat GPT-- via the search bar-- replied:

A book I once used in a class: The Battleground of the Curriculum - Liberal Education and American Experience

"This book examines the American experience in liberal education and demonstrates that there has been a 'crisis' surrounding the curriculum of the modern U.S. university for the past two centuries. It points out where and how contemporary critics of the curriculum are wrong, historically speaking, and shows how American ideals of 'liberal education' are extraordinarily obscure, the product of many different attitudes and historical intentions." (my emphasis)

It is seems to me that most major, culture-changing projects are committee projects, involve key "family" members (e.g. Billy Shepherd, (self-reported) the 28th grandson of William Wallace or Charles M. Russell, direct descendant of the first Earl of Bedford) and run for decades if not centuries. Of course, see the work of Mile Mathis.

 

[feralimal]

I'm currently going through the excellent research on Anthelme Arvière's Facebook group, Déprogrammation Historique. He often uses Google Ngram to show when certain words or names entered literary circulation. What we see again and again is a spike when a book supposedly appears, followed by a long period in which no reference to the word or name is mentioned, followed by a second appearance after which the curve evolves organically with no more gaps. Arvière argues quite logically that this can be seen as evidence that the works in question were probably written in the second period and a few forgeries were produced and backdated at that time. In other words, they "forgot" to forge the secondary literature that inevitably follows a real literary creation.

Great stuff - that's a really good fakery 'tell'. Thanks.

 

[ViniB]

I used the Duck Duck Go "search assist" and asked when the first course in Shakespeare was taught at Harvard:

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Regarding Cambridge, Chat GPT-- via the search bar-- replied:

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Interesting that it was centuries later from when the originals (if they exist) were written that it became curriculum. That's a repeating pattern for pretty much every major literary work that changed society

It is seems to me that most major, culture-changing projects are committee projects, involve key "family" members (e.g. Billy Shepherd, (self-reported) the 28th grandson of William Wallace or Charles M. Russell, direct descendant of the first Earl of Bedford) and run for decades if not centuries.

To me, shakespeare is a classic psyop, but what i don't understand is the why for it's creation. The jews being mad at the new testament doesn't seem like a strong enough motive for a project this massive and complex.....

 

[Breizh]

The jews being mad at the new testament doesn't seem like a strong enough motive for a project this massive and complex.....

As I highlighted in this post - of all the forums that exist we should ensure appropriate discernment between traditional jews and biological jews. This would prevent miscommunication and misinterpretation (many examples of this in discussions involving jews).

For example, the traditional jews that currently inhabit Israel adopted Judaism (a long time ago) and thus identify as jews (as far as they're concerned, they are the real jews). This contrasts with the biological jews. Generally people overlook this and so by default refer to the more "common" traditional jews. This can cause severe misinterpretation when trying to decipher historical events.

The jews being mad at the new testament...

The misunderstanding of the biological jews also includes the terminology and their holy books. The bible is written for Israelites (so-called jews) so biological "jews" consider the old & new testament as valid and relevant to them. This contrasts with the traditional jews who look up to the torah and do other arguably strange things.

As an aside... the term Christian is somewhat meaningless since it refers to a follower of Christ, who was a jew. You could say that the religion called Christianity is a fabrication that obfuscates many many things.

 

[Frostychud]

The short version: "Shakespeare" was a committee federated around Emilia Bassano, a dark-skinned Italian Jewess living in London. These crypto-Jews and freethinkers knew that the New Testament was anti-Jewish propaganda, the work of a committee of writers around Vespasian, Titus, Domitian, and Flavius Josephus, the goal of which was to substitute a fake, Rome-compliant pacifist messiah for the real warrior Jewish Messiah, Eleazar, who was killed in the sack of Jerusalem. Atwill is not a chronological revisionist, so he thinks these events were separated by 1500 years, which is quite hard to swallow. But if we assume that the fall of "Jerusalem" occurred shortly before the works of "Shakespeare" were written, it makes much more sense. Atwill thinks that Shakespeare's plays were conceived as a "counter-Bible".

I just realized something funny.

England has given us exactly one Pope. Can you guess his name?

Nicholas Breakspear!

He was Pope in the 12th century.

Here's a scan of one of his bulls, from 1156.

https://iiif.bl.uk/uv/#?manifest=https://bl.digirati.io/iiif/ark:/81055/vdc_100181356220.0x000001

Looks cool. Looks convincing. A trained scribe could forge this in a day.

It just says Adrianus IIII.

How do we know Adrianus IIII = Breakspear?

Because of one guy - Matthew of Paris.

There's a date in Roman numerals at the bottom.

Is it possible that the bull was real, that there really was an Adrian IIII, but the document was recopied later and a fake date added? Is it possible that there were multiple "PP's" operating concurrently? How fake is this document?

The name Breakspear is a pretty hard coincidence to swallow.

I think the Church knew Shakespeare was an anti-Catholic project and fabricated and backdated the "Breakspear" character (as in, he breaks the spear of revolt being shaken at the church) as a winking response.

There is a dearth of information—and especially dates—for Breakspear's life until his election as pope, and "all that can be said is that the dates commonly given are in every instance wrong".