SH Archive Mud Flood in Kansas City: pre-1870

[KD Archive]

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-10-04 17:13:17
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As for the carriages, they were very expensive. Older used ones would have been given a lick of paint and leather and reused, just like a nice old Rolls Royce today.

Is this a personal hypothesis, or there is a written source from the mid 19th century?

 

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Username: Banta
Date: 2019-10-04 17:35:54
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Something fishy is going on here in KS, especially given the tunnels. I suspect this is a far older city than we are taught.

Or, like most cities, it's at least built on the foundation of something far older.

I can get myself going in circles on "mudflood" and what it even means, but ultimately, I think it's a convenient catch-all for a much larger topic (like Tartaria). The process/mechanism in place might have varied, even within the same geographic location. You don't need to have buildings completely buried in a mountain to count as "mudflooded" and for the reasons JD notes, it seems very implausible that many buildings could have survived any known (or even unknown processes) simply because of the building's composition and construction. Even in these pictures, if they are digging out buildings, no one says that the buildings had to be functional afterwards... or maybe they were structurally compromised so that they only lasted a little while after being reclaimed? That would make some degree of sense, explaining why some majestic buildings were demolished in a relatively short amount of time.

I consider the possibility too that some buildings were built to purposely survive the cataclysms and there may be additional, unidentified bonding elements in the older stone structures. Like gluing your LEGOs together.

 

[KD Archive]

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-10-04 18:01:10
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Whatever photographic evidence (pertaining to the same topic) we have left, should probably be viewed through a prism of the totality of circumstances and similarities related to the topic at hand.

Here is Seattle, for example.

And I think this here is my favorite photograph related to the issue. These are the "ruins" of the Novoaleksandrovsky Fort (possibly). Allegedly built in the 19th century. What exactly happened here?

• Google Maps link to the Star Fort
• Blurred Star Fortress

All this stuff is related, I believe.

 

[Wildfire2000]

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Username: WildFire2000
Date: 2019-10-04 20:29:52
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I agree, KD. There's too much going on in too many places all around the same time frame with things that don't match the narrative for us to ignore it all as another user is basically suggesting.

 

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Username: jd755
Date: 2019-10-05 08:18:18
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Any record of any kind from anyone connected to the digging out in any way in any form. Is that too much too ask?

Is the suggestion that the loess at Kansas City and that land in that google image are created in the same event or by the same unexplained cause?

From here;

Seems at least one of the houses hung around atop the cut for a fair while.

I was wondering in this Kansas city and indeed other regradings, which seem to me on an admittedly cursory look, unique to the land of America what happens to the ownership of the land when it is regraded?
For instance say you have permission from the state/government whatever in paper form as a title deed and along comes the giver of permission and takes the land you thought your deed applied to away. Actually physically removes it.
Are you then left with a deed for fresh air and no home or do you retain the title to a particular depth so you can build on or sell the newly exposed land.

 

[BStankman]

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Username: BStankman
Date: 2019-10-05 09:39:57
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All of these buried buildings and cities begs the question: how were they buried in an ocean of mud/dirt and NOT destroyed in the process?

We have precedent from less than 100 years ago here.



Unfortunately for us, public education has failed us terribly, to the true nature of the events and its frequency.

Frankly, I feel insulted that historians would imply my ancestors built wooden doors, window frames and ornamental details in their foundations and then purposely buried them.

Anomalous Soil Accumulation (Large album)

 

[JWW427]

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Username: JWW427
Date: 2019-10-05 14:29:13
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KD
In reply to the carriage issue:
Fine carriages that were enclosed with glass were fairly expensive to hugely expensive.
Coachbuilders went on to do the bodywork for cars. Im a pretty damn good expert on old cars.
Some of the most expensive carriages were the funeral ones.
Below is a "Brougham." This is where we get Cadillac Brougham from.
Car coachbuilders such as Fleetwood, Hooper, Park Ward, etc. All started with coaches.
JWW

COACH-MAKING

¶The earliest coaches were of necessity heavy and clumsy in their design, as the terrible condition of even the most frequented highways of the City prohibited the use of lighter vehicles. For this reasons the Thames was for many centuries London's great highway, and the waterman down to the beginning of the 19th century was the serious competitor of the coach and fly-man. The London coach-building trade took up its quarters from an early period principally in the western part of the City. When once introduced the trade grew apace, as it soon became the correct thing for people of fashion to have their own coach. The art of coach-building gave great scope for talent, ingenuity, and taste in devising a safe, comfortable, shapely, and artistically decorated conveyance. For the decoration of the panels the services of artists of the highest rank were engaged. Smirke, the Royal Academician, served his time to Bromley the heraldic carriage painter of Lincoln's Inn Fields. Monamy, the marine painter of the latter part of the 18th century, painted the carriage of the ill-fated Admiral Byng; and Charles Cotton, R.A., decorated coaches with armorial bearings.

 

[Archive]

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Username: Aply1985
Date: 2019-10-05 19:51:12
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Care to elaborate?

Will do later, when will have time to gather puzzle together

 

[KD Archive]

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Username: KorbenDallas
Date: 2019-10-05 20:03:08
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Fine carriages that were enclosed with glass were fairly expensive to hugely expensive.

Unless you grab one at a local museum.

 

[Wildfire2000]

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Username: WildFire2000
Date: 2019-10-17 20:54:57
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Liquefaction during an earthquake.

If this were done more as a weapon, it might not be as severe. Hard to say.