SH Archive Not Mud-flood But Dust Storms

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I think the term mud flood is restricting our ability to see the reality of this hidden, recent cataclysm.

The idea of a mud flood just does not fit with what we actually observe.

Flowing mud of a catastrophic kind would devastate any structure in its path not simply bury them.

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What we actually see seems more reminiscent of dust storms followed by torrential rains. So in a major way mud is involved but it is not the catalyst.

So when did we have massive dust storms? The so called dirty thirties. Some-how the intelligencia has spun a story about bad agricultural practices which never made much sense to me. It would seem that these storms were by no means localized in America but were wide spread across the planet and ultimately most devastating in the regions occupied by the Red army. This is weather warfare at its finest.

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At last – as if sin had been manifest in land-use practices – came the dry years, the failure of mountain snows, rain vanished from the prairies, and winds that once pollinated the most productive grasslands in the world began to blow steadily across these plowed plains. "The wind, Oh, the wind, the wind." (Lizzie White, p. 179.) Finally in 1933, the harbinger gales descended on these nesters whose "Fields were bare, scraped to hardpan in places, heaving in others. The skies carried soil from state to state." As if nature insulted by human ignorance drew back to lunge at these intruders, "With no appreciable rain for two years, even deep wells were grasping to draw from the underground reservoir. One late winter day in 1933, . . . at mid-day the Sun disappeared." Farmers on the high plains witnessed "clouds" that "dumped layers of dust, one wave after another . . . ." on these unsuspecting settlers who "had to shovel furiously to avoid being swallowed by the enraged prairie." This arid landscape deprived of water did the strangest thing by arising into the heavens and choking the life out of the very lungs of the settlers who had so long feasted, fattened, and fostered farmsteads on these precarious plains.

Egan, p. 136.​

"The eeriest thing was the darkness"
"There'd be days you couldn't see a hand in front a' your face."

So where did the One hundred million acres of fertile top soil disappear?

Here we see railroads in the Siberian region, being unburied post cataclysm. A flowing wall of mud would not have left train tracks intact.

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Minsk

Yerevan, Armenia

Irkutsk

Volgograd At the beginning of the 20th century

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Unburying Moscow supposedly in 1890 ( many Russian alternative history researchers operate under the understanding that the intelligencia sent
Russian history back at least 13 years) and we have already established that the dates ascribed to old photographs are largely arbitrary and even political.

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Here we have mussolini's excavation of rome 1938 - 1942... maybe it was buried just around 2 decades earlier?

I mean this brick work hardly looks old at all...


I will share below some other images that I have not seen make the rounds

Konigsberg castle

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Reichstag

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Post war agriculture in Germany, where do we think these piles of fertile soil came from? Mid western America mayhap?

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Attachment: The great Dust Fall 1902-03, courtesy of @wizz33

Note: This OP was recovered from the Maxine archive.

Note: Archived Sh.org replies to this OP: Not Mud-flood But Dust Storms

 

[Akanah]

I think it was a combination of a plasma-storm, radio emission and a flood-based electrolysis. The Plasma-storm burned africa and australia. Radio emission made triangle-structures or starfort-structures. And the electrolysis made hills/mountains, seas and rivers throught the merging of oxygen with hydrogen. Through electrolyse cities could sink in seas or oceans. All these things are hints of a hypernova-explosion (naturally or artifical triggered).

 

[Akanah]

interesting. my only reference for electrolysis is steel boats and stray current. can you explain a little more?

Okey, you take a container full of sand or earthground. In your athmosphere there is much oxygen. Then there is a plasma-event and the oxygen merged together with hydrogenplasma into water. The water is throught the plasma-event penetreted by electric current so the sand or earth will be divided along the electric current. The sand or earth will pressed to the edge of the electric current and will become hard rock. In the middle of the electric current the sand or earth disappeared and leaves water. The water could vaporized complety or leaving a little river or a big sea.
If houses were in the middle of the electric current they will be fossilized and sunk on the ground of the canyon. Electrolyse throught a plasmaevent could explain the structures of lichtenberg-figures all around the earth from rivers or hills.
In addition: In Africa there was the water quickly vaporized and this is the reason the plasma had formed these strange circles like the "Guelb er Richat" like at the plasma welding. On the center of this circles could made bullets of iron, magnetit or pyrit. If there was made a bullet of magnetit or pyrit this bullet maybe could lifted from earth and levitate throught the earths magnetic field. If the earths magnetic field will be very weak these bullets can crash with the earths ground. I mention this because I think some stars could be such bullets.

 

[Razor2299]

It looks like some big sand storm hit Berlin in April of 1945...

 

[Mortal]

How I see it today:

(also a nice game to teach kids)

Take a big glass bowl. Is that empty? Yes.
Take big rocks and fill the bowl. Is it full? Depends because smaller rocks can fit between the bigger ones.
Put smaller rocks between the bigger. Is it full? Depends because sand can fit between the smaller rocks.
Put sand in between the smaller rocks till the top. Is it full? Depends because water can soak the sand.
Put water in the bowl until the top gets muddy (!). Now it is full.

So my best guess is that there were vibrations, sand mixed with water and spread over the land.

 

[everybyte]

Clay and sand that later became mud could have come from cosmos.
Earth regularly comes across meteor belts.

 

[Ameth]

I think you take this a step further than the original statement. You can't say, We are limiting our viewpoint don't think of it as mud think of it as sand instead.
That's just replacing one partial truth with another, think of it as mud, as sand, as gravel and as boulders and you have the fullness of the Wentworth scale. which is the scale used to determine these things.
then you ask how does this adjustment between these four levels change?
The answer is erosion and or weathering effect. making such a determination, next you consider what is causing such an extreme form of weather and enabling erosion to this degree? Effects experienced over such a large scale of area. As large as the place we call earth, and as widely variable as the effects that are seen. From the sands and silts of the sea bed, to the boulders of mountain regions at the highest peaks of earth and the variance seen between.
the answer is simply a flood of relative size to the earth. an extended period of time for that floods tidal movements to effect the boulders gravel sands and muds into these relative states.
That this event has a cyclical nature is evident in its repetition throughout recorded history and the effect it has had on submerged structures. That it is diminishing in returns is evident from its effect upon the place we call earth as the mud and lesser floods we see.
Less water is being presented to this area with each transitional experience of it.
That this event is the product of another is also highly suggested.
Water does not flood on its own, Causation is required.
Solid Sky Theory in my opinion is that cause.
cheers.

 

[Quiahuitl]

Dust storms explain a lot, in my opinion. Dust that then turns to mud after rain.

1) explains why buildings remain intact. The dust settles slowly over time.

2) Explains why buildings are buried up to the first floor in some places but not others - because the dust did not settle evenly everywhere. The UK has strong prevailing winds, for example, so we don't seem to have many mudflooded buildings here that I'm aware of.

3) the dust was created by some kind of weapon system. There is evidence that a lot of cities were destroyed by something that left mile wide craters. That would have kicked up a lot of dust. Jon Levi argues that a lot of cities in North america were destroyed in the mid 1700s. Tartaria was destroyed in 1816. There may have been other destruction before that.

 

[StarlightNavigator]

Dust storms explain a lot, in my opinion. Dust that then turns to mud after rain.

1) explains why buildings remain intact. The dust settles slowly over time.

2) Explains why buildings are buried up to the first floor in some places but not others - because the dust did not settle evenly everywhere. The UK has strong prevailing winds, for example, so we don't seem to have many mudflooded buildings here that I'm aware of.

3) the dust was created by some kind of weapon system. There is evidence that a lot of cities were destroyed by something that left mile wide craters. That would have kicked up a lot of dust. Jon Levi argues that a lot of cities in North america were destroyed in the mid 1700s. Tartaria was destroyed in 1816. There may have been other destruction before that.

A dust storm explains it well except it does not explain why there are no trees or bushes in most of the mud flood photographs.

 

[everybyte]

10 to 15 meters of clay is not unusual for mud flood buildings, does not seem like dust storm could achieve this.

 

[Artemisian]

The UK has strong prevailing winds, for example, so we don't seem to have many mudflooded buildings here that I'm aware of.

We’ve got HUNDREDS of mud-flood candidate buildings in England!! The whole of the south is covered with basements of varying depths with windows and doors (sometimes bricked up). Maybe it’s different further north, but there are loads down south. Below a couple of examples in Reading, Berkshire. Every stately home round here looks half-buried!

 

[Ameth]

We’ve got HUNDREDS of mud-flood candidate buildings in England!! The whole of the south is covered with basements of varying depths with windows and doors (sometimes bricked up). Maybe it’s different further north, but there are loads down south. Below a couple of examples in Reading, Berkshire. Every stately home round here looks half-buried!

ST. AUSTELL, CORNWALL just a round trip from the train station down the road and back around to the train station again.

This quick circuit in St. Austell shows just a handful of the many examples of mud flooded buildings in that town. There's many more.
You can clearly see the adjustments made to gain access to most buildings and or the blocking up of lowers which fell below the road level.
This indicates Solid Sky Theory to me.
Dust as a storm or even as a burying commodity, could not produce the results as seen.
Only a solid sky vertically applying force could displace these buildings down into the ground gradually over time, which is only achievable under solar absent conditioning.
For these buildings to perform this feat without large scale destruction they would also out of necessity need to be contained completely on all sides, leaving only the ground and area beneath the structure for the structure to displace into. The only elements capable of achieving this requirement would be a large volume of water or a great volume of air. Given the lack of evidence to suggest flooding took place in St Austell, especially in this higher area of the town. Logic dictates the airs gaseous elements in solid state form are the most likely culprit for the effects seen. St. Austell is not an isolated case, almost all the towns of Cornwall have the exact same presenting structures, all examples of the same architecture and the same overwhelming indications of downwardly applied force.
I also would be interested if anyone from the north has some examples to share, because the south and Cornwall in particular clearly has an abundance of them.
Cheers.

 

[fabiorem]

10 to 15 meters of clay is not unusual for mud flood buildings, does not seem like dust storm could achieve this.

Looks like this photo was manipulated. The floor was copy-pasted to the one below it. And there is a brush in the left side.

 

[Jd755]

Looks like this photo was manipulated. The floor was copy-pasted to the one below it. And there is a brush in the left side.

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I noticed that as soon as it was posted but extremely glad you went to the trouble of pointing it out.

 

[Dan in Phoenix]

So many varied comments. It explains a lot, especially with the entire earth having been mined. I believe it happened. It doesn't explain No Forests On Flat Earth, scorched and melted buildings, etc. A bit of everything, is what it is. The catalyst? I think Brian Lambert (RIP) had it closest but it doesn't lend itself to easy explanation but in it's essence the sun goes off course, to the south or to the north, resulting in a plasma catastrophe including weightlessness. Consider weightlessness. How much soil would head for the hole in the sky and when it drops back down, what would happen? In my constant looking and thinking I see that this could explain everything. With that event, you get scorching, floods, earthquakes, the dropping of an ice sheet beneath the dome, you name it, you get it. Entities travel within plasma, and are recorded on the cave walls. The missing people? They were sucked up through the opening ing the dome known as Polaris.

And there has been war, and we, our civilization, lost.

If you don't see the flat earth, I can only POLITELY say you are wrong, from the very beginning of your reasoning, and that blindness, now self-inflicted, will keep you from the truth. It has to be overcome in order for you to even begin your search.

 

[lonelytylenol]

At last – as if sin had been manifest in land-use practices – came the dry years, the failure of mountain snows, rain vanished from the prairies, and winds that once pollinated the most productive grasslands in the world began to blow steadily across these plowed plains. "The wind, Oh, the wind, the wind." (Lizzie White, p. 179.) Finally in 1933, the harbinger gales descended on these nesters whose "Fields were bare, scraped to hardpan in places, heaving in others. The skies carried soil from state to state." As if nature insulted by human ignorance drew back to lunge at these intruders, "With no appreciable rain for two years, even deep wells were grasping to draw from the underground reservoir. One late winter day in 1933, . . . at mid-day the Sun disappeared." Farmers on the high plains witnessed "clouds" that "dumped layers of dust, one wave after another . . . ." on these unsuspecting settlers who "had to shovel furiously to avoid being swallowed by the enraged prairie." This arid landscape deprived of water did the strangest thing by arising into the heavens and choking the life out of the very lungs of the settlers who had so long feasted, fattened, and fostered farmsteads on these precarious plains.

My grandparents and great-grandparents survived the Dust Bowl in Kansas and Oklahoma. While it's possible for all that crop dirt to travel far (like across the ocean), a lot of the dust was so small-grained that it went through homes and buildings. Here's an interesting video from that time:



The dirty dishes and the little boy drawing on the table aligns with the accounts I grew up hearing -- everything was covered in dust inside the house and outside, no matter what people would try to do to stop it. I just don't know if dust + rain can fully bury buildings to the level that we've seen in some of the other Mudflood posts (this is a great, classic one), especially if a lot of the dust could go through doors, windows, etc. unless it was decades worth of drought and rains. Perhaps there was a cataclysmic event in the 1800s that was even more extreme than the Dust Bowl?