SH Archive Polish "Asstronaut" Admits Earth is Flat

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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-02-26 15:00:47
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Gravity is a process of inducted energies which create micro-magnetism in matter, also known as incoherent magnetism:

Right. Please pay attention dielectric.
I am not layng a trap for you, tricking you, suggesting anything.
I am stating a frame of reference and then asking you a question.

The frame of reference for me is a practical demonstration found in everyday lived life.
If you agree that that is a frame of reference you can work with then please answer the following question in as many words as it takes.
If you don't like the frame of reference or you have an amendment or addition that I can agree on then we can proceed.

The question is what practical demonstration did you do to prove to yourself that gravity is as you say it is?
if of course you prefer not to answer that or have not done a practical demonstration then please ignore me. And apologies if you have already posted this your posts are rather long (says he who is no stranger to writing long posts) and I may well have missed it.

Reason for asking is that I can find no practical demonstration of it anywhere in everyday lived life despite years of looking.
Thankyou and apologies to searching for wandering off a tad.

 

[Dielectric]

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Username: Dielectric
Date: 2020-02-27 00:05:55
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Right. Please pay attention dielectric.
I am not layng a trap for you, tricking you, suggesting anything.
I am stating a frame of reference and then asking you a question.

The frame of reference for me is a practical demonstration found in everyday lived life.
If you agree that that is a frame of reference you can work with then please answer the following question in as many words as it takes.
If you don't like the frame of reference or you have an amendment or addition that I can agree on then we can proceed.

The question is what practical demonstration did you do to prove to yourself that gravity is as you say it is?
if of course you prefer not to answer that or have not done a practical demonstration then please ignore me. And apologies if you have already posted this your posts are rather long (says he who is no stranger to writing long posts) and I may well have missed it.

Reason for asking is that I can find no practical demonstration of it anywhere in everyday lived life despite years of looking.
Thankyou and apologies to searching for wandering off a tad.

Really the post I made was a reply to "Searching."

Nevertheless;
The simple and general truth is that matter has magnetism: Virtually all matter has a magnetic field. What we call gravity is magnetism in matter: Virtually all matter, even diamagnetic matter, has a magnetic field. That's the simplified and basic truth to gravity.

Gravity is associated with mass generally and inaccurately, but nevertheless staying with that fundamental Einsteinian idea; as matter accumulates a cumulative progression of the strength of the combined magnetic fields of independent bodies/particles of matter progresses. At some point in accumulation a threshold is crossed, and at some point on this progression the accumulative scales of combined magnetic materials forms a coherent magnetic field, and after which a so-called gravitational field results and which has a coherent magnetic field.

The natural form of matter is to form a clump because it is magnetic. If you doubt that then take a hammer and smash up a magnet. That is a primitive but effective means to demonstrate the correlation of particles of matter forming a clump. Gravity is magnetism and magnetism is a product of inducted energies. This is not a complex thing, it just takes a lot of barfing to explain it, and this is about as simply as I can explain it without becoming too simplified.

Added the following;
Flat, round, or hollow are all fun things to digest, but ultimately there's a reason for these meme's being injected in the public forum.

Science abandoned rationality when it became the province of organized education, and it was that system which embraced Einstein. It did not embrace Tesla, it did not give credit to Steinmetz, and didn't do justice to most all the great pioneers. Now what's that tell you: That it's a criminally operated system? Absolutely, but then the origins of organized education come from organized religion so there's a long underground history to the cultivation and control over thought. Organized religion functioned as the voice of God until changing perceptions produced by technology and other factors necessitated a revised plan. So today those old claimed provinces of the church now are in the hands of officially approved science.

To explain a flat plate planet or a bowl requires a different explanation for gravity, a different one than the one I gave, and so is there one? Why yes there is, and because of it ideas about actually terraforming planetary bodies in to flat plates have been proposed. Most of this stuff is now buried in science fiction history but as a kid ideas about macro~engineering planets into flat plates and ring worlds were not uncommon.

The lunatics at Space.com have here a newer revised edition of how to wreck a planet to build paradise. I refer you now to nuclear power as another one of their proposed cure all potions.
Incredible Technology: How to Use 'Shells' to Terraform a Planet
Shell-Worlds: How Humanity Could Terraform Small Planets (Infographic)

 

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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-02-27 08:54:16
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The simple and general truth is that matter has magnetism: Virtually all matter has a magnetic field. What we call gravity is magnetism in matter: Virtually all matter, even diamagnetic matter, has a magnetic field. That's the simplified and basic truth to gravity. Gravity is associated with mass generally and inaccurately, but nevertheless staying with that fundamental Einsteinian idea; as matter accumulates a cumulative progression of the strength of the combined magnetic fields of independent bodies/particles of matter progresses. At some point in accumulation a threshold is crossed, and at some point on this progression the accumulative scales of combined magnetic materials forms a coherent magnetic field, and after which a so-called gravitational field results and which has a coherent magnetic field. The natural form of matter is to form a clump because it is magnetic. If you doubt that then take a hammer and smash up a magnet. That is a primitive but effective means to demonstrate the correlation of particles of matter forming a clump. Gravity is magnetism and magnetism is a product of inducted energies. This is not a complex thing, it just takes a lot of barfing to explain it, and this is about as simply as I can explain it without becoming too simplified.

Thankyou.
Your response is appreciated and I won't be bothering you further.
Thankyou also searching for your indulgence.

 

[Dielectric]

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Username: Dielectric
Date: 2020-02-27 09:32:21
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There is an incalculable amount of space junk many countries have contributed to, as independents or collectively, much of what goes up is also nowadays meant to return and aside that, they all use transmittable data and storage on board. It doesn't bother me what earth shape my only hesitation has been education system correction of new truths if it is flat. The longer they leave a lie hanging the more stupid they look. Are we to believe we go to Mars etc and are still unable to get a snap shot of earth as it rotates. Maybe we should simply sponsor Samsung on its next phone release to make a mission up there, small change $ for changing the world view. Maybe North Korea will soon spill the beans, supply evidence and have the greatest laugh. The trip wires to truth and determining matters of distraction is usually complex, flat versus round earth must be a distraction I conclude. I await the face saving cra-pola to come.

Yea, well Carl Sagan had to fight to get the only space craft that's ever left the embryo of our solar system to turn around to take one stupid image. Imagine that, the head of the Voyager Space Probe had to argue to get NASA's approval to turn the ship around so that it could take a photo of our solar system. Sagan recounting this story said there were people in the program that resisted this and didn't want the ship turned around saying it was a waste of energy.

I've dealt with some of these genius egg brained A-holes that Sagan was dealing with and believe me you want to clock them about half the time. If you think this is bad try talking to a PHD In Physics about gravity. Tell them gravity is magnetism and they are going to say you're retarded. Yet they cannot explain a UFO without resorting to planetary scale power systems. So all UFO's have power systems of planetary scales? A highly dubious proposition don't ya think? So ya know I hear ya but it doesn't surprise me. It honestly just doesn't.
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Thankyou.
Your response is appreciated and I won't be bothering you further.
Thankyou also searching for your indulgence.

Jd755, I find you a prickly and testy individual but you and the rest of the people on SH are among the most questioning and intelligent out there. For this reason you're all targets and the system will try to use your own questioning intellect against you to make you appear fools. Whether the earth is round or not the consensus of our age is that it is round.

You cannot talk about gravity with a PHD in Physics unless you begin with some convoluted notions arising out of Quantum Theory because that's all they have been educated about and in their brainwashed zombified state anything to the contrary is pseudo science. Yet again, ask one how a UFO works or what it would take to make one work and see their own explanations have about as much realistic and rational thought as one might get from a baboon.

Rightly or wrongly, what I'm trying to do is to show there is a rational explanation which is based on the physics of Tesla and Steinmetz and others whom brought us the modern age. Their idea's essentially argue against either a flat or bowl shaped planet. At least in my opinion.

 

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Username: Raven
Date: 2020-02-27 15:16:22
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Really the post I made was a reply to "Searching."

Nevertheless;
The simple and general truth is that matter has magnetism: Virtually all matter has a magnetic field. What we call gravity is magnetism in matter: Virtually all matter, even diamagnetic matter, has a magnetic field. That's the simplified and basic truth to gravity.

Gravity is associated with mass generally and inaccurately, but nevertheless staying with that fundamental Einsteinian idea; as matter accumulates a cumulative progression of the strength of the combined magnetic fields of independent bodies/particles of matter progresses. At some point in accumulation a threshold is crossed, and at some point on this progression the accumulative scales of combined magnetic materials forms a coherent magnetic field, and after which a so-called gravitational field results and which has a coherent magnetic field.

The natural form of matter is to form a clump because it is magnetic. If you doubt that then take a hammer and smash up a magnet. That is a primitive but effective means to demonstrate the correlation of particles of matter forming a clump. Gravity is magnetism and magnetism is a product of inducted energies. This is not a complex thing, it just takes a lot of barfing to explain it, and this is about as simply as I can explain it without becoming too simplified.

Added the following;
Flat, round, or hollow are all fun things to digest, but ultimately there's a reason for these meme's being injected in the public forum.

Science abandoned rationality when it became the province of organized education, and it was that system which embraced Einstein. It did not embrace Tesla, it did not give credit to Steinmetz, and didn't do justice to most all the great pioneers. Now what's that tell you: That it's a criminally operated system? Absolutely, but then the origins of organized education come from organized religion so there's a long underground history to the cultivation and control over thought. Organized religion functioned as the voice of God until changing perceptions produced by technology and other factors necessitated a revised plan. So today those old claimed provinces of the church now are in the hands of officially approved science.

To explain a flat plate planet or a bowl requires a different explanation for gravity, a different one than the one I gave, and so is there one? Why yes there is, and because of it ideas about actually terraforming planetary bodies in to flat plates have been proposed. Most of this stuff is now buried in science fiction history but as a kid ideas about macro~engineering planets into flat plates and ring worlds were not uncommon.

The lunatics at Space.com have here a newer revised edition of how to wreck a planet to build paradise. I refer you now to nuclear power as another one of their proposed cure all potions.
Incredible Technology: How to Use 'Shells' to Terraform a Planet
Shell-Worlds: How Humanity Could Terraform Small Planets (Infographic)

Thank you so much. I've been trying (and failing) to explain this to people for years but could never get it down succinctly as you did here. Bless you for this. This has to be the best forum group on the globe/plane/spinning ball in non-space... Cheers.

 

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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-02-27 20:27:25
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Jd755, I find you a prickly and testy individual but you and the rest of the people on SH are among the most questioning and intelligent out there. For this reason you're all targets and the system will try to use your own questioning intellect against you to make you appear fools.

Thankyou for your concern.
It is duly noted. I'm not here to be all things to all men, you may have noticed, I no longer know why I'm here to be perfectly honest. Apperances are held in the eyes of others makes no difference to me what appears there as I can only see things through my eyes.
Never been one to take any notice of consensus. If the crowd is running one way i walk in another direction, always have since childhood.
As I said I will not bother you with questions again. Your reply was perfectly clear.

 

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Date: 2020-02-28 00:43:08
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Thankyou for your concern.
It is duly noted. I'm not here to be all things to all men, you may have noticed, I no longer know why I'm here to be perfectly honest. Apperances are held in the eyes of others makes no difference to me what appears there as I can only see things through my eyes.
Never been one to take any notice of consensus. If the crowd is running one way i walk in another direction, always have since childhood.
As I said I will not bother you with questions again. Your reply was perfectly clear.

I don't like to read that @jd755. There's always a reason to be here if you ever need to chat PM me.

@Dielectric

Can you help guide me towards where your understanding of this material leads you to be certain the Earth is a globe? Maybe you can help me understand? Do you believe the earth is stationary? What is at the center of the Earth if it is a globe? (molten iron? counterspace? a sun?) Can you point me towards your model of the Universe?

I would greatly appreciate any response!

 

[Bunnyman]

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Date: 2020-02-28 05:49:03
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I no longer know why I'm here to be perfectly honest

@jd755: Well.. you are. And may I add sometimes loud and clear. So, I am sure that if you would stare at your words above, you would experience altered perception.

 

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Date: 2020-02-28 08:03:40
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2 facts for you. 1)There is NO curvature. 2)There is NO movement. Yet it is ball. Sure. Stop being delusional.

 

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Date: 2020-02-28 08:19:09
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There's always a reason to be here if you ever need to chat PM me.

Well.. you are. And may I add sometimes loud and clear

Chaps thank you I am touched, truly.
What I did there was attempt a cut down on my obvious verbosity as it would have detracted from my reply to dielectrics concern.
By 'here' I mean the whole nine yards. I along with everyone else, as far as I can tell have no clue about where I are, why I am, what the physical dimensions of here are, or if there are any, what;s above my heads beneath my feet., why do I breath water vapour but drown in liquid water
Collectively and individually we are bewildered but won't accept it.
We are actively prevented by commercial slavery from exploring the physical realm findng its limits, if it has lmits, removing that bewilderment from us.
Here is everyday lived life which is why I used the words in the question I posed above. The tangible world, the physical world, the sensory world the thing that I live within without everyday.

 

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2 facts for you. 1)There is NO curvature. 2)There is NO movement. Yet it is ball. Sure. Stop being delusional.

You can't see it doesn't mean it is not there. Perception does not equal fact.
Cyanide gas and carbon monoxide are not lethal poisons, because you can't see them.

 

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Username: Furlock
Date: 2020-02-28 08:40:42
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Shape... I mean it was really interesting to see how that Flat Earth thing evolved. On one hand, immediately occupied by all kind of weird people, hanging around for hours and hours on live streams and mixing FE theory with all other kind of crazy stuff, then this guy who proclaimed himself the King of Flat Earthers, later debunked due to clear strings to governamental forces and intelligence services (Dubai or Dubay, but I didn't buy), then the fights between those people splitting into even more disgusting groups and full of stuff that would and did break any serious approach and - more important - was enough to stop people from thinking out of the box.

I personally think that the land we have been allowed to explore is obviously completely flat (water level/sea level evidence). They just let a part, a tiny part of the truth slip out... and then used it against all other researchers. An interesting example could be Peter&Pete on youtube, who have succesfully destroyed a huge amount of scientific scams, theories and so on... but are catalogued as flattards, apart from having their channel seriously slowed down by the AI. Good channels have been directly deleted (Sharpwitted, FlatFact... and so many others), Aaron Dover was killed and his channel deleted... and always when people started to use the energy of realizing that the globe theory has serious flaws to get into looking at all around to find ... goodies.

Again, just bent over, look through your legs, and watch people walk. Immediately you find out HOW FAR we are manipulated to see what they want us to see, when reality is completely different.

Space makes no sense. That's a good starting point. The only sense it makes, is to make us small, insignificant. This again points directly to those who are the wannabee cream-de-la-créme... so the pseudo-existence of space is very useful for them, to be used against "slaves", who start to think that they may have much more skills, powers and rights.

Have a nice day, all.

Miguel

 

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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-02-28 11:20:14
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And this is my feeling on the issue not that it is of any relevance to anythng, just sharing.
Earth is demonstrably (observation and behaviour of water) not flat.
Earth is demonstably (behaviour of water) not curved.
Earth is demonstrably (via our senses ) not spinning.
Contained water is level at its surface its interface with air.
Every measure of height and depth applied to tangible natural objects takes sea level as the base line for the measure.
Nobody knows what shape it has nor if it has a definite shape.

 

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Username: Raven
Date: 2020-02-28 12:29:18
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I no longer know why I'm here to be perfectly honest.

You are here to uncover the truth. If that is not enough of a purpose for you, forge a relationship with the earth herself. She is a being who has taken the form of a planet and she loves all of us deeply and unconditionally. Go outside, take off your shoes and ask to speak with her. When you feel a breeze that is a different temperature than the ambient air, that is her voice. Then you will know why you are here.

 

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You are here to uncover the truth. If that is not enough of a purpose for you, forge a relationship with the earth herself.

I am unable to form a definition of purpose that makes any sense to me.
As for truth we cannot become whart we already are. Truth is experiential.

 

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Date: 2020-02-28 13:13:02
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I am unable to form a definition of purpose that makes any sense to me.

You're not listening... ask the earth to help you. You can speak to her if you can put aside your prodigious intellect and protective hubris for a moment and open your heart/mind. She's pretty smart. Give her a chance and you might learn something you cannot learn anywhere else but from her directly. It won't hurt a bit, I promise.

 

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Date: 2020-02-28 16:14:18
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Call me old fashioned, and must add I am indebted to contributors of this thread to reawaken my thinking which has been on a less than good scholarly background, a fact.
I reduce a long list of persuasive formations in my conclusions (at this moment) regarding flat vs round to Eratosthenes who surely faced similar arguments in his time changing a whole new platform of understanding.
I'll cut it short, and I am a romantic, Copernicus, Galileo Maxwell, Faraday, Hertz and Tesla provide me the ingredients of the spherical realm, electromagetics and tone. So many heroic mathematicians and specialities on this basis of work injected their organic growth to that account over millennia and include Einstein each enjoying their developing mathematics as a result albeit their focus elsewhere. Personally im attached to these greats because they provide calculative and demonstrative successes in both discovery and invention, they found no cause to reinvent the wheel.
So when it comes down to it astrophysics and my perception of Quantum, all of it beyond me, still I am not learning any new persuasives. However my science is in mainstream by way of apology to thread contributors who are admirelingly going beyond.
It is not my intent to incite the old arguments that would have gone on in the past, its my simple curiosity and wonderment of what's new and could drive new avenues for Truth.
Until such a time, I conclude the earth is a sphere and whilst flat earth arguments is tempting there are seemingly too many positives for the calculative results on a sphere realm. Can flat earth recalculate everything the sphere result has accomplished.?
I'm thinking flat earth is a deliberate distraction, perhaps the New Space Program will amaze us with findings (cough choke) of new stuff, perhaps exonerating past mistakes of moonlandings AND clarifying this resurrected debate, wouldn't that be great again.
To ground myself from this I recall in my career, traveling all continents approx and 60% of key capital cities, it struck me amusingly most offices had a map of the world, most depicted their country at the center, unlike the classic portrayal as in say the UN Logo. All things are relative hahaha.

2 facts for you. 1)There is NO curvature. 2)There is NO movement. Yet it is ball. Sure. Stop being delusional.

I'm not clear on how you may have reached those facts are you able to elaborate? Thanks

For me the earth is flat. The curvature tests, the space agency fraud, the lack of proof that the earth moves (search for Airy's Deception) among other facts lead me to believe in a slowly expanding and sometimes catastrophic Flat Earth (in resets). Of course, "science" will do everything to prevent the truth from appearing, if it turns out that the Earth is Flat, "science" collapses.

I would more eagerly agree with you if you might agree with me to correct statement to 'manipulated science'. That's more true for me. Thanks

 

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I am unable to form a definition of purpose that makes any sense to me.
As for truth we cannot become whart we already are. Truth is experiential.

The Three Questions adapted by Jon J Muth from Leo Tolstoy. Old Turtle by Douglas Wood. Zen Shorts, etc by Jon J Muth.
The best books or inspiration for that are "children's stories".
Otherwise, if you really want to do the work on yourself, The Opening of the Way by Isha Schwaller de Lubicz.
Here to HELP.

 

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Date: 2020-02-28 20:33:28
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The picture on the wall of one of the Slavic professors in Russia.

 

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Specifically, that there are vast "uncharted" areas of Earth.
Those that we send our mars rovers to, and where our space walk happened.

The mars rovers were actually in Area 51, Nevada. Civilians cant enter there, because it is the set for the space farce.
As for the flat Earth theory, you can check the sun anytime. Its always the same size in the sky. If the Earth was flat, the sun would drift in the sky like a plane do.

I'm with the toroidal model in that it is energy, but no set shape.

Dont know this model. Care to point me some link?