SH Archive Polish "Asstronaut" Admits Earth is Flat

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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2020-02-28 20:54:05
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The mars rovers were actually in Area 51, Nevada. Civilians cant enter there, because it is the set for their space farce.
As for the flat Earth theory, you can check the sun anytime. Its always the same size in the sky. If the Earth was flat, the sun would drift in the sky like a plane do.





Dont know this model. Care to point me some link?

Tube torus. Like a DONUT, yo.

Poles in the holes!
Sorry. That was RUDE.
I THINK the energy goes in the north and out the south?...

 

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Username: Banta
Date: 2020-02-28 21:00:11
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Its always the same size in the sky

This only matters if you presume the sun is a tangible object of a measurable size. Also:

 

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Username: fabiorem
Date: 2020-02-28 21:14:53
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This only matters if you presume the sun is a tangible object of a measurable size. Also:

The sun only drifted like a plane because it was in the same height of the horizon.
When the sun is up in the sky, it still have the same size, and make an arc while it travel.
You dont see a plane doing the same movement.
This means the sun is very far from Earth. The flat Earth model shows it as close as any plane would be.

As for the Earth not spinning, this could be true in a geocentric model (or a geo-heliocentric model, like the one from Tycho Brahe), but dont prove the Earth is flat.

 

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Username: Banta
Date: 2020-02-28 21:37:58
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You dont see a plane doing the same movement.
This means the sun is very far from Earth. The flat Earth model shows it as close as any plane would be.

This is still presuming the sun is tangible with a measurable distance, which I can't speak to with any authority. And the horizon for that matter. Also, to my knowledge, there is no singular flat earth model, and none that posit the sun (if tangible) is as near to earth as an aircraft flies.

The point of the videos (I linked a playlist, I didn't really want the one with rotation references first, so I apologize for any confusion) is that the sun appears to diminish in size when viewed during certain atmospheric conditions and increased altitude for greater visibility.

As stated here previously, I do not think the shape of the earth can be proven one way or another. There are always different explanations for observations, unless one could get high enough to observe the totality of the realm and I'm skeptical that is even possible.

 

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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2020-02-28 21:41:40
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Or an apple. Bisected you see the shape.
With the earth perhaps it would be an upside down apple...
Secret handshake of three fingers, thumb up, blah, blah...

 

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Username: Borec
Date: 2020-02-28 21:57:46
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Just from the sources of Vedic knowledge. How supposed to be shaped our Universe with many Worlds....

 

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Username: Searching
Date: 2020-02-28 22:03:47
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Dont know this model. Care to point me some link?

Well, matter is made of energy. An atom is basically empty. It is the proton, neutron and electron moving so quickly that they create the illusion of substance, so it isn't really a shape, just energy expressing itself as a shape.
It's essentially holographic universe and simulacra.

 

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Username: fabiorem
Date: 2020-02-28 22:24:59
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Well, matter is made of energy. An atom is 99% empty. It is the proton, neutron and electron moving so quickly that they create the illusion of substance, so it isn't really a shape, just energy expressing itself as a shape.

Actually this video proves that gravity is decentralized, not that the Earth have this shape (which would make it looks like a donut). This could be used to prove the hollow Earth theory. Since gravity is not on a single point, it is distributed around the crust.

Earth's rotation can be perceived if you spin your own body around yourself for a minute or two. The dizziness is a result of it. You dont perceive it normally because you are linked to it through gravity.
Coils always have a empty center, like the atoms, as you pointed out. That's why the Earth is hollow.

 

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Username: Searching
Date: 2020-02-28 22:29:55
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Actually this video proves that gravity is decentralized, not that the Earth have this shape (which would make it looks like a donut).

I don't think it's shaped like a donut. I don't think it has a shape.

 

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Username: Dorothy
Date: 2020-02-28 23:41:41
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The picture on the wall of one of the Slavic professors in Russia.

Stunningly beautiful. Couldn't trace the artist and funnily enough twice this week I've seen responses that were both flat and round, have you heard that one. Maybe I should pop into the quantum field and ask for community consciousness to be given the answer. Anyways, what do you feel are the difference or benefits of flat earth scientifically even.

 

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Username: Raven
Date: 2020-02-29 01:19:33
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Earth's rotation can be perceived if you spin your own body around yourself for a minute or two. The dizziness is a result of it.

If you hold out your hand, thumb up, and spin around while focusing your thumb you don't get dizzy. Figure skating spins, ballet spins... they use this point in space technique. If gravity caused dizziness, staring at your hand wouldn't work.

 

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Username: Red Bird
Date: 2020-02-29 01:54:38
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Call me old fashioned, and must add I am indebted to contributors of this thread to reawaken my thinking which has been on a less than good scholarly background, a fact.
I reduce a long list of persuasive formations in my conclusions (at this moment) regarding flat vs round to Eratosthenes who surely faced similar arguments in his time changing a whole new platform of understanding.
I'll cut it short, and I am a romantic, Copernicus, Galileo Maxwell, Faraday, Hertz and Tesla provide me the ingredients of the spherical realm, electromagetics and tone. So many heroic mathematicians and specialities on this basis of work injected their organic growth to that account over millennia and include Einstein each enjoying their developing mathematics as a result albeit their focus elsewhere. Personally im attached to these greats because they provide calculative and demonstrative successes in both discovery and invention, they found no cause to reinvent the wheel.
So when it comes down to it astrophysics and my perception of Quantum, all of it beyond me, still I am not learning any new persuasives. However my science is in mainstream by way of apology to thread contributors who are admirelingly going beyond.
It is not my intent to incite the old arguments that would have gone on in the past, its my simple curiosity and wonderment of what's new and could drive new avenues for Truth.
Until such a time, I conclude the earth is a sphere and whilst flat earth arguments is tempting there are seemingly too many positives for the calculative results on a sphere realm. Can flat earth recalculate everything the sphere result has accomplished.?
I'm thinking flat earth is a deliberate distraction, perhaps the New Space Program will amaze us with findings (cough choke) of new stuff, perhaps exonerating past mistakes of moonlandings AND clarifying this resurrected debate, wouldn't that be great again.
To ground myself from this I recall in my career, traveling all continents approx and 60% of key capital cities, it struck me amusingly most offices had a map of the world, most depicted their country at the center, unlike the classic portrayal as in say the UN Logo. All things are relative hahaha.

I'm not clear on how you may have reached those facts are you able to elaborate? Thanks

I would more eagerly agree with you if you might agree with me to correct statement to 'manipulated science'. That's more true for me. Thanks

While this is well said none of it a answers why the formula for curvature doesn’t work on the ground (one of my main concerns). No one has has answered this question that I have seen. This is one of the actual proofs available to us and it doesn’t work. Crickets.
We individuals have the technology, and access to flat ground and water, to figure this out. Also, all the spinning and moving is highly suspect. Crown It with the admission they ‘lost’ all of the moon landing data And cannot, now, seem to get past the Van Allen Belt... what!! To be honest I think it takes a lot of trust to get past this one (among other weirdness).

Most people sort of happen on ‘flat earth’, and think no way, then start understanding what is being said and shown. Only a few take the next step. Also, hardly anyone thinks, for sure, it’s necessarily flat but definitely understand that what we’ve been told is not adding up.
I don’t have the oomph (or time right now) to put all of the links to this information, which I know would be helpful. Maybe somebody could help him out.

there is absolutely no benefit in anyone being a flat earther, for sure. That doesn’t make it less true. However think of the benefits of keeping the hoax. 53 million/day for NASA is a big one. Also, if we believe we are just a tiny speck of nothingness in a big universe... who does that serve?

 

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Username: Starmonkey
Date: 2020-02-29 02:08:50
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Maybe it's this

Cliff McReynolds. La Jolla pentych
Bad copy, but ours is rolled up

 

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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-02-29 10:05:20
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This means the sun is very far from Earth.

What possible relevance does anything above my head have to do with what I am standing on?

An atom is basically empty. It is the proton, neutron and electron moving so quickly that they create the illusion of substance,

Well that is what the experts sell us.

You're not listening...

JOKE No I'm not because you are not speaking. JOKE over.

ask the earth to help you.

I never presume on our friendship.

I'll cut it short, and I am a romantic, Copernicus, Galileo Maxwell, Faraday, Hertz and Tesla provide me the ingredients of the spherical realm,

What evidence have you experienced in everyday lived life that confirms to you that this realm is the mathematical object, a sphere?

Here to HELP.

Thankyou. I learned from Don Shimoda and a Zen priest whose name I canot recall any book teaches what is needed when its needed.

 

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Username: NovaFeedback
Date: 2020-02-29 13:27:28
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Call me old fashioned, and must add I am indebted to contributors of this thread to reawaken my thinking which has been on a less than good scholarly background, a fact.
I reduce a long list of persuasive formations in my conclusions (at this moment) regarding flat vs round to Eratosthenes who surely faced similar arguments in his time changing a whole new platform of understanding.
I'll cut it short, and I am a romantic, Copernicus, Galileo Maxwell, Faraday, Hertz and Tesla provide me the ingredients of the spherical realm, electromagetics and tone. So many heroic mathematicians and specialities on this basis of work injected their organic growth to that account over millennia and include Einstein each enjoying their developing mathematics as a result albeit their focus elsewhere. Personally im attached to these greats because they provide calculative and demonstrative successes in both discovery and invention, they found no cause to reinvent the wheel.
So when it comes down to it astrophysics and my perception of Quantum, all of it beyond me, still I am not learning any new persuasives. However my science is in mainstream by way of apology to thread contributors who are admirelingly going beyond.
It is not my intent to incite the old arguments that would have gone on in the past, its my simple curiosity and wonderment of what's new and could drive new avenues for Truth.
Until such a time, I conclude the earth is a sphere and whilst flat earth arguments is tempting there are seemingly too many positives for the calculative results on a sphere realm. Can flat earth recalculate everything the sphere result has accomplished.?
I'm thinking flat earth is a deliberate distraction, perhaps the New Space Program will amaze us with findings (cough choke) of new stuff, perhaps exonerating past mistakes of moonlandings AND clarifying this resurrected debate, wouldn't that be great again.
To ground myself from this I recall in my career, traveling all continents approx and 60% of key capital cities, it struck me amusingly most offices had a map of the world, most depicted their country at the center, unlike the classic portrayal as in say the UN Logo. All things are relative hahaha.

I'm not clear on how you may have reached those facts are you able to elaborate? Thanks

I would more eagerly agree with you if you might agree with me to correct statement to 'manipulated science'. That's more true for me. Thanks

You can see stuff that should be hidden by the non-existent curvature, it has been proved countless times.

Earth Curve Calculator

Being a fan-boy of freemasonic "scientists" is only proof of indoctrination: I suggest a good read: Kings Dethroned by Gerrard Hickson.

Space program is a destraction and 100% indoctrination, again proved 1 million times.

Actually this video proves that gravity is decentralized, not that the Earth have this shape (which would make it looks like a donut). This could be used to prove the hollow Earth theory. Since gravity is not on a single point, it is distributed around the crust.

Earth's rotation can be perceived if you spin your own body around yourself for a minute or two. The dizziness is a result of it. You dont perceive it normally because you are linked to it through gravity.
Coils always have a empty center, like the atoms, as you pointed out. That's why the Earth is hollow.

...seriously?

Gravity is only required for a spinning ball, that is again non-existent.

Things do fall because of density and buoyancy. A balloon filled with helium or a lighter than air gas will fly away.

When the earth moves you can feel it, it's called an EARTHQUAKE.

What possible relevance does anything above my head have to do with what I am standing on?

Bingo. Also, they sell us the 93-million-miles-distant sun pretending that light does travel only in a straight line, that is demonstrably false because of air density that causes refraction, diffraction and reflection. Truth is the sun cannot be triangulated because the sun we see is only apparent: its position in the sky is given by air density. We can not know how far it is and how big it is, also because it is not a physical object, just a focal point in the sky. I guess the same is for all luminaries in the sky. Censoring is big especially on YT, anyway there are (or at least there used to be) many videos showing the real aspect of the lights in the sky. But again, buy a good camera with a decent zoom and see for yourselves...

 

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Username: Bunnyman
Date: 2020-02-29 14:46:09
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A balloon filled with helium or a lighter than air gas will fly away

I don't go for the spinning ball nonsense either but please allow me to play devil's advocate here. Lets say what we call air, atmosphere or aether is a gaseous substance. As is helium in your balloon. Now lets presume that density of aether consist of gaseous substrates, ascending in layers from dense to less dense. The balloon would find it's way "home" to the layer with equal density. One could theoretically use gasses with less density than helium. So it would ascent higher. But what the interesting question for me is, is at what point it would find a barrier if any?

 

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Username: Raven
Date: 2020-02-29 16:02:25
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We can not know how far it is and how big it is, also because it is not a physical object, just a focal point in the sky.

I have this same "knowing" as I call it... the sun appears to me as a kind of step down transducer of light energy coming from the central sun, a focal point just as you describe. Breatharians can live off this light alone, sun gazers can look directly at it without eye damage (with practice of course). It's a loving, healing light that fuels our planet, free energy for all. This has obviously been kept from us by the same people who kept everything important from our awareness, telling us "sun worship" was the pagan practice of primitives. Every time we discover a truth like this, our DNA corrects and that is how we evolve. The sun has greatly changed in my lifetime. This is the process of evolution, not "mutation," which implies humans are some kind of "mistake." We are awakening in a multitude of ways, in part due to our sun.

 

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Username: Dorothy
Date: 2020-03-01 01:14:41
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In response asking giving proof of earth curvature. I cant personally mathematically maybe this helps.
WALTER BISLINS-EN BLOG entitled finding the curvature of the earth.
Big on refraction and atmosphere, goes on forever, interesting test at the end.

Someone asked my personal lived life daily experience proof as to round earth. Not daily but I sight the eclipse a couple times a year apparantly the moon covering the sun then is the shadow from the round earth. Also
Traveling anywhere below the equator and I have done to many frequently, the stars are amazing if you get out of the cities and stars are not where they normally are when at home in UK struggling to find north star as a home cursor, but then I do drink red wine, I should've paid more attention, Australia stars the most balmy.

 

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Username: NovaFeedback
Date: 2020-03-01 08:12:09
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Eclipses have been reported with both the sun and the moon in the sky, so definitely it's NOT their interplaying that causes them.

Also, the shadow that the moon casts on the earth is much much much smaller than the moon itself (same thing for sun eclipses), and this is the only "known" case when the shadow is smaller than the object, i.e. it's impossible and bullshit explanation. Unless the moon and the sun are much much much smaller and closer. That it's what "flatearthers" (read: "people that don't fall for obvious bullshits and are NOT monkeys on a ball") say.

While we're at it... Most of the days, you can see the moon in the daytime too.

1)The sun and the moon at the same time in the sky?
2)The moon still has its phase (NOT FULL)?
3)The earth obviously can NOT be between them, otherwise you would NOT see both at the same time, and for the same reasons, can NOT be a ball.

Do you understand? The heliocentric baalshit means that the earth should be between the 2 luminaries called sun and moon, but it is not.
There's nothing between them so it can NOT be the earth's shadow casted on the moon, and the moon should be full. But it's not.

So, the moon phases are caused by the moon itself, and neither the moon phases/eclipses nor the sun eclipses are caused by the earth / sun / moon being balls and their relative position between them.

Guess what!? The "flat earth" model wins 100%.

 

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Username: jd755
Date: 2020-03-01 09:43:42
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I cant personally mathematically maybe this helps.

Maths is a language. A sphere is a mathematical object. A ball is a tangible object. Euclidean geomettry does not work on a ball. There is no level on the surface of a ball.

sight the eclipse a couple times a year

Why do you look to the sky to determine what you are walking on?
When you walk up or down a an incline with your eyes on the sky your body will tell you that the ground under your feet has gone off level not your eyes.
You know when your body is perpendicular (stood up) or horizontal (lying down. In both positions it is on thee level reletaive to the plane.
Lie down on a grassy bank and your body is well aware it is not level. Swap head position on the bank with feet position and your body will postively scream at you to get level
Look at the word construction in ennglish it is perfectly level.
LE V EL